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OCTOBER 23, 2011 1:10PM

What the fuck is wrong with people

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You know this has been brewing in me for a while now and I guess it’s just time to just let it all go.  What the fuck is wrong with you people?!

What kind of petty ridiculous lives do we really lead that the most important part of our day is to find something unpleasant to say to someone.  What the hell happen to being polite, kind and caring?

If you don’t like something then don’t read it.  Making some ridiculously self-righteous comment about it doesn’t help anyone.  If I am not interested in what you write I don’t read it and I don’t comment; the best criticism in the world as far as I am concerned.

The other problem with that is I also read a tremendous amount of things that I love and I just don’t comment so, it really isn’t about the commenting or not it’s about being a fucking twit about it.

I’ve been around here for a long time and have become very fond of so many of the people here and I think I have also found people who enjoy my company too but I have also seen so many assholes come and go here and then there are those that just never go.  They stick around just to be mean and hateful.  Man I don’t ever want to believe that my life could become such a miserable bucket of shit to the point that I just want to go and be mean to other people.

I’ve tried to approach this subject intelligently and rationally in the past but it’s not an intelligent or rational subject.  The whole concept of bully, troll, fuckwit has just become something of a real epidemic anymore.  We can be assholes to each other online and not see each other face to face.

See the problem dealing with this is that it brings up all kinds of emotions in all of us.  We feel vulnerable, insecure and even frightened.  We don’t want to be hurt.  It brings out in the empathetic ones a real need to comfort and it brings out in the fuckwits their perfect intoxication and they can go ape shit happy on being mean.

There are so many beautiful and talented people out here and they spend every day working on showing a humorous side to life or rallying the group together or bringing joy to our lives even though you can tell that there are times when it is hard for them also.  They don’t attack and they don’t hurt.  They just keep trying.

Me, I can go from just blowing the truth out there like a bursting wound to just being a goofball to writing some fantasy which I haven’t done in a while.  I just love to write.  It really does satisfy so much in me. 

I also love to read and there are so many wonderful writers out here, people who can bring a bright star to a day.  There are so many brilliant artists residing on this little segment of the universe, not just writing, but music, art, video and more.

Nothing however irritates me more than mean people.  We are surrounded by mean people anymore.  Our government is full of mean people, our corporations are run by mean people and our lives are surrounded every day with mean people.

I say to the mean people, “Get over yourselves!  You are no more important than anyone else.  We are all the same and we are all in this together, so maybe you should start joining in and stop ganging up.”

See, here’s the problem with this subject.  I said I was going to let it all go in the beginning and I’m not letting it all go because to let it all go would mean that I would have to become mean and I don’t want to do that. 

Damnit people love and peace really are possible goals, so, it’s just a little rant piece or snit piece where I am voicing my frustration and hopefully it will allow others to feel safer at voicing their frustration.  Who knows?

I wonder sometimes what it might be like to just turn around and walk away from this, to just leave all the weirdness and trolls and drama and complications behind.  I don’t write here because I think some publisher will find me.  I write here out of the comradeship that is with us, the connection that we have to each other, the understanding and the friendship.

I don’t think I am unique in the fact that I found myself here, like many of us for reasons of looking for a reason, a purpose, friends and support, and a vehicle that could be used creatively.  This became a part of my life flow.  This is a docking station where I can go to speak and listen.

So, to those who find pleasure in being mean I say, go somewhere else, or, just take a few seconds and think before you start typing out some bitter little sentence.  You are really only hurting yourself when you do this.  It shows us all how petty and foolish you really can be sometimes.

I’m an old hippy.  I was born a hippy.  Peace and love is what my DNA is.  I believe in this with every fiber of my being and it’s hard sometimes because we all can just forget it so quickly, including myself.

It really is easy, just breath, just be, peace and love.  WE are all connected.

cool peace

hippy mike

love

 

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Thank God for hippies, "old" or not.
This should be everyone's rule for living life! BE NICE! Honestly, I agree. What is up with people who try to cause trouble? You are right! Get over yourselves! Yeah for you!!
Thank you Man talk now, absolutely, or or new hippy, we are all the same.
Thank you MiddleAgedWomanBlogging, I agree completely. The new slogan should be BE NICE!. Thank you for reading and commenting.
BE NICE….it takes less effort, you’ll feel better and your outlook will improve!
~R~
great stuff, mike, and the timing couldn't be more perfect. peace.
Hey Mical, I hope to live up to this. Good post.
My two cents on > [[ "I say to the mean people, “Get over yourselves! You are no more important than anyone else." ]]

The meanest of the bunch know full well that they are not more important. In my experience, the cruelest bastards typically feel extreme paranoia that the world thinks/knows they are Less Than everyone else. They are terrified that people can see through their act. The "Feeling Less Than" makes them want to convince people, and themselves, that they are "More Than".

BUT Their private battles on the inside are far uglier than the public ones they force in our faces on the outside. And if you are an old hippy as you say (ha, love it), well, you know the anonymity of cyberspace has provided a 'seemingly' safe haven for people to act out the worst sides of their personality any time of day.

Don't Feed The Trolls! We all know we should ignore the trolls. Starve them out and they'll move on. But instead we feed them, online and off.
I feed them. You feed them. Everyone I know has fed the trolls. It's a virtual soup kitchen! We gotta not feed them... They need to find their own nourishment. And truth is, many of them do, eventually.
Good advice my friend!!!

OR WE'LL BOP YOU IN THE NOSES!!! :D

RATED!
Dude...people become trolls because they are rewarded for it. On OS...they often float to the top in being read. In politics, they become famous. In a work environment, they are seen as strong.
Nasty pays off.

What you have to ask yourself is whether you are willing to sell your soul to get ahead.
For some,...yes.
For others.....no.
Thank you M. C. Sears. You are right it does take a lot less work and it is a lot more rewarding.
Thank you Candace Mann, the timing was an accident but I think you are right, it is a good time for us all to start demanding kindness.
Rita thank you, you are one of the good people out here.
Thank you Charlie Kazfranco. You are right. I have always said that the best defense to these people is to ignore them. Great comment.
Thank you Tink, you are also one of the stars that shine out here. I appreciate you being here.
Thank you J D Smith, you are right it really is a choice.
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well you do realize that you just dipped into 'mean' territory by having a rant, right?
One person's "I'm just saying the way it is" is quite often another person's "damn that was mean, what a bitch"

but yeah, nicer is better. I'm learning that it's not always possible, but it's certainly easier all the way around.
hyblaean- Julie I agree completely. That is why it's so hard to approach the subject of someone being mean. I don't want to be mean trying to point out mean. Thank you for your comment, and thanks for reading this.
it's an unhappy time.
it's an unhappy time.
Don Rich, I agree, it is strange times right now.
I've been thinking a lot about compassion, what it means, and how to live a compassionate life means showing and living compassion for oneself's failures and foibles as well as those of others. Maybe it's because I'm a Virgo, or an INTJ in Meyers Briggs parlance, but I've always been very harsh on my personal mistakes, and sometimes others' too. But living compassion does not, IMO, mean we should suffer fools gladly or allow people to ride roughshod over us. I think you've made a well-reasoned argument and I respect you for it.
Thank you ccdarling for reading this and sharing.
Well said. I tend to be this way myself, though I have often discovered that if there is a rebuttal to be made in order to at least sound off against ludicrous ideas presented as fact, or other such things, that I am motivated to speak out. I do my best not to be mean about, meaning I don't name call, disparage or put out the verbal "smackdown," though there are times I fail.

Even so, the times where I feel I must respond to the kinds of things that do make my blood boil, and as much as I hold back from just letting the crap fly, I still feel bad about it later. I wish I could still believe that ignoring someone is the best method to take in those times.

Sadly, there are times where, if everyone with half or more of a brain could do just that, it would be the best method to take -- and clearly, this is not the general nature of the beast. The general nature of the beast is that lunatics, malcontents, power mongers, hateful spiteful people with an axe to grind just simply do not go away.

They continue to spew their hateful diatribe, infecting others with less desire to discern truth from lie, fact from fiction, reality from sordid fantasy and are sucked into the madness. The weaker minds out there are what the whole Political Process thrives upon in these times and, like you said, are politicians are mean people for the most part.

If we were all gifted with the ability to rationally see the world pretty much as it is, comprehend the nature of being a person and being filled with compassion for our fellow man, ignoring the idiots, the fear and hate mongers would be a breeze. As it is, we must -- those of us with the ability to see when mean people are being mean and hateful people are being hateful -- speak out with force.

This does not require us to spit invective, call names, disparage others' credibility or accreditation or make allusions to someone's mental competency, lineage, ethnicity or class, sex and gender as a reason to put someone down. That said, it is important to be clear, forceful and use the language necessary that makes the point that you seek to make.

One of the things I was trained to do, in the workforce, was to focus on the issue, the problem itself, not the person or the situation -- unless the situation is the problem, of course.

SO I hope that I haven't taken to being what might be seen as a "mean" person in anyone's eyes (even to the mean people, I would hope.) I am willing to be taken to task for it and I am willing to be shown when I have erred. I may not like it, though that doesn't mean I can blithely ignore my own faults and faux pas.
-r-
dunniteowl thank you for your comment. Brilliantly put. Thank you for reading this and sharing.
Agreed! I am lucky that the meanies are not interested in what I write. Suits me to the ground.
Among many memorable turns of phrase from the old hippy’s keyboard,
I think I have decided this is my favorite:
“it brings out in the fuckwits their perfect intoxication and they can go ape shit happy on being mean.”

Written in your inimitable style, old boy.

I , surprisingly enough, have never run into many meanies. The ones I have encountered, I’ve gone full-out fuck-em-up on their asses.

I hate being mean. Except to meanies. Then the blood roars red hot.
Thank you Miguela Holt y Roybal for reading this and commenting.
Thank you James for reading this and for sharing and for always being so unbelievably kind and upbeat. I do however think after some of the comments that the suggestion of just barking back at the meanies might be the way to go.
Um, seriously, I have read a lot of things that you've written before and I think you are quite talented, but that is the single dumbest thing I have ever read in my life.

This sentiment that you have just expressed is exactly why there are so many more mediocre writers in this joint then there are good ones.

I don't know if you have aspirations to be published or if you already have been. You're certainly good enough when you are focused in your writing that someone might pay to read it, but if you haven't been published and you would like to be, you better grow a much thicker skin because the plugs in here that throw pot shots are nothing compared to the soul crushing words of a real critic...especially when you know they are right.

What happened to being polite? We tried it...look where the country is because of it. Now, it's BitchSlap Days and all next week they're 2-for-1.
Thank you MalcolmXY, for reading this and sharing. I do understand your point completely. I have experienced the real world of rejection and I still do that. I understand that part of it. I also cannot and will not give up on my goofball flower power magical thinking that says, "We really can live in peace and love", and if we run into some problems then we do some serious ass kicking, which I also believe is where we are at now on a lot of fronts. Again thank you for reading this and commenting.
I'm in SF today and marched with OWS SF yesterday. The cops marched with us, escorts, but, marching right beside ... no pigs, no pepper spray while I was there, it felt like solidarity to me.

I say this because I came here to write about surfing, and receive welcome critique from other writers, and peer review others, and debate art in what this is, a Salon.

However, Salon discussions have always included religion and politics, the two things Tutu said never to discuss over dinner, and, right after I got here the Prez was elected- you can imagine the joy here in the Islands at seeing our BLACK HAWAIIAN FEARLESS LEADER's inauguration: true joy.

Then, immediately the hate started. There can be no other honest description. Straight up hate from haters.

You are right, one does not have to read anything they don't want to. And resulting jumps in blood pressure back this up.

However, I was raised to NEVER stand down to a bully, ever. The number of trolls here who are passive aggressive seems to be 100%. Lets assume this site primarily focused on peer reviews of fiction, tales of travels, and so on as was intended. When trolls behave badly in this situation, I'd be certain to respond with wit and sarcasm, the tools of the trade.

But when they attacked Oahu, the Island which along with NYC made the ultimate sacrifice for this great Nation, implying the hospital our Queen built to protect us from the ravages of (inevitable) Western Disease, with a global campaign calling us frauds, conspirators and worse- well, lets just say it is quite instructive that was never once done in person, only by trolls online, and, sadly, in the employ of so called media corporations broadcasting their evil spew.

So, I love your work, and I will continue to read fine, and not so fine, work of others here who toil at the keyboard. I will protect honest and sensitive writers who are attacked by insecure and passive aggressive haters, and do so with etiquette- but, November 2012 is around the corner and this is a War we are in and make no such promises to any right wing authoritarians who frequent a Salon to spout their propaganda, ignorance, racism and hate.

I will keep reading your Love though, bruddah :)

Aloha Kakou
Oahusurfer, thank you so much for your comment. Many of the comments here have been so uplifting to me because they are speaking in terms of being "finally" fed up with the things that are going on. The one comment spoke of feeling bad when something like this is written because we really don't want to create hurt, I believe that but I also believe there comes a time when we must speak out and speak up and we must protect those who we respect, love and honor and that time is now. We are watching our very foundation of life being torn apart by individuals, our government, politics, greed and violence and it affects ever single one of us. Everyone thank you for reading this and sharing. Thank you.
Momma said it best: "If you can't say something nice then don't say anything at all".

Words to live by.

:-) / R
Many mean people are FEAR based. So scared and yet pretending to be so tough and brave. Humility helps. We are all in this together. Old Hippy Lady
Thank you toritto, my mom always said, "They can chew you up but they have to spit something out." Of course this explains the cynicism in my family also because my dad always said, "You gotta be tough if you are going to be dumb." Thank you for reading this and commenting.
Thank you zanelle, yes we are all in this together. We are all connected and when one hurts we all hurt and when one smiles we all smile, well something like that. Thank you for reading this and sharing.
I am glad that I can still find Peace on your site. Your title made me nervous!
I try to avoid commenting on political posts and stay away from rants. I agree that it is getting a bit out of control and I am glad that you posted this. It is carrying over into real life and I find myself saying the same thing, "if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all, please!"
Going by comments, I'm a troll ~ but there are relatively few of us, so there's that.
I do like this piece, Mical, so there's that as well :-)
I'm an ole' hippy too, and think I would have been rather the 60's happened or not. Mike, there are many mean people who have no lives, can't write and get their jollies being assholes. I have a guy on Viewshound who has taken the trouble to go and read everything I've every written it seems, googled it and tells me every sentence or word I got wrong. He commented 5 times on one piece, and his comments were longer than my post. Yet when I went to his site, I saw where he has never written anything. Nada. Zip. He's just a mean, jealous prick that can't stand someone is getting attention while he has to go through life with a frown on his face. Fuck him. I like to laugh, and smile and joke around. You're right, why don't they just go and find someone to argue with, because I'm not doing it! Great post my man~~
Kim Gamble, I think it would be hard to call yourself a troll by just saying that. I have never thought of you that way. Thank you for reading this and commenting.
Scanner thanks man. You are also one of those people that I always look for. It's so much more fun being happy than being so damn mean.
It all boils down to three words...

"Lack of manners."

Manners are old fashioned and passe.

Thanks for calling us out on them.
Thanks phyllis45, It's funny that things can come down to being so simple. It really is just kindness, consideration, manners and respect. The dummy down nation that we have become needs to stop all of this and realize that we are beautiful, creative and intelligent beings. Thank you for reading this and commenting.
Trying-to-be Master Fence walker here ;).

I hear your frustration, hippy friend, sometimes ya just gotta let it blow. Doesn't really accomplish anything, but then again, there's that thing about silence giving consent eh? So if ever once in awhile ya blow a gasket, at least readers know you're not consenting :).

Rated for ruffled feathers.
And you handled the criticism (which was sprinkled with quite a few compliments as well) perfectly. There's a way to do it...no need to be all negative all the time, but no need to be all positive all the time either.

How do you know peace if you've never experienced chaos?

now - rated...
Thank you Seer, yea sometimes I just gotta let it go. This time has been rewarding, I have to say that. It's been a plus.
Ha! Thank you MalcolmXY, I love that line. I know peace because I know chaos. Thank you for the rate and thank you for your comments.
Thank you A. Walrond for reading this and commenting.
I hope you've read Candace aka femme's current post. It's like she's taken your BeNice idea and broken through to the other side. You are a force. Keep it up.
Is it kind? Is it true? Is it helpful?

It's a little like the classic "devil's triangle" where you have three choices but can only pick two (fast, cheap, good), except that with kind/true/helpful you can have all three if you reach for it. And you should.
I have nothing particularly original to say, having seen the comments that are already here. I would simply like to be one of the thousands of people that I hope will thank you for posting such a necessary message.
Sometimes mean people don't mean to be mean. Some are socially awkward or have deluded themselves into thinking they are comedians. In a comedy club they'd learn they need to work on their material to switch the boos to laffs. Feedback here is not as immediate and ill-feelings can linger past their moment. When I started on OS nearly two years ago I thought the way to get read was to be outrageous. Some people have never forgiven me for the stunts I pulled back then. I agree there are people who simply seem to enjoy putting others down. For them I have no time. With trolls like Tink and Kim Gamble, however, I've learned to read between the lines.
Thank you Jeff L. Howe, yes I did read it, it was beautiful. It brought tears to my eyes. Thank you Jeff for reading this and commenting.
Thank you Paul Fornale...
Thank you Chicken Maaan for reading this. For me I have to remember that we are all human and we are all vulnerable and that we all deserve to be loved and cared about. We are all connected.
The magnetic sign on my desk says, Be Nice orLeave.
Very very cool peace MarkinKentuckiana
"All things must pass." George Harrison.

They are cruel because they feel small in themselves. They live in a world that is mean and hateful and the best I can work up is usually pity I admit my humanity makes me slip but I try not to dwell on it.
i too have been here for a long while. even though i don't comment as much as i used to, i still read and appreciate OS ( your fantasy writings!), but i usually avoid commenting on the meanness. i believe by writing and pursuing our craft and art here, we succeed in letting go of the mean — the trolls[?]. be true to yourself. be true to what brought you here to OS and the magic continues. Mike, i'm fortunate to have made your acquaintance; as all my friends who create magic here.
Chuck thank you, it's good to have people like you still here.
We have not had a lot of exchanges for both being around for awhile but I have read a lot of what you do and am glad you said this today.
Thank you alsoknownas
I'm sure that you've noted that you're now the "most commented" site on OS.
Thanks Jeff L. Howe, I'll have to go check. I didn't know. It's been a wonderful afternoon and evening with this little piece of mine. I needed this, thank you to all of you.
Whoaa... don't want to get you too full of yourself. That should be "most commented post".
And please, call me Jeff...
I'm probably being "mean" by writing something other than effusive praise, but I think that there are billions of more appropriate subjects for a post called "what the fuck is wrong with people" than someone making negative comments on someone's writing.
MP:

Well said, and good timing. You answered your own question in your title: PEOPLE ARE FUCKED UP! Unfortunately the ones closest to them are sick of telling them so........
Thanks Jeff Maehre for reading this.
Thank you jramelle. I think it's good to do this every once in a while and if the point doesn't get across we all keep doing it. Play Nice!
Thank you Kate O'hehir for reading this and sharing.
I don't know what the definition of "mean" is since it seems to vary from person to person. I used to get called mean at OS for pointing out people who were running con jobs on other members. I stopped doing that. Then I got called mean for writing my opinion, even though I wasn't asking anyone to share it. I stopped doing that. I also got called mean for occasionally pointing out how writing that didn't make sense, or was badly written, could be make better. I stopped that too for the same reason. Now I no longer write here since the majority of people at OS want nothing but all praise, all the time, and that is not particularly interesting to me. Now I probably make "mean" comments because I do not know what constitutes mean in the minds of most OSers, but I suspect it's the lack of praise and agreement with the writing/ideas presented. That's a limited world view in my opinion, but then again, I'm not asking anyone to share it.
Mical, it's not hard for (most) of us to agree that people shouldn't be mean. But after reading all the comments, I wonder if we all agree with what "mean" is, or if people recognize themselves when they are being mean. I like your description of the intoxication of meanness. I think the drug is self-righteousness and I know I've gotten high on it a few times. You don't think you are being mean when you think you are right. Maybe genuine, dedicated trolls know they are trolling, but most of the meanness doesn't come from the few trolls, it comes from most of us at one time or another, and we don't see it because we think we're right.
I was going to make a different comment, but then I saw an actual definition of mean (by one who isn't sure if they are, and if one must wonder, then one probably is mean).

"Now I probably make "mean" comments because I do not know what constitutes mean in the minds of most OSers, but I suspect it's the lack of praise and agreement with the writing/ideas presented. That's a limited world view in my opinion, but then again, I'm not asking anyone to share it."

One can be constructive, and even helpful offering a diverse opinion without being mean. Mean people like to hang out with other mean people, so no worries Michael, you are in good company here.

Love and kisses for Eternity

GG
Hippy Mike!! I always sense so much love in your postings... this kind of solidifies it. Thanks for reminding us all of what a (caring) community should look like. Peace... J
Thank you emma peel 2 for reading this and commenting. I think live is a series of lessons and we need to learn here that there is constructive criticism and then there is just being mean, I am finding that the definition of mean seems to be the real issue here. This was about OS, of course in many ways, but, this was also about just how we have changed as people, the world, we live in a much more aggressive and angry world. thank you for reading and sharing.
Thank you Sirenita Lake for reading this and sharing. I agree. I think the deeper issue here is our unbelievable need sometimes to feel that we are right. Everything is out of control anymore and to be right about something feels profound at times. The problem, the thing we are forgetting is that we are really all in this together. We really are connected and it affects us all.
God is here thank you for your comment.
Brazen Princess thank you for you kind comment.