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MARCH 7, 2012 6:41AM

The political views of some Bronx 8th & 9th graders

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I had a bit of fun (a bitter laugh goes here because of the sheer enormity of the effort it required) setting up a researched argument project with the 8th and 9th grade students at my school. The topic? The November election. Whenever it’s time for a non-fiction study unit in English class I generally make it political, whether it’s reading editorials or looking into a controversial topic that’s current. I want something that gets attention, is arguable, and connected to the real world in a very practical way.

This year the election was a no-brainer to me, and I started planning the project weeks and months ahead of time with our curriculum advisor at the school. That kind of lead time is not typical, just so you know. I normally start planning a lesson anywhere from a week to day to a half-hour before I’m scheduled to give it. That’s me. I’m hooked on spontaneity and I even do fairly well extemporaneously. I sometimes feel over-planning kills the life of something, but that’s a debate I guess I’ll continue to have with the curriculum advisor.

Curriculum advisor? Sounds a little fancy for a Bronx public school. And that’s a whole other issue. With the teaching standards changing and Bloomberg closing schools right and left, we’ve reached an entirely new level of bureaucracy. An army of people is required to get it right, and they and we get federal funding, a substantial portion of which goes for teacher training. Which is fine. I’ll take any help I can get, since as an NYC Teaching Fellow I started without any experience at all.

Every week our guy would come in from the non-profit organization affiliated with our school. We’d move the plan along, delineating what the students had to learn, how they would innovatively discover it, how I would know they had or had not learned it, and so on. The great part about the length of time it took to pull the whole project together was that the playing field went from having enough people to form a soccer team to the somewhat steady four Republican candidates that we have as of today (3/5).

The first thing to do is assess prior knowledge—that’s education-speak for finding out if the kids know anything about the topic. In this case they knew absolutely nothing, with the exception of one 9th grader who was quite informed and also quite excited about the project. There were kids who didn’t even know there was an election in November. Numerous students didn’t know if Obama were a Democrat or a Republican, if George W. had been a Democrat or a Republican. My feeling is this had more to do with the age than the demographic, but that’s only a hunch.

I gave them this article, which discusses the differences between Democrats and Republicans. It seemed pretty straightforward, and laid things out in a fairly fundamental way. I tried to find information that was relatively unbiased, and started from ground zero, that is, assumed that readers knew nothing. I had the students make a chart on giant Post-it paper about basic aspects of each party and the Democrats' and Republicans' positions on key issues. They loved this activity.

Next I gave them these NYT articles, which profiled the Republican candidates and outlined their specific positions on the issues. I gave groups a candidate and had them present the information to the class. Then I did basically the same thing with Obama using this article, which I was horrified to realize later was from 2008. But I was rushing, and it didn’t even end up mattering that much. And we also watched part of Obama’s State of the Union speech on this handy NYT site that had the text scroll along as he spoke, highlighting the topic he was discussing at the moment.

Some of the students were quite captivated by Obama’s speech and others were bored out of their minds and behaved accordingly. One of the 8th grade students was upset with his fellow classmates’ disruption and said to me: “Miss, they’re acting like this in the face of Obama.” I concurred with him that it was indeed blasphemous.

I brought out the Mitt Romney dog-on-the-roof story only at the end. The purpose was to rank information in order of relevance. In other words the dog story is a valid resource and might have a bearing on their paper’s argument, but it wouldn’t be the first source that was discussed. Nevertheless I did have a kid write a thesis stating that because Obama didn’t treat his dog badly, he was a better president for our country. Overgeneralization? Reductio ad absurbum? I didn’t even get into it. I told him to change it.

Having been given the five articles, the students were supposed to bring in two to three sources of their own. I figured I gave them some kind of groundwork, hopefully enabling them to form some essential opinions, and then let them look for additional material to support what they thought. Time and access to computers was limited, though luckily we were able to end the project by typing in the Mac lab. 

It took days to get a thesis, which I described as a one-sentence arguable statement that is an assertion. It’s amazing how many kids would come back with three or four sentences that didn’t assert anything. Many would also argue against themselves in the same paragraph, making it look as if a split-personality were at play. All this while wild shenanigans were going on in the room. I taught them in-text citations and how to write a works cited page. The whole effort was herculean in nature, but it was interesting to find out their views.

The students overwhelmingly professed to be Democratic and support Obama. It’s not too surprising. The student population is about 60% Hispanic, 35% Black, 0.5% White and the rest is made up of Asian, Arabic, Pacific Islander. Over 90% of the students qualify for free lunch. I just don’t think the Republicans have much for them. Interestingly, a few had strong feelings against abortion, and a few others against gay marriage. Of those a few identified with Rick Santorum’s criminalization of abortion even in cases of rape or incest. And then it came out that they didn’t know what incest was.

Most students, however, thought if a woman wasn’t able to take care of a baby abortion should be an option. And a woman making her own decision was a strong factor influencing the way they felt. Similarly on gay marriage—students bridled at the notion of politicians telling people what they could or could not do with their private lives. Most thought it was important to spend money on social programs to help people, and to help people in poverty. And most thought money should be spent to help address climate change and other environmental issues. It’s their world and they have to grow up in it. They also favored reduction of military spending and taxing the wealthy.

It was an exhausting project that took a lot of time both to pull together and to execute. But it felt well worthwhile. It almost ranked up with writing college recommendation letters for seniors in terms of what at times seems the all-too-few occasions when I actually feel effective as an educator. 

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It's so nice to see a professional teacher at work. I'm sure that by emphasizing only two political positions you've capably made sure that mention of other parties or points of view will not be something your students will be inclined to waste their time on.

This will ensure that the same two tired old apparent rivalries will continue to be fostered and keep their minds occupied so that they'll never tend to be open to doing things any differently than they are done now, in the future. This will save them much anguishing over dumping both the GOP and the Dems because they are all owned by the same masters and are but two faces of the same beast.

Yup. I'd say you teachers sure do know how to prepare your kids for moving on out into the world of yesterday very well indeed! But then there's no sense jeopardizing YOUR paycheck in THEIR interest, is there?
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I respect Teachers. My eldest son Teaches.

Michael attended Md. Institute College of Art.

Then - He studied Plant Science at N.Y.'s Cornell.

He had a job at DCs Bonsai Botanical Arboretum.

He taught at Saint James Parochial & Public Schools.

Now - He grows beets, peas, and lettuce greens etc.,

I'll email him this.
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Harvard dropout
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No sell hotdogs on Wall Street
If someone does - no itch behind
I say that because I saw a gross-out
A Frank Push-vendor itched his butt
Honest . . .
Maybe that's what wrong with America.
Yes. Teach.
If I were in your class I'd be the kid who ranks the dog on the roof as prime example of unfit leader :)
Good for you, for engaging your students on matters that will impact them. This gives me some hope.
Sounds like a wonderful project. You probably have a class more informed about issues and the differences between parties than a large number of voters.
You are a Real Teacher......good for you.
Do you really think you’re able to be an unbiased mediator as it relates to politics? I’ll answer that, as a New York public school teacher, you represent a group that is tied at the hip to the Democratic Party. Accordingly, you should not be trusted to provide children with an unbiased lesson on politics.

Lo and behold, your post is filled with ample evidence of your preference for Democrats. So before you get too full of yourself and your “herculean” efforts, Republicans would characterize those efforts as brainwashing. But take comfort in the fact you joined a long list of educators committed to advancing the agenda of the Democratic Party on a captive audience.
Johnny, Johnny, Johnny - when did you start reading my mind?

I too noted that there were no "right-wing" articles she provided, nice stuff from Townhall or Thomas Sowell or Dennis Prager or Jewish World Review or The Human Life Review (when speaking on abortion) or National Review or the Weekly Standard or even the Washington Times.
1. If you actually taught in line citations, bravo.

2. To the extent that the students didn't even know that there was an election -- again, bravo.

3. The charge of bias in the other comments may have some merit, but it strikes me as at least an order of magnitude less important than exposing the students to primary sources, real time debate over issues, fostering student engagement, etc.

Keep up the good work!!!!
Another comment regarding possible teacher bias.

If it were easy to 'brainwash' students, then why are they so immune to rhetoric like DARE and the abstinence advice.

In my experience, teenagers tend to disagree with adults about as frequently they are influenced.
A walk down memory lane...Thank you!!! What a gift you gave those kids...a great unit that expected them to do their own thinking and support their conclusions. It is exhausting, but so satisfying to create and conduct an event like this.
Nick:

“Exposing the students to primary sources, real time debate over issues, fostering student engagement” could all have occurred without the election as the subject matter. I suppose there are some public school teachers capable of conducting an unbiased lesson on the election, ManhattanWhiteGirl is not one of them. Oh by the way, if students aren’t influenced by teachers, can I get a refund on my taxes which are used to pay teachers to influence young minds?
Fever,
Don't you think that exposing 8-9th graders to the conservative propaganda machine is a bit advanced for the age group? While it meets the emotional level of some adults, why would parents want their kids to come home talking about mindless conspiracies and scapegoating?
I think that studying aberrant ideologies and the truth-evading propaganda they produce is more appropriate for teaching critical thinking skills to Juniors or Seniors in HS.
I love this article and the way it describes your ambitious teaching project. As a teacher myself, I know what a struggle it is to keep the attention of eighth graders, especially. Kudos for getting them interested in the political process. We need more involved young people, and hopefully they'll stay interested. Some of the comments here are amusing because your article isn't really even about politics, but about teaching. I guess the teacher-hating right-wind crazies will use any excuse to slam public employees and find conspiracies where none exist. Oh well.
Oops, I meant right-wing, not right-wind crazies. Although perhaps both are apt.
I want my kids to have you for a teacher!! Good job! And great post!
I keep remembering 7th or 8th grade, can't remember which, when we did a project for the election and my candidate was Ford and Dole. So that would have been 1976. Wow. We did posters, campaigned, and had an election. So what if we only had two parties to choose from, it is the process being taught that counts. I have co-workers today who know nothing about the current political climate and just don't care.