There are messages in my PM inbox this morning from people whose names I recognize. Haven't read them yet, but from notes I received yesterday, most offering support, I know a few of the new ones will do the same. Others, I suspect, are wondering why I haven't addressed the accusations made against me in recent days.
Before I read any of the messages that came in since I went to bed last nite, I'm writing this, which shall serve as my only comment on the current flare-up of a guerrilla war of words that's been hissing and spitting on and off since I started here Jan. 1, 2010. Many of the players who no longer appear regularly here since those earlier days often show up for the verbal fisticuffs. Their familiar avatars can be found peeking out of the woods and even taking an occasional potshot or two before ducking back behind cover.
Some of you may have noticed and found it odd that while this most recent renewal of hostilities started over the serious issue of anti-Semitism, it soon evolved into the silly seriousness of multiple identities on OS, with accusers expressing shock that such an unthinkable travesty should be found in this pristine writers' community. So-called “sock puppets” used by some to take cheap shots at “real” people and to – heaven forbid – inflate their own ratings to make it appear their written or graphic offerings are more popular than they really are or should be? OMG, it is to gasp, pat the breast and fan the passion-fired face.
Of course, we know what this is really all about. We know it comes down to one of the au currant issues even Open Salon has picked up as a cause célèbre: It comes down, in this enlightened, largely liberal, extraordinarily tolerant community of extraordinarily informed people to perhaps the basic issue of hominid social interaction, which starts in schoolyards everywhere and unfortunately tends to remain in the egos of our inner brats the rest of our days. This would be bullying.
That's all I have to say about that. What I offer you now is a link to a post wherein resides the genesis of most of what we've seen in this “dustup” of the past couple of days. You've already seen part of it. You've seen certain comments selected from the quite heated discussion the post engendered. Now, please look at the entire enchilada. Check out the brief original post before you wade into the scolding, slapping and mud wrestling that follows. Watch how the discussion develops. Note the key participants. I'm not proud of my contributions. There aren't many in that comment thread who should be proud of their contributions. There are some. There's the usual separation into sides that might strike onlookers as apparent bad guys on the one side, would-be good guys on the other and then the occasional troll and the clueless, the latter being those who stumble into a crossfire perhaps with good intentions but without a synopsis or a list of characters.
Lest I forget, there are also most often a victim and a bully. The victim should be easy to spot, the bully perhaps less so. I'll let you find them. A more lucid title for my post would be “Find the Bully,” I picked the one I did because “candy ass” was a derogatory term drill sergeants used on recruits when I joined the Army. I'm sure some of you are thinking my erstwhile silence in the face of the accusations against me is an indication that I meet the definition of that juvenile slur. Plus, the word “bully” has been used here ad nauseam. I figured “candy ass” would get me more hits.
I'm leaving comments open for any who wish to continue this discussion. I don't intend to participate. Probly won't even read them. I have better uses for my time.
OK then, deep breath, on your marks, get set, FIND THE BULLY!
[click on the highlighted words to reach the post]


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m-f-er who ever lived, I often feel. I eschew controversy
for many deep psychological reasons. But! When anyone
denigrates such a fine decent loving soul as you,
my spiritual father, i gotta say, i
uh, must take action!
antisemitism is so f-ing boring to address, tho.
i would rather stand by your side, old man, with a sword.
to stick anyone who defames you.
as for your new avatar, i like it. much.
RATED!!!!!!
Sorry, pal. That's an old tactic and it's not working.
And for all of you sorry ass dipshits that dare to support abusive liars and cheats: When you next look in the mirror a disgusting person will be looking back at you.
Instead of deflectin' the criticisms and now championin' another cause (online "bullying"), friggin' admit your mistake and tell OSers that you will ask OS management to delete your rate-only/flame-only alters.
You can even keep Chicken Man, because that's probably a good online persona for you.
(I would've PM'ed this but, as you've pointed out, you're not reading PMs at this time.)
It was not about a single comment on Catherine's blog, it was about an escalation of abusive behavior hidden behind a series of identities over a long period of time. You don't want to admit it?
Fine. But you still own it, fella. And even though I know you don't give a flying shit as to my opinion of you, I'm still not giving you a pass on this.
You owe everyone here an apology, but even that isn't enough considering what you did.
You own this, Matt. You have since you started down that path. Ironic, isn't it, that the whole thing came about because of your rush to out Fusun's many alternate IDs. I guess it really does take a thief...
By "being mean" you were apparently referring to me saying something in a comment elsewhere about how I thought it was impossible for Linda to read, rate, and leave HUGZ at something like a post per minute. I said that it seemed to me Linda was engaged in hardcore fuckmuppetry... that is, tit for tat rates and comments- great way to boost them ratings and damn it sure worked well for Linda didn't it. Guess she didn't think of making up dozens of alters to rate herself so chose fuckmuppetry instead.
Yeah yeah, so I said in public, under MY OWN AVATAR what dozens of others were saying 'behind the scenes.'
For that I was excoriated and crucified by many, yourself included as it turns out.
Note: didn't call her a drunk, or a slut, or anything else besides exactly what I said ^above^ and I'm guessing you'll understand why I capitalized those three words.
kind of glad i missed this one. The reason we don't talk about "Fight Club" is because it's BORING
Speaking as someone who joined OS mainly to have a place where I could trade invective with "liberals" without hurting anyone's feelings ( if you trade invective on OS, you are doing so with people who care nothing about your feelings, so by definition have no feelings to hurt. )
The people who are worth talking to here, are past both insults and hurt feelings, and are actually able to engage in civil discourse on emotional topics- I came here to play football, but the marching band refused to yield, so hey, I like marching bands too.
I've seen too many thoughtful and sensitive people driven from OS by these "little Dust Ups" MY standard reply to "Hate Speech" is FOAD. ( My reply to people who accuse me of "Hate Speech" is the same)
Always remember "What Would Bugs Bunny Do?"
but..(see alysa's comment)
THE QUEEN HAS SPOKEN.
now i gotta gather up scattered remnants of a king.
a father? a brother? a son?
all neither both and
whatever.
emerson, a good american father, said,
on the doorpost,
write "WHIM"/
shit that backfired over a few hundred yrs.
as did his self reliance.
and wm james' pragmatism.
i say, be
pragmatically self reliant, knowing that your self so called
doesnt end at your skinbag's borders.
it is universal, this self.
It is a bit strange writing this, because you indicate that you probably won't read it. But judging from the response to your post so far, perhaps someone will.
The allegation against you that seems to carry the most weight with the people here is that you created alternate identities which you used to attack the contributions of other OSers. Is that true? If it is, then you have behaved in a mean-spirited, cowardly fashion, and have been properly attacked for it -- in some cases, ironically, by OSers whose true identity cannot be discerned.
The other beef -- that you may have used your alters to pump up the ratings totals on your posts -- seems trivial by comparison. It is snaky behavior, and not surprising for someone who attacks people anonymously, but I don't see that it makes much difference. I have found that no matter how many or how few ratings my own posts receive, I wind up neither richer nor poorer. It makes me feel good when people like my posts, but it doesn't seem to matter in the greater scheme of things.
Despite everything, I would guess that you still have a contribution to make to this site. Your best stuff is well worth reading.
But you obviously must do some sort of penance if you are to be taken seriously once again on Open Salon.
My suggestion: That you publish a list of all the alters that you have used to attack other OSers -- if indeed you have -- and encourage the people on whose posts they appear to delete them, or call attention to them in some way that they deem appropriate.
We cannot make you *see*.
Believe what you want to believe - but the truth is still the truth and eventually the truth will out. As it has this week. Funny how silent Matt and Fusun have been on the allegations made. Wonder why? Maybe a preponderance of evidence that pretty much prevents denial?
Nah. Couldn't possibly be. Since they've been so "nice and generous" to you.
Well, have a good time snug in your belief system. I actually find it interesting that there are so many people who, when faced with evidence to the contrary of their "beliefs", still want to violently cling to those beliefs.
Matt - you will return with yet another new avatar and voice and eventually will once again get caught in your own web of lies. It's classic behavior well-known in the clinical psych field. And we all know that you are reading every comment that is posted here. You simply can't make a point and really let it go because of your insatiable need to keep things stirred up. Kind of like the criminal who visits the crime scene shortly after the deed is done. You can't stop!!!
Carry on Matt as you will and have a most pleasant afternoon. And do consider getting some professional help.
That's not what I see here.
This saddens me more than you know. You see, I thought this was a place for writers to ply their trade/love...the written word. This whole mess makes me wonder what the hell I'm doing still here.
Do what you will, but this entry certainly solidifies my own opinion.
indecency and whatnot /
or whatever bad things u do,
that i am unaware of,
is coming my way tomorrow.
daddyOh.
to broaden it to alter our ego
is strange and sad
to act like a child
when what is needed is a man
who owns his behavior, good or bad,
is not what I see here
In your new picture, you appear to simmer with rage and righteous hate. It’s like that image of Hannibal Lecter in Silence of the Lambs. How many shots did you take of yourself before you got that just so? Well, it worked. I’m going to have a hard time unseeing that.
And Rush Limbaugh. I’m scared of him too. Volatile. Insane. I’d cross the street if he was walking towards me. That’s an illustration by a well known and successful commercial illustrator by the way, Donkey Hotey, and a copyright violation. You might want to credit him and provide a link to his website. His work is published regularly in glossy expensive mags like Esquire and Fortune, in case they commissioned that image. You might want to check to be sure. A big scary man probably wouldn’t be afraid of them though, or a wussy artist named Donkey Hotey. That guy isn’t even using his real name.
One last thought before I go. In the years I’ve had to hang out in a nursing home, I’ve discovered a certain sort of sad man, too many of them. Not sitting surrounded by women, like the men who love women, but in pee stained pants, alone, staring out a window, or watching their television. When wheeling my mom into the dining room for a meal, they’d always be sitting alone. I’d try to connect, say hi, ask if they might like to eat with Mom and me, how was the pudding tonight. Typically I’d receive an answering glare, much like the one in your new photo.
this said to your supporters as well...
okey dokey then. i think we all(other than the blindly obtuse) get the picture here.
chuck's comment is perfect
"to act like a child
when what is needed is a man"
The evidence Candice is citing is coming from Statcounter and I think Candance needs to contact their administrator to understand (as she certainly won't take my word for it), but Statcounter only shows the last "ping," meaning the last server the isp went through before it hit OS.
That in NO WAY means it originated with that isp. You need much more sophisticated software to actually trace an isp to the originating city.
Even then, that does not prove whose hands were on the keyboard.
There is Matt and there is Chicken Man. Chicken Man is for his fiction. And would somebody please tell Trig that no one is obligated to come over to his blog, and that he does not have the right to go to others blog and plant his bullshit and then cry like the bully baby he is when others delete him.
The king of false identities cries the loudest, him and his baby brother who does what ever his big bad bully brother tells him too.
You've all showed your true colors to the new editor. Anybody think about that? He now knows who comes to OS to write, and who comes to fight.
Now which group do YOU think he'll spend his time reading?
Bahahahahahahaha!
Your words on IP tracking are from experience, are they not? Shall I go dig out the PM you sent me accusing me of "hacking" into your account, complete with direct threats to have me taken into custody by the Kansas Bureau of Investigation?
Was a fine day for you wasn't it, when I posted your verbatim mail for all to see what a paranoic ditz you truly are.
You know my name, as does everyone else around here that is interested, so you can just save the tired "king of false identities" crapola.
Let me guess.. Matt was nice to you too? Lucky you, or so it seems. Good thing you didn't get on his wrong side. With the way you type, he'd have been calling you all kind of drunken and drug addicted to add to your obvious main descriptor-- DELUSIONAL.
Do you really think I care what cute little schoolboy Jake reads, or not? Let me know and if the answer is yes, I'll get back with you on a separate reply.
@Sirenita... I'm going with POOR READING SKILLS.
READ Kate. Try it before you spout next time so you don't come off as such an idiot.
Face planted your bike lately much (speaking of editors... that piece of shit post was on the cover, wasn't it, even though they were trying to feature another one)? Yeah, I respect our editors.
~~*~~
Best, tr ig
I feel like an effin pig at a trough. Not comin' up for air for a while.
It may be that you consider multiple personalities created for the purpose of sneak attacks or self-aggrandizement to be of no consequence. Say so, and be done with it.
The offense as defense is not honorable. Nope.
Matt Paust
AUGUST 12, 2012 10:22 PM"
Matt, from all the women you've abused on OS, let me just say, fuck off you sick, misogynistic, passive aggresive old fuck.
It is possible to overdo this.
See: John 8:7
What you are really saying as that we women should suffer in silence and respect you men. Isn't that what you are really saying?
Second, are you somehow equating a sharp comment from someone with a genuine grievance to the use of alters to stalk and attack women? You started out being reasonable in your early comments. Did that hurt or something?
Why are you even addressing Eff, of all people? Lots of us have had something to say. You claim you were a newspaper man. What do you do when you're new to a story? You ask questions, you don't lecture the principals.
Go back, read Candace's post again, follow the links, look at the screen shots she posted of the Candy Ass blog. Then come back and say with a straight face that no one dare speak up to Matt.
Sirenita: I have read all the evidence, as carefully as anyone, and it makes a strong prima facie case that he has been a bad dude. But please read what I said to Eff in the preceding paragraph. And the Bible citation is that silly line about "Let he who is without sin..."
You know nothing about my attitude toward women. You are just picking that cliched arrow from your quiver because you know it will play well here.
"I use Statcounter, a program that allows me to put a piece of invisible html code in my posts on OS. When someone clicks on it, their computer leaves behind (usually, but there are a few exceptions – the explanation is technical and irrelevant here) an identifier, the IP address. Many people here on OS use it. Thus, I knew the IP address of the Main (because he had left me plenty of comments before last year), but he was careful only to leave the nasty comments about me only on blogs that belonged to people who were his sycophants, never on blogs controlled by the two people I had confided in; therefore, I never had IP proof. If I had ever been able to match the IP addresses of the Main and his alters, I would have sent the information to OS management (who I had alerted and discussed this with), and all this man’s blogs here would have been removed. "
Everybody knows your name Steve Trig Barber because of your harrassing Linda S off the blog, and now you say "oh, I only pointed out her rating everybody" bla bla bla like an innocent fucking sheep.
You wrote post after post after post, calling her a blog whore, and that is rich, you are the biggest blog whore here.
And yes, I do remember my email. I also have my own statcounter data, plus.
Asia, I hope you had your shots, and everyone is sick to death of hearing about you and trig fucking.
EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
barf bag
That isn't gonna fly stalker, like assault, there is no defense for cyber harassment or stalking of which you are both, people don't say anything because they don't want you and your gang coming over like you did her just to shit on someone's blog.
What she had and I had was OS's own activity records, which allow you to see who rates and comments on what, and do some cross-referencing. Some of those records can be altered by the user, some cannot. The front page "recent" tab data cannot be altered by the user. Candace's explanation is quite clear. Maybe if you give it one more shot you might get it.
Asia never mentioned fucking trig. Another example of either stupid or intentional misreprentation. She made a joke about your obsession with him and laughed at you. I join her hilarity.
Arthur, when someone called me a whore on your blog, you said you'd like directions to my house. That grossly insulting statment told me that you neither respect women as equals nor have an ounce of old-fashioned chivalry. I got a crash course in your attitude toward women.
John 8:7
"Here is a few stats for you. You and Nana hitting my Tibet blog 48 times in 60 minutes. That's called cyber stalking, to which there is no defense. Whacha gonna tell the judge, 'Oh, she was a bitch, she deserved it.' "
Please link me to the US Code section that defines a lot of views on a page as cyberstalking, or any criminal statute for which there is no defense. I'll dust off the old law degree and tell you what the law really says. While you're looking for it, why not apply for a restraining order, since you're being horribly victimized. You like scripts, here's one for you: "Your honor, they looked at my blog *a lot*-- I think, anyway, since stat counter is a tad unreliable. I demand protection from, uh, their clicking on my page." The judge sighs. Days like this, he wishes he stashed a bottle under his bench.
"Here is a few stats for you. You and Nana hitting my Tibet blog 48 times in 60 minutes. That's called cyber stalking, to which there is no defense. Whacha gonna tell the judge, 'Oh, she was a bitch, she deserved it.' "
Please link me to the US Code section that defines a lot of views on a page as cyberstalking, or any criminal statute for which there is no defense. I'll dust off the old law degree and tell you what the law really says. While you're looking for it, why not apply for a restraining order, since you're being horribly victimized. You like scripts, here's one for you: "Your honor, they looked at my blog *a lot*-- I think, anyway, since stat counter is a tad unreliable. I demand protection from, uh, their clicking on my page." The judge sighs. Days like this, he wishes he stashed a bottle under his bench.
"Here is a few stats for you. You and Nana hitting my Tibet blog 48 times in 60 minutes. That's called cyber stalking, to which there is no defense. Whacha gonna tell the judge, 'Oh, she was a bitch, she deserved it.' "
Please link me to the US Code section that defines a lot of views on a page as cyberstalking, or any criminal statute for which there is no defense. I'll dust off the old law degree and tell you what the law really says. While you're looking for it, why not apply for a restraining order, since you're being horribly victimized. You like scripts, here's one for you: "Your honor, they looked at my blog *a lot*-- I think, anyway, since stat counter is a tad unreliable. I demand protection from, uh, their clicking on my page." The judge sighs. Days like this, he wishes he stashed a bottle under his bench.
"Here is a few stats for you. You and Nana hitting my Tibet blog 48 times in 60 minutes. That's called cyber stalking, to which there is no defense. Whacha gonna tell the judge, 'Oh, she was a bitch, she deserved it.' "
Please link me to the US Code section that defines a lot of views on a page as cyberstalking, or any criminal statute for which there is no defense. I'll dust off the old law degree and tell you what the law really says. While you're looking for it, why not apply for a restraining order, since you're being horribly victimized. You like scripts, here's one for you: "Your honor, they looked at my blog *a lot*-- I think, anyway, since stat counter is a tad unreliable. I demand protection from, uh, their clicking on my page." The judge sighs. Days like this, he wishes he stashed a bottle under his bench.
"Here is a few stats for you. You and Nana hitting my Tibet blog 48 times in 60 minutes. That's called cyber stalking, to which there is no defense. Whacha gonna tell the judge, 'Oh, she was a bitch, she deserved it.' "
Please link me to the US Code section that defines a lot of views on a page as cyberstalking, or any criminal statute for which there is no defense. I'll dust off the old law degree and tell you what the law really says. While you're looking for it, why not apply for a restraining order, since you're being horribly victimized. You like scripts, here's one for you: "Your honor, they looked at my blog *a lot*-- I think, anyway, since stat counter is a tad unreliable. I demand protection from, uh, their clicking on my page." The judge sighs. Days like this, he wishes he stashed a bottle under his bench.
"Here is a few stats for you. You and Nana hitting my Tibet blog 48 times in 60 minutes. That's called cyber stalking, to which there is no defense. Whacha gonna tell the judge, 'Oh, she was a bitch, she deserved it.' "
Please link me to the US Code section that defines a lot of views on a page as cyberstalking, or any criminal statute for which there is no defense. I'll dust off the old law degree and tell you what the law really says. While you're looking for it, why not apply for a restraining order, since you're being horribly victimized. You like scripts, here's one for you: "Your honor, they looked at my blog *a lot*-- I think, anyway, since stat counter is a tad unreliable. I demand protection from, uh, their clicking on my page." The judge sighs. Days like this, he wishes he stashed a bottle under his bench.
"Here is a few stats for you. You and Nana hitting my Tibet blog 48 times in 60 minutes. That's called cyber stalking, to which there is no defense. Whacha gonna tell the judge, 'Oh, she was a bitch, she deserved it.' "
Please link me to the US Code section that defines a lot of views on a page as cyberstalking, or any criminal statute for which there is no defense. I'll dust off the old law degree and tell you what the law really says. While you're looking for it, why not apply for a restraining order, since you're being horribly victimized. You like scripts, here's one for you: "Your honor, they looked at my blog *a lot*-- I think, anyway, since stat counter is a tad unreliable. I demand protection from, uh, their clicking on my page." The judge sighs. Days like this, he wishes he stashed a bottle under his bench.
You're trig talk is just boring and tedious... Yawn.
You put your money on the wrong horse in this self righteous race. Time to give it up and get a life.
And Paust, I'm sure your having a blast, perhaps a last blast, reading these comments. You've always been considerate towards me and I appreciate it. But I must take into account the rest if the story and wonder why you've taken this stance and not either come clean or apologized. None of us is all bad nor all good. And forgiveness is within reach if you would ask.
and again:
"...let him who is without sin cast the first stone..."
spoken by one of the wisest men in history.
John 8:7
One rating for you,Matt,for your integrity regardless of what
a few have the nerve to say to you.
Some, in lack of phantasy or courage, live by the premise to do in Rome as the Romans do.(...mit den Wölfen heulen/to howl with the wolves)
Sirenita, It is comforting to know that as long as you are here, I will never be lonely. And let me make it clear: I am speaking in virtual terms!
People who are familiar with the struggle of speaking a language other than their mother tongue will go into the effort of reading and comprehensing words that have been thought and written in a non-common tongue(and from there transfered into English).Knowing that this person is highly educated and sophisticated,I owe her highest respect for surmounting the language barrier.People who speak their mother tongue at an advanced level,take longer to adjust to a new language out of pure embarressment for perhaps failing the Oxford Test.
Tolerance toward the unusual sentence structure and choice of words
are a chance for anyone to broaden his/her horizon.
It is trite to hide behind your womanhood, and accuse everyone who disagrees with you about anything of being anti-woman. Trite and cheap. I would never call you a whore; that seems to be your own formulation. I think women, by and large, are wonderful, but I might be willing to make an exception in your case.
Please continue, it adds value to the OS Brand.
Sadly, this thread is now about Arthur and me. Art, what say we return folks to their regular programming. Or, if you wish, have the last word, and we can continue any discussion among us in PM.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it
You don't scare anyone. You need to wash your mouth out with soap.
As for leaving OS, I was a member long before you arrived, and I'll be here after you're gone. I don't flame: I respond to accusations. And by the way, the fictional emma peel was not a prosecutor so you got that wrong, too. Now leave already!
Kate, I'd rather have some of what you're smoking. What you quoted is not a law. The law you want will begin "USC Section..." You're quoting wikipedia or some website. How lame is that.
Still, where in that paragraph does it say that people can't click on your blog, which you post for the public to look at? If you weren't such an idiot, I might explain that if you claim to know that someone clicks on your blog because you enable a special tool to capture those clicks, then you can hardly suggest that they are trying to intimidate you, because they would not know you were watching them. As far as they know, you have no idea they looked at your blog, to see who commented or whatever.
You refer to intimidation. For an action to rise to a threat, it has to be communicated to the purported victim. The person you claim is intimidating you has to have *communicated* to you that they are watching or following you, it has to be done outside a pattern of normal behavior, and it has to be done in a manner that a reasonable person would perceive as a threat.
Please, you know nothing of law. You're embarrassing yourself.
Say what you really mean. Let the VANITY flooooooow.
butt i hav no mouth
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And now, my eyesight is going. Thank you.
Fucking good writers with a great perspective...
I hate 'em...
Phil: 7:3
u know not to take the geezer seriously, don't u? There's a reason he lives in the suicide capitol.
And there's a reason yr other detractors look like they fell off a train and are still in the gutter.
Come visit. I miss u.
Indeed! What a thread!!
What a month.. the meltdown and exit of both fusunA and Kate O'hehir and in the case of fusun at least, all her plethora of alters too.
And most interesting it is to note that Paust never once had a response here after having the brass balls to post this piece of shit after what he did to candace and many others.
Chicken Maaan= Chicken Shit
"KO pull your head out of your ass with your left hand and wipe the shit from your eyes with your right. You can't win this argument on any front. What's with all the talk of you leaving?? Stop teasing and just go!! "
Un rated and re-rated.
We were driving back from Michigan when this played out, so comments from us were done one letter at a time from iPhones.
I don't know why you posted this post Matt, but even with over twenty nice comments, the comment thread looks dirty and smells really bad. May be that was your point, but those dirtbags smell really bad. R
Were you around here in August of 2012? No you weren't. If you were, you may have noticed the things that happened (that Matt did, for one) that caused this non-apologetic weak attempt at an explanation. And really, Matt should have apologized. Bet he might even agree. Na.
So just sayin' Rainee, you should shut thee self up so as to not make yourself look fucking stupid dahling. Go sit on your flag pole.
The date only proves that you were always an asshole. Thank you for bringing the Pole up. I knew you were abused as a child. Who did you see sit on a pole? Did they make you? You were probably selling tickets. No wonder you both grew up to be pimps. I would tell you the same but you are beyond help, scumbag!
If you ever blogged, or commented, besides following me around in what is a pretty sick obsessed kind of way, we could consider you a peer. As it is, not so much. Sorry about what I said about thoth. He is a prince ok. Smooch. Please get well rainee