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mamoore
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At my best, I try to be a voice for children. At my very best, I help them find their own voice. ************************************ We don't accomplish anything in this world alone...and whatever happens is the result of the whole tapestry of one's life and all the weavings of individual threads from one to another that creates something. - Sandra Day O'Connor * ************************************

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AUGUST 19, 2009 12:39PM

"Daddy, Daddy...Alice Said the F-Word!"

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                              alice

 

Flashback six months… 

It is a Saturday morning and the kids, ages 6, 8, and 11, are downstairs watching cartoons.  I am enjoying a long, hot shower and a few precious moments of peace.  Suddenly, I hear a stampede of feet running up the wooden stairs.  Screams.  More screams.  I ignore the noise, knowing that my husband will mediate whatever is going on.  Ten minutes later I emerge from the bathroom wrapped in my towel to find my husband still laughing to himself.  The stampeding feet belonged to the two older children, rushing upstairs to tattle on their six-year old sister, Alice.  “Daddy, daddy…Alice said the F-word!”, they screamed.  And one set of feet slowly followed, leaving a trail of tears up the stairs.  Huge eyes look up at my husband, “But Daddy, I don’t even know what the F-word is!”  Bad luck when you are learning to rhyme and start with the word duck. 

I am not good at swearing, except in my head.  We are not puritans, not overly strict, or overly religious, or anything else that would preclude us from letting a little curse word slip. We just don’t do it. We swear so infrequently in my house that my kids gasp when they hear a bad word in a movie. Even the words “shut up” make them shudder.  I have started to wonder if I am somehow damaging them by not exposing them to some good four letter words every now and then. To be honest, I am not sure how I will write this post because there are some words I don’t think  I can make myself type, but I’m going to give it a try. 

 

“Horse shit” was my parent’s swear word of choice.  They must have thought the addition of an animal classification somehow made it more acceptable.  I specifically remember one incident with my mom, on the phone with our local newspaper editor who had written something unflattering about her in an editorial. She finally burst and said “Horse shit, Ira.”  She threw the newspaper in the fire and cancelled her subscription but every time I saw that newspaper on the stands, my mom’s words rang in my ears. “Horse shit.”  That was it.  I don’t ever remember my parents uttering another swear word. Especially not the f-word.  That was crossing an uncrossable line.

 

My first attempt at swearing was in fifth grade, fresh off of a phone call with one of my best friends. I was crushed by something she had said, slammed down the phone, went racing across my parent’s bedroom in tears, and blurted out “Kim is such a bitch.”  I thought I would be banished for life but I think my mom had sympathy for my social pain and never mentioned my indiscretion.  Years later, I was working at a kayaking school in northern California.  A free flowing place where clothing was often optional and alternative lifestyles were the norm.  Swearing was just another means of expression and somehow, half way through my first summer, it was noted that I never swore.  Several of the kayak instructors took it upon themselves to teach me the fine art of saying the f-word and meaning it.  I was an eager student, but every time I tried to land a well placed f-bomb they laughed in my face.  Very humiliating.  I gave up.

 

Then, I met my husband, well-versed in swear words of all types.  What happened to him?  He could have passed the torch to my kids but, no, instead he gradually whittled those words out of his vocabulary.  I never told him to stop, I swear I didn’t.  It just happened, slowly.  Maybe it was because we became parents. 

 

Becoming parents, now that’s a time when any woman should be allowed to swear, f-word included.  Who doesn’t swear during labor?  I think I did.  If I didn’t, I should have. Time magazine said so.  In an article in their Health section for god’s sake!   The article is titled “Why Swearing Is Good For You: It not only vents frustration, but a new study shows it actually alleviates physical pain.”  Great.  By not swearing, I am neglecting to pass on to my children a necessary life skill.  But, wait, I keep reading and start to feel better.  According to Richard Stephen’s, who conducted the study, too much swearing may have “a dulling effect on these verbal painkillers.”  He goes on to say “That’s one of the reason’s that I think people should not overuse profanity.  That’s not because I’m a prude but because it blunts swear words of their power when you need them.  You should save them for just the right occasions.”

 

Validation, at last!  I feel better. I can stop trying to increase my swearing capabilities.  And, I am going to stop worrying about teaching my children to swear.  Somehow, that's already been taken care of.

 

 Flashback to a recent family dinner… 

My husband and I are engrossed in some kind of conversation when I notice that the 8 and 11 year olds are making muted grunting noises and counting something with their fingers.  The daughter has five fingers up.  The son has eight.  He looks up at me and smiles.  “We are counting how many swear words we know.”  And he goes back to making funny, unrecognizable grunts. He pauses and looks up at me.  “Does it count as a separate word if I add ‘hole’ to one I already said?” 

 

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This one is for Bill S. who, after finding out in my interview with cartouche that I can't swear, made me swear I would write this someday and for Steve Blevins who said my blog was so wholesome it made him feel like he should wash his hands before reading...
With cussing, less is more. Very cute! :)
Melissa
Still wholesome... but always an enjoyable read. I remember when my kids expanded their vocabulary... it mostly happened in school, oh the teacher parent meetings.
I say yes, it is a separate word! And I love this. We were never allowed to swear as kids, but between high school and college, then working in the construction industry . . . I may not utilize the most creative blue-streak, but damned if it doesn't blow the cobwebs out sometimes.

We tried to teach one of my college roommates how to swear. Somehow, it never seemed to work. Then again, I had a client who had lived in the inner city, and tried to teach me to say the phrase, "motherfucker, get up out (of) my grill" properly. I think her purpose was her own endless entertainment, though, since my every attempt had her rolling on the floor laughing.

Maybe it's an intonation/accent thing - but great post all the way around!
Thanks Hoop - as long as the words are there when we need them!

Chuck - I fear my mantle of wholesomeness may be with me for eternity. Yes, even at camp I know my kids learn way more than what I think they do!

Owl - I told him he could count it if he was clever enough to think of it. Plus, it seemed important to him to be able to get to 10. I would like an actual demonstration of you defending your grill - matching that phrase up with the girl who traveled in that flowing church choir dress is an excellent visual!
Yeah . . . it's kind of like I've had a couple/few lifetimes in my life . . . :~)
Your mother definitely has a sense of humor! Good that your husband didn't pass the torch.

I very seldom swore around the boys when they were young and was shocked when my older son was 3 years old and he told an adult friend that his damn new shoes hurt his feet. My neighbor lady who looks very distinguished and is 70 years old swears like a sailor at a drop of a hat. You just never know what to expect from her!

I'm sure your kids will eventually learn all of them without your help. Nothing wrong with being wholesome either! Good post!
One trick is to teach them a good synonym for every bad word. For example, "bitch" becomes "harridan." Kids like to know words that their peers don't know. It's "cooler" than cursing.
(My hands are clean!)
Owl - sounds like you've still got plenty more to go!

Pamela- I couldn't swear well before I had kids so it wasn't really a problem to cut down once they were around. Most of the words my kids know they have learned from books, movies, and friends. It's amazing how many words are allowed to slip into a PG movie. Anyway, when I actually do swear I have to admit I enjoy the look of shock on their faces, and then they usually laugh.

Steve - So glad you stopped by, thanks for remembering to wash first. My most wholesome swearing moment was once when I was really mad at my kids and said "God....bless America." And again, they laughed at me. I like the synonym idea...let's see, on my computer, shit becomes egest. Wonder if it has the same health benefits?
I'm afraid I can be quite the potty mouth but when my kids were young I controlled it and did not let them indulge either, at least in my presence. As they got older words crept into all of our conversations but I think they learned the most important lesson of swearing: knowing when and where it is acceptable.
Twice now I have let the F bomb fly while my boys were in the truck with me and we were in danger of being run over by some idiot that shouldn't have a license. I apologized as they were laughing hysterically and told me it was ok and I told them it wasn't because I was a mom! Sometimes you just can't help it.
Life is Good- I do notice that my mom doesn't even bat an eye when my siblings swear in front of her these days. Funny, both of my sisters and my brother seem to have no problem swearing, wonder what happened to me?

Lunchlady - If that is really your job, I can imagine there have been many times when you almost slipped on a stray bologna sandwich or some spilled Sunny D and had to choke down a few choice words!
My dear, I swear at life and with life.
If you dont curse that is good. I think sometimes in curse words and dont bat an eye.
I swear at my typing and spelling all day....
I laughed out loud at the rhyme. My baby sister couldn't pronounce fox, as in the Fox and the Hound -- which was her favorite Disney movie and book as a little girl. So...the F- and the Hound, mommy! I want to watch the F- and the Hound!!
My dad swears like a sailor, although he rarely uses to f-word. My sibs and I were so used to it that we didn't notice much when we were growing up. When we're there to visit now, though, we do, and our kids really do. My sister was there with hers who were 11, 12, and 14. They decided they were going to count how many times Grandpa swore one day. When Dad casually said "Oh bullshit" as he started pouring his first cup of coffee in the morning, my oldest niece looked at her sister and brother and and announced, "I give up." Then there was the four goddamnsonofabitch hayfield day... that's another story.
Mission - I swear in my head all the time - someday it may all come tumbling out at once and I'll be sorry.

Ash - Ah, fox sounds like...yes, I get it. X-rated Disney!

Mginmn - Sounds like you have a very colorful family. I'd love to read the hayfield day story someday!
Oh, dear. I have a potty mouth. I'm trying to cut back because from what I can ascertain, my new roommates don't swear in normal, everyday conversations. And it somehow seems less acceptable in the dignified South than in the (less dignified) Northeast. I need some new, equally satisfying replacements for my two favorite phrases (censored for a wholesome audience): m-f-er and f this s. Any suggestions?
Mamoore, yes that is what I do, who I am and yep I have to admit especially after sumer break I have let slip out a damn-it or shit and the students giggle. It's usually a burn or some other thing I have done being stupid and hurrying! I try really hard ,honest ,to be an adult and say frak or crap( i say that a lot) or dang nab it! I find we mouth words a lot around here but no sound.
Jen - There's nothing wrong with a good potty mouth in the right company! My girls use a lot of the Disney Channel swear words like "Oh pickles!" or "Sweet nibblets!" but I'm thinking those won't go over so well in law school. Stick with what you're good at.

Lunchlady - I honor you and your bravery in facing the lunchroom on a daily basis. I am hoping you have some old posts about your work - I am heading over to check.
I love this Ma. It made me smile repeatedly. Personally, I swear, but I tend to go through phases...sometimes I love the F-bomb, and at othertimes, I use no profanity whatsoever. I don't know what makes that happen. When we were young, my mother would let go a string of swear words a mile long - never the F-bomb though. This was not a frequent thing, but came from sheer exhausted frustration. Now she chastises ME when I say "s**t" around her. Sigh. It seems she forgot her legacy to me.

lovely story...you remind me of my sister in law sooooo much.
Oh, Melissa, how I enjoyed this post. But I am admitting here and now that I live on the opposite side of the state from you in more ways than one! Thankfully, I have a kid who reminds me to reconsider my choice of words, especially when I'm behind the wheel of a car.

And tell your son that if it works in Scrabble, it counts as two words in real life, too.
My ex can't swear. At all. She always comes off like a 6 year old trying to swear for the first time. It was one of the things that I always found endearing about her. She also can't flip the bird. She never gets the right finger going the right way and will go through all of the variants while shaking her fist at the target of her ire. Comic gold.

She only tries to swear or flip the bird when she is really angry and frustrated which makes her complete failure that much more comical to me. My laughter (or at least half suppressed grin) never helped her either.

The only word she can use fluently is "Frack" from BSG. I think Starbuck was a great influence on her ;) She still can't say "fuck" well though.
The F word is so overused in today's society, but I must admit, there are times when no other word will suffice when angry. It's not as upsetting to me as the C word and the P word (when referring to women) or the C word and D word (when referring to men). Just don't like 'em; won't use 'em.

GREAT post!
Swearing has been one of the more liberating shifts in my mid-life! Like you, it was hard. The worst thing my mother ever said was H E Double Tooth Picks. My swearing can be a bit much at times (I wrote a post about this several months ago) and I'm learning to tone it down, but I LOVE SWEARING! Go for it :)
Janie - Funny you can swear but not type out the words! I think my mom still only says horse shit - I'll have to listen next time she gets angry. Wish I was your sister-in-law, that would mean you would have to visit camp and I would be able to move in without notice when our family loses it's health care.

Maria - I visualize newsrooms being full of colorful language of all types so it doesn't surprise me that you are good at it. I still crack up at the 'hole' question, he was so sincere about it.

Charles - Some of us are born with the ability, others, like your ex and I, are terminally impaired. I guess all I can do is make fun of myself at this point!
MTK- I just went to find your swearing post and stumbled on the Family Feud. Thank you so much for that! I have a feeling that my shoots will turn to shits and my darns to damns more often as my kids get older. If you read the Time article it does say that the f-word provides particular relief when used at the right time so maybe my time is coming...

Also want to mention that when I posted this my google ads were still there but as swear words keep getting added to the comments they seemed to have disappeared...I am just saying that so Steve notices that my blog has made the banned posts lists which has to mean it isn't totally wholesome!
Ma you are fine the way you are without the swear words.
I can let them fly as needed and admit the F-word feel good saying.
My mother wrote in my baby book that my first word was "dammit" and I still wonder if that was true.
I am in a non-swearing phase; give me a week or so, and I'll be back in fine form.

You and your family sound like a carbon copy of my brother's. We'll find a way to sneak you into Canada. We need people like you, and it is obvious your own country does not appreciate you. ~sigh~
I have started to wonder if I am somehow damaging them by not exposing them to some good four letter words every now and then.

Don't worry, whatever you don't teach them their schoolmates will. :-D

This one is for Bill S. who, after finding out in my interview with cartouche that I can't swear, made me swear I would write this someday and for Steve Blevins who said my blog was so wholesome it made him feel like he should wash his hands before reading...

Well, shit - what can I say? I'm honored, and I do appreciate you letting me know this post when up, Melissa. It was a smile-inducing read that was totally called for today. :-D

Thumbed.
Ladyfarmer - Thanks. If you started so young, maybe it is genetic!

JK - Maybe it's just a residual effect from the ashram?

Bill - So glad you came. Wasn't sure you would remember making the comment, but I never forgot. And yes, between school and late nights in a tent at summer camp, my kids will continue to increase their vocabulary. Glad the post made you smile, I guess it kind of balances out yours about the disappearing bees (which everyone should read, by the way).
I was reading David Sedaris last night and came across his essay "Town and Country". It so perfectly fit this post and made me laugh so I had to add one quote from it here...

"Shit is the tofu of cursing and can be molded to whichever condition the speaker desires. Hot as shit. Windy as shit. I, myself, was confounded as shit..."
I’m so upset we didn’t get a chance to comment on this earlier that I could almost swear . . . but I won’t ;-) Regardless, it is a rare delight to enjoy a new mamoore piece, and I thank you for this illuminating read!

Is that a picture of your lovely daughter, BTW? I was going to say I really see the resemblance (especially with your new avatar, with your head tilted in the same way but the opposite direction), but then I realized it could just be coincidental clip art :-)

Happy to see you’re finding time to write again, Melissa. I hope to do the same tonight if I can escape OS long enough ;-)

—Melissa
Melissa - That is the real Alice, it was the closest I had to a "I am in trouble and I didn't even do anything wrong" picture! Thanks for stopping by - I'm thinking that once the kids are back in school my writing time will increase again. Off to enjoy a few days of camping...
I agree w Steve that when kids know other less frequently used words, it intimidates their bully peers. Of curse (course..I had to leave the first typo!)this can eventually have an adverse affect if the kids use the words frequently, then they're labeled as "know it all," and "uppity."
Thanks for finding your way here Gary...I think balance is good, and I do need to help my kids find some better words to express their anger and frustration, some more grown-up feeling words maybe. I guess it's inevitable that they will make up their own minds about what they say away from my ears!