I am not a "hater", let me make that clear. But I am very tired of seeing the Blacks have it all their way, getting unfair advantaged treatment in our Society accross the board by playing that Race Card to the hilt. Obviously that is how Barack Obama - blatently unqualified, and very possibly a Bigot himself, and far too sympathetic to Radical Islam - our worst enemy no less - got elected President.
The big problem is that this state of affairs is ruining the Nation to put it bluntly. We cannot afford to elect President's based on Race, nor give away Jobs, entrance to Universities, promotions, ETC based on Race and not merit. It will result and is resulting already, in the fall of this Nation.
No doubt the "Political Correctness Gestapo" out there will waste no time in mis-labeling me a "racist and bigot". The fact is that Millions of American's out there feel exaclty the same as I do about this but are frankly afraid to voice their opinions least they be "pounced on" and mis-labeled as well. That is how bad the situation has become. Political Correctness has in fact become a form of tyranny in our Nation and people today are truly afraid and for good reason, to express their real views openly.
I believe the Blacks should have the same Rights and Opportunities as everyone else - a level playing field - as it were. But no group - Racial or otherwise - should have the kind of special privilaged treatment that the Blacks have acquired - period.


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I'd recommend you read my blog before you label me, unless you are merely another mouth trying to overcome the loss of the government to conservatism.
I won't even get into the sentiments expressed...
Signed - paid-up member of Political Correctness Gestapo and Grammar Police. And the Anti-lecture Squad.
However, it IS okay, that for multiple decades, that people of color got prevented from holding "jobs, entrance to Universities, promotions, ETC based on Race."
Yeah, you're right. A digging implement is still called a spade, even if it preemptively tries to deny it. You're a "racist and bigot".
P.S. and hon, you know where you can stick your "Political Correctness Gestapo" crap? Nice try, but I’m afraid that label don’t stick when it comes from somebody who rants for “equality” AFTER they got their own white, straight, male privileges granted to them.
This country may have come a long way towards racial tolerance and away from bigotry (but has a way to go, as your rant proves) but the idea that Obama got elected because of some collective, national affirmative action plan for the presidency is, frankly, ludicrous.
By making such claims, you are convincing normal, intelligent people that those opposing affirmative action are all a bunch of irrational bigots and damaging your cause.
I have a hard time seeing how a policy based on dividing people into groups based on skin color is going to help us build a society where the content of one's character matters more than the color of your skin. But thanks to people like you, if I express my doubts about affirmative action, I'll be lumped in with the likes of you.
No doubt you'll never realize how much you're damaging your own cause.
Let's start with Obama. I don't think most people voted for him because he is black. I think most people voted for him because he was the candidate of the Democratic Party, and a lot of people were fed up with Republicans. Even a number of conservatives voted for Obama. People also voted for Obama because McCain didn't run a very good campaign, and he selected a terrible vice-presidential running mate. Obama is also a great speaker; that might not be a good reason either to vote for someone, but it does make a candidate more attractive.
As far as your other point, I don't think that affirmative action is a very big factor these days. It used to be, but but I don't see a lot of that these days, certainly not to the extent that it's ruining the country.
There is still considerable political correctness around these days, but I don't think it has very much real-world effect. In a place such as Open Salon, sure, it's a big deal. On Open Salon the worst thing is to be a conservative straight white male, especially if you don't genuflect before the altar of the latest leftist cause of the day. But Open Salon is not representative of the larger culture; I would say it represents maybe 10 or 15 percent of the population.
There is uranium poisoning all over the west. Blacks did that, right? Sorry. White corporate Republican assholes.
The Dineh are moved off a part of their reservation lands in Arizona because rich coal deposits are discovered. They are then moved to an area saturated with uranium tailings--7,ooo of these people die and they are suffering serious birth defects as a result. Blacks, right? No. John McCain and John Kyl.
Ohh--and global warming is at an almost unstoppable stage. Blacks again? No. Republican policies that thwart any kind of recognition that there's even a problem.
You poor, sorry, misguided, uneducated, self-righteous, pompous, monstrous ass.
And, you know, you won't find any surprise here. I for one am quite aware that there are innumerous people who think this way--who were were initially blessed with a functioning brain, but apparently decided to retire it and form all their opinions based on rant radio and faux news instead.
Anyway, on a related note: I was watching a wonky speech by Bill Clinton the other day (P.S. - I like him) and he pointed out that, if US demographics continue at the current rate, by 2050 there will be no defined "majority" in the country. I personally look forward to the day when everyone is beige.
"I am very tired of seeing the Blacks have it all their way."
Hmmmm, all the way from Africa chained to oars huh?
If you aren't a "hater", it illustrates just how much we have to fear in this country. Wow. Your home must be blissful.
Jesus! What fucking cracker!
Paul, I'd suggest that your casual ignorance and anger are better examples of what is wrong with this country.
The big problem is that this state of affairs is ruining the Nation to put it bluntly. (THIS NATION IS IN RUINS BECAUSE OF A RICH, SPOILED, WHITE BRAT NAMED GEORGE BUSH and DICK CHENEY) We cannot afford to elect President's based on Race, (WHO HIS FATHER WAS) nor give away Jobs, entrance to Universities, (A YOUNG GUY WITH A LOW IQ GETTING INTO YALE) promotions,(GOVERNOR BY PROXY OF DADDY) ETC based on Race and not merit. It will result and is resulting already, in the fall of this Nation. (PEOPLE LIKE YOU WILL RESULT IN THE FALL OF THIS NATION)
No doubt the "Political Correctness Gestapo" (LIMBAUGH, O'REILLY, HANNITY, BECK, ETC........again) out there will waste no time in mis-labeling me a "racist and bigot".(NO, YOU DO A DARNED GOOD JOB YOURSELF) The fact is that Millions of American's out there feel exaclty (SIC and not surprisingly) the same as I do about this but are frankly afraid to voice their opinions least they be "pounced on" and mis-labeled as well.(IF THE SHOE FITS...) That is how bad the situation has become. Political Correctness has in fact become a form of tyranny(TORTURE HAS BECOME THE WAY OF THE CHENEY) in our Nation and people today are truly afraid and for good reason, to express their real views openly.
I believe the Blacks should have the same Rights and Opportunities as everyone else (THAT WOULD BE REVELATION NOW WOULDN'T IT? IF THEY EVER DO GET TREATED EQUALLY?)- a level playing field (AS OPPOSED TO THE UPHILL STRUGGLE THEY ENJOY NOW)- as it were. But no group - Racial or otherwise - should have the kind of special privilaged (SIC, DAMN, SPELLCHECK MUCH?) treatment that the Blacks have acquired - period. (YOU ARE AN IDIOT. PERIOD)
you have deep seeded problems. The cool thing about Open Salon is that it allows a forum for anyone to blog on any subject with any viewpoint they want. I do suggest you take advantage of this forum and keep us updated on your psychosis and paranoia. But write it down in crayon and mail it to yourself.
Fear much?
And Devilgirl . . .your "cracker" comment is just a nasty as you are accusing him of being.
YOU, a white guy...
Honestly believe...
That *I*, a multi-racial woman...
Went to college ONLY because my grandmother was half black?
Went to college ONLY because my grandfather was ALL Lakota Sioux?
~Howls with laughter~
I hate like Hell to be the one to tell you this... But I WORKED HARDER to get into college than ANY WHITE MALE ever has!
I'm reasonably sure that some white males ALSO think that the ONLY reason that I have the job I do is because of my "race" rather than the undeniable FACT that I have more than DOUBLE the education of my (WHITE) male counterparts...
Furthermore, you don't capitalize "race card." Or "bigot." Or "radical" when it's in the phrase "radical Islam." Or "race." Or "jobs." Or "universities." Or "millions." Or "rights." Or "opportunities." Or "racial."
You didn't earn a high school diploma, did you? Did you even pass grade school? If I was a teacher, and a third grader handed me something like you wrote, my red pen would have run out of ink.
Grammar is your friend. Learn it.
The War Between the States (1861 – 1864) was fought to make all men (women) free. So, you should educate yourself to the fact that color is not the reason of your discontent… it is the bias of ones ill-educated upbringing.
I grew up in an area where this is truly the way many white folks feel. They are spoon-fed everything that conservative republican politicians want them to believe, and even though they distrust the government, they still somehow believe what they are told by "grassroots" organizations that are really fronts for WELL-moneyed people in power. My parents are in that class of people, and they are generally good-hearted people, as I suspect that Paul is (although I freely admit I might be wrong). They have friends--as much as is possible in this situation, real true friends--who are black. They say they aren't racist. But they are still hanging on to beliefs that hold them back, hurt good people, and make them pretty much social outcasts in every part of the world except the backwoods and Southern America.
Another big piece of this mess comes from black politicians and power-mongers, such as the ones in Memphis, who love to add fuel to the fire--you see, as long as they keep the races hating each other, they can further their own agendas. They have created a lovely little bubble around their world, much as the conservatives and corporate mega-executives have.
Neither group has to really see the damage they do in a personal sense, so to them, it's collateral damage. People like Paul, and people like a girl in Memphis I know, we'll just call her Jane--they are caught in the middle, fighting the wrong enemy. Evil bastards use their passions to distract them from what the real problems are.
So to you, Paul, I say that while I understand what pushes you to the brink, I am sad to hear that you have fallen for the propaganda regarding Obama himself and black people as a whole, because it cheapens you, and I know that can not possibly be what you want. I don't like some of his policies (as I didn't those of W), I don't like some of his mannerisms (as I certainly didn't like some of W's), and I absolutely refuse to give him carte blanche on health care reform (even though I think the current system stinks). But those things have precisely ZIP to do with his race, and that's the only way one can fairly approach criticisms of the President or anyone else.
I am NOT advocating Paul's views. However, the venom commenters spew his way won't ever change anyone's mind, nor will it make anyone who agrees with you feel better about it. Even if your intention is to convey dismay at an injustice, doing it this way solves nothing and alienates people like Paul even more. You may think this is no great loss, but hate and venom will breed more of the same, and this cycle will not end by name-calling from either side.
The crux of the matter is that injustice happens, and we should be opposing all injustice, at least as much as we're able.
I would bet you by the typos and poor use of grammar that Mr. Leshne was about to throw a clot as he wrote the words above. I would bet that he had visions of punching black people as they ALL, en mass line up for their welfare and Pell Grant checks. (They all get those, you all know that, right? It's a law!)
I would bet that Mr. Leshne passes a black man, woman or child on the street and mumbles because they have full bags of groceries in their hands, paid for with his tax money!
I would bet that Mr.Leshne is compensating for some little thing (pardon the intentional pun) that's missing in his life. You know Paul (can I call you Paul? I feel as if I know you...) they sell blue pills and implants for that problem. Some even come with a little implanted pump under the skin! It's a start.
I think the ideology of hate has no place in society. You see Paul, I don't hate you at all. These liberal, left wing nut jobs that have written on here don't hate you. We're not haters (for real), we are people trying to understand your rage. And your rage is lost on us. Your white President, and his mostly white administration effed this country up royally and now you're blaming the black man who has been on the job for 7 months. Oh yeah, and he has worked EVERY day up until now as opposed to his predecessor who didn't work at all his first 7 months in office.
You're preaching to an empty church. You're singing under water.
I only mock you to send a message. Your opinion doesn't count unless it has validity. Yours has none.
The "racist" and "hater" comments are neither helpful nor appropriate in a discussion forum. They are used as a way of shutting down discussion -- the idea apparently is that if you put the right label on someone, then it's Miller Time and nothing more need be said.
The problem I had with the post is that there is emotion but no argument, no facts, no statistics, no analysis, no serious examples. If someone wants to argue that blacks are terrific or terrible, that's fine with me. But then MAKE the argument. What this guy wrote so far is just empty. He's pissed at blacks. So what? Why should I care about that? Maybe he has good reason to be pissed, but I have no idea because there's no significant information in the post. I'll discuss anything with anyone, but without information there is nothing to discuss.
I would bet you by the typos and poor use of grammar that Mr. Leshne was about to throw a clot as he wrote the words above. I would bet that he had visions of punching black people as they ALL, en mass line up for their welfare and Pell Grant checks. (They all get those, you all know that, right? It's a law!)
I would bet that Mr. Leshne passes a black man, woman or child on the street and mumbles because they have full bags of groceries in their hands, paid for with his tax money!
I would bet that Mr.Leshne is compensating for some little thing (pardon the intentional pun) that's missing in his life. You know Paul (can I call you Paul? I feel as if I know you...) they sell blue pills and implants for that problem. Some even come with a little implanted pump under the skin! It's a start.
I think the ideology of hate has no place in society. You see Paul, I don't hate you at all. These liberal, left wing nut jobs that have written on here don't hate you. We're not haters (for real), we are people trying to understand your rage. And your rage is lost on us. Your white President, and his mostly white administration effed this country up royally and now you're blaming the black man who has been on the job for 7 months. Oh yeah, and he has worked EVERY day up until now as opposed to his predecessor who didn't work at all his first 7 months in office.
You're preaching to an empty church. You're singing under water.
I only mock you to send a message. Your opinion doesn't count unless it has validity. Yours has none.
Please get past the race issue and focus on substantive issues. And no, I don't mean, attack him on other issues but still harbor racist sentiments. I mean really, take that racist jacket off (or hood) and look at policies and the research and determine what you think.
I also couldn't believe you posted your real name and picture. I'm embarrassed for you and your family. I've dealt with racists before, but they're truly obsolete, not to mention that they sound (and possibly are? how would we know?) stupid.
denese
I feel sorry for someone so sad inside and empty of good.
I wish you would get some kind of education before you write such sad stuff my dear.
I don't see anything to back up your statements here. Nada thing.
Write more and tell us how you decided such things.
That's when you know you have written something really abysmal. Go to www.rushisabigfatidiot.com and write your swill.
"You poor, sorry, misguided, uneducated, self-righteous, pompous, monstrous ass."
BR
The word is blatant. Don't expect me to let you pass on that just because you're white. White men need to learn to communicate properly. I am quite tired of carrying you in hopes that you will assimilate. Now is the time. Become fully literate.
Secondly Paul, lets do a cursory perusal of the 20th century in America. The purpose is to analyze your premise of privilege being extended to blacks to the detriment of whites, or anyone. Within the 20th century, not even going back any deeper or going outside of the borders of this country, it has only become legal for, how shall I say it, people other than white protestant males, to move freely throughout society. Those legal guarantees where begun in the second half of the 20th century. White people were not put into internment camps, prohibited fro owning property, not allowed to vote, under represented in government, held out of employment, etc. These things were AFFIRMATIVE ACTIONS in favor of white men. This is the status quo. The issue of your racism is hardly a concern. Racism is certainly your right. I am not concerned with that. What is concerning, and should be a concern for you, is your ignorance of American history. Your premise demonstrates an utter failure to grasp the causes and effects of even 20th century American history. You are disturbingly ignorant. Racism is way down the list.
This country allows you say these things, and while I couldn't disagree with you more, I strongly and vehemently defend your right to say them. That's what REAL AMERICANS do.
I can use this post as an object lesson to all that say we live in a post racial world, to show them, in fact. that we don't. I can show my adult children that this type of virulent racism still exists in our country.
I can't blame you for that Paul. Your parents taught you how to hate. They were extremely effective. You're very fortunate to live in the south, because if you lived in the northeast, you would be the subject of ridicule, and probably feel out of place. That's a shame.
I hope you will engage with the commenters here, Paul. I mean that sincerely. I want to get to know you better. After all, I've never gotten to know someone with your view of the world. It's fascinating.
Theres a quote out there you should take to heart, "better to remain silent and be thought to be a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."
Luckily, you're a dying breed.
My condolences to your parents who, I'm sure, had hoped that you would accomplish more in life than having to stand in line behind
"the blacks" who have managed to get ahead of you because of the color of their skin. I'm sure that they taught you that being white should never get in the way of being able to advance in a country that is full of opportuniy for people who are willing to work hard and overcome any obsticale life puts in the pathway to success.
I looked at your profile and your favorites list and realized that you are relatively new to Open Salon. You will find that this is a rather friendly and progressive platform full of diversity. Diversity of people, diversity of points of view and perspectives, and diversity of ideas. You will find that on this platform you have the right to be openly ignorant and publicly stupid, which you obviously have every intention of being.
So, rather than offer a comment that excoriates and criticizes you for being yourself which by accident of birth and fate you cannot help. I bid you welcome to Open Salon....Be advised that I will take special pleasure in cutting you and everything you write here to ribbons.
I just don't think you have mental capacity to comprehend the fact that if you pay any kind of attention at all you could learn from the experience. Frankly, I don't think you have enough mind to be able change it without causing severe and permanent psychological and emotional damage or harm.
I just hope that I can get my licks in before the others here say everything that can or needs to be said, as they have done in their comments on this post.........
I live in what some describe as "redneck heaven" and I know that the majority of people here in this rural northern Appalachian area feel that way.
There are few people of any other racial group here but whites and people fear what they do not know. They also fear any change and believe that their lives are threatened. They feed the fear to one another and go to conservative churches where it is fed some more; they belong to the NRA because they are all hunters and there it is fed some more; they listen to conservative talk shows and believe the Russ L's of the world where the flame of hatred is fanned; they largely vote against their own economic interests and are overwhelmingly Republican.
But ever so often they wake up. This county voted, by a narrow margin, for Obama. Such freedom of expression behind the closed curtain of the voting booth is not what they talked about over beers at the local tavern that night.
They are caught in a culture where it does not pay not to conform to the conservative line. Yet, most of them are otherwise good people but they are driven by their fears not their hearts nor their heads.
Perhaps you are these rural folks of limited experience with living with those whose skin is of a different color than your own. Living as you do in a major Southern city, I think that is not the case. If not, and you have a reasonable education, are well informed by mainline news and are in an urban area where there is diversity of thought, religion, ethnicity and social values, then you are simply a bigot.
There is no excuse for the positions you take when viewed in the context of American history. You and your ilk have held back the ethical development of this nation since its inception.
I don't know whether your post is a joke designed to provoke, or whether you have written it honestly. It doesn't matter much. Either way the positions taken are foreign to everything I think this country is supposed to represent.
I'm not buying your confused and brainwashed position.
Monte
PS- Seeing some black guys waiting for a bus does not count as interaction. I'd really appreciate a response.
Many of my friendships are white (and some are even white Republicans.) I found myself in a heated discussion with two white Republicans on a fishing trip in Alaska one night. We argued about Bush and his foolishness all throughout the night. The next day we went back to fishing. Today I still consider the man who invited me on the trip (who also voted for Bush and subsequently McCain) a friend. We do not need to be in synch politically. It is irrelevant information. I mention this because I am proud to say that I grew up.
Racial hatred for the sake of skin color differences will forever cut you off from a world of beautiful people. If you haven’t realized this by now you probably never will. That’s a shame. I wish you luck. I honestly think you’re going to need it.
I know you feel terrified. Change is happening, and you feel helpless to deal with it. Still, try not to act like a terrified jackass. It does you no credit and helps no-one.
Hope you feel better.
Maybe an indicator of this guy's IQ?
Oh, and one more thing, I've never yet seen anyone elected either in your country or mine, who's truly qualified for the job. Democracy, by its very nature, isn't concerned with qualifications, rather with personality.
Stevie Wonder is blind. What's "colour" to him?
Your choice. We aren't going anywhere. We run the game right now.
YOU paul sewerage.
I believe in free speech. I believe in discussion without throwing insults. I think Harp has already said most of what I'd like to say to you.
This, in addition to my strenuous objections, is a good reason not to encourage Mr. Leshne to come here.
Anyone who feels we’ve transcended racism in America need only read your post. You must have been a huge fan of Archie Bunker.
Welcome to Open Salon
Stay right where you are. You can get away with yourself there.
I'm going to take a copy of this blogarbage with me when I go fishing this afternoon and use it for "bait".
It sure does seem to get a lot of bites.
A couple of you here who haven't snobbed me in the past KNOW that I am a white guy from Chicago who has the reverse attitude of this guy and, I want to say something about Pres O.
I voted for him to vote AGAINST the REAL ANTI-Americans.
I WAS hoping that he would do the right things.
Race was not an issue in my voting preference.
Race is NOT an issue in what I am about to say.
I feel betrayed by him in his policies.
I'm 70 and KNOW that there is no actual difference in the two parties.
What we REALLY REALLY NEED is a true third party made up of REAL Americans who really WILL do the right things.
Back to Bobby Bigot's blog, I wonder what he'd have said when'if he saw the interactions I've had throughout my life with black girls & women who are my FELLOW AMERICANS?
Can you just hear him?