Who are these people and how what color is the ozone in their world?
I realize that I don't often rub elbows with with people like those who are packing the Town Hall forums and accusing legislators home for the summer recess of being Communists, Nazis, or just anti-American. I don't purposfully avoid people whose opinions differ from mine, it's just worked out that way. In my working- middle-class neighborhood the campaign signs for Obama outnumbered those for McCain at least 4 - 1. (There's a house on my block that we point to as the home of the "token Republicans" on the street, but they didn't put up a sign. ) For thirty years I've worked for non-profit organizations, and my co-workers at these places have generally been liberals like me, at least on social issues. My friends are mostly teachers, social workers, or health care workers who make much less than six figure incomes and most of them are also fairly progressive thinkers. But every once in awhile events make me realize there's a whole other world out there, and maybe I need to pay attention to what the other side has to say, so at least I'm not so taken aback by their fabrications and invented reality that I can't respond in a calm and reasonable way.
Although I don't think facts and reason have much sway over people like the woman tearfully saying that she doesn't want to have to answer to her child when he asks why they're waiting in line for toilet paper, or the guy pictured with a gun strapped to his leg while holding an anti-Obama sign, or hear it repeatedly stated that euthanasia is part of the national health plan proposal, when it's been pointed out that it's not true. I work with elderly people, I'm for national health insurance, and I wouldn't support it if offing Grandma was part of the plan. Think about it -- how likely is it that a person running for public office would ever propose such a ludicrous idea? Politicians are so afraid of the power of older voters that they won't even mess with Social Security.
Who are these frightened, gullible people and and why are they so willing to ignore reality and believe the fearmongers? How are they able to blissfully unaware of their hypocrisy when they attend a town hall meeting to shout about how they don't want government in charge of their health care, when they're receiving Medicare and happy with it? Who are these people who would vote against a new plan that would promote the common good because they prefer to see the continuation of a broken system that benefits the insurance and pharmaceutical companies who believe that money trumps need?
Maybe if I got out of my St Paul neighborhood and spent some time in the Sixth District that elected Michelle Bachmann to Congress I might better understand the thinking on the other side of the issue. But it would probably do even less good than visiting my dad in Nebraska and debating with him about his membership in the NRA. We at least listen to each other politely before agreeing to disagree. The people at the Town Hall meetings seem much more interested in spewing their programmed talking points than to listening. Who are they? And why are they so afraid? I'm concerned that they're going to stand in the way of progress towards a plan that would benefit everybody, including them, because they don't understand the problem. And I don't understand them.


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It's funny that you ignored two other (larger and better known) government-run health care programs to focus on the Indian Health Service. Both Medicare and the Veterans Health Care programs are government-run, and both are very successful as measured by measures of costs-benefits, as well as surveys of patients. I don't mean to excuse the Indian Health program (or other Indian programs) for its neglect, but both the Medicare and VA programs are many times larger, and are proof that government-run health care can be very effective.
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I really don't think that the people yelling about communism and euthanasia at town hall meetings have any idea what they're talking about, or who they're really helping. I'd love to ask them if they know who runs our current health care system, and how much money these companies and providers are raking in from the ever-poorer American middle class. If the protesters understood where all the money we're spending on health care ends up, I doubt they'd turn out to help sustain the private health care plutocracy.
Nice post! I, too, am amazed at the fear-wongering and the credulity.
Mojomama, I've also envied the elders I work with their access to health care on a few occasions. For three years I sat in many doctors' offices because I was making sure they got to their appointments but I haven't been to my doctor at all during that time because my deductible is so high and I can't really afford the premiums but I'm afraid to give up what I have because I have a pre-existing condition and couldn't get re-insured.
Everyone starts out with free healthcare. When people take in too many calories,fat,sugar, drink alcohol, smoke, take drugs etc. This chip will download the data. The owner of the body will have the option of starting to pay for part of his/her healthcare or getting less coverage. When people exercise and do proactive things for their body they will receive a check.
The healthiest people won't need healthcare but will have full coverage and extra money, the unhealthiest will be forced to change their ways or pay for their own healthcare. The rest of us will not be paying the cost of the body abusers which is what fills the hospitals up. I believe this to be the perfect solution. Simplistic but perfect.
Also the thought of the government micro-chipping everybody at birth makes me think of Orwell. No thanks.
Why haven't our political leaders put these idiots in their place?
People are also prone to believe what that secretly lean toward anyway. Enough people are distrustful by Obama's gift of melanin and Arabic name that it doesn't take much to stir that up by using old catch phrases and erroneous cultural memes.
Moreover, the effectiveness of the appeal to fear is as old as humanity, and the cognitive capability of humans has not evolved fully enough in many, many people for them to be able to rationally evaluate the complex problems and predominantly subtle actual threats we face today in a world of nearly 7 billion people. We continue to be burdened with tribal hunter-gatherer brains more functionally appropriate to a time when threats were simple, omnipresent, proximate, and lethal. So, we suffer a subliminal tendency to overestimate trivial or non-existent risks while underestimating large ones. The works of people like Nassim Nicholas Taleb and the behavioral economists Kahneman and Tversky shed a lot of good light on this irrationality affliction.
This is just what I hoped to find. Experiences of people in America about social issues. Here where I live in Indonesia the economy is growing so fast you can smell its tyres burning. The result of this is that democracy and social welfare are chasing along behind and grabbing at things from western democracies that seem to work, but I fear are not the best sometimes for a society so full of its own distinctive eastern traditions.
Health care is becoming free to people who successfully pass a means test to show they can't afford it. Unfortunately this allows the public servants issuing the certificate that says they are poor, to want something for doing so. Hence the lower middle classes are getting the free heaalth care and the truly poor can't 'afford' it. Same with free shooling.
I grew up with the British NHS and despite the moans about the service it is a most wonderful thing to have and my(Indonesian) wife was amazed that we had such a thing when we first visited Britain together around thirty years ago. She saw it as a sign of great wealth in the country, but more importantly of equality and decency in the county's society.
John Duckham, I also joined OS in the hopes of hearing from people with other experiences and perspectives, and what you say about Indonesia is really interesting. Thank you.