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OCTOBER 15, 2009 7:22AM

Psychotropics - Brain Food

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I find on Salon a number of people who suffer from depression or some kind of anxiety/depression disorder and many, many bipolars, both I and II.  I’m not sure why – maybe it has to do with creativity – maybe it’s a coincidence. Maybe we're just obsessed with telling people we're nuts.

 

I suspect that most of us are on psychotropic drugs. That is drugs which affect the brain, as these disorders are not usually from having bad childhoods, but having lousy brain chemistry. Psychiatrists try to balance the brain with these drugs in order to keep the brain awash in the good stuff, not the bad that we inherited for the most part, genetically.

 

Bipolar Is are usually treated with lithium (to even the moods from mania) and an anti-depressant. Some are also treated with yet another mood stabilizer, such as clonazapam, a highly effective but extremely addictive drug. Better to be a junkie I say, than out of your mind and climbing walls.

 

Depressives are usually treated with a good anti-depressant (so many that only some work for some people - how confusing is that) and those with anxiety disorder are often treated with clonazepam. Now, I am not going to get bogged down in drug names (boring) so I'll just tell you the type of drugs that work for me.

 I am a Bipolar II which is much harder to treat, as we cycle in mood rapidly, do not have bouts of mania, but the next level down, hypomania which can be a good thing if you have a lot to do (it’s sort of like being on cocaine at times) or a bad thing if it makes you too hyper and all you can do is pace the floor. For some reason, there aren’t a lot of drugs out there for Bipolar II s as we are harder to treat perhaps because our brain chemistry is more diverse. I myself have gone through 45 different medications in the last 10 years, most of which did not work. Whoopee.

It is believed that a drug for epilepsy or other seizure disorders evened the mood and about 15 years ago, they tried me on one of them in massive doses (about 3 times the amount for an average epileptic). It poisons you at first (2 weeks of nausea and constant headache). Then the body adjusts (amazing things bodies) and hopefully evens the mood. Almost all of these drugs affect body organs in not such a great way. Liver function is checked regularly as are the amounts of the drug in your system. Suprisingly enough this drug seemed to even me out and with an anti-depressant got me functioning again. I did however feel I was wrapped in a mattress.

This worked for a few while, until my liver and blood tests said NO MORE. I had reached the level of poison again. Bye bye to that drug. So we were left with more anti-seizure drugs. Some were for epilepsy some even for such terrible diseases as Parkinson’s. Nothing seemed to work. I was up and down and all around within a week or even a day. Rapid cycling, if only we could use the energy in a spinning class. 

One of the other drugs which has such side effects which help us (there are not a lot of drugs specifically for Bipolar IIs, I guess there’s not enough money in it). I take an anti-psychotic medication which keeps the mixed state away. I am not psychotic (although I have great sympathy for those who are) and have never run naked through the streets with a tin foil hat on my head. But these drugs work. I also take the aforementioned clonazepam (have for years, boy, talk about junkie) an anti-depressant, and ANOTHER mood stabilizer meant for epileptics.

 

Nothing seemed to work. I was without a mood stabilizer, so put my hypomania to work into getting another  university degree. It worked well, except I would crash, and my professors would know that they would not see me for a week. Then hypomania would set in and I would get all the work I had missed – done. It was rather confusing for me and them, but we all dealt with it.

 

I have had a great shrink for the last 10 years. She knows her chemistry and the only thing she wants to know when I go for my ‘visit’ is how I am chemically. Up, down, anxious, mixed (that’s when you’re hypomanic AND depressed, a lovely state) etc. Drugs are juggled, sometimes changed, and sometimes, if you take them long enough, they just wear out.

 

Recently, my anti psychotics – wore out. I was in a mixed state not knowing whether to go up or down, swing from a chandelier, or get into the ocean and keep swimming out. It was not pleasant. It resulted in bouts of crying and pacing, crying and pacing. Not a good way to spend a day. So my shrink, at wits end, sent me to a psychopharmacologist (I even have trouble spelling that one). This guy or gal deals purely in drugs. They know drugs that are not even on the market and can get their paws on them. They can usually diagnose the problem in ten minutes. Wow. So my guy ( luckily was good) sent his suggestions of drugs to my dear shrink and we tried a new anti-psychotic. The spinning class ceased.

 

I went in to her recently after a series of depressions and mixed states. I smiled. She jumped up and did a happy dance all around her chair (I don’t think most shrinks do that but I may be wrong). I did tell her I thought I was a bit hypomanic.

 

Her response was, “I don’t think so, I think you’re just not used to being happy”.

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I am getting ready to leave the house so I can't comment at length. What an excellent post that captures so perfectly the confusing, painful, discouraging quest for the effective med cocktail.
Thanks, Cassandra. It really is a mess isn't it? It takes so long to find the right thing - and then maybe it stops working and you start all over again. There's always hope though.
I found this very captivating. Its so important to hear the trajectory of one person's struggle with mental illness and their meds. And you told it in a way that was very non-boring (I say that only because its about meds, primarily - not always the jazziest subject! Maybe because you made it about YOU and how the meds help/hindered.)

I've been on Clonazapan for about a year now and I'm so grateful for it. I have anxiety-based depression. I had crippling insomnia for close to 10 years. Deadly, awful insomnia. I really felt like I was losing it from being so underslept.

I take a 1/2 milligram of C. a night, I think - its a very small dose. But now I sleep. And I also experience a sense of relaxation so that even when the drug isn't in my system so much, I can still recall that sensation, if that makes sense. I have a point of reference. I can still worry myself into a wormhole but there's some relief.

I have a friend who HATES meds. She thinks its a coward's way out and I get so mad sometimes, I almost don't want to be friends with her because of it. I SLEEP NOW! That's important. Unless you've been there, you have no clue. And I tried every natural remedy known.

And I know you say C. is highly addictive, but I can go days without it and not notice much of anything. I don't usually but sometimes, I like a break. A little more restless when I sleep, maybe. But I've been surprised at how non-addictive it feels. To me, Valium or Xanax seem far more addictive - but I think they're all from the same family anyway. Maybe its just the low dose I'm on.

Anyway, thanks.
Thanks for your input Beth. Yeah, I take a cocktail, (without the umbrella and cherry) and am on 10mg of clonazapam a day, so am highly addicted. I think your half one keeps you safe. But yes, to sleep the sleep of normal people.

I've never understood mentally ill people who will not take meds. I too have a friend who refuses to. She is Bipolar II and although her partner is a PSYCHIATRIST, she feels it blunts her creativity. Balderdash!
MC, your last line was a killer. I cannot imagine what it's like for you, but I'm glad you have the right people in your corner.
Thanks B1 - yeah I got lucky, this time. My post Are Psychiatrists Crazier Than We Are, tell of my journey to finally fine care.
I appreciate you dropping in, as usual.
New Buddha Fun - I did say 'usually' and 'most' in order to not label everyone. I'm so glad that you have pulled yourself out of a difficult situation and excel in the way you do. Bravo man!
Again, we are not all the same, New Buddha Fun. What works for one, may not work for another. I was taken to the brink of suicide to a world I can now live in happily by the 'allopaths'. I can't think it can be all wrong. This is a chemical disorder and it is only my opinion that chemicals can set it straight. Again, that is my opinion but I am glad that you have found an alternative.
PS. NBF - would you suggest that something like Juvenile Diabetes could be cured without medication? Blood thinners to keep the heart beating in chronic heart disorders. Mental illness (and I use that term referring to itself is no different) in most cases. Some of us consider ourselves to be no different. We need drugs to stay alive. I mean no disrespect, my man, just that we all take different routes. I may be poisoned, but I am happy.
I have seen so many friends and clients struggle through the process of finding the right med(s) dosages to effectively balance the chemistry. It appears to be both an art and a science, since the "professionals" can only speculate as to what will work or not work. But thank you for sharing a bit about the process - many simply don't understand how frustrating it can be until something works!
Yes, Owl Say Who - in my case, it was all about the right medications in the right cocktail. I feel so badly for those who are still struggling. It's an awful fight.
I appreciate your comments and do not think what you say is a fairy tale. I know the evils of the pharmaceutical industry. No one forces anything on me, I assure you. I am asking for their help to stay well. We'll have to agree to disagree on this one my friend.
Yay for the pharmacologist! I found something that is used in an off-label kind of way for my PTSD. Very few people know about it and it is life saving - it deals with dissociation effectively. She says 60% of the world should be on it - the scary part would be we would all "wake up at the same time." I think the therapists would be well employed! :)

Thanks for your honesty...it is greatly appreciated. (Rated!)
Fantastic Kate! I'm so happy you have found something that works for you. Fabulous.
I'm glad you have a good shrink on your side.
Thanks Gwendolyn - I do indeed. Nice of you to drop by.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge of, and personal experience with psychotropics Madcelt! I don't pray usually, but I pray they keep evolving the meds, so that people like us can get more and more functional and actually feel happiness. Just a plain simple level of contentment that seems so hard for anyone to come by, rightly wired or not. (The days I have when everything is alright make me cry from their beauty and peacefulness.)
Now I need to go look up psychopharmacologist :)
Your shrink sounds wonderful!!
HJ - those days of contentment are golden. I'm so glad you have them as often people don't experience them at all. It's great you DO have them. Me too. They are developing (or discovering) that a lot of the 'side effects' of these other drugs really work well, or are developing many more direct medications such as anti-depressants that have few side effects.
Keep one important fact in mind -- even the earth is bipolar.
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I appreciate your post. Many people feel quite alone, not knowing that there are others out there who also experience highs, lows, and everything in between at a pace others do not. Thanks for sharing this.
John, please always drop by - you make me laugh me arse off.

Mypsyche - always a pleasure and no, you are not alone.
Thank you for this. I've been on a variety of anti-depressants and assorted off-label drugs like lamictal since 1991. One of the things I hate about depression is that I'm never sure when my meds will stop working -- and I'm not so sure I can tell when they do. I finally reached the conclusion that, if certain symptoms are recurring and I have to keep asking myself about the meds, the answer is "no."

I call this the Badly Lit Ages of Psychopharmacology -- not quite Dark, but very much not yet enlightened, either.

If you haven't read Kay Redfield Jameson's book, An Unquiet Mind, I strongly encourage you to do so. She's a beautiful writer, and, as the commercial goes, she's not just the president, she's a customer.
Thank you ers.617. Yes, the longevity of the drugs. Mine lasted for quite while but I too, am always nervous about if it's 'starting' again. My doctor says what they know about the brain amounts to a flea on an elephant. They are just guessing at a lot of stuff, and some are better than others at it. Thank you also for the book advice, - it sounds like just my kind of book. Be well.
I'm amazed at the sheer numbers of psychotropic medicines. In Oklahoma, they represent a major portion of Medicaid expenditure. I no longer feel qualified to treat anything more than uncomplicated depression. I refer to psychiatry for bipolar disorder, schizophrenia, and countless other conditions. Sadly, psychiatric services in Oklahoma are abysmal. Thank you for this timely post.
Psychiatry is unfortunately abysmal in too many places, Steve. I find some simply aren't informed of the latest medications or there simply isn't enough shrinks to go around. Thank you for your comments.