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OCTOBER 31, 2009 4:45PM

No More Talking Points: Political Women Are a Turnoff

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I’ve had it with political women.  I won’t date them anymore.  I don’t care how pretty or smart they are.  I don’t care how witty or sexy or otherwise attractive they are.  There’s something wrong with them.  [Note: this surely applies to men, too, but I don’t date men.]

I’ll tell you what’s wrong with them.  They’re painfully, eye-rollingly boring.  They’re predictable.  They never surprise you.  They stroll with their chosen herd of cud-chewers, rather than running with unpredictable, independent-minded… I don’t want to say “wolves”, so let’s just say “individualists”.

Political women are uncomplicated in a very unattractive way.  You know exactly what they’re going to opine on any given issue.  It doesn’t matter what the matter is at hand.  When they open their mouths about almost anything, you can see the party line emerging from the corner of their mouths, the hook buried deep, making its snaking course back to the chosen cable TV tribunes and party national committees. 

If this describes you, your partisan lens is convex, and my breaking up with you is closer than it may appear.

Bettina is a sous-chef.  She’s very good at what she does, which I always admire.  Though she has to keep it in a hair net at work, off duty, she has long, silky hair, which I always admire.  I was initially smitten.  Two weeks later, after listening to too many over-excited, rage-filled anti-Republican rants, I decided she was dating me, but was previously committed to Keith Olbermann.  She quoted him daily.  Good-bye, Bettina. 

Alicia is a cute-as-a-button stockbroker who survived the Wall Street devastation, thanks to the bailout by taxpayers.  She was concerned about the direction of the country.  Fair enough.  How so?  As she saw it, Joe the Plumber was right.  Really?  Yes.  And the way he was attacked was emblematic of the very worst elements of socialism.  My fanatic Spidey sense was tingling.  I checked.  Sure enough, she’d downloaded a phrase from some angry right-wing blog.  Good-bye, Alicia.

Surprising fun fact: Amateurs are the worst

 

The French have a couple of phrases I like.  “Plus royaliste que le roi.”  (More royalist than the king.) and “Plus Catholique que le pape.” (More Catholic than the Pope.) 

The point is that those we suppose to be the most devoted to particular world-views and issues are not always the most annoyingly zealous.

Remarkably enough, it’s not always the professionals who offend most.  One woman I’ll look up again works as a producer for a conservative mouth that never closes.  She’s a transplant from another country, speaks with an accent and is a registered Republican.  What does she think about her boss?  “Oh, don’t tell anyone I said so, but he’s typically full of excrement.”  She didn’t say “excrement.”  Why does she continue to work for him?  “Well, it keeps me in beer and skittles until the next thing, doesn’t it?”

Hypocrisy?  Pragmatism?  Doesn’t matter.  I like the pretty Brit with the decent dye job and the independent mind.

I met a Democratic political staffer who had a college-years abortion, but told me frankly that if she became pregnant now, she’d have the child.  Why?  “Because I could provide for a child now.  And because my views are changing.  I’m not as certain on abortion as I once was.”  I was enchanted.  I’m quite pro-choice.  But I was delighted by her layered, reflective position and lack of dogma.  Also, I reminded myself about the importance of birth control.

I’m amazed and not amused by the sharpening of the political divide – and the fact that it’s now affecting my intimate life.

I am sick and tired of encountering women who have drunk the red or blue Cool-Aid, and who regurgitate the latest talking points of received wisdom at me.  Because I know what’s coming.

Someday soon, you’re going to present me with a litmus test, as if I’m a SCOTUS nominee facing your committee of one.  And in the meantime, you’re going to be boring me to death with some Twitter update from Maddow or Beck.

I like a woman with enthusiasms.  Tell me about your last half-marathon, about the paper you’re writing about Rousseau, about why hitting a fastball is the hardest thing to do in sports.  I’ll revel in your excitement about Superfreakonomics, the promise of micro-credit loans in the developing world, or why you like to wear your high-heeled boots to bed.  I’m a moth to the flame of that light in your eyes.

But spare me the warmed-over key messages you’ve been politically educated and programmed to repeat.  Life is richer, more complicated and more interesting than that.  No, we’re not in an existential civil war.  Yes, everything will be okay.  No, I don’t care what they’re saying on MSNBC or Fox.

Yes, you look particularly lovely in that dress.  Yes, I’d be delighted to help you out of it.  It’s my most fervent interest.

 

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In which Stellaa is proven right
Surely the people you meet have more complexity than all that, don't they?
You're spoiling for a cat fight, but I agree with you. I don't mind opinions, in fact I welcome them, as long as they're truly the owner's, not repurposed sound bites. (And darling, why did you tell the story about my Democratic staffer days/college years?)
Politics are interesting and important, but they are definitely not the ONLY thing to discuss.
I guess I don't understand what comprises a political woman. A woman with an opinion? Or a woman who can hold conflicting views at the same time? Are you confusing political with intelligent? I think what you're saying is that you don't like political women who don't think for themselves. I think what you're saying is that you don't like women who get their political opinions from watching television, who are perhaps unacquainted with THE GUARDIAN or FOREIGN AFFAIRS, for example, or who don't understand the sources of phrases that they use. Take "drink the Kool-Aid" for example. A lot of people use it without realizing how offensive it is. How it refers to the 300 children who were murdered at Jonestown, or the hundreds of adults who were also murdered at Jonestown. So, before you meet the woman who can wow you with the complexity of her thought processes, who demonstrates her education by commenting that Plato's Allegory of the Cave seems even more relevant today, or why Rousseau's theories of child-rearing are pretty rich coming from a man who dumped 14 of his own spawn in foundling homes, or why Ernie Banks is her favorite all-time baseball player and soccer really is the beautiful game, you might want to think about what it is that you bring to the table.
I hear that you're frustrated in your search for female companionship, but my experiences have taught me that when one starts generalizing about the opposite sex, one is closing off the possibilities that you're actually going to meet that person who surprises you.
I do sincerely wish you luck in finding the right woman. I would simply urge you to stop dipping your own test strip in a beaker of foregone conclusions.
I just want to clarify that I'm not spoiling for a fight; I'm just trying to start a dialogue. There was no disrespect intended in my comment, even as I read it now it does seem a bit more snarky than I intended. The problem with trying to have discussions via the computer--we miss so much in tone of voice and all that.
I never did date one. I've had opportunities, but who wants every act to be judged and measured for political correctness. The idea that the personal is political was the death of relationships in America. It's dehumanizing. Something out of 1984. If I want a sermon, I would have gone to mass. If I want a lecture, I'll sign up for a class.
So I.C. London has two OS accounts?
I think what he's saying Fingerlakes is he is tired of people who see the world in black and white. Of the self righteous drones you meet, who are obsessed with politics and see everything through that lense. It is a drag and a bore. The equivalant of dating an evangelist talking about Jesus all the time. The women I date are usually intelligent but apolitical or moderate. They don't walk around with an armband every second of their existence. Now women like that can always meet up with men like that and they are welcome to them. I just have no interest dating Anne Coulter or Jeanie Garafola because they are self righteous and have a one track mind. politics, politics and politics.
Well, then, I don't want to date you either. phphpbbpbptttttt!
He has all of the virtues I dislike and none of the vices I admire
~Winston Churchill

And speaking of superfreakonomics , what are your thoughts on SuperFreaktasticPumpkinery
Well, if crime fighters fight crime and fire fighters fight fire, what do freedom fighters fight? They never mention that part to us, do they? George Carlin
BlackBart is back!!! yay
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hmm. I'm afraid we are all political creatures, each and every one of us. You won't be able to escape that unless you find someone who never speaks or does anything else at all.

Perhaps what you mean is you don't want to date people who only speak of politics and nothing else? Because the other way, it kind of sounds like you don't want to date women who seem intelligent. I can't believe you'd think that.
Hmmm...read and rated. (and thinking about it)
In summary: You like thinking women, not programmed women. Me too. Programmed people should stick with their kind (except for Carville and Matalin, who make no sense.)
Hi, Bart, Karin, Steve. One of you quoted Carlin, one of you quoted Churchill, and the other summed up my silly, verbose post in one line.

Awesome! Now I'm glad I wrote this.
Verbose maybe, silly never. Too many programmed types out there of both sexes.

"Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people." Mencken
Sally, I'm sorry for talking about you, but it was in such a fond way...

Fingerlakeswanderer... I'm sure you don't really think those things of me, do you?

Snoreville, may I offer an "Amen" to your comment?

Odette, now when have I ever been interested in anything but intelligent women? So, yes, it's the other thing.

sweetfeet: first of all, great name. Second, it's very fetching the way you stick your tongue out like that.

trilogy, I think that's the best comment I've ever had.
I read this earlier, but didn't comment. I think Steve Blevins sums it up nicely. The title is a bit offputting. It is not so much about politics, but the way someone thinks or processes information. I too detest people who just spout the latest whatever. You could remove politics and insert any other subject into this and it would read the same.
JK Brady, you've got my number, alright. The title *is* offputting. I'd change it, but that just wouldn't feel legitimate at this point.

Yep, you've got my number. Use it anytime. ;)
ooops, I have to confess, I tied my wagon to Steve's comment, but I have no idea who Carville and Matalin are, but then I am Canadian, and no one south of the 49th cares what I think. I do know who David Frum's (axis of evil) mother is however. Does that count? ;)

going back into the igloo now.
Ditto for men. If I am ranted at one more. Just let me help you out of your pants and be quiet Pleez.
I read this prepared to be angry since I married a politics boy, but I think you make a good point-It's not enough to like something or someone, you have to know why, and be able to explain it, as the grade school teachers say, in your own words.

One dimensional people are as boring in real life as they are to read about, whether its politics, fitness, or food.
I read this prepared to be angry since I married a politics boy, but I think you make a good point-It's not enough to like something or someone, you have to know why, and be able to explain it, as the grade school teachers say, in your own words.

One dimensional people are as boring in real life as they are to read about, whether its politics, fitness, or food.
Pfeh. What you don't like about the ideologues is that they get angry when you play devil's advocate, rather than, shall we say, impassioned.
BikeLizard, well said.

Mrs. Michaels... please allow me to introduce myself...
I sent you a long reply which got lost in the OS ether, so here's the shorthand version:

I'm accused of being obsessed with politics, and my blog of late supports that accusation. But I don't consider that a character flaw. What is a turn-off to me is women -- and men - - who don't care enough to pay attention to politics. Ignorance and indifference is what got us into the mess we're in.

As for politcs and romance, you couldn't pay me to copulate with Ann Coulter or Liz Cheney or Sarah Palin or Carrie Prejean, but an affair of the heart with Christine Amanpour or Stephanie Miller or Rachel Maddow? Yes, oh yes, tho I'm afraid Ms Maddow isn't wired that way.
Tom: Good call on Amanpour. I love a woman with big lobes (frontal).