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Mary Ann Sorrentino

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Mary Ann is a columnist for the Keene (NH) Sentinel, the Providence Phoenix and other newspapers and has appeared on Salon.com She was an Associated Press Award-winning radio talk host for 13 years and the Executive Director of Planned Parenthood of RI 1977-1987. Her most recent book, ABORTION - The A Word (Gadd Books) is available on line and in major bookstores.

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APRIL 20, 2010 9:52AM

Popes, Horses, Sex, Poison and "Mysteries"

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 The Meeting between Leo the Great and Attila - fresco by Raffaelo Sanzio

  The Meeting between Pope Leo the Great and Attila 
Fresco by Raffaello Sanzio  - 1514

Catholics are told to accept a number of what the Vatican calls "mysteries" (that Christ allegedly changed water into wine at the wedding feast of Cana, for example.) These are often legends in Catholic history thought to need our pondering, or dogmatic concepts which either cannot be logically explained or are so absurd that the hierarchy's only defense is to tell the faithful that the inadequate lay brain could not possibly comprehend them.

           

A legitimate rosary, should include the announcement of each of the so-called "mysteries" from one of the several categories- Glorious, Sorrowful, Joyful or the recently (2002) added "Luminous--" before each decade of beads is prayed over.

           

So let's borrow the concept of "mysteries" in the church and use it for a thoughtful examination of why Catholics continue to endure in a church so clearly -- and now so publicly-- troubled.

           

Part of the problem may rest in the willingness of Catholic laypersons to submit to a code of beliefs that forces them to abandon logic and reason at several points along the way. I am not talking about religious mythology. Many faiths have myths, with magical imagery and "gods" or "goddesses" capable of superhuman tasks, metamorphoses and leaders who are in direct communication with god (often on a "nearer my god to thee" hilltop.) Other sects also may have rituals, statuary and their own version of what some Catholics call "smells and bells." They can build ornate houses of worship, enforce codes demanding public penance, dietary laws, and often a need to discourage familiarity or, worse, intimacy with "outsiders."

           

What they do not have, however, is the illogical myth of the unchallengeable infallibility of their top human leader. The mysterious human/infallibility oxymoron coupled with the absence of any mechanism for questioning papal statements, let alone laws, and, finally the absence of papal "term limits" (however incapable a pope may become) constitute a uniquely Catholic nightmare.

           

For Catholic laity, the greatest "mystery" may be its own total powerlessness-- the handicap of having no voice in choosing the priests who will minister to them, no voice regarding clergy  tenure, promotion or termination. "Parish councils" in the Catholic context are mainly fundraising arms of a church-- the people who worry about making sure the roof gets fixed and that the money is there to fix it. Occasionally, a council may raise a serious question about a pastor or celebrant, but if the discussion gets too hot, a bishop will step in to make clear who is really in charge.

           

This is the real "mystery" of 21st century Catholicism: that millions of laypersons (many of whom are literate and even highly educated) have been willing for centuries to accept such tyranny and its resulting subservience, in silence. Despite recent speculation about the future of Pope Benedict XVI and his church, nothing is likely to change, urbis et orbis, as they say, in our lifetimes.

 

As I've written before, the only way that popes leave their place of power short of natural death is, historically, by having been poisoned, by having someone arrange to have the pope "fall off his horse," or a similar engineered end. Admitting the current pope might have made an error would put every pope going back to Peter in the line of fire. 

 

Those predicting Benedict XVI's eventual stepping down

over the sexual scandals swirling around the Vatican must face the reality that it's just not going to happen. He's there for life (unless, of course, someone loosens the saddle on the papal horse-- and that is unlikely since he's driven in a limo.)

                                 

 

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I didn't really get the "shepard" analogy so often used in the Catholic faith until I went to the Pretend Farm and watched her goats blindly and infallibly follow their leader around the farmyard. As I watched them, I was actually thinking "That's what Catholicism is like". The people are expected to blindly and faithfully follow the leader, their good shepherd, unquestioning, believing ..... and for the life of me I don't know how or why they accept that in the 21st century. Of course, many don't, and the rate of church attendance continues to drop.
Well, I don't purport to be an expert in Catholicism but I thought the allegation (obviously, challenged by various non-believers) was that it's a tyranny because God wants it that way. That is, the whole notion of religion (e.g., illustrated by Mormons, Scientologists, and other “controversial” religions) is that whoever wants to start one asserts pretty much whatever they want (or whatever they claim God said they should assert) and then it's an unassailable matter of church dogma—you either believe or you don't. It's an internal matter for Catholics to decide if they want to mutiny (possibly bringing down the wrath of God if they're wrong). My point is that, as I understand it, either Catholicism is the one true faith and the fact that others don't agree is just an artifact of the general truth that when you aren't believing the right thing, you're just making stuff up (and so maybe everyone else makes it up wrong, and only Catholicism gets it right that there should be a tyranny) or else Catholicism is not the one true faith, in which case the least of their problems are the tyranny.

But religions are what they are, and they are accepted on faith. Once you start to pick and choose (outside of whatever paradigm your chosen church offers you), as I understand it, you're basically making up your own religion, not “fixing” the religion. If there really is a Catholic's notion of God and he really has gone to the trouble to make a Pope, etc., then I'd guess it matters to do what he says. Or, at least, I don't understand a way to understand what they offer in any other way.

If I recall correctly, the movie South Park thoughtfully sums up this dilemma in its usual good humor by getting everyone together in Hell and announcing that only the Mormons were right and everyone else is going to burn. (After all, if it matters to be in some particular denomination and you're not in it, then you've got a problem.)

Then again, I'm not religious myself so I might be misunderstanding it. I think my sensibilities are not dissimilar to those you've stated, but most of these are questions of definition, not of politics. (Then again, the cynical might regard that the whole game in church politics is to get people to believe it's all definitional, so they don't question it. No, nothing is every simple.)
The supremacy and infallibility of a leader, be it in a patriarchal or matriarchal arrangement, is an older format for creating consensual human reality. Human tribes didn't know jack, so we entrusted ourselves to the wisdom of our elders. In the modern world, we employ a different system: the structure of reality is created by a confluence of science and 'experts'. The shining edifice we know as 'reality' is built in historical layers; the foundation is based on the the wisdom (and mistakes) of our historic leadership, with subsequent layers of bricks created via various forms of scientific inquiry and 'expertise'. Intermittently we find ourselves removing old, foundational bricks and replacing them with newer ideas. I submit that traditional concepts of reality are not wrong in the wholesale, but form a meaningful basis for our psychological makeup as human beings. The creation of reality is an ongoing process. But the very deepest foundation of reality, the part that forms the 'cellar' of the human-built edifice, is Mystery. No one, not the traditionalists nor the modernists, has all the answers; no one has the entire truth. And so, until we uncover that truth, we are left with a loose, free-form structure, based on a mix of both ancient, traditional and modern ideas.
The fact that this church knowing moved pedophile priests from one parish to another, especially to minority parishes, is enough to demonstrate that it hasn’t the foggiest notion of god. Sort to puts the cherry on top of its middle ages inquisition deserts. Their actions are a monstrous evil perpetrated on their flock.

Yet people still believe in the “one true apostolic church”. I don’t understand why because to me any institution is only as good as its leadership. When they fail their membership, it’s time to find new leaders, but from where? Inside the college of cardinals who knew what was going on and allowed it to continue?!?

If anyone wants to believe in god, it should be between them and their chosen deity, leave any organizations out of it.
"This is the real "mystery" of 21st century Catholicism: that millions of laypersons (many of whom are literate and even highly educated) have been willing for centuries to accept such tyranny and its resulting subservience, in silence. "
--you need to study history. First, those of the 21st C haven't been living for centuries. Second, the Church history is mingled with political history. If you spoke out against a your country's policies, you were speaking against the monarch and Rome. Imagine a lay person speaking out during the Spanish Inquisition, which was a political tool of Ferdinand and Isabella of Spain. BTW - the Dominicans and Franciscan orders did speak out against the Medieval Inquisitions. You think witch hunts (conducted by Protestants) are wrong? You just spoke out against the King and they have a fire for you - or a pond to drown you in. Today, in the the 21st Century, many Catholics question the Church, or any institution of power, and they discuss it quite openly. Jesuits are quite famous for it - they are pro-abortion and support the LBGT movement

"What they do not have, however, is the illogical myth of the unchallengeable infallibility of their top human leader. "
--I'm guessing you've never met a Mormon who believes absolutely that Thomas Spencer Monson is the "revalator" of God's will on earth - he'll lead till he dies. Or a Buddhist who follows the Dalai Lama - also lifetime leader. Last I check, the Queen of England is still the Supreme Govenor of the Church of England and will be until she dies or steps down from the throne. Or that Republican who thinks that Reagan walked on water.
"The mysterious human/infallibility oxymoron coupled with the absence of any mechanism for questioning papal statements, let alone laws, and, finally the absence of papal "term limits" (however incapable a pope may become) constitute a uniquely Catholic nightmare."

Indeed~
A lot of people - Catholics included - do not understand that the Church doctrine says that the Pope is only infallible in only a very specific context when he is speaking "ex cathedra". This does not occur very often. Other rules such as unmarried priesthood are not infallible.

I think the Church does not go out of its way to make this clear because they like to have Catholics cowed. They also don't like to remind people that they can only commit a mortal sin if their conscience believes it to be one, making people think that going against Church teachings they don't believe in will send them to hell.
Again, well done, Mary Ann. It's my impression that intelligent, literate Catholics often find a wider church structure to remain faithful to and discount the parts they recognize as absurd. Often they seem to have a place in one of the many liberal pockets of the church that are all over the country. They are the Catholics who are committed to the social gospel and they are a great force for good. Some of it is as simple as the comfort of familiarity and even very intelligent people can be lazy. This is just my experience.

Rated with extra points for dogmatic concepts which either cannot be logically explained or are so absurd that the hierarchy's only defense is to tell the faithful that the inadequate lay brain could not possibly comprehend them.
Thanks for all these thoughtful responses. I think your comments are generating a very worthwil debate here...soooooo much to think about! Thanks for the rates as well.
And oh yeah, on a lighter note - roflmao about adding another set of mysteries to the rosary. Keeping the old ladies on their knees 33-1/3% longer - that's going to sustain the church!
I think Kent makes the point that picking and choosing from a religious dogma in a sort of a la carte fashion pretty much invalidates said religion.

I’m an equal-opportunity anti-religionist; they’re all bad for humanity in general. Organized religion has always only been about political power and always only will be about that. But Catholics are not the only fools. Just consider the wide-ranging views in America that only good Christian men and women can run for public office; that is not unique to Catholicism.

Religion should be a non-issue entirely. But this has been the modus operandi of religions from the start, and especially these newer monotheistic religions like Christianity and Islam.
The relationship in the U.S. between the laity and the clergy in the Catholic church is similar to that between American citizens and the government; often the masses live their own life feeling completely disconnected from the powers that be, unknowing of what really transpires behind closed doors, hoping for the best in both character and action, but not willing to take on the battle.

That's for those who continue to remain within the communion and attend church.

On the other hand, there are some 4 million 'fallen-away' Catholics in the U.S. Apparently that is how American Catholics respond -- by leaving and joining another denomination.

Politically, the Vatican is a sovereign nation within Europe. There is little Americans could do. The EU however...
First of all blanket assumptions about people of faith, which abound in the world of liberal blogging, are part of the reason that the GOP is winning on "family values". Having faith, I learn at Open Salon, is "lazy" and "irrational" etc... Likewise, marriage, monogamy and fidelity are skewered as well. It is little wonder that people of faith, who may believe strongly in social justice and some of the positions of the Democratic party, feel compelled to vote the other way. At least the Republicans aren't, essentially, calling them stupid and backwards. And it is very off-putting that the political side that advocates tolerance so loudly so often does not tolerate people of faith with the same good will that they demand everyone else be tolerated.

In my experience, having been in Catholic education for 16 years, most Catholics--even teens who sleep through theology class--know that the pope is not acting in infallibility when he ties his shoes in the morning or at any time when he does not intentionally (and in practice, carefully and rarely) issue a infallible document or teaching. That doesn't happen every five minutes as seems to be assumed around here.

Secondly, there is a principle in practice in the Catholic church that decisions are closest to where the effect will be. An archbishop may desire that a parish open or close a school or build a new facility or some other undertaking. But the local parish will make that decision for themselves. Churches can , and often do, request a certain priest to be assigned, kept or removed. The parish I work for requested that a young associate stay longer than originally assigned at one time and the archbishop agreed. The same parish has asked that a priest currently here and assigned to the high school be reassigned as he does not work well with teens. He is being reassigned. Very few American bishops rule with an iron fist as is implied in this post; dioceses are big and complex and ruled more or less by committees and staff that oversee various elements such as social services, education, etc... (One exception is in Lincoln, Nebraska--you would find that diocese is the exception to every rule in the U.S, though).
I feel I have to say that I am interested (if not amused) when the reaction to Catholics fighting for changes in their church is to tell them they can't "pick and choose" : this is the Catholic Church -- love it or leave it. People who suggest that, if they aren't observant Catholics, are often people from one of the Protestant sects that came about as a result of the biggest criticism of all called the Reformation! Why is leaving the Catholic church "reform" and trying to right wrongs in it "from the inside" less noble, somehow???
Years ago I had a letter from Fr. Andrew Greeley, the author and priest (this was when I was in the news for being kicked out because of my work in Planned Parenthood.) Greeley's advice?

"You must never leave the Church, but you must stay there and bother them!" I and others intend to do that, though I cannot call myself devout, by any stretch....
They may not be able to loosen the saddle on his horse, but brake lines on limos can be cut.

Just sayin.....
(One exception is in Lincoln, Nebraska--you would find that diocese is the exception to every rule in the U.S, though).

So guess which diocese I'm smack in the middle of?!! Bishop B has done a grand job of driving his "flock" to the nearby diocese of Grand Island, not to mention to the local Lutheran Church because of his archaic rulings.

I must admit that I miss the traditions and ceremonies of the RC Church, but I don't miss the hypocrisy at all.
Mary,

You ask, “Why is leaving the Catholic church ‘reform’ and trying to right wrongs in it ‘from the inside’ less noble, somehow???”

Have you run across this? I agree fully that neither is more or less noble; both acts suggest the same problem.
@bluesurly--yikes. I'm sorry. I'm next door in Omaha. I'm looking for a new job, and my husband and I talked about the possibility of relocating if we have to since I make a bigger salary. One huge issue for that, though, is that we absolutely will not live in that diocese...so we stay in the boundaries of ArchOmaha, or go far enough west to be in GI. Or leave the state. But Lincoln is just not an option. It was always a bit conservative there (I grew up there and attended Catholic schools there) but since Bishop B's arrival, it has become positively medieval. It is, however, a nice illustration of how the Catholic Church is not a monolithic entity. Anyone who thinks it is could simply go to mass in, say, Wahoo in the Lincoln Diocese, get in the car, drive 20 minutes to Fremont in the Omaha Archdiocese and go to mass and learn that the Catholic Church can differ drastically from place to place.
The history of what has happened to some of these Popes is quite interesting. I'm a recovering Catholic and believe this sex scandal has been brewing since the beginning of the Church. It's finally, after all these years, caught up. I also believe they will do nothing.
Actually, the doctrine of papal infallibility was first enunciated in the 19th century. I don't know the historical context of it's adaptation, but I would bet it was political. If there are any experts on church history, they might want to weigh in on the subject.

Like a lot of the commenters, I too am an apostate Catholic. But my family remains close and faithful to the church. And they are as hurt by and pissed of at the hierarchy as most. They don't want to hear it, at least not from me, but I have insisted to them that what they need is some sort of eccliastical Magna Carta in order to begin to bring the church into the modern age.

The topic here is power and powerlessness, and it is a plague upon the Catholic Church. I agree with you, Mary Ann, that the hierarchy will never let go of power. If there is a challenge to the power of the hierarchy at the end of this odious scandal that is now playing itself out, I confidently predict that Ratzo's response will be something along the lines of "it is not possible to challenge the authority of the Holy See." But the church (that is, that mass of faithful out there in the pews) must not relent. The power and authority of the Vatican must be challenged.
It's no mystery to me. I was raised Catholic and went to Catholic schools most of my life. "Question Authority" was anathema to almost all of the Catholic school teachers. We were taught to follow follow follow the teachings. Don't rock the boat. That's what they taught us. And, our parents reinforced it.

I really don't think the Catholic Church will survive if it stays on this path. It MUST become democratic. Truly democratic.
I was wondering when you would delve into some of the dark history of the cc. Surprisingly, many people are not aware of this or do not make the connection between the old days and the current days of the church, like it's some other catholic church (NOT theirs). I've always thought of the shepard analogy as the judas lamb, goat, cow that's the animal that leads the other animals who blindly follow without question into the slaughter house.

Of course Benedict won't admit he was wrong, he doesn't want to give up his cushy job as GOD ON EARTH with all the subsequent cash and perks. If he says he's wrong, he can't be GOD!

My prediction is someone will take him out. Someone will go medeival on his ass and he will have an unfortunate accident or food poisoning. Someone in that city of corruption will have a 14th century house cleaning. Then all the lies, denials and coverups can end. His cronies can be booted out and some honest man can be named Pope.
Someone who will then take the time to do what is right by the chidren damaged by the mess.
It's true, what Elizabeth Brady said below about the Pope speaking "ex cathedra," but he's also considered infallible when talking about "faith and morals." This pope no longer has the credibility to discuss morals when he's ignored the sins of so many priests and actually has the nerve to tell other Christians to repent--as if they can do so in his stead. Instead, he would do well to lead by example.

Only outright rebellion in the pews or mass defections will cause the changes necessary, but I don't think either event will ever occur.