Why I Love Conservative Talk Radio's John and Ken Show
If you’re happy that Rush Limbaugh has been giving headaches to Republican leaders trying to find a popular political stance for their shrinking party, you’ll be thrilled to hear about the migraines that a conservative-libertarian talk radio duo named John and Ken are giving to the leadership of the Republican Party in California.

While Limbaugh helps the Democrats by shoving the Republican Party backwards toward an increasingly unpopular combination of militarism and social conservatism, at least his primary targets are Democrats.
Limbaugh wants Obama to fail, not the Republican Party.
In contrast, John and Ken almost never mention Democrats. Their primary target is the leadership and elected officials of the California Republican Party.
And while Limbaugh’s followers are the people whose marginal political power was proven in the last election to be insufficient to prevent the collapse of the Republican Party, the followers of John and Ken are people whose votes and enormous political clout are absolutely essential to California Republicans – the true believers of the California tax revolt.
But before we talk about John and Ken, we need a short history lesson:
Movements of highly motivated true believers are difficult to contain and control, and can become a mortal danger even to their putative leaders and one-time heroes.
During the French Revolution, Maximilien Robespierre was executed by the same mob that he had once incited and led in the Reign of Terror against his enemies.
In Communist China, Mao gave his official blessing to the radical Red Guard movement during the Cultural Revolution for the purpose of consolidating his control over the country’s universities and intellectuals. Within a short time, the Red Guards had created chaos throughout China and threatened to destabilize Mao’s own regime.
In Iran, Abolhassan Banisadr incited and mobilized Islamic opposition to the Shah. Within a year after the Shah was overthrown, Bamisadr was himself deposed and threatened with death by these same Islamic militants.
Now California’s Republican Party leadership faces a similar fate at the hands of the anti-tax extremists who have long served as their own revolutionary guard and army of true believers.
When the tax revolt began in California in the 1970s, the state’s Republican Party leadership was opposed to a constitutional amendment that would limit the government’s ability to raise taxes. They believed -- correctly -- that such an amendment would lead to enormous budget deficits.
But when Prop 13 was approved in 1978 by an overwhelming 65 percent of the voters, California’s Republican Party leaders – Governor Ronald Reagan above all -- quickly hopped on the very top of the anti-tax bandwagon. Ever since, hostility to taxes -- in any form and under any and all conditions -- has been an article of faith for California’s Republican Party.
The enduring political success of the California tax revolt has given enormous power to anti-tax extremists such as Grover Norquist and his organization, Americans for Tax Reform, as well as the organization of the late tax revolt hero, Howard Jarvis, The Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association. Norquist and Jarvis became, in effect, the ideological leaders of the California Republican Party, and their organizations now serve as the party’s real battlefield force. When Norquist insisted that Republican candidates swear to oppose any tax increase under any and all circumstances, every Republican member of the California legislature signed the Pledge.
It has been an alliance that has served the party well, particularly because these anti-tax organizations are so effectively run and because the identification of the California Republican Party with the tax revolt has motivated hundreds of thousands of grass roots anti-tax extremists to work tirelessly -- walking precincts, making phone calls, addressing envelopes, and mobilizing home owners and community groups -- on behalf of the Republican Party and to get out the vote for Republicans candidates.
Now all that is threatened by two guys named John Kobylt and Ken Chiampou with very loud microphones who are appalled at the tax increases included in the budget deal between Governor Schwarzenegger and the state legislature.
Their radio program -- The John and Ken Show on Los Angeles’ conservative KFI AM-640 – is the most listened to local talk radio program in the United States.
And it has declared total war on the leadership of the California Republican Party, which it blames for the budget's increases in taxes.

Since the budget deal, for four prime-time hours every day, John and Ken have relentlessly blasted California’s Republican leadership as traitors to the anti-tax movement and the people of California.
They’ve put pictures on their website of Schwarzenneger and the leaders of the California Republican Party with their heads on pikes, swords, and toilet plungers.
They've called for the recall of Schwarzenegger.
They’ve called for the recall of Republican legislators.
They’ve announced “Revolt, Recall and Repeal” rallies.
And they’ve taken away the leadership of California’s tax revolt from Republican Party allies Grover Norquist, Americans for Tax Reform, and The Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association.
They are about to destroy the California Republican Party.
Democrats should be thrilled.

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Very good post.
Libertarians are self-satisfied children -- sometimes charming, sometimes provocative, sometimes insightful -- but always naifs.
Often absurd, obnoxious, even, at times, dangerous naifs.
And yeah, cool, they are dismantling the Repubs, I guess, but a soon as a Dem is elected they will do the same to her. feh.
Libertarians are self-satisfied children -- sometimes charming, sometimes provocative, sometimes insightful -- but always naifs.
Often absurd, obnoxious, even, at times, dangerous naifs.
And yeah, cool, they are dismantling the Repubs, I guess, but a soon as a Dem is elected they will do the same to her. feh.
btw, great post.
I hope it does for the following reason.
When we have a republican president and house we have major deficit spending.
When we have a democratic president and house we have major deficit spending.
When we have a democratic president and republican house government lives within their means and actually pays down the national debt.
The second best option is a republican president and democratic house, which produces a little higher deficit spending.
However, that search did reveal a number of recent articles (including one upon which your post appears to be based), most of which indicate that what little clout they have is diminishing all the time. Apparently there are a small handful of California politicians who fear their wrath, but by and large they seem to inspire little concern. Good thing. They are idiots.
Tom Leykis, Larry Eldar and that conservative gay guy (can't recall his name) are less offensive. If John and Ken have any rabid followers at all, it's only because listening for over 10 minutes results in a feedback loop in the brain with the complete disruption of electro-chemical cerebral transmissions.
I like your writing and your thinking, but I believe you are as wrong about this as you are on the Cal Supremes and Prop 8.
John Coupla, president of the Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Association, is doing speaking tours of local California bar associations, the Long Beach Bar Assn being his latest victim, and his activities are a lot more threatening to the Cal Repub Party than John & Ken are.
I, too, don't get the anti-tax extremists. I also don't understand how it is that the anti-tax faction is also usually supportive of big military spending. but what do I know?
Classical obscenity laced insults are rare these days, as are classic insults period. I have to say, sometimes research pulls up some gems. I suppose this is an example of why I like it it when someone sends something to me that sends me to the internet to research confirmation for what I may be about to say. I always find something that either has me keep my mouth (what I may write) shut, confirms what I am about to say or I find a jewel that I was not aware of. This is jewel.
Here is what it should have been, don't pay attention to that post behind the curtain!!
I was on a local fire board when Prop 13 was passed. It was during this time that I was talking with our county auditor about the prospects of the passage of Prop 13 and what effects it would have on our small rural fire department which had only recently become a taxed district.
Part of the discussions involved whey this Proposition even found its way to the ballot. Here is a brief partial history:
Property taxes were rising rapidly for home owners, much faster than wages. The local counties were responsible for financing Welfare, Schools and the Courts. These agencies had little local control over there expenditures. Even with fire service mandates required us to provide services, training and gear for our all volunteer fire department without reimbursements for these required expenses. Schools, Welfare and Courts also had mandates which were not reimbursed by the State requirements.
Local Government paid local Welfare costs but had no control over how to disperse this money. It was state mandated but locally financed
The legislature could never agree to financing of these mandates which they passed into law. It was left up to the local taxpayer to finance. Also the way the tax structure was set up special service districts such as our local fire district had to meet the demands for growing services before they would actually receive any revenue to pay for the increased service at least a year in advance. So you were always a year behind.
The state was doing well with the income it was receiving but the counties only alternative was to continue to raise taxes to meet expenses. Thus the tax on home ownership was rising rapidly. Each year individual home owners were having their monthly payments rise substantially.
If the State were to have taken over the financing of the local Courts, Welfare and those school programs State mandated the local taxes would have been reduced even greater than what Prop 13 eventually brought about. But political infighting, a harbinger of what was to come, kept any workable solution to come about. So, the Jarvis-Gann initiative, Prop 13 qualified for the ballot and was passed.
We have paid for it ever since as it also required any new taxes to have 2/3 majority vote as well as the annual budget for the State. This super majority has often been said to have caused the State of California to have become instead of the most progressive State in the Union, and I don’t mean liberal but forward thinking, to one of the most partisan of any State Government in the Nation. Granted there are other reasons for that partisanship but Prop 13 has had much to do with our State’s gridlock.
Maybe then we can get this state back on a decent financial footing although there's a heck of a lot of damage to undo, first.
You can't live in an apartment without paying the rent, or in a house without paying the mortgage (for long). So I consider taxation a form of rent for living in this nation and my state. (A gross oversimplification, maybe.) I no more enjoy paying taxes than I enjoy making out the rent payment on the first of every month, but I accept the necessity for both. Even the most basic property maintenance costs something.
Which is a big reason why I resent hearing lectures about my perceived lack of patriotism from people who want to "shrink the government until it's small enough to drown in the bathtub."
Governments should be small and charge taxes only for vital services and protection. Not for handouts to the leeches of society.
Do you have any data to back up that crap you just spewed?
Where in the hell did you dig up that? You sound like that apprentice I had some year’s back who hung on everything Rush Limbaugh said. I nicknamed him Joe Ironehead and it stuck. Yes his name was Joe and he was a disaster as an apprentice and an idiot in nearly everything he did. He was often the laughing stock of his fellow crew members in part as he was an arrogant idiot so an easy target for being the butt of the jokes. He never made it to journeyman.
Now Blackflon, I hope that you don’t try to collect on your Social Security some day. It has been propped up by those illegal’s paying into the plan but will never see the money. I wouldn’t want you to have to compromise your principles and take those socialistic dollars and please spare us the having to force you to take Medicare.
Also these illegal’s rarely use social services as they fear being caught and deported. They don’t file for income taxes so no rebates that they would have coming. You don’t agree with this, of course it doesn’t fit your preconceived notions, but it is supported by facts, unlike what you just wrote.
My god what kind of hallucinogens have you been taking?
Will you be writing a commentary on it?
It will be very interesting to see your views on it. Apparently, there are hundreds and hundreds of people there right now.
I was surprised at such a number. What do you think?
Tax protesters in California have always been with us. Most are a humorless group . The don't believe in evolution as the haven't evolved so that absolutely proves Darwin was wrong
A lot of non conservative, working, single, young people are ticked off. Period.
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/came-brought-ken-2328216-others-john
According to the Orange County Register, 8,000 attended a John and Ken anti-tax Saturday rally in Fullerton, where John Kobylt said "The purpose [of the rally] is to tell people how their Republican legislators lie about their votes. The purpose is to get support to recall Schwarzennegger, (Assemblyman) Anthony Adams, (Assemblyman) Jeff Miller, and everybody else."
Thanks to the editor to the pick!
Thanks to Folkmuse for the additional background -- and especially for the reminder that the "tax revolt" began as a progressive movement on behalf of low and fixed income people -- that was later hijacked by conservatives on behalf of the super rich.
To Zum: The question, for me, isn't whether taxes are too high. I agree that they are. The question is who is paying the taxes.
During the Bush years, the super rich were given billions of dollars in tax breaks. In contrast, one of the first things Obama has done is to lower taxes for the middle class.
In California, due to Prop 13, the property tax rates are the same for all property, no what matter what kind or how used. In other words, the owner of a $600,000 home in Fullerton (where John and Ken just held their rally) pays the same tax rate as giant landlords or Disneyland.
Since these tax rates are set by the constitution, the legislature (whether Republican or Democrat) has looked elsewhere to raise funds -- so California has some of the highest income tax rates in the nation.
Also, the Republicans have always favored regressive taxes -- so California also has some of the highest sales and gasoline taxes in the country.
John and Ken are correct in calling the Republicans frauds when it comes to cutting taxes -- they've merely cut taxes for the rich.
I'm sure there were many, many more who would've liked to come back but couldn't.
I hope there will be more tax revolt rallies in other parts of the state.