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Family, marital, and individual psychotherapist. Mother to four who no longer need my services but still enjoy my love as I do theirs. This is a good thing. I specialize in stepfamily dynamics and difficult transitions. I try to write from the heart with a sense of vulnerability, humor and a frank look at myself. Art shown: "Four Pots" by Lindsey Leavell

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FEBRUARY 11, 2011 12:37PM

Pat Conroy and Me

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To try to explain to you how huge the heart is of one of the most popular novelist of the twentieth/twenty-first century, Pat Conroy, it may help you know the story of Pat Conroy and me.

Conroy and his Southern peach of a wife, a noted author herself, live on an island near Beaufort, South Carolina.  My best friend and cohort in domestic crimes over the years, Lorraine, has a home on this same island and lives just down the street from the man who has been a literary god to me since I first picked up “The Prince of Tides”.  The book, a novel so moving, tragic, full of wit and innate understanding of the complex nature of what it means to be a human being, made me weep from beginning to end and I had to have it pried from my hands when it was time to say goodbye.

Three years ago, so desperate was I to meet this man whose way with words even God herself couldn’t begin to muster up, like any good westerner from a wild mountain state, I brazenly marched up to his home, despite the fake name that was emblazoned on his mailbox to ward off nut cases like me.

With “Prince of Tides” tucked under my arm and my good friend wearing dark sunglasses and opting to slink down low in her car, I knocked on his door and thus began a friendship that took even brass and bold me by surprise.

While he wasn’t home at the time, his wife, an expert at Southern hospitality welcomed me into their home and hours later, she called to ask if it would be ok if Pat and she could come over for a visit (you can read more about this here).  Needless to say, we said “sure” and when the phone hung up, you would have sworn we were mad and crazed tweenage girls who were anticipating the arrival of the latest teen heartthrob.

I spent last week once again in South Carolina to spend time with my dear friend and we contacted the Conroys to see if we could lure them once again to Lorraine’s home for an evening of words from the man that are so funny, heart warming and full of self-deprecation, you could publish his words and bow down at his feet.

Once again to our delight, they accepted.  I love Southern hospitality!

Another unforgettable evening was spent listening to the man who spoke of a past of an abusive father (“The Great Santini”), several marriages, an estranged daughter, and his eventual reconciliation with the father who could not, would not admit to his dying day he had ever laid a hand on his wife and children.

Conroy had spent the day working on his new book, “The Death of Santini” and by the time he arrived he admitted to being tired and spent.  The book is a balance beam of sorts.  It tells of the difficulty Conroy’s father had when “The Great Santini” came out and he liked to joke to people at book signings that he hoped they would “enjoy his son’s work of fiction”. 

Despite Donald Conroy’s best attempts to shrug off the painful truths contained in the pages of “The Great Santini”, a transformation unfolded and although he never found the courage to admit his actions, he melted into his later years and became a grandfather that anyone would envy and long to have.

For this reason, Pat Conroy says, “’ He was the worst father I ever saw in my life, and I do not back off that. But he hated my portrait of him, and he was good enough to change. I owe him that, to talk about the change.” His book, “The Death of Santini”, due to come out next year, is a compassionate tribute and acknowledgement of the changes his father made; changes that teach all of us that we are neither entirely all good nor all bad.  We all have our shadow sides, the dark sides that betray even us.

Conroy’s act of exposing his family dysfunction is an act of bravery that must be distinguished from the “tell all” reality shows that require nothing but desperation, a grandiose sense of self and ironically, a bottomless lack of self-esteem.

Conroy’s bravery has nothing to do with what he writes about; it’s about what he goes through to invite us into his world, a world he knows is sadly understood by many.  He shared that conjuring up the painful memories made him feel like running like a “seared dog out of a blaze of fire”. I could see the sorrow relived in his eyes diluted with his grand sense of humor and ability to poke fun at himself.

The world is a better place because of Pat Conroy, who not only shows us what it takes to be a writer, but to be a better human being.

After a series of big teddy bear hugs from him, I reluctantly said goodbye and silently whispered a prayer of gratitude to the man whose words light up the dark paths into the secrets of my own heart.

And my one wish for him is for all good things to come to him, as I think of his dedication in his most recent book, “My Reading Life”:

This book is dedicated to my lost daughter, Susannah Ansley Conroy.  Know this:  I love you with my heart and always will. Your return to my life would be one of the happiest moments I could imagine.”

Surely the gods could figure out a way to make this happen.  The heart of Pat Conroy deserves it.

 

Pat Conroy and Me

Pat Conroy and Me

 Pat Conroy and Cassandra Conroy

  Pat Conroy and his Southern peach of a wife, Cassandra King Conroy

 


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Wonderful reverie -- it's high time you told this story -- and sounds like you had a high time, too
For the record, my raterator ain't a-workin' anymore
Yes, my "evil twin", (Pat's affectionate words) Mary and I were, once again treated to an evening with a sincere and most gracious couple. It is easy to defer to Mr. Conroy when he let's you into his personal inner sanctum, gather his words and piece together some of his life and experiences. One can never tire of his tales coupled with his sense of humor. Fingers crossed for another visit from Mary + dinner with the Conroys.
Lovely insider view of a successful author and man. I can feel the warmth from both of you. Congrats to a peach of an OSer.
What a wonderful story, Mary...xox
I love this guys writings and have forever. I didn't know about the new book but I will be first in line, (second behind you) to get it. The Great Santini hit home to me on many levels. Great Post!
So glad you wrote about this, Mary. As you know, he's one of my faves too. My autographed Prince of Tides that I received after interviewing him once remains one of my most prized possessions. He just gets it.
He's a wonderful story teller, and those stories that are based on his own life experiences are his strongest. I'll look forward to his take on 'Santini' now, in comparison with his writings of him from a younger man's perspective. Thanks for sharing this Mary - I hope he didn't mind!
I felt like you passed on a little bit of his big bear hug...thanks!
one of my favorite authors! thank you for writing this.
How excellent - and what a marvelous glimpse into the man behind the words . . .
I was so excited to read this Mary. You know how I feel. (Besides jealous, of course). I'm going to need your phone number and itinerary for your next trip to S.C....just sayin'
Wow. This just sings. Put me in line for that book as well!
Mary, the Gods are certainly shining on you! What a lucky moment that you have shared!!!
Thank you for sharing and I'm trying hard not to be jealous here!
So happy for you, and so JEALOUS I could spit. How's that for southern?

Am dying to hear more.
What a great story! Hi Mary : )
thanks for filling us in on the story, mary. i've long been a fan of conroy's. glad to know he's a good guy in real life as well as an excellent writer. lucky you. but that's how the south is, dontcha know? ;;
A quick comment here before my next client arrives.

Gabby Abby and anyone else wondering if he would mind what I shared in this post. The only details of the dinner I shared are things he has also shared on interviews and public media events. I googled everything to make sure I didn't share anything that he has not already shared with the general public. Were there other conversations shared between the four of us? Yes and those will remain between the four of us. I'm glad you asked the question.
Sweet! I'm so glad you shared this with us, and your time with him. It has to be a joy to connect with this lovely man.
"To try to explain to you how huge the heart is of one of the most popular novelist of the twentieth/twenty-first century, Pat Conroy, it may help you know the story of Pat Conroy and me."

Actually, the "me" part of your tale doesn't explain anything. I love Conroy's books, but this tale seems exploitive (especially given your family therapy gig). That is, it seems to be about you, not about Mr. Conroy's heart. Glad you met Mr. Conroy. Give me some insight into him, or his books. I'm thinking, this is not much more than, "Hey, look, I met a famous guy."

Not trying to be disputatious, but I'm really struggling to find the story here.
Mary, life is good, huh? I am so thrilled for you. Mr. Conroy is one of my favorite authors and my admiration for not only his skill but for the stories he has to tell, is boundless. It seems somehow right that you've had the pleasure of his company (and his lovely Mrs. as well). FTW, I got plenty of insight -- as much as probably you could ethically share -- into PC from this. It is a happy thing.

Oh, by the way, you are another of my favorite writers. ;)
So happy you all got to get together again! I'm pea green with envy and bright orange with pleasure! Wonderful recap of your times with Pat Conroy and his life and times. I know what he means to you. He doesn't look as tough as I thought he would. Beautiful tribute to this writer. R and oxoxoxo
:::bowing down to you:::one of my absolute favorite writers. So glad to hear about the upcoming book. I'm currently reading South of Broad. His writing always broadens my vocabulary. Such special memories for you!
Oh my goodness, Mary! What a great story this is. Love the pictures too~r
After re-reading this twice, carefully, I withdraw my previous snarly comment. The first time around I read something into it that is not there. It's a very nice story.
Tom, I remember the talk you and I had a couple of years ago about our shared love of the writings of Pat Conroy. Meeting him in person twice now has been more than an unexpected thrill. He truly is a genius with words, but his heart for others is even greater. Unusual I think for most successful writers. Thanks for reading (and trying to rate).

Lorimarie: You were there, you know what I'm talking about.

Lea: Thank you! What's been so nice about this is that there are plenty of writers and others I admire, but you don't really know if they are good human beings. A joy to know that Pat Conroy, who smears his heart all over every page he writes, is as wonderful in "real life".

Robin: Hey, Robin! Haven't been on OS much and it always makes me smile when I see you. Thank you. And Happy Valentines Day.

scanner: Thank you! As huge a fan I am of Pat Conroy's, I've never read "The Great Santini". I'm reading it now and just in the beginning, but I can already see what a great book it is. Have you read, "My Reading Life"? It inspires on so many levels. Like you, I'm very much looking forward to "Death of Santini" and again, I appreciate Conroy's huge heart in writing it.

emma: I do know that about you! And how wonderful you were able to interview him. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about!

Gabby: I hope you read my comment I made yesterday. There were many things shared that night, but I only shared what he had mentioned in interviews. And you're right, the stories based on his own life are the most powerful. Thank you for reading and commenting.

mamoore: Hi! Thanks for reading. And he truly is a big teddy bear kind of guy.

Chuck: Oh, you too! Have you read, "My Reading Life"...part memoir and for me, inspires me to spend as much time as I can reading and reading. So many wonderful books to read. We need more time. Thank you.

Owl: Thank you!

trilogy: Oh, thanks for reading and enjoying and living vicariously through me. I'm still pinching myself.

Chicago Guy: Hi Roger! Well, there's a few of us who will be waiting in line!

lady: Yes, I feel that way many times. Life has so many magical moments when we try to stay open enough to see them. And hey, if you wrote this, I would be extremely jealous and make no bones about it! Thank you.

knightwriter: Good Southern spit! We'll talk...

trig: Hi trig! Thank you!

femme forte: Like you, I was more than please to see what a wonderful person he is in real life, cuz you just never know. And the South, there's a lot we could learn about the graciousness and kindness I witness on a constant basis every time I visit there. Thank you.

LC Neal: Yes, I love how you said this, "I love this man with a reverence bordering on pathological." This is EXACTLY how I feel. Damn, I love your whole comment...great writing, "his stories slide over my exile's heart like honey". Your good. Lorraine and I had a great meal in charming downtown Charleston. It's a whole another world.

C Berg: Thanks for reading, and yes it was pure joy. I also want to say his wife, who is just the perfect compliment to him, she's so calming and gracious...just a treat to spend an evening with the two of them.

TheBadScot: As I said to you in my PM, I think I could have done a better job with this story. Given an extremely busy life, I gave it the best shot I could with the time I had. My husband had actually told me he had trouble with the first line of the post. I appreciate you giving it a second chance.

AJ: Thank you. You always have such kind things to say. And as I said in a couple of comments, I only shared what Pat Conroy has already shared publicly. One has to tread ever so carefully. And so I'll ask you too. Have you read, "My Reading Life"...I'm halfway through and loving it. And thank you for your good compliment AJ. It's truly appreciated.

Joan: Pat Conroy tough? That man doesn't have a tough bone, line, wrinkle, anything in his body. A good good man.

lschmoopie: I'm loving my Kindle since I'm finding that when I read him, the dictionary tool is more than necessary! Thank you.

Joan H: Thanks for reading! I hope you're feeling better!

The BadScot: I thank you for giving it a second chance. I really do,and for having the graciousness to say so.
Loveliest post I've read in a while.
Great story. He doesn't look anything like I imagined.
I resisted coming over here until I could resist no more. My jealousy is killing me!

While I've read critics who do not agree, The Prince of Tides is one of the greatest books ever written. I've read it twice and I never do that.

The Great Santini and My Losing Season? Painful, powerful and moving. Loved this post.
What a warm, wonderful and insightful story to share with OS readers. Thank you.
What a lovely couple.
What a wonderful experience/s.
What a great story.
What a sweetheart of a sister.
Hope I'm with you next time!
Susanne: Why thank you so much for reading!

grif: Thank you for reading. Pat Conroy is a real big teddy bear of a man, inside and out.

Major Mojo: I understand the jealousy I really do. I'm almost jealous of myself! I agree with you about "The Prince of Tides"...probably my most favorite book of all time. Have you read, "Soldier of The Great War" by Mark Helprin? That's right up there. Helprin and Conroy are friends and colleagues. And both have written magnificent novels. I'm reading "The Great Santini" now...cannot even begin I've never read it. WTH? I'm only on Chapter 3 and my heart has been breaking since I started reading the first page. Thanks so much for forcing yourself over here.

Susan: Thank you very much for reading and I'm glad you enjoyed.

JC: Looks like Lorraine will be there for awhile. A spring trip would be spectacular.
I've never read or watched The Great Santini because I knew it would hit too close to home. In the case of my family, my father was very surprised to learn that almost all of his eight kids could live just fine without him and won't accept anything less than an apology for the way he acted. It might be interesting that my parents met John Irving when taking the youngest of my brothers on a wrestling recruiting trip. It turned out that wrestling was as big for the real-life Irving family as it was for the fictional Garp.
I was quite taken with his book, 'The Lords of Discipline.' I think it was less popular than deserved due to the nuance.