MARY T. KELLY

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Family, marital, and individual psychotherapist. Specializes in stepfamily dynamics and difficult transitions. I try to write from the heart with a sense of vulnerability, humor and a frank look at myself.

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MAY 29, 2009 3:17PM

It's None of Your Damn Business

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(Questions, oh the questions that are really nobody's business) 

I don’t know why it’s taken me years to realize this.  I am by nature a very open person.   I put myself out there.  I’m vulnerable, I’m honest about my shortcomings.  I’m sure I have blind spots, but I am willing to take a look at whatever patterns I have that may be hurting others or myself.

I also don’t think I’m unique.  I don’t think that I am all that or anything special.  I believe that at the core of it, we are more interconnected to one another as human beings than not.  We all want to be loved.  We all want to be seen.  We all pretty much struggle with some kind of neurosis, some kind of anxiety, some kind of deep fear.  This seems to be universal.

Because of this belief, there have been many times I have not been as protective as I could be of my privacy.  I have given personal information to people who hadn’t earned the right to hear it.   People who weren’t safe.  I was and still can be an “over-sharer”.  Let me give you an example.

Years ago, I was nine months pregnant with my second child.  My first child was only 14 months old when my second was born.  I lived in Laguna Beach at the time, and sometime around my due date I was at the grocery store with my baby/toddler.  There was a long line at the checkout stand.  I started putting my groceries on the conveyer belt and the cashier looked at me, looked at my huge bulging stomach, looked at my son and said loudly, “Whoa!  How did you let that happen???  Don’t you know how it all works?"

Now, I can’t tell you how many times I had heard that same obnoxious IT’S NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS question before.  And I can’t tell you how many times I answered it.  I could just kick myself for how many times I answered it.

This time was going to be different.  My face turned red and I tried to create a boundary of privacy and said, “Well, I’m sure your mother explained to you how these things work.”

I was so proud of myself.  It had no effect.

“No, really, I mean it.  HOW DID YOU LET THIS HAPPEN TO YOU?”

I was a 28-year-old woman with a college degree.  I had left the Catholic Church years before.   However, I went into “obedience” mode and answered the woman’s intrusive question.

“Well, you see, I was nursing full time, still got my period when my child was 7 weeks old and was using a diaphragm.  I must just really be fertile.”  

She was shaking her head with disgust as if she didn’t believe me.

I turned around and saw the long line of people leaning towards me uniformly as if choreographed, raptly caught up in the details of my fertilization and poor timing.

They were looking at me with huge grins on their faces, making no attempt to hide their unexplainable glee at my story.

I grabbed my groceries and my baby and walked out furious with myself.  Why did I feel the need to explain my personal life to complete and total strangers?  What the hell was wrong with me?

This pattern continued every time I got pregnant (which was 2 more times).  “Oh, don’t you know how babies are made?  What were you thinking?  Aren’t you aware of over-population?”

Always the questions, the questions that implied accusation and judgment…. always me, trying to explain, justify, rationalize something that was nobody’s business but mine (and maybe my husband’s).

Years later during my divorce, the rude questions began again.  I was the other half of the quintessential American dream couple.  The couple Barbie and Ken would have been jealous of.  The couple no one ever thought would get divorced.  The questions were often and relentless.

People I hadn’t heard from in years were suddenly totally interested in me.  Phone calls came in like telemarketers on steroids.  “Mary, I heard you’re getting a divorce.  I’m so sorry.  WHAT HAPPENED?”

Again, the unnecessary need to try to explain “my side of the story”.  Again, the horrible feeling when I got off the phone after exposing myself, getting naked with those who didn’t deserve to know, hadn’t earned the right to know, having the sinking feeling that I had just been used.  99% of those people, once they got the “dirt” never contacted me again.

I started getting smart.  And I started coming up with the perfect comeback line:

Obnoxious nosey person:  “Mary, how did you allow yourself to have four children in under six years?”

Me:  “WHY DO YOU ASK?”

Obnoxious inquisitive person:  “Mary, why are you getting divorced?”

Me:  “WHY DO YOU ASK?”

Obnoxious nosey person:  “Mary, are they real?"

Me:  “WHY DO YOU ASK?”

Ah ha!  This began to work.  People would stammer and stutter and change the subject.  Some were like bulldozers and refused to be stop.  For people like this I would usually relapse into my codependent need to be “honest”.  Again, I would chide myself and tell myself, “Okay, no need to beat yourself up, just keep working on it.  It’s a long-standing habit.  Stay with it.  Learn to say nothing.  Learn to keep saying, “Why do you ask?”

I’ve spent a fair amount of time working on this.  Deciding when I want to share, expose, be vulnerable.  I continue to naturally be a person who is willing to share my humanness, but I've slowly learned to do it on my own terms.

I’m learning that every relationship, even the close ones, even the most intimate ones, need privacy…a place that is just between them and them.  A place for me where it is just between “me and me”.

My newest revelation has been on how this applies to my husband.  My husband is a quiet man.  I am a person who loves to connect with others.  I love to connect with him.  Sometimes when he’s quiet, I pry.  I probe.  I get in his face.

“What’s wrong?  What’s going on?"  

"Nothing Mary".

“No, really what is it?” 

“Really, nothing.”

“No, no, it seems there is something.  Talk to me.”

Inevitably, this leads to some kind of dance.  One step in his face, one step he backs away, another step in his face, another step back.  The dance that can commonly lead to a fight.

Perhaps this should have been obvious to me, but growing up in a large family with 4 sisters and 2 brothers, the boundaries weren’t so clear.  I’ve realized lately that even with my husband, the person I am the closest to, what’s going on for him is really none of my business.  He’s aware that he can share it with me.  I don’t need to become an interrogator to know what is going on for him.

I’m discovering the power that space has.  When I create that space for my husband, when I back off, leave him alone with his thoughts, it gives him the room to come to me…or not.

And I’m also realizing the value and worth of my own privacy, my own private world, my own inner sanctuary…that sacred place of relationship with only myself.

And perhaps the next time someone asks me a question that crosses that privacy line, instead of saying, “Why do you ask?” I will say with calmness and grace, “It’s none of your business.”

 woman with boundaries

 (Not me, but you get the point)

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Good post Mary. I do recall my Grandma saying it frequently and encouraging me to say it.
It's good to be first ... for a change.

Don't ask.
*Channels Stephen Colbert, and shakes fist*

Damn you grandma!!!!!!
I've had those moments. Nosy people bother me.

"If I wanted you to know, I would have told you." works for me. I find it humorous that people get pissy when you don't get give them details. :)
It is called "personal sovereignty." It makes us kings and queens.
Ah, thanks. I'll start out with "why do you ask?" I also spent too much of my wasted youth explaining things to people! Also catholic - rated.
our husbands sound like they may have come from the same seed!
Great post Mary. I often have the same issues and now will try your advice. Good for you for continuing your personal growth-it never stops as you know. Boundaries can be hard but they create clarity.

rated for reminding me to remind those that cross mine
Awesome.

I only ever get the "How are you doing", but I enjoy replying with "Howdy", or if I'm in a really crappy mood, in my most chipper voice I can muster, "Really crappy! Thanks for asking!"
Sometimes I use a little more aggressive form of this question - "why ever would you ask a question like that?" That usually stops the interrogation. But you have to be careful who you you it with. It could also stop all interaction forever.
Yeah, what is the deal with pregnancy? So many people drop normal ettiquiette and start talking/asking about the most invasive, private things. I never did get that.
Definitely going to use that! In fact now I'm hoping someone will ask an intrusive question, just so I can use it...No. I can't wait... I'm going to go call my mom right now!
Sometimes a smile and nod of the head speaks volumes. --rated--
You've almost got it right -- "It's none of your damned business." And don't worry, the identity of your secret love (PC) is safe with me.
People are really nosy in Boulder! I wonder if the "overpopulation" comments came about because Boulder is a liberal college town.

Being a guy, I haven't really had the same issues as you but several years ago when I lived in the northwest, a woman asked me if I was living in my car. I was by the way. It's much more preferable than paying for rent, utilities & Internet.

I could relate to the bit about your husband. Even though I call my blog "Introvert World", my wife is even more introverted than me so I get the MYODB quite a lot from the wife.
Rated for the grin you gave me--"Why do you ask?" Sounds just exactly like my wife when I ask her questions. A wonderful post.
I was amazed at how many people asked me when I was pregnant, "was it an accident?" And I was married. How rude.

"Why do you ask?" is good. I may have to use that.
Why do you feel the need to know? also works. Or if someone says something obnoxious saying, "Could you repeat that please, I must not have heard you right?" works if followed by a simple, "Oh my. That is what I thought you said."
It's a tough balancing act, but I suppose that is what wisdom is all about. Perhaps we can adapt the AA serenity prayer for compuslive sharers:


God grant me the serenity to allow those I love and care for into my personal world;
the courage to to hold others out when they should mind their own business;
and the wisdom to know not to intrude on others space when I am not truly welcome.
Yes, "Why do you ask?" is a good answer. I have occasionally said too much before.
Excellent tip. I find ways to change the subject. I've even gone so far as to point outside and say, "Have you seen that sky? Incredible, isn't it?"
I tend to volunteer a lot of info----but, on the other hand, I hate it when someone presumes to ask a too-personal question. You've supplied me with a great response. It sure beats..."How is that any of your fucking business?"
Okay, now that I've read all the comments, I have a confession to make. I think it would really be hard for me to say to someone, "It's none of your business"...even in the most nice big smile way. The "why do you ask?" one I can do. That's nice and innocent enough. I might be able to ask, "Why do you need to know?" as Dorinda suggests. That would be a good one and then they might think I'm psychoanalyzing them. That always makes people nervous. I'll ask how they are doing and they will say, "You're not going to analyze me are you?" Then I said, "Not unless you're paying me!"

Denise: The "accident" pregnancy question is SO RUDE. Even if 3 of mine were accidents, it's nobody's business! In fact, with the 4th one, I got smart. I lied. The question would be, "Was it planned?" Rude. But I would say, "Oh absolutely. We so wanted 4 children. This is so planned." What can people say after that?

aphrabehn: I like your approach and glad you left that doctor.

Ben: "Personal sovereignty"....love it. Especially since I am a direct descendant of King Brian Boru of Ireland (and a Mayflower descendant of Miles Standish)...need to remember that.

Gwool: It was a tie...maybe OS needs to add a time that includes seconds...I'm sure you would have been first.

Juliet: I loved your comment and the mom part. I'm sure I do this to my kids. My sons don't allow any private questions...my girls are more comfortable with them.

m.a.h.: Damn, now that I think of it...I think I asked you a personal question or two when we were visiting. Hope I wasn't too annoying.

To everyone else...you know I love hearing these comments. I wonder if women struggle with this more than men?
Ha! I'm just like you, you know that, right? But your defense is brilliant. I'll try it. And I'll try to avoid doing that dance with my wife, with me in the role of you.
Rich...I know you so I had to smile when I read your comment. It's the push/pull tango of relationship...so common.
Oh and JL...my first mother-in-law and father-in-law were very intrusive. They just wouldn't take no for an answer and I wasn't strong enough then. I could do it now, but not then. Glad your mom learned so you could learn.
Mary, I can relate to you completely....even having four kids in 6 years. I also heard rude comments....especially when I was pregnant with our 5th and 6th child. I also offered too much information to people....and still do. I'm not sure why I feel I need to explain myself to anyone. It could be because I'm an open person and enjoy sharing. It could be because I tend to be trusting. I'm also gullible. Even at almost 50 years old, I still have a lot to learn! Thanks for your post.
Mary:

These ancestors entail a looking outward that does not compare with looking within. It is the king and queen in you that I refer to. Spirituality has lost it's meaning. Why is it that suffering is what makes us human?
The most annoying question is"What did you pay for that?", whether it's a house, a car, a lawn mower, a sweater, or a hamburger. Why do people want to know??? I think it's just rude. Next time I'll just say "It's none of your business!"
I couldn't agree more. I'm far more private about matters with strangers or even close friends when it comes to what I'm willing to share, but I do love that answer, "Why do you ask?" I can promise that I will be using that one!
It's funny you wrote this today, Mary, because I've only just come to some realizations about myself relating to this, sort of. I'm doing some interviews for my master's capstone project, and it's clear that I have trouble with uncomfortable silences. As it turns out, the kind of interviewing I'm doing actually requires a few of those, in order for the subjects to fill them. In other words, I'm not the one who's supposed to feel uncomfortable and spill any beans--the other person is. But I never gave them a chance b/c I was so intent on making them feel good or so worried about their discomfort about not knowing the answer to the questions posed that I hopped right in. Anyway, I'm slowly learning the value of the space between words. It's still hard for me to wait that extra beat, but in the long run it's made me a better listener.

Thanks for the great post.
Hi Mary,

I know this person because I am this person. I am an over sharer. When we meet someone new, say at the local market and I talk to them my husband launches into his, "I am Denese _____ I live in ____ I come from _______ and I have done _________."

Hmmm. So, I get the evolving from that state to one that honors privacy, that of you and yours.

Having a Korean son, we always just spilled all before questions started so that we could get them out of the way and get on with the business of being normal and living. I think we all still do that to an extent, and although I wonder whether or not it is a violation of my son's privacy, I don't really want to breach that topic with him because he seems perfectly happy, as are we, with just sharing and not focusing on why or how people are stupid and nosy. There's something to be said for not having angst over everything.

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Oh Ben, you know that was now that I look at it, a glib and superficial response (pleading the end of a long week). Spirituality seems to be having a big comeback, or maybe that's how it feels in Boulder, Colorado. If I didn't have a spiritual life, it wouldn't be pretty. As to the suffering, I don't know, I wish I could understand it. But the growth seems impossible without the pain.

Anything about money is rude and I found out it is rude to ask a farmer how many acres she/he has because the answer will denote what kind of "wealth" they have.

umbrella: I'm out of order here but I loved your comment.

Lainey: A lot of people are uncomfortable with silence. It is surprising how powerful silence can be. But I'm with you...doesn't come as naturally for me as it does for others.

denese: In our family, this is a pattern. My siblings and I are very friendly, gregarious and open. And it can go way overboard at the grocery store, the hardware store, the coffee shop, etc. One of my children loves to tell the story of coming home from school. I was on the phone for another 40 minutes. I was laughing and chatting away. When I got off, said child said to me, "Mom, which friend are you talking to" and I said, "AT&T!".
Oh I just LOVE this. And I love the phrase "verbally naked." What a great post!
Tom, I changed the title. Hope you're happy now.
Mary---if if everyone knew you, it would be a much better world.
Mary, I have had such conversations with the AT&T operator.....
Why don't you just simply tell them that God spoke to you as a burning bush and said he was going to give you a child.

Then *DARE* them to contradict you...
...and damned good, Mare! Does this mean you are growing up? Damn! That means I have to, too?!?!!!
Well written, relavant, validating.
I think I just deflect it back - but I'm not pregnant and I don't have kids so I only get questions about why I am not pregnant and don't have kids.
"Because I hate children." usually shuts people up.( i don't really hate children.)
Speaking as the King of over-sharers I have to agree. We all have to be a private whole person. None of your business is an excellent way to go. Thanks Mary.
Americans are too indoctrinated in politeness. This is precisely what I talk about when I say that assumptions can be ruder than the vilest expletive. I would have made that person run to a lawyer to scream (in vain) about a libel suit. They would have felt as though someone raked their brain with steel pins.
Oh, I'm CHEERING, Mary. I'm going to learn from you on this one, 'cause I do the same thing, overexplaining. I did it with a FOUR YEAR OLD recently who was criticizing my housecleaning. OMG. Good for you, and good post.
I have been asked some incredibly personal and bizzare questions, or just had people make some amazing statements to me, in the past. I FINALLY got to the point where I don't even bother to answer. This is great.
Ahhh Mary thanks so much for writing this. It's taken me a while as well to figure out what to say. I had 3 kids in 4 years and I certainly knew what caused it! But the two really tough responses were 1) from my mom: MY GAWD girl are you knocked up again!?
Well besides blushing furiously down to my toes because I figured Mom thought the first two were the products of immaculate conceptions so I was more aghast that she knew all along I"d been doing the 'nasty' with my husband (Girl jest cuz it's there don't mean you gotta use it! Learn to say no to your husband! )

2) was an unexpected meeting with a work colleague in what turned out to be the OB/GYN for us both. She asked what brought me here and I told her I was pregnant and needed to be checked up more often since I had had bleeding during the first trimester. When she realized I had 2 very young children at home, she said: Why didn't you just let yourself miscarry then all you'd be here for is a quickie D and C (dilation and curretage)? Also we both know women you could go to and get this 'taken care of'. (we were both health care professionals so we did, indeed, know where women could go to get 'help' in this, the world before Roe v Wade.)

By now I, like you, had begun to work on strengthening myself so after I shoved my dropped jaw back up into my face, I replied: You know ( and not that it's any of your business plus what you are talking about could get me arrested for murder, )I decided that if
G-d wanted this baby to live so badly it successfully fought off all threats to its existence then who am I to deny this youngster the best care I can find for it?............then I got up and sat elsewhere rejecting her apology (something I don't do frienquently) but she was a grown professional woman and short of having been raised in a barn as a feral cat, she knew better.
I'm glad I went thru everything to have the 3rd baby (and tied my tubes afterwards!) Baby Girls just turned 40 and has given me more joy and aggravation than I ever earned...she has a black belt in bad ass karate!

Also women aren't good and using their bodies with these questions. Once I say: I"m not prepared to discuss this with you, then I turn my back to that person. If that doesn't work then I make up something and say it at the height of my voice: O M G! Who would have ever thought YOUR brother (sister, dog etc) would do that?????However did you manage to get thru it???Do tell me please in case I must ever go thru it. (very evil grin) Works every time:)

Rated
In the animal kingdom, when one animal from a herd wanders a bit, steps out of the pack, lifts its head up from the huddle, the herd feels endangered. Our instincts can trigger fearful feelings whenever we want to allow ourselves a bit of separateness, a bit of privacy, when we want to look about and rely on our own perceptions. We can feel frightened when we simply think for ourselves and act on our choices, refusing to ask for approvals, offer explanations or give excuses.

People who come from large families have the hardest time with the individuation process, often developing what I call "borg mind". It is a more primitive arrangement, with no boundaries. They live in a continual state of communication which forms a kind of group mind, a single, tribal entity.

It is very difficult for participants in group mind to then erect the boundaries necessary to create the private space required become a modern, individual self. The group mind resents individuation, seeing it as a betrayal, reading only danger and fear in the person who seeks only to to become an individual.
Good post. You definitely tapped into our need to "explain" ourselves when faced with questions, especially those with an undertone of hostility. You sound as if you've learned to handle it exceptionally well.
Mary, good that you finally learned that you don't owe anyone (especially a stranger) any explanation at all. None of your biz should work when you are hit with what is termed "blurters"...those who just let words run amok from their mouths without thinking first...because let's remember...........these people don't really care. People who make inane remarks about other peoples pregnancies (for example) will forget you and your answer within seconds......just enough time for the next person in their checkout line to show up with their shopping cart. Another good comeback line to questions that only deserve a short, courteous answer...CRAP HAPPENS.........smile and walk away.
good ideas esp for this OS crowd. "boundaries" are tricky concept in cyberspace that are still being worked out culturally. (the whole thing is so new). lots of "oversharing/TMI" on OS.
by the way, sometimes when a man says nothing is wrong, nothing really is wrong, wink.. that whole thing where you dont say what you feel, & expect others to drag it out, sometimes that a Yin kinda thing
some similar stuff in this post danger of cyber "rumination"..depression!! bloggers beware!!
It always amazes me that people think they have a right to know. Sometimes it's fun to tell them too much just to make them sorry they asked.

I do sometimes ask questions that seek private information, but they are usually put securely in "I know this is sensitive so if you'd really rather not say, then don't" terms. I'll ask if I can ask the question, and they are free to tell me no if they want. Because usually I'm not asking out of some morbid curiosity, but because I genuinely care about the person. I'd never ask that kind of highly personal question of a total stranger. That's just venal.
by the way, evo-psych explains human fascination with pregnancy, marriage, divorce. its a sort of barometer of collective human relations. look at all the tabloid magazines. whats on the cover? pregnancy, marriage, divorce. not really sure in what order. (it would be interesting to categorize). I would argue its hardwired deep into our brains to be fascinated with these areas in our own and others lives. it measures the dynamics & "health" of the overall human "organism."
If it is a stranger I find, "Who wants to know?" Pretty much throws them off.

Good post, I'm all for personal space, and now another retort in my arsenal!
"I'm not sharing that," is my way of saying, None of your business. As I get older I have far less trouble sharing when I want to, and not sharing when I don't.
Some people just do not have that social filter that keeps them from asking very personal questions or observation of total strangers. I respond one of two ways depending on if the person is socially inept or a busy body looking for dirt.

When stranger asks me a personal question, I respond with a polite "I am sorry that is a personal question and we do not know each other well enough." If that does the trick then nothing else needs to be said. If the person persists I found asking them a real personal question (that I know no person in their right mind would answer) jars them back into reality.

Trust me if someone asks you a personal question and you respond with "Do you ever have trouble with hemroids?" Or "Do you think its health to not change your underwear daily?" will result in no more questions. If they become indignant, I say "I'm sorry I thought we were sharing personal information, please forgive me for being so forward and rude."

If they do answer you are totally screwed because you are now having a conversation with a mentally ill person.
Excellent post. I adopted "Why do you ask?" many years ago, and it does work very very well. (If they keep going I'll repeat it with emphasis, "Again...Why do you ask?") But then I'm the opposite of you - I'm a private under-sharer. I've had to learn how to open up more vs. what you've had to learn. We each have our burdens!!
I'm a nosy person by nature... I love to know what's going on in someone's head, and 99% of the time I'm more than happy to yammer at length about what's going on in mine. That said, I couldn't image asking anyone outside of my close circle of friends questions like the ones in this post. I mean, really, where does common sense go?
I wrote a post about this very subject not too long ago. I learned these lessons a long time ago. I wish I would have been standing next to you when people pried. I would have had a field day. I hope these help:

http://open.salon.com/blog/cartouche/2009/05/02/20_answers_that_save_your_time_and_your_life

Rated for turning the corner!
patriciak: I think we come from very similar backgrounds where we were trained to overshare. If you spend a little more time with Landmark, they'll have you setting up boundaries left and right!

Roger/Chicago Guy: Thank you! I feel the same about you.

me e: Back in my born again days, I might have said something like that when I was going through all those pregnancies...like it was God's will but your version sounds so much better and more dramatic!

Just Cathy: Yup, you need to catch up to me.

aim: No kids? I'm sure you've had plenty of intrusive questions. People do seem awfully interested and you're damned if you do, and damned if you don't. I overpopulate and you aren't reproducing. No one is ever satisfied!

bobbott: Us "over-sharers" have much to learn...I'm still not sure I could actually say "none of your business" but there are so many great suggestions here...lots of good choices.

RickyB: I love this..."assumptions can be ruder than the vilest expletive." So true.

Mama Lou: You know you need some new boundaries when you are over-explaining to a 4 year old! I can relate.

Lisa: Do you think that women ask more personal questions than men? I don't want to get in some crazy gender war here, God knows there's been enough of that this week, but I do think that women may be asked these personal questions more often than men.

Patie001: You had the mother with the unbelievable response and I had my former mother-in-law who also chided me the 3rd time around for not being responsible enough with birth control. Geez. That's something I'd like to play back and answer differently. The work colleague "comment" was truly unbelievable. And I loved your response and the physical way in which you also let her know that that just wasn't okay. Pretty sure that was her projection big time, but still. I feel the same way about my 4th (well, all of them really...and also grateful for the the wonders of vasectomies)...she turned 21 recently and is a true delight. Thanks so much for your comment that could easily be a fantastic post, in and of itself.

Monsieur Chariot: What an enlightening and informative comment. It makes complete and total sense that those from large families experience this more. You're also right--it's no easy task to differentiate and individuate...it comes with a heavy price. Between coming from a large family and being entrenched in the "born again fundamentalism" for many years, it made it that much more challenging for me. But the relief and independence and personal freedom felt when anchoring oneself in one's voice is worth all of it. Thank you for your helpful comment.

1Woman'svu: I'm getting there but I would say, especially after reading Monsieur's comment, I still have a ways to go. Thanks for reading and for your comment.

lorimarie: You are one of my greatest teachers.

vzn: It is a delicate balance, especially when writing, on when it is TMI. Although I worked with an editor once who was constantly extolling me to be as naked as I could be, to be uncomfortably vulnerable in my writing. As for there not be anything wrong with the man, I think for the most part you are right. He's usually just fine. And if he's not, I'm learning it's his job to share if he wants to or not, and not mine. Thanks for the great comment.

Liz: You are the kind of person that would make it easy to tell anything to. And I believe when you frame your question, the question that is truly a question and not a demand, it gives the person the choice to say yes or no. Hope you're having a wild and crazy time with beautiful pretend farmer! I'm jealous.

vzn: Another excellent point by you. People are indeed fascinated by birth, death, divorce...any kind of major life change. And I think for some, perhaps many, these questions come from a place of wanting to make sure that they themselves are "normal". But still, just a little decorum would be preferred.

Buffy: I like that, "Who wants to know?" That is great.

Lea: I always love your wisdom and depth of experience. I like the simple and sweet nature of your short phrase. Another one for the toolbox.

M Todd: As usual, your comment is wonderful, thorough and provokes further thought. I had to smile when you brought up the hemorrhoid because boy do I have a story for you! But I'm learning here, because it really is none of your business. So this begs another question: How do we responsd when people tell us stuff that is really none of our business? I'd love to hear your thoughts on that.

Silkstone: You are right...it's the constant quest for balance isn't it...that elusive thing that I'm pretty sure I personally know no one that has actually achieved it! This is as good a place to practice as any.

jesslm: I feel the same way. I love people. I'm fascinated with people and I'm pretty good at drawing people out in ways that aren't offensive to them. But this took me a long time to learn. Thanks for commenting.

cartouche: That was a great post! I'm printing it out and keeping it in my purse...you wise woman you.

incandescent: You are very funny and I'm afraid I've answered them in precisely the way you describe...every extreme and gory detail. And you're right...it's easy to see the look of disgust on their face and slight panic looking for the nearest and quickest exit.

As for saying the thing about sex with the man, would have been a good thing to say at the time, but since I'm no longer with my then-husband, current husband might not appreciate!
Oh, and to the many people who ask me why I look so tired? Are you sick? It is because I am tired of you scrutinizing every circle and wrinkle on my face!
yakkygirl: Your comment made me laugh! To show you how shallow I can be, I got so tired of the "Are you TIRED?" questions that I went to the cosmetic doc and got the genetic bags under the eyes removed. And I will say, I've loved the results ever since, particularly because most of the time, I'm not tired! Now, if anyone notices the difference and asks me if I had anything done, I say, "Why do you ask?" (Ooops, I think I just over-shared...a work in process...)
Mary,

That is the down side of my approach. Some people like to share EVERYTHING. Since they can't take the hint I have found even the direct approach goes right over their heads as well. Thankfully I am blessed with a poor memory and the ability to delete things from my head. Just ask my wife she will tell you I don't remember anything.
M Todd: Thanks for writing again. Funny...you surely must be related to my husband...he doesn't remember a lot of things either...especially anything I tell him where there are a lot of details.
Geez, I sort of wish I had something to be private about... but if I did I would take a lesson learned here. I'd certainly say, "Why do you ask?" or the other suggestion, "what?" and then after repeated question, "what?" again, with no affect. If they ask a third time, then they would get (and deserve) the annoyed eye roll.
"Why do you ask?" is a good comeback in many circumstances.

However, in the instance of the cashier at the supermarket, the most appropriate response was "Can you please get your manager?" and then wait for them to do so. That person should not be employed in a customer-service (or at least customer-facing) position if they don't understand or can't display even the most basic manners.
"Why do you ask?" is a better reply to a rude question than, "Mind your own business", because it isn't rude. If the problem is rudeness, the solution is not more of it. The phoney question, "Whoa! How did you let that happen?", deserves a phoney answer, e.g., "I was abducted by aliens."
Well, since I've never been pregnant I am so very unqualified to comment on the subject. HOWEVER, when someone asks me an inappropriate nosey question I often find myself giving an answer that is as embarrassing for the questioner as I can make it - and as fun for me as possible. Sometime my answer is even true...........
I think you revealed just enough to get your point across and not an ounce more. Great post.
The answer to the "How did you let that happen?" question is "The Prophet had a vision of soul-lights coming into being, and that I was to be the vessel for His Holy Seed. I'm so very blessed. So very blessed to be bringing more soul-lights into being to serve The Prophet's kingdom." Do this in as blank a monotone as you can muster, with the unfocused crazy eyes.
Outstanding - at last, an excellent response to the questions I really don't want/shouldn't have to answer. Thanks, MaryT! :~)
You sound so much like me, Mary. Can't not tell the truth even when it's not necessary, and not in my best interests. I'm a reactor, and I like to talk. Maybe we should put our heads together and come up with some kind of self-help model!
You are so right about the lack of boundaries... some people love to invade our privacy, and we sometimes become invasive with those we love... my husband feels totally identified with your husband, by the way!
Excellent post. Thanks, Mary.
What is it with people thinking it's okay to pat a pregnant women on her stomach, anyway? What's up with *that*? (It used to piss Sami off something *fierce*.)
"the power of space" ... YES!!! YES!!! YES!!!
Around my house we use the shortened form "nunya." My youngest doesn't get it yet. She thinks "nunya" is some form of food. She repeatedly asks, "What are you eating?" We reply, "Nunya." She says, "I want some nunya."
Very helpful post!
I can really relate to this, marytkelly, although my tendency is more towards telling than asking, even though I’m genuinely curious about others, how they feel, think, decide, etc. My openness and over-sharing has often resulted in discomfort, shame, and sometimes misunderstanding when I only wanted to be understood. I wasn’t always this way; I think I was more introverted and silent before I went the path of therapies, growth groups, women’s circles, etc. In those venues, there seemed to be a judgment on me that if I didn’t tell all, then I was hiding something and was not fully participating (probably also mirroring my own self-judgment).

I’ve found that it’s good to be clear about the questioner’s intent. To someone who asked me a very personal question during one of my over-sharing episodes, I responded, “I realize I may have just said more than was appropriate, but are you honestly and respectfully interested in knowing my feelings on that, or are you just prying for something to add to your arsenal of gossip and judgment?”

I’m finding and strengthening my boundaries, and trying to do so with respect and honoring of myself and the other. Being humanly imperfect and “in progress” however, I have to admit my inclination would be to say to the cashier, “That question exposes your narrow-mindedness and prejudice and says so much more about you than it does about me. I don’t think it’s worthy of any further response.” Or more simply, “There’s not much of a gap between your ignorance and your flapping mouth, is there?”
WHat you're doing is calling their bluff. I love it. You are not sparing them the consequences of their own rude actions.
Hey, when do you get to Chicago?
Mary,

Thank God for Outlook. Every year I put all the important dates in my calendar. Anniversary, birthdays, etc. with reminders. Our greatest means of self preservation is our selective memory. Sure we can remember the specs of every car we have ever owned, the outcome of every major sports event, every off-color joke, the 3rd quarter sales figures from 2005 and the price of gas in 1976... but remember to put the trash out the night before pick-up or that we promised to clean out the gutters on Saturday, and pickup tickets for the ballet.... it's just a foggy blur in our simple little heads.
Nora: For me, hindsight is always 20/20 and back then, I spent some time thinking of the various brilliant retorts I coulda, shoulda, wish I said. Talking to the manager makes total sense, but it never occurred to me at the time, so busy at explaining myself I was!

adam: Abducted by aliens would have been perfect! Humor is such a great diffuser and deflecter.

artsfish: I can only imagine what your answers must be like. I might have to ask a nosey question of you just for the entertainment you will be sure to provide! Thanks for the smile.

Hells Bells: Thank you!

Leandra: This is another hysterical response and had I been sharp of wit in that moment, I would have loved to have used it. Even though my kids are in their 20's, I still get this question from time to time. I'm gonna use this one...thanks!

Owl: I'm sure I learned this response, "Why do you ask?" from someone else. I know I didn't come up with that one of my own.

emma: Excellent idea! A self-help model that will include visualizations of Stop Signs or hands covering the mouth...some kind of behavior modification program to start :)

Marcela: Thanks for the comment and glad your husband found some companionship with mine...I suspect there are a few out there.

Douglas: Yeah, what is up with that...like people that pet other peope's dogs without getting permission? I also got really tired of the women who would insist on telling me their horrific labor and delivery stores. Complete strangers in elevators telling me these stories, me standing there very pregnant, very terrified of labor...I hated those the most.

Ann...SPACE...the power and the elusiveness...

Phaedo: I read your fantastic list last night and was laughing out loud at each and every one of them. Hysterical! Truly priceless. Wouldn't it be fun to be that quick witted in the moment. Thanks for your list. A treasure in and of itself. And yes, Monsieur is a true gift and I feel honored to have been graced by his wisdom.

overworked: "Nunya"...I like it. You either guess what it means or get stopped in your tracks by bewilderment.

Mesmersi: Thank you!

sherieous: For some of us, the over-sharing under sharing is a constant balancing act. The over-sharing does bring on those feelings of shame and embarrassment. I've often walked away thinking, "I just said THAT!" As for your retorts to the cashier, I was much too kind to have ever said that, although a part of me relishes the thought! Thanks for your comment.

Jason: Great to see you! Alas, no trip to Chicago for me...another wedding in California took priority. Sorry to not be able to connect with you, and I'm sure, the squirrel is heaving a BIG sigh of relief!
Excellent post. I do not understand some people's inability to understand the utter privacy-invading inappropriateness of what they say. I have found a wordless glowering stare from under slightly-lowered eyebrows quite effective, a stare that continues long past the time anyone would find comfortable. (The impression I generally attempt to convey is, "I am serial killer, and trying to decide whether or not your liver might be a bit too chewy for sauteing.") For me, this eliminates the problem of having to return rudeness for rudeness.
My guess is that “Why do you ask?” would work…and work nicely in Bolder Colorado, Mary.

But here in New Jersey, we tend to be a bit more abrupt….and “Why do you ask?” would do little more than elicit a few titters from strangers listening in further back in the check out line.

I’d say for where I live…it’d be much more effective using something more along the lines of:

Nonea yer fuckin’ business, ya nosy muthafucka!

Although it would be perfectly acceptable in polite New Jersey society to leave off the final “nosy muthafucka!”
My experience is that people often lose their sense when confronted with pregnant woman. I got the, 'was it planned?' with my first child, too. What did they think I'm going to say, 'No, it's an accident, but we're trying to cope?' I always let them know it was rude, even though both my kids were carefully planned.

Then there's the 'when are you due?' Since mine were both overdue, and this question is asked of very pregnant woman, I got to cope with the horror on the faces when the answer was 'last week'. And, frankly, if I went into labor now, in the middle of your store, it would be a very good thing (and I'd get to the hospital in time, too)

And the 'Can I touch your belly?' I always squawked 'no' and stepped back sharply when asked that and some people were clueless enough to tell me it would give them good luck and look at me hopefully, Like, what's my problem that I don't want to be fondled by a total stranger?

The rest of my life, I've never had a problem with intrusive questions (except from my kids).
I learned this from a book and it always worked well - when someone asks a rude, intrusive question I say "What an extraordinary thing to ask!" and then laugh. That's it.
Very good post--I needed that advice badly. I will definitely be trying out the, "Why do you ask?" approach.
Floyd: Oh, the wordless glowering stare...that can be powerful. Some people need to learn these boundaries...like me, especially coming from a big family. When I went to college, I was in this girl's dorm room. I was casually looking through her books, picking them up, seeing what they were about. She told me in no uncertain terms that I was being rude and that her things were personal. I was mortified, but I also learned a good lesson right at the get go. The concept of "personal space" had just never been taught to me. Thanks for reading and commenting.

Frank: You are so sweet to come at my urging and make a comment. And you didn't disappoint. See, I am living vicariously through you and just once, would I like to be a New Jerseyean (is that what you're called?). Cause it just seems like it would be great fun to say, "nonea yer fuckin' business" even without the even more fun, "nosy muthafucka!"! Thanks for indulging me.

Malusinka: I love your humor! Yes, the "were they planned" questions as if somehow they would be less valuable if they hadn't been planned. I tell several of my children that they were very lucky they weren't planned, because if they had been, they wouldn't be! Touching the stomach was another intrusive move. Sounds like you have no problems establishing your boundaries. I've got something to learn from you. Thank you!

Sandra: Another great suggestion I hadn't thought of, although come to think of it, when I had lunch with my ex-husband's fiance years ago and one of the first questions I asked her was "Do you want to have children?" (so rude and none of my business!), she said, "Well, now there's a question!" Poor her. Didn't stop me at all and I pressed on until she finally told me she didn't want children. Come to think of it, there hasn't been another lunch since then and that was 6 years ago! Kicking myself.

Susan: Glad everyone could be of some help here. And I'm awaiting your next post that I'm quite sure you will do on word document first :)
Thanks, Mary. I share way too much about myself. Meet me in the grocery store and within 5 minutes, I'll share my birth stories with you. Thanks for giving me a polite but firm alternative to over-sharing.
I could not be that nice to anyone who talked to me like that. At the very least a very sharp "Excuse me?" is in order. If that doesn't work, just say "Mind your own business and check me out." Golly, people can be obnoxious!
I can't believe that those rude people would ask you if your kids are real:)
I think this is a wonderful post and also ironic that I came to it when it had 69 comments! hah! You can't get pregnant doing that - don't you know! I was also fertile to the max and used to joke that I could get pregnant just looking at a guy. Twins right out of the shoot at 24! Oh well. Thanks for you comment on my OS intro and also for the invitation to come back to Boulder sometime. You don't know how often I think about it. It will always be home and I miss it. Can't wait to read more of you. I hope my writing generates responses like yours someday!
Lisa, I'm not a fully recovered over-sharer by any means. It would be cool to meet you at the grocery store. We'd already be fast friends.

Phillyart: Another good method...temporary loss of hearing...

Roger F: Can you believe the gall?

OE: Thanks for reading. I appreciate that a lot.

Beth: Welcome to OS! I noticed the 69 rating as well. I hate odd numbers and 69 of all things...somebody please give me one more rating...I think you will be a great addition to the OS community. Hang in there, write and make friends. And, again, Boulder is always an open invitation.
Hyperbole always gives a subtle hint: "Yeah, I know, my husband, I can't keep him off me. He's got a Von Trapp family fetish, so I guess that makes me Julie Andrews. What do you think, do I look even a little like Julie?" Or, "Yes, we're getting divorced. It was either that or shoot him. He refuses to stay in his cage. Have you ever had that problem, and what did you do about it?" Even when they don't get it, they get something, and the stunned speechlessness allows you an escape. Your way is probably healthier, but not nearly as much fun! Great read!
This kind of intrusive questioning annoys the everlovin' out of me.

I'm afraid, that had I been in your shoes at the checkout, I would have *insisted*, at length, and at some volume, that the store manager be fetched.

Then the checkout girl could explain to her superior *why* she wanted to know intimate details in the life of a very heavily pregnant, obviously upset customer.

You would have found that customers are more valuable than mouthy button-pushers (which is what she sounds to be)

"What is it to do with you?" said with quiet aggression will work to stop intrusive/offensive question.