Barbara O'Brien

Barbara O'Brien
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Barbara O'Brien blogs at Mahablog, Buddhism.About.com and the Mesothelioma and Asbestos Awareness Center.

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MARCH 25, 2009 10:26PM

Banned in China

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This is not easy to watch. Right after the Tibetan Governmet in Exile released this video, the government of China effectively blocked YouTube in China.
Meanwhile, Amnesty International has released a report documenting numerous human rights violations by U.S. immigration officials. Read about it at the other blog.

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thanks for posting this. i admit that i couldn't even watch it all. i don't think we realize just how much control china is capable of. this is a really interesting blog that tracks and discusses chinese censorship and i'm continually astounded by their methods. it's worth a look if you've never seen it:
http://rconversation.blogs.com/
I have the sound off because I'm at work. However I can tell you that the footage around the ~1:00 mark was from the 1989 uprising (after Panchen Lama's passing). It's somewhat dishonest to mix in old footage and imply that it's from the 2008 riot.
Also- the chinese government blocks Youtube at the drop of the hat anyways. Given the huge volume of political dialogue on Youtube, it's kind of a wonder that they don't block it permanently.
While shocking and vile the video is very similar to news footage shot in the U.S. in Chicago and in many of the civil rights marches in the south during the sixties. While China's government is generally repulsive to most people it is the envy of most governments in the world today for this very reason. The U.S. government would love to be able to block the broadcast of its own failures and repression of freedoms. The effort to block images returning casualties from Iraq and Afghanistan are ample proof.

The Chinese star is rising and I fear that it is generations from being held accountable for this type of behavior. The world won't help the Tibetian people, it is to much in debt to the government of China. It is shameful. We as people are guilty of aiding them in their effort to crush all who oppose them. When we purchase goods from China we enrich the people who would see the world bow to China. When we send jobs that supported free people to be done by slaves of the Chinese government we enable the scenes that are posted here. I would also like to note that while AI may have found the treatment of some refugees to be less than ideal, they do not not any instances of torture, slavery, denial of food, water, or medical care.
very heartbreaking and horrific, difficult to watch. Thank you for posting it...it is important to expose this wherever it occurs in the world, lest we forget how tenuous our rights, our freedoms here and elsewhere.

Icemilkcoffee: the video with the sound ON, identifies the footage and provides background. Barbara does not indicate in her post that the video is for a specific year. I think it is poor judgment to accuse someone of being dishonest in their post when you haven't even read/listened to it.
I couldn't even click play. I remember the videos smuggled out of Afghanistan during the Taliban era, recorded by RAWA. I figured this was going to be as much fun.
Sao Kay: You're right - the narration does identify that video segment. However the narrator still got it wrong- it should be 1989, not 1988.

Also- the wounds on the young man looks more like bedsores than injuries from a beating. The source is clearly partisan, and the fact that it's surfacing just now, one whole year after the purported events, leaves me no choice but to consider it 'unverified'.
How is this state sponsored terrorism any different than what Saddam Hussein did in Iraq? Yet we borrow billions from them...
United States of Hypocrisy
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Icemilkcoffee: It is true that the Tibetan Government in Exile is not a 100 percent reliable source of information for what's going on in Iraq. However, in the veracity department the TGiE beats the pants off Xinhua (Chinese government news media). There is more than enough evidence to be certain that Tibetans are being subjected to brutality by the Chinese. If the TGiE sometimes gets dates or numbers wrong, the larger truth doesn't change.
These are out trading "partners"?

That said, most of it is, as Bobbot said, very reminiscent of Chicago in '68 and other conflicts, like the student riots in Paris in the Sixties, between police/military and the citizenry.

Not that I'm condoning any of it....
Barbara: I am not trying to defend the chinese communist party. I am trying to defend the truth.
There was a time in the recent past when one could have made up any number of stories about China and people in the US would believe it. 'They' eat monkey brains... 'They' eat babies... 'They' killed 1 million tibetans. You could have heaped every kind of slander on "the chinese" (note it's always an undifferentiated mass with no names) and it would be believed, because first of all there was no verifiable information coming out of China, and secondly the official channels (Xinhua) have no credibility. The Tibetan exiles have been operating in this milieu for 50 years. They are used to having the western audience take at face value everything they claimed.
However, after the riot (yes- it was a riot. Not a 'protest'. In fact it was specifically a RACE RIOT against not just ethnic chinese, but Uighurs as well) of Mar 08, that is not true anymore. Now there IS independent information coming out of China. There are divergent voices both inside and outside of China giving divergent viewpoints. For example- if you search on Youtube, you will find a good number of videos documenting the atrocities commited by the tibetans during the riots. The tibetan exiles' story line has now been challenged on every point. Likewise the western press' sloppy and slanted reporting on the Olympic torch run and the associated tibetan protests have been rigirously challenged by chinese netizens all around the world. Simply put- the day and age when anyone could put up any kind of lurid stoy about 'the chinese' and have it believed is past.
Icemilkcoffee: Yes, Tibetan rioters have killed Han Chinese. No one has said otherwise. And it's going to get worse, because younger Tibetans don't listen to the Dalai Lama and have less compunction about violence.

Tibetans are not just pissed about religion; they are also pissed about economic injustice and being treated like second-class citizens in their own country. But the Tibetans are powerless. The Chinese have it in their power to stop the cycle of violence, and they won't. They go out of their way to provoke the Tibetans, in fact. So it's all going to continue and no doubt will escalate.