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OCTOBER 20, 2009 4:17AM

The Grinches That Steal Hallowe'en

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Hallowe’en is on the way, and little ones are deciding whether to be a Ninja or Spiderman. It’s a cute tradition as Princesses, Xena, Batman and a few ghouls arrive at the door, exhibiting childhood greed. We give out handfuls because we figure if they are brave enough to make it through three barking dogs, they deserve a good pat on the back with more chips and Cadbury bars. There are the 6 foot ones who come to the door and grunt, but we usually just toss in a can of beer and they lumber off.

 

So when did Hallowe’en become controversial? Ah, when the fundamentalist Christian Right decided it was demonic. I don’t know why they had to pick on Hallowe’en. Maybe hugely sweet toothed parents took their candy away when they were kids, or Mom made them dress up like a ghost every Hallowe’en with nothing but a sheet on and two holes.  But they are at it again already. Fundamentalist communties seem to feel that children in Mutant Ninja Turtle costumes are more prone to become minions of Satan. And how do these kids feel at school the next day, when lunch boxes of the others are filled with 'stolen' treasure? "My Mommy and Daddy think you are all demons" as the poor kids drool over candy apples and bags of chips?

 

Even the age old 'trick or treat' has become relatively meaningless. The only time I had a trick played on me was when I turned out our porch light to indicate no more candy left and someone VICIOUSLY took a stroke at the front door with a piece of soap. Deviltry.

 

Now I understand parents taking their kids to a church hall or community constructed 'haunted houses' to take their little ghosts and goblins to get their candy and show off their costumes as in many neighborhoods. It’s just safer. But at least they get to dress up and are not burned at the stake.

 

Even in Canada, which is not particularly known for fundamentalist ‘fun’, still have whole communities at work to ban Hallowe’en in it’s entirety. It is supposedly evil. In fact it is a tradition going back to the early Middle Ages when the ghosts of the dead were supposed to rise, and flour was sprinkled on the floor to indicate ghostly foot prints or on chairs to indicate whether a ghost was sitting there. Why a ghost would need to rest his dogs I don’t know, but they seemed to think this would protect them and they would pray and probably do the vampire cross thing. The priests didn’t mind, (I’m not saying Middle Ages priests were the brightest in the bunch) but they didn’t label it satanic. It was just a ‘thing’.  The tradition then became fun over the years, once the flour sprinkling ceased and celebrated in its own form throughout the Western world in many different ways, most notably in the Latin American countries where wonderful skeletons parade through the streets on ‘The Day of the Dead”.

 

Our version is much more refined and not so Middle Age-y. The kids are afraid only when some goof jumps out at them from the bushes in a Scream mask, but even that is fun. I fail to see the connection with this and the demonic. I think it is possible that it is just another way for the Christian Right to flex it’s muscles. Kids dressing up as Satan! Abominable! I have only seen Satan at adult parties and he seemed quite pleasant.

 

The whole thing of banning Hallowe’en is a mystery to me. Maybe I’m just missing the point, but those that wish to outlaw Hallowe’en in it’s entirety would be robbing kids of one of the best days of the year. Who wouldn’t want to eat candy till they puke? I will never understand what this has to do with the demonic. Maybe someone out there can explain how our children can be cute little Johnny Depp pirates when they leave the house, and become the spawn of Satan as soon as they hit the streets.

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I have no idea why my author tags came out twice. You are not seeing double.
Satan doubled them up!!!!
Seriously, the fundies are starting to piss me off. What's next - banning everything that's not mentioned in the bible? Oh wait - that would take their guns away (which would be a good thing) and would make them members of the Taleban!
That explains it! Seriously, some kids don't even get presents at Christmas. The Fundies are just going too far with that one. EVEN ONE!
They aleady are our own version of the Taliban Cymraeg. They already are.
Now you're scaring me.
I hope so...Pat Robertson - Osama Bin Laden?
"...or Mom made them dress up like a ghost every Hallowe’en with nothing but a sheet on and two holes."

They wear this costume in the South sometimes, but they're not dressing as ghosties.....
If we are not careful, the religious fanatics will force their "damnation" theories down our throats until there is no fun left in the world. Organized religion scares the hell out of me!
Rated.
jeez xhaggy locks. I didn't think those white sheets had probably dual purposes. Well said.
Donna - organzided religion is not my thing either, but it's the Fundamentalists who REALLY scare me.
Phaedo - that IS evil - well agreed. Hallowe'en did have pagan roots, but that was so far back only the Wiccans celebrate it (and they don't dress as Minnie Mouse). The church sanctioned it more or less as I stated in the post. Ye gods, Mormons at the door!
Some people just don't have any sense of humor, or imagination. The Catholic grad school my kid went to wouldn't allow the kids to wear "traditional" costumes on Halloween, but they could dress up as saints. Since so many martyrs died such awful deaths, each year you could be guaranteed some kid carried a pair of eyeballs in his hands...
blue surly - I can well imagine St. Anthony (the pin cushion) must have looked wonderful with arrows and blood sticking out of him. The saints - now that's a FUN idea! Love the eyeball image.
AHHH! AN EMOTICON!!!!
My question about Hallowe'en is more basic: since when did it become a commercial event worthy of a three-month buildup and massive expenditure? We used to throw a costume together the week of, or rather our mothers did when we were younger, grab a pillow case and plunder the neighbourhood for loot. I haven't seen a big push to get it banned where I live in Canada but I'd say those misguided people are getting rid of it for the wrong reasons.
St. Anthony wasn't martyred (at least not St. Anthony of Padua, the finder of lost objects.) He died of dropsy. The "human pincushion" was St. Sebastian, who was shot with a zillion arrows.

St. Lucy is traditionally depicted carrying her eyeballs before her on a platter--there's a statue of this in the back of my church.

St. Stephen was flayed alive, and is often depicted holding his removed skin.

And of course, there's always St. Joan of Arc being burned at the stake.

You can have a lot of fun with going as various saints on Halloween.

By the way, St. Nicholas of Myra is the patron saint of murderers.
Emma Peel - point taken - but it is us adults fault that it has become so commercial. The kids basically ignore that and it all comes down to costumes and candy. If we could ban Hallowe'en decorations before Oct. 30 (excluding the sacred pumpkin) and get the damned pre-made costumes out of the stores, I'd be all with you. My mother never told me what I was on Hallowe'en. SHe just slopped on a bunch of makeup, gave me an old dress or my brother's clothes and sent me out the door. I could be anything from a princess to a drag king. That's the way to go in my mind.
I stand corrected Leandra. I knew someone was a pincushion. What fun those saints must have been though! REALLY GRUESOME!!
tomreedtoom - very eloquently put. Thank you.
But don't Wiccans eat children?
The most disturbing part is that my best friend's moronic, idiotic fucking stupid and bass-ackward husband (I really like the guy, can you tell?) has decided their children will not celebrate a PAGAN holiday. My beloved little nephew doesn't get to partake in the candified fun and play because his father's a moron.
It's interesting, but I live in a very conservative, very Christian town, and Halloween is widely and enthusiastically celebrated. Churches do the "trunk or treat" thing and punkin patches. I was glad that was one thing I wouldn't have to deal with bucking the local culture on. Our little boy is a Vampire this year - costume made at home, 99 cent vampire teeth and a jack o' lantern flashlight - we can't wait!
I give each kid a sack of flour along with their candy. Because we have to keep our children safe.
Yay for holloween! Screw the anti-halloween people! They're just trying to stop candy, which we all love! They should be ashamed, but of course they won't be.
Rated.
The Fundies get to bash Halloween every year. There are no new Harry Potter books to entice innocent children over to the dark side.

They are not the only enemies of Halloween. Now that it is becoming socially unacceptable to ban gays from having sex, maybe we can substitute banning kids from eating candy.

Great post, rated of course.
Thanks everyone for your usual intelligent (and funny) responses. Now for those of you who think Hallowe'en should be banned because of the commercialism, t'is a slippery slope to banning anything from Mother's Day to Christmas. I of course agree it is all funded by Hallmark, but people sort of need these kind of things. They get excited, they plan stuff - commercial or not - it's kind of a supply and demand thing. I know adults who get as big a kick out of Hallowe'en as the kids. Yes, over commercialized but there is another industry to be considered - dentists.

The rest of you gang - right on for being supporters of Cadbury and Nestle. I don't know what I'd do without the left over candy.
Horror movies, vampires, children dressed up as ghost Pokemon and other Halloween trappings just don’t compare to CBN, Pat Robertson and other censors when it comes to being scary. Now somebody please pass the candy corn!
sjflynn - you got it right on the nose...maybe a red clown nose if you are preparing for the holiday early. Those guys are the real spookies. Candy corn on the way.
Someone (I think on nerve.com) has suggested that as Halloween is getting more and more adult every year, that we create a separate holiday a week later, and leave Halloween for the kiddies. The suggested new holiday will be called Slutoween, giving those with the urge to dress as hooker vampires an outlet.
What a GREAT idea! I have always wanted to go as a slutty werewolf (some women just love that backhair). Points for you!
the fundies have _always_ been on the warpath against our sacred day. It's just that now, with the imaginary "war on [anything christian]" many of them feel emboldened. The more rational of us have to fear being branded as heretics (or worse, liberal) for pointing out how inappropriate their behavior is.

and lest you think this an exaggeration, do a quick search (I'm too lazy to do it for you) for "halloween liberal plot" and see how many loony tunes actually believe your kid dressing up a spiderman is subversive and will lead to moral decay and corruption of society.
and, yes, as retailers realized adults have more money, and are more likely to spend it on themselves, than their kids, All Hallows Eve is being marketed towards them.

Still, curious that much of that marketing entices women to embrace their inner slut. Repressive culture, much?
Exactly Fudo - kids don't put up the blow up ghosts or the fake gravestones. That's the part the adults get into (and enjoy). Part of it is not rampant consumerism however, some is just seeing the kids have fun with it all.

Repression? How many people do you know dress up as their alter ego? Many, many, many....
by "repression" I meant to say that displays of sexuality are deemed inappropriate unless in the guise of an alter ego.

or, "no, you can't be a slut, unless it's a costume, and we're meant to infer you're not really like that, as much as the person next to you isn't really a vampire."

Except that people's alter egos are usually what they wish they could be, daily, without restriction. But they don't, for fear of ridicule, ostracism, etc., ergo repression.
Get it now, Fudo - thanks for the clarification.
The conservative element felt that if they couldn't force the "Christian" version of Christmas upon school children then they would attack the "Satan" version of Halloween. Control the kids and you control the future.
Yeah, ever notice that the "Christian" Right is always AGAINST something? So negative and hateful!! Why don't they do something positive such as teaching illiterate prisoners to read, or working as helpers for released prisoners or the mentally ill making the transition back into society, or visiting and helping the fragile elderly, or opening their churches as after-school tutoring and child care centers for parents who can't really afford quality care for their kids, or working with children at risk, especially the 16 million children living in poverty in this great nation of ours? I could think of dozens of POSITIVE things for them to do, but no. They're haters.

Although raised a fundamentalist Protestant, I escaped, but still believe in the essence of Christianity which is simply the Golden Rule. In fact, every religion has a version of the Golden Rule, even Judaism, although they don't seem to be practicing it in Israel in their relations with the Palestinians which is very, very sad to me.

What's strange to me, also, is that the "Christian" Right seems so afraid of the Harry Potter books, Halloween, Wicca, and so on. They don't have much faith (no pun intended) in their religion if it can be undermined by Halloween, do they? If they really believe that reading a Harry Potter book can undermine religious belief, then they don't understand how children's minds work for one thing, not to mention failing to understand that parental views are the dominant influence on all children....at least until they grow up when some do learn to think for themselves and do reject what they were taught in childhood as I did, at least some of it. One of my earliest Sunday School lessons that has stuck with me ever since is that I should "help God make a happy world". The "Christian" Right does no such thing!!

Whenever these so-called "Christians" start one of their hate fests against something, and something usually innocuous at that, I laugh. They only demonstrate their own lack of faith. No true Christian engages in the hateful and negative as they do. They are telling me loudly and clearly by such behavior that their own faith is weak, nor are they truly spiritually enlightened or spiritual at all.
THEY MOCK AND UNDERMINE THEMSELVES WHEN THEY START SPOUTING HATE!!
madcelt, Cymraeg...there's a reason you found my blog, eh? I should write a post about what we did for Halloween. Hmmm. Well, thank god we had a church that let us dress up for "Hallelujah Night." I love dressing up. I think there should be more holidays for dressing up. What fun!

At least in the community I was raised in, no one thought the children were demons, but "we" did think that real witches, devil-worshippers, and the like were up to no good at Halloween. We even prayed extra hard to keep the evil away.

I'm excited about going to the Halloween parade in Boystown this year. Ah, my dad would lose it if he knew. His only daughter dressing up and going to a Halloween parade in the gay neighborhood. It's going to be so much fun.
Occ. Nerv - Frightening true.
Soapbox Amy - you've said it all so well. What about the 'Christians' that stand outside gay funerals with signs saying 'God hates fags'. None of this is about love - it's about fear mongering and loving only other fundamentalists.
Gwendolyn - I think you should go holding eyeballs.
What, you mean we don't have to flour the house anymore? Yippee
I think they just don't want us to have any fun.....meanies
Or maybe they just need something to bitch about!
Halloween bit the dust when the collective loss of wonder dulled the senses of many Americans. Now it's "harvest festivals" ... I wonder if the 6-year-olds who attend these contrivances have a clue as to what they're celebrating - the fall color scheme of the Twinkies at Kroger's?
Fundamentalists live with the same crippling fear that marked our Puritan ancestors: "The crippling terror that somewhere, someone in the world is HAPPY!"

We have to be miserable in life or we'll burn in hell. But having to spend eternity with the Fundamentalists definitely sounds like my picture of hell.

On Halloween, I see cute kids in costumes getting candy and having a spooky sort of fun: Fundamentalists see tiny demons in training.

Did anyone ever tell these people they take religion WAY too seriously? I refuse to give up on Halloween!

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Secretly, I think they own the companies who make the "I really wanted to be a stripper" costumes our repressed culture flocks to and have to shout at the rooftops to throw us all off while they rake in the cash.

I mean, there's a reason 1% own 96% of the wealth...it was all based on Halloween. Trick or Treat?
Yeah, it's all about a little bit of fun. And strippers. Good comments you guys.
I think it's that people would like to see their villains wearing a black hat. I mean, Halloween is a chance, a false one of course, to be able to point out the villains with one swift hand. Alas, in real life, villains often look like your best friend until they hurt you. But that's not as comforting as blaming it all on Satan.
Where I live its big thing, schools and churchs have little gatherings for the kids and there are always "parties of sin" for the grownups later that night, lol And this area is still rather conservative.

I remeber a few years back when Chico had the halloween clusterfuck and they started having the "don't go to downtown Chico" on halloween bit.

Rated!
sigh, banning Halloween huh? good lord people are bizarre :p
I want praying banned on Halloween because it interferes with the karma of my evil. I don't think one 24 hour period of unhindered evil is too much to ask.

Explain the difference to me of being dressed in a pirate costume and asking for candy, and being forced to wear a sweater with reindeer crocheted on it and asking for a candy cane.

Which is more damaging to a child?
Del; yeah, Harvest Festivals. Just what I wanted. To see a bunch of kids dressed up like corn or a John Deere.
Shiral - NEVER give up on Hallowe'en!
But Kate - I wear that costume for a whole year!
Phaedo - we are returning to the Middle Ages - pretty soon they'll be sprinkling flour again.
Del - you made me laugh
Odetteroulette - maybe all the fundies should wear black hats.
Lady Miko - can you tell me where Chico's is?
BRBJ - I personally would never put a child in a reindeer sweater. Humiliating to child and most thinking grown ups. I would much rather my kid go as Ted Bundy.
HJ - Yes, people are nuts
North of Sac in California!
It's only across the country - but I'll try to be there. Sounds worth it.
Excellent post. Does anyone know when the whole "Halloween is evil" business got started? I have no recollection of any such thing during my own Midwestern childhood (late 60s and early 70s).