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OCTOBER 26, 2009 1:34AM

Biting through

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From 1998 to 2003 I worked on what would become my first finished novel. This book, set in 1960 (I was there before "Mad Men"!), was about a fictionalized Joey Bishop, his relationship to the other members of the Rat Pack, and the 20-year-old would-be dharma bum he hired to drive him back and forth from Hollywood to gigs in Las Vegas.

The book was called Make Nice, and it was good enough to get me a literary agent.

It was wonderful to actually have an agent. For a few years I could go to literary readings and conferences and feel like I belonged a little, even if my book wasn't published yet, because a professional did have confidence in it. She did a fantastic job.  Editors at a dozen top New York publishing houses looked at it. Then...  none of them bought it. Came close a couple times, but no dice. 

While she was flogging Make Nice, I was working on another book, a comic novel about a San Francisco office worker who gets sent to India to help open an offshore call center. I completed a couple of drafts and gave it to my agent. She gave me a critique and sent me back to do more work. A couple drafts later, I was ready for her to look at it again...  and then she quit the literary agenting business. 

So I'm trying to find a new agent for my book Mango Rain (which has had other working titles, but we won't go into that).  About ten days ago, I started sending out queries to potential agents; yesterday I got my first form-letter rejection. With this fresh in my mind, I found these words by the writer Augusten Burroughs encouraging:

As a writer, you can't allow yourself the luxury of being discouraged and giving up when you are rejected, either by agents or publishers. You absolutely must plow forward. I believe that if you have real talent as a writer, a true gift, you will eventually be published. But it may not happen according to your schedule. And it may not happen with the first manuscript you create. Or the second. So you have to be, if not patient, at least endlessly tenacious.
Once I decided to write, to be published, I knew it would happen. I knew that if I wrote a new book every six months or every year, if I continued to read great books, eventually I would write something worthy of publication. I understood I might be in my forties or my fifties or even my sixties, but I felt confident that it would happen. The reason I was so confident is because I knew I wouldn't stop trying until it happened. And this is the secret. You don't need to be confident. You just need to be stubborn.

Ordinarily I'm not one for inspirational passages, but I think these words pass the bullshit test. My favorite part is where he says if he continues to read great books, he'll write  a good book of his own. Nowadays, it's reading that inspires me, not news of book deals or visits to bookstores.

Maybe my novel Mango Rain is worthy of publication; I think it's pretty good. It's funny and topical and I even went to Bangalore to research it. At least it should be worthy of an agent's confidence. I'm giving it a shot.

 

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Let's hope, we could use the advance. I like the quote. Could apply to anything, really. I hope the process of writing a book is some reward. Writing it and reading it over, feeling the heft. I'm grateful to be able to enjoy it vicariously.
Cheers, Mark...and best of luck. I recently surprised a client when he asked me about the most important thing a writer needed and I answered, "Confidence." I think it's true.
If it helps any, and it doesn't, you got further than I did, Mark. I sent out 90 queries and got close to getting an agent a few times, but never broke through. (My first blog post is about that--well, my second, actually; the first was just a blow-off.) I'm not giving up on it, though; small publishers are next on the list, the one that I've headed, "People I intend to give an opportunity to kill my soul. Again. Some more."

Best of luck, truly. I empathize.
There is new trend arise in publishing business.When multinational corporation acquired all independent publishing houses all over the world.This new caste of literary agent arise in publishing world without their help you could not publish your most classic also..Multinational boss are uneducated and donot know the ABC of publishing they entirely depend on this literary agents to judge book good or bore. they are deciding test of readers,if they select any book, all other languages publishers blindly publish that book in their language,this is now stereotype boring business. Multinational boss donot care about quality of book their only cart-aria is book saleable or not,they make publishing business a hell.
Ramesh, I think I know what you mean. The agents are now "gatekeepers," channeling only the best work to editors. I don't mind this system. I know there are a lot of writers out there putting a lot of content into the system, and somebody has to winnow it.
Great post Mark and Burroghs' words do ring true for me. Also, don't hesitate to shop the book to the remaining indie publishers. You won't make that big advance or be placed with those NY houses, but your book(s) may be released with more of your intent intact.

When I was shopping around "Beer, Blood and Cornmeal," I didn't really like the direction that agents seemed to want the finished product to go in. They wanted it really short, light and vignette driven. One agent told me to go indie with it and that turned out to be the right choice for me.

Rated.
"You don't need to be confident. You just need to be stubborn."

Truer words were never spoken. To paraphrase Syd Field, a good book doesn't go unpublished. Keep at it Mark, and thanks for sharing your experience. Its inspiring in its straightforward reality.
Write, rewrite, submit, rewrite, resubmit, writhe around the floor wracked by anxiety and financial stress. The sexy, all-t00-common life of a writer.

I'm sure Mango Rain is a worthwhile read, if for no other reason than this post is entertaining and well written.

Keep bangin' on doors. One day, the right one just may open for you.
Mark -- I got a new Hollywood agent some years ago on a Friday, she died in a riding accident on Saturday. I sold a pilot to Aaron Spelling, the guy who championed it died before the ink was dry on the contract. I had a lit agent at CAA who, in the middle of a negotiation, quit to become an interior designer. I've had two publishing editors quit or get other jobs two days before books of mine were to come out, thus making them orphans. And that's the tip of the iceberg.
I feel your pain R.
Great advice and much luck to you. I'll be sending out those query letters soon myself. Crossing my fingers for us both.
Your words are truly encouraging. Thanks for taking your time out to remind the "new guy" that these achievements take diligence. Rated!
John: holy crap. I hope your luck has improved. Or maybe I should wish better luck for your agents and editors!
This rings familiar and true for me, too. And I do think persistence is about 90% of it for all artists. When you hear the stories of successful ones they generally have many years, often decades, of struggle to get work or get recognized/published. It's sort of winnowing of the wheat from the chaff -- those who really want to be writers, artists, actors, etc. stick with it through not just dozens but probably hundreds of rejections.

So yes, hang in there and keep working. And...have you seen "Outsourced"?? A sweet little movie that sounds similar to your novel.
Been there done that. Two agents who adored my work and could not sell it. I parted company with he and have since written two more novels which need an agent which I am in the process of finding. This is a sad old story. Just keep sending out he manuscript.....
Oh I forgot (John's tale of woe reminded me).... My first novel sent out by my second agent was of great interest to an editor at a nice small house, until she found out she had breast cancer the same week she was talking to the agent.... and the book was about a woman with breast cancer. You can't make this stuff up
I'm feeling your pain and admiring your tenacity.
Both my friend and I had agents who did nothing. Talk about exasperating! That may be why I now have a fictional agent - and I don't mean an agent who represents works of fiction.
from friends on the inside, it's a scary f'ing business. but i admire your stubbornness -- and your writing -- and am thinking you'll break through, if anyone can.
Same thing happened to my first book--I finally shelved it years ago. Only for me I had a senior editor at HarperCollins go ape shit over it and then after 2 years said no go, hard sell, good luck. I have now finished my 2nd book (2 years ago, actually) and am beginning to see the same thing happen here. I will probably end up shelving that one too. I have 2 short collections with about 60 short stories and 9 screenplays, 2 new stage plays I am just finishing. I am working on my 3rd novel.
And so it goes....to quote Kurt Vonnegut
I certainly have what it takes then; I have been called stubborn once or twice. Thanks for sharing! Good luck finding a "worthy" agent.

I went to a local writer's conference and my suggestion is to find published authors that you like and ask them to recomend an agent. You will probably want an agent that is experienced and can rattle off a few good authors that they handle.
Writer's attending the conference had the pleasure of pitching to one of two successful agents from the New York area. We also listened to the agents speak during the conference.
Tai, thanks for your comments. I have a number of friends and acquaintances who are published writers, and when I had finished my first novel, I asked most of them if they would kindly refer me to their agent. They all agreed, so I was able to write to the agent "Your client so-and-so referred me to you." This was very successful -- just about all those agents agreed to read at least the first 50 pages of my book, and some of the asked for the whole thing. But none of them wound up taking me on as a client. It was only when I began sending out queries to agents whom I had no connections with at all that I found an agent willing to take me on.

In retrospect, given that my agent never did succeed in selling that book, it might be said that those agents who read the book (or part of it) and rejected me were right the first time. I dunno; I thought it was a really good book. Anyway, I'm trying again with a completely different project.
And all this work to produce something that won't even earn back your costs of creation, let alone the time, sweat and blood you put into it. Unless you're going through all this pain for the ego of seeing your book in a store (even if it's in the clearance rack) there is no reason to think that writing is a paying profession.

Writing hasn't been a paying profession for years, and it won't be ever again. If your stuff is good, people will read it on the Internet for free. Your publishers will rip you off and critics will rip you up to prove THEIR "superior wit." If I were you, I'd give up and just keep practicing your Wal-Mart Greeter Smile.
I've written and published two academic trade books with very respectable pblishers, with a third on the way. Agents? Tell me about it. I'e had 4 nad they have never done a thing for me. I just finsihed a novel and have now sent out about 50 letters. Those who turn it down do so because they love it: they praise its virtues and then complain about the market.
Just keep plodding. It will happen and please try University Presses--University of Michgan, Louisiana State Univ Press, Northwestern.
Best of luck
tomreedtoon -- You're right, there are people who think they're going to write a book with some magical combination of elements and get a million dollar advance. And it happens -- take the comic thriller "Beat the Reaper" (http://sf.metblogs.com/2009/01/08/sf-doctors-book-released-film-to-star-dicaprio-interview/) by a young San Francisco doctor. He got a million dollar advance, and on the day the book came out, it was announced Leo DiCaprio would star in the movie. People get distracted by this kind of thing and think it's going to happen to them, and it won't. That's certainly not why I'm writing novels, and the same is probably true for the other writers who have commented on this thread.

Why am I writing novels, you might then ask. I guess I should write another post about that.
I always encourage people to write. I think it's a fantastic thing that most people can do -- it's therapeutic, it's creative, and what you write may help others as well as yourself. I just think people confuse writing and publishing.

I had a friend many years ago who I hadn't seen for a while. I asked what he'd been up and he said, "I've started writing." "Fantastic!" I said. "What are you writing?" "I've had idea for a novel that I'm sure can be a best seller."

I didn't say anything but you can guess what happened. He spent 2-3 years on it, paid several editors to help him revise it, had agents look at it, never got anywhere. His focus the whole time was that it was a bestseller-in-the-making, and he really wanted to earn money from it, even though it was his first written work. He ended up spending money (as well as tons of time, of course) on it rather than making any.

And I'm betting he's one of tens of thousands of people with similar tales.
To Mark,Iam publisher publishing books from last thirty years. I visited twice to Frankfurt book fare, I know first hand what these so called literary agent do there. In previous era independent publisher himself gatekeeper he decide which book to publish, which to refuse. He is business man as well as teacher search talent in society and bringing new knowledge.
Multimedia publisher only interested to publish saleable books he do not care new talent or new knowledge.They make publishing just like vegetable market.Can these multinational corporation publish book of NIETZSHE OR Dostoevsky.A genuine writer write book because of urge, he donot care people read or not only independent publisher understand their urge,commercial literary angent are joker they are born only for dancing tune of market economy.Can they understand the urge of Gustave Flaubert who wrote "I your satisied what you wrote than donot care if even single reader got your book ornot..
No, Mr. Prichard. You completely misunderstand. I mean to say that in a short time, NO one will be paid a FREAKING DIME for writing. You weren't paid to write your excellent article for Salon, were you? Why should a publisher, either on line or in the dying print magazines, pay you anything for writing anything?

And I'm not talking about the blue-sky million-dollar advance. I'm saying you won't be paid back for anything you do. "Thanks for the article. We'll print it. Why should we pay you for your paper, toner, or effort? You're just a writer. You're not worth anything. In fact, you're a pain in the ass. Go away. There's thousands of people just like you who want their ego stroked. Get out and don't use our bathroom on the way out."

That is not the far-flung future of writing. That is the present. You just don't realize it. And the people running writing magazines and writer's workshops want to keep you from realizing it as long as they can.
The last few years have shown us that certain unhelpful things are true:
1) Anyone with a computer and a little persistence can turn out a 300-page manuscript of something in a year or so.
2) Lots of dreck gets published as it is.
3) Some of that dreck sells a lot of copies.

These facts make people think that if they have created a simulacrum of a novel, have given it their best shot, and their spouse thinks it's wonderful, then they are somehow entitled to a publishing contract. Even if they cheerfully admit that it's not the greatest book ever written, because after all, see no. 2 and no. 3. These are the people who wind up paying editors to help them with their manuscripts, and who fall prey to "agents" who demand money up front.

This syndrome is part of the great American delusion that someday you will be rich and famous, the same delusion that makes people go on reality TV, or even more pathetically, fail to get on reality TV. It's also part of the great American democratization of what were once elite occupations. Seventy five years ago, only a few people were mountain climbers, because it was so impossible given the technology of the time. Now any idiot with a thousand dollars worth of equipment from REI can get himself stranded at an altitude of 18,000 feet -- and he's probably calculating what kind of book deal he can get out of the experience, if he survives.

Writing a novel should be hard, the equivalent of climbing Mt. McKinley in the 1930s. Getting an agent and getting published should be even harder. Because the problem these days is... see no. 2 above.
tomreedtoon, the questions you raise are good ones and I think I have more to say than a comment will allow. I seem to have enough for a new post.
Good luck. I'm on the same route myself ... trying to overcome the automatic inertia of rejection. It's really just a matter of luck -- assuming your book is good. Persistence is the only meaningful tactic. Mulish stubborn persistence.
Silkstone:
"I always encourage people to write. I think it's a fantastic thing that most people can do -- it's therapeutic, it's creative, and what you write may help others as well as yourself. I just think people confuse writing and publishing.

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Yes, I believe that it is the “journey rather than the destination” that matters. But I also wanted to share my story because I believed it might help others. So I chose self publishing my book. At first I thought there was a stigma attached to self publishing, as if those who go that route are the rejects, failures, marginal writers whom agents and 'respectable' publishers don't even look at. The lepers of the writing world. But, I don't care what anyone thinks, I had a story to tell and I told it- not for narcissistic reasons or ego patting. If I get my small investment back I would be happy, but I'd be happier if my story reached out to many readers.
I love reading about other writers' struggles to write, to get published. It gives me heart and courage. It's inspiring. I wish you perseverance and luck.