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Salon.com
OCTOBER 15, 2009 7:20PM

NYSE Closes at 10,000. My stock Closes at Zero.

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      Fat cats                      homelessFamily-247x202

                   Lucky them.                                                        The rest of us.

 

Great news everybody! The NYSE closed at over 10,000 for the first time in over a year. Who said the bailout isn’t working? I’d say it’s working like a charm. What’s good for the stock market is good for America, right? After all, if the fat cats are making money then the left over crumbs from the feeding frenzy will filter down and create jobs for all the little people like you and me, right?

You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t feel all warm and fuzzy about Wall Street’s rebound and resounding success story. It’s recently been reported that many of the too big to fail firms that we bailed out with our taxpayer money are now set to pay out more in bonuses (think averages over $700,000) than they did the year before the big crash. That’s some nice work if you can get it.

 With Congress in their pockets passing laws that only benefit them, how can they lose? They are up to doing exactly what collapsed the market in the first place and they know that we will be forced to bail them out again if we have to. Sure they had a bad year, but look at them now. Talk about prosperity!

But this isn’t about them. It’s about me. It's about me and it's about you. While they had one bad year, my personal worth has gone down the crapper. How are you doing?

I’ve spent a lifetime in the construction industry and I’ve always enjoyed it. Being able to build thing and stand back at the end of the day and actually see your work always held a certain fascination and pride for me. Call me a simple man. I'm fine with that. In many ways I do hold high value for simple things, but that doesn’t make me simple.I know. It's complicated.

After all these years, I’m afraid that my own value in the industry that I've loved is approaching zero. I've come to realize that there is simply no future in construction for me.

In Florida we have three major industries. Agriculture, tourism and development. Agriculture is doing fine, though it is at the mercy and whims of mother nature. It's very mechanized, but there is low paying work for a few weeks during harvests. We had plenty of rain this year, but droughts or lengthy frosts can wreak havoc on crop productions.

Tourism, which includes the restaurant or hospitality industry is also at the mercy of the economic health of the rest of the nation. With staycations becoming the norm for families that are struggling to get by, tourism and hospitalities has suffered mightily.

But, development or construction has suffered the most of the three during this recession. I won’t get into the stories I‘ve heard, but I assure you they are dismal and I don’t see the industry rebounding anytime soon. That leaves me in a bit of a dilemma for an income.

People who work construction are used to project completions or other reasons for leaving a job. We rely heavily on a word of mouth network to find new work. That network has served many of us well for many years, but that network is now in total collapse.

Almost no one I know is working construction and if they are it's very sparingly. This puts more stress on other industries to pick up the slack in the labor market. A glut in the labor market, along with businesses collapsing at an alarming rate, only further forces or allows (depending on their stability) companies that do hire anyone to offer far lower than market wages as the economic death spiral continues.

I live on the boarder of two counties that have been growing for over fifty years. The unemployment rate in the county I live in is 11.6% while the other is at 12.1%. The next county over is above 13%. Not very promising for anyone living here.

Though real estate has bottomed out and sales are being made, most are at or below market value. New home sales are stagnant and those mostly include very high dollar houses for those in the upper income range who are were far less effected by the economy.

Statewide there are other issues. People used to migrate to Florida for cheap property and low taxes, though this is no longer true. National foreclosure numbers were up 5% in the past quarter. In Florida one in five homes is in some degree of foreclosure, so I don’t see us building many new homes anytime soon. If by the time the industry does recover, I will likely be too old to participate in the physical nature of the industry.

So the industry that I love is basically dead to me and many others. Since migrating to Florida some 27 years ago, I've seen a few recessions, but I can honestly say that I’ve never been out of work. During all that time, I’ve often wondered why those in power haven’t considered luring other industries to insure that we remain fiscally sound as a state. They are just now beginning to talk about diversity in Tallahassee. Way to stay ahead of the game, guys. Of course, I live in a Red Bubba state, so sucking the life blood from it’s less fortunate citizenry, all in the name of a quick buck, is a Congressional pass time. Long term stability is the folly of Democrats.

In Washington, the House recently passed a bill to the Senate that would extend unemployment benefits another 13 to 20 weeks to states that have unemployment rates higher than 8.5%. I need that money desperately, though I’d much rather be working. That money and a few crumbs from a side job here or there and I might be able to survive for a few more weeks. Republicans in the Senate blocked the bill claiming they wanted to look into extending benefits to states that fall below the 8.5% threshold.

I want to publicly thank them for that. Could they have possibly took that issue up at another time rather than allowing more Americans to be forced from their homes? A few weeks and a few dollars can be a sink or swim situation for many families. Nationally, things aren’t going much better.

Wall Street and Congress aren’t allowing anything to trickle down tot eh people. Nationally we've lost 96 small banks so far this year and there are over four hundred more in trouble. Many are only a few million dollars in the red, not billions. Small local banks lend money to grow small businesses which are the backbone of the economy. Where is their bailout? (I'll discuss government contracts that are aimed at small businesses that are finding their way into the hands of Fortune 500 companies in another post.You'll love that one.)

When these small banks fail, they are bought up by the already too large to fail banks, making them that much more too large to fail. One million homes will go into foreclosure this year. Over sixty percent of those caused by the rising cost of healthcare, yet those in Congress continue to fight reform.

It's my feeling that the American people are the most generous people on the planet, but few have the means to donate to domestic food banks anymore much less give to overseas charities. Over one billion people worldwide are now living on one meal a day or less. Across the planet, a child dies of starvation every six seconds , many of them right here on our own soil.

All the while, Wall Street continues to devours even more of the financial pie with what seems like complete impunity while the rest of us struggle for the ever shrinking crumbs that remains. It’s been over a year since the collapse and Congress has done little, if anything, to change the way Wall Street operates.

So I hope you will excuse me if I don’t celebrate the NYSE closing with over ten thousand shares traded, because I don’t see them sharing anything with anyone but themselves.

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This isn't a poor me post. I haven't hit critical mass yet. It's just something that bothers me greatly.
I agree. Now that it's been exposed for the ponzi scheme that it is, and with Goldman-Sachs running things, I'm not interested.
The disconnect between Wall Street and Main Street, and between the power brokers and the working people is worse than ever. Your post makes that clear and the situation here is the same.

Our village is pushing 15% unemployment. We are in the "poor" end of the county. In the "rich" end of the county unemployment is only 12%. And there is nothing on the horizon to change any of that. Nothing.

I will say that the Wall Street rebound can help some working people. Sue's retirement is in a 401K and she lost over 45% of its value in the last 15 months. That does not come out of our pocket but it puts a hell of a dent in her nest egg.

She has it all in a S&P 500 Index fund. And the S&P is rising about at the same rate as the Dow so she has now recovered to about 85% of where it was. That is a big help to us, and to other working people who have 401K retirement plans with their employers. In her case they match the 3% that she puts in, so she has a better than average employer.

Still, they are laying off right and left. So far Sue's seniority has helped but if it goes much longer she will be wondering if her job is at stake.

Monte
I always said that the unemployed and under-employed should have been bailed out before one cent was given to Wall Street. These times and political decisions frustrate me. ~R~
Deborah, I just want to know who to attack when the revolution begins. I have a pretty good idea.

Jane, I'm hoping with fingers crossed.

Monte, I hope the slide stops for you and sue. It's rare to stay with a company long enough down here to qualify for any benefits. I'm glad Sue's 401K is rebounding though. that's good news. I hope her job holds on, too.
Yes, I am actually happy the market is coming back up, as I had invested in stocks a couple years ago and lost more than half when they tanked last year. I left my money in, hoping it would come back up, rather than selling what I had last year and taking a 75% loss.
Now I'm at about 30-40% loss...much better than it was.
So YES I am happy about that.
I always said I could take all the other shit about working construction, but I could never get used to getting thrown out with the rest of the trash at the end of the job.
I'm an average person with an average savings and this is good news. Why do I feel selfish saying this?
Can't you just be happy for those rich folks who are getting richer. God, we unemployed are SUCH downers...
Chuck, I fell for the sky is falling tactics for the bailout, but it all happened so quickly, I didn't realize there were no safeguards in place. My life hasn't improved one iota since then. The stimulus is getting doled out in such small portions, I'm not feeling that either.

Spotted, sounds like you are on the rebound. Good for you.

Tom, That's about what it feels like, ain't it?

Mary, Don't feel bad because you are doing Okay. That isn't really my point. It's been a year now and it's time something is being done about creating some jobs. I've got another plan, but I'll have to wait for the Pulitzer voting. Or did that just happen?

Cappy, I feel like such a drain on the economy, how 'bout you?
This is a good thing but it's all like a nightmare and so many people involved! Good post, Mikey!
Michael, this might be a bit off-subject but as I read your essay, I kept thinking about some news I heard today. Right now there are about 43 foreclosures happening every minute in the United States.

Remember when the banks got into trouble, what did they do? Before they could be "foreclosed" on by going under, they begged for help and got it from the government. Now they are healthy and they are going after the little guy with a vengeance. Somehow it just doesn't seem fair. Maybe I am being naive or something, I don't know.
Reading this post, I came up with a great idea: Michael Rodgers for Secretary of Treasury. Believe me we can make enough noise, Obama will listen.

Clever as always, Michael.

Rated.
Great post Michael - no, I didn't feel good when I saw the number. Even if I still had money in stocks, which I don't (pulled it all out right before the crash - talk about winning a lottery of sorts), I wouldn't feel good.

Here's why - we'll be here again. Although, it will be worse and it will be our children or our grandchildren footing the bill. The system is flawed (in many ways, many of which you name). I don't agree with the argument that capitalism is evil, but the way it has been structured beginning in the late 1940s is where we start to see our woes.

The bailout without teeth sunk Wall Street America and with pundits running the fear factor of the country, more $ to borrow will not fly with conservatives (without more tax breaks for the rich).

Oh, they could always rely on the good war machine to bail us out...you know, what's a little human capital when it puts the American economy upright again?

You know, I am very sorry we are in the recession we are. My family is struggling - we are down to nothing. However, I am thankful for the wake up call it has provided. We are still RICH compared to 2/3 of the world even broke. We are reengaged in our citizenry in a way we haven't been for 50 years. It is my sincere hope we don't waste the opportunity.

Thanks for your great post Michael! My best to you and yours...
I'd boycott, but I'm already so broke that that is my lifestyle, anyway.
Mike I so relate to this post and to you in general. The thievery goes on. The polarization of the classes goes on. I wonder how Wall St. will feel when everything collapses? Party over I suppose.
My area is somewhat better off than yours and by luck or something I just got a good job. But it will last two weeks to a month depending on weather. After that? I have no clue... Dismal indeed
Torman, You aren't naive at all. What you say is happening. One out of four houses down here being sold are being bought by investors. They just waited until the prices hit rock bottom. I have a suspicion that that's why little is being done to help homeowners in distress.

Thoth, I'm flattered, but I doubt I could do anything but make a lot of noise. That's really all I do here. If Congress would listen to us instead of big money we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Pammy! Almost missed you! Many suffering and I don't claim to have any answers. I'm mostly just pissed and blowing off steam.

Kate, I do realize that those numbers are good. They just aren't good for many of us. Some are recouping great loses while others are getting filthy rich. I'm all for controlled capitalism, but it needs to be fair to all, not lopsided for the rich. I just don't see anyone doing that much for the little people. It's like the health care bill. It's getting watered down because there aren't any Senatoors that want a public option. It's a flim flam of smoke and mirrors, but at least it will be a start if it doesn't kill us financially first.
The good news is that people ARE engaged now. We have been setting on the sidelines and this is what happens when we don't pay attention. And Yes, as bad as I have it I realize that so many around the globe have it far worse.
A devastating famine is knocking on the door and we are making corn into gasoline instead of feeding the masses. There's just no money in hungry people. That really sucks.
Zuma, I hear you. I don't mind being poor. I just want to work. I don't have aspirations of becoming rich. If I could work I'd make it. I've never not been able to find a job. This is very new and not very comfortable. I never expected for construction to take a nose dive.

Trig, that's how I've managed so far. glad you found something even if it's temporary. When I worked for myself, I'd spend as much time unemployed as I did employed. At least it seemed that way. Every time you finish something, unless there is another job lined up, your down again. But the money's good when your working. Just keep plugging away. I just haven't had any crumbs in over two months. I need me some crumbs!
I feel your pain Bubba. No shit. The worst news of all today? Worse than the marketing hitting 10,000 while I have NO portfolio anymore? The average stock broker/financial advisor made more money this year than last due to all the losses and the re-purchases.

It makes me sick at my stomach. Hang tough bro, with your personality, youth and ability you will rule your kingdom soon if that's what you choose. Let's go over to O'bama (he's Irish now) and have a beer with him. Chat a bit. Want to? I'm buyin'!
well honey bunny.. i have been painfully unemployed since jan 19th.. no jobs here above the min wage level next town with any prospect of jobs is 100 miles away and it's a college shit hole where stupid is the new smart and they roam freely like free range morons.. WOOO Chico state..assholes.. did I just say that out loud.. if it weren't for my shitty unemployment checks I'd be out on I-5 with a cardboard sign "will kill your stupid for food " and a bottle of cheap hooch
If there's one thing we've learned in the past year, it's that the stock market does not reflect the true economy. Unemployment is high and probably will remain so for a long time. Paul Krugman has been warning us about the economy's dismal outlook, and I think he's absolutely right. The Dow means nothing, except to those who cashed out today.
This is just proof that Obama is the Anti Christ.
Au contraire Blevins. The instability in the market has been of a special sort in recent years. Normally financials remain stable when volatility is introduced. This time it was the financials which caused the volatility. The special problem with that is that financials are what investors call "the porch". That is where one can safely take defensive positions. The defensive positions were on fire for the past couple of years. The fact that the porch is stable means that investors can return to the market where they had left, and went into metals and mattresses previously. This is actually a very, very good thing. It can still improve, but profitability and stability to financial stocks if FAR from nothing.
My stock before the crash---$0 After----still $0. I've been doing really well in aluminum cans!!

;)
I am so with you on this. I came home today after a humiliating experience downtown and didn't feel poor me. But I did feel like I wanted to say fuck this a lot. So I wrote about the lobbyists that own the world ---who are standing right next to the guys you are writing about. You'e a construction guy. You BUILD things. I'm a teacher. I'm here to make sure the next in line are ready. And both of those things---and I know a lot of people in construction and they are hurting bad--both of those things are hurting while these dickheads have their little clapping ceremonies and ring bells and wear their 10,000 caps. F um all!
I agree because I have the same portfolio as you. But interns don't even get unemployment, which you do, which makes you a fatter cat than me or a lot of people who don't get it either. I think Congress should outlaw all Wall Street bonuses, or tax them at 200% and use the money for a WPA program to hire interns like me.
You nailed it with this one, Michael. You know what's worse than being unemployed in the construction industry? Being unemployed when you're SELF-EMPLOYED in the construction industry. You're not eligible for unemployment compensation.

I totally hear you and feel your pain. Our remodeling business is doing a bit better than it was this time last year, but it's still not enough to allow us to make ends meet sufficiently. Plus, we're so far down in the hole, I wonder if we'll live long enough to dig out. I just took on a third job to help improve cash flow. While I'm grateful that I was able to land a third job, I'm mad as hell that I need to work three jobs to survive. Did our parents have to work three jobs? Of course not! Why is it so hard for so many of us now?

If misery loves company, you've got plenty of it, my friend. At least we're not alone while we slowly drown.
I love when you go all ranty, Michael. As a fellow Floridian, I know that what you say is true. Well written. xoxo
I lost a lot of my meager money during this crisis so anything to turn it around is good. Great post though.
Blue, That's the part that just drives me nuts. These fat cats ran so many people out of the market which only allows them to get richer. Congress put no controls in place. To big to fail has to be eliminated and that includes big insurance. I'd love to meet Obama and have a little chat.

W&B, I've considered that sign thing. I've got a backup plan, but it won't take hold for a while. Loved the comment, though.

Steve, the Dow means nothing to me. Something has to be done for the little people, after all didn't we contribute to the building of this country, too?

Bill, I don't blame Obama at all. I'm still behind the guy and I know he inherited 99.9% of this mess. I also know that the obstructionism of the Repunks is slowing any reform. I'm just frustrated and under a lot of stress like so many others. I'm very willing to work, but hardly anyone is even buying pizzas right now.
I'm actually glad that stocks are up, but it means very little at the bottom of the heap. I should say that I love it when you chime in. You are one of the brightest people on OS and I always appreciate your input.

Tink, I have a can crusher and collected cans for four months and took them in. 20 pounds payed $5. So I got that going for me.

Roger, That's where I'm at right now. I just want to slap someone that had anything to do with this. In fact we should line them all up. It feels so much like they are getting rewarded for their roles in all of this and nothing has changed. Another big bubble is growing as we speak.

Noni, I'd hire you on a NY minute on your avatar alone. of course that's because you look so smart and not because I'm sexist.

Lisa, I remember you writing about having to pawn your wedding rings months ago. the frustration of knowing that none of this is your fault while those who are to blame are getting bigger bonuses than even is one very jagged pill to swallow. Only three jobs while raising a family? Honey, you gotta get with it that's all.

Touche, I could have really let loose, but tried to contain most of my feelings. I may go full fledged ballistic at a later date. I'm definetely boiling on the inside.
Penguin, I'm glad for you, Bro! Just keep hammering away if you've got something to hammer with and hammer on.
Michael, I admire your eloquence here and your attitude. I wish I could think of something more helpful to say other than "what you write sure makes sense to me"!
I'm feeling the bullish love.

I hate these fuckers. I really do. I can't BELIEVE they're getting bonuses. even BIGGER bonuses. In fact, I can't believe these rat bastards aren't in jail. why o why are they walking the street....wait..correction...WHY o WHYare these fuckwads riding around in limos????

feel the hate, folks. that's what I have .....pure, unadulterated opposite of loooooooove hate.
I am so glad you writing about this, Michael.
My mom works with builders. The banks summarily cut the builders off - builders who never defaulted on a loan, builders who did only affordable housing, which is desperately needed here. This is a $16 billion industry that was kneecapped simply because the banks decided to stop lending and save their money for their shareholders and employees. It has affected everyone in the industry, from partners to painters, and it affected the economy - that's $16b not in circulation. (The auto industry generates less than $17 million a year.) Builders who've finished their projects in the last three months have either sold or rented out every unit. They never operate at a loss and while they feel there are more that projects are feasible, the banks don't care - they are not lending. The banks screwed up with bad mortgages; the building industry had nothing to do with that, yet they are paying.

I think it was Brook Astor who said money is like manure - in a pile it stinks, but if you spread it around, things will grow. They tell us that the economy can't grow if everyone is not spending their money, yet here are the banks, not spending their money. I think it was a mistake for the government to lend money to the banks - they should have lent the money to the American people, who would have spent it, thus moving the economy along. Look at those programs that put money in the hands of those who spent it - the cash for clunkers program, the rebate for first time home buyers - those programs worked. Money to the banks = money to the banksters. The only other place I've seen any government funds working has been the roads. Imagine if the government decided to use their money to fix or build new schools or other public places.
Michael, I think you misunderstood me. I said I "didn't think the numbers were good." At all. I think they are near pointless the way that capitalism is currently structured (the debauchery began approx. in 1950).

We, being my family, lucked out in the sense that we pulled our money out right before the crash (total fluke). My husband is unemployed and I am unable to work right now. I am in your boat. He has an MBA and 20 years experience, including 9 at one as a Director in which he left to do consulting (and then the crash). Job prospects are not any hotter here. We are scared, yet, hopeful. The emotional paradox right now. It is hard to watch the news...I watch C-span mostly so I can hear it from the horses mouth...not with journalistic bias.

I was trying to add the 50,000 foot view in terms of what I hope can be done, a reshifting. Since Bill brought up Obama, I don't think any one here is bashing him. It is my hope he will fine this "gray" in capitalism and set us upright again. If anything, return us to our roots before the checks and balances were taken out.

I think he, along with congress, did not do us a service when they passed the bailout without the necessary teeth or enough stimulus for job creation. Now the Repubs and pundits are harping on "debt", part of a capitalist model when there is ROI (i.e. job creation), scaring Americans. They want them focused on the 10K number hoping this will bamboozle us. I for one, am not bamboozled. On principle, I will not put money back in the stock market. I don't care if that means I don't get rich. At least I know I'm not financing this Ponzi scheme called America now.

I misspoke before when I said, "The bailout without teeth sunk Wall Street America". I meant, "Main Street America."

Prayers for us all!
Pilgrim, Thanks for the kind words, my friend. I will survive this mess. so many have it worse by far. I had to go th Walmart for dogfood today and it about killed me to pass an lady and an old man in a wheelchair with a cardboard sign, Need Help is all it said. I didn't have five buck to give them. That's what really hurts. When you can't even help others worse off.

NoFrills, You Devil you, I hope those people choke on their money. Unlimited gall. I hate them, but I blame Congress for the bail out. They haven't been looking out for us for decades and I'm just so sick of it. Writing about it helps, but it ain't putting any jingle in my tin cup.

Marcel, I didn't know all of that about the construction industry. No wonder all the jobs disappeared. I wonder how many the put out of business with that maneuver. They are killing us at every turn. It's almost like this whole thing is planned.

Kate, I think I was thrown off by main/wall street thing. I wouldn't spend a nickel making any of them rich. I'm surprised there is any confidence with that group at all. I think most of the little people are out of the market. Only fat cats left, though I don't know that for sure.
I think Obama's valiant yet, failed attempt at bipartisanship is a mistake, but the blue dogs are just as bad. I don't know how anything gets done. Well I guess nothing really is getting done. At least not for us at the bottom.
We voted for change in Congress, but we keep getting more of the same. Until we get the corporate money and the lobbyists out of there, I see little hope in reeling in Wall Street or any of the rest of them. Still, we must continue to fight as best we can. On line petitions and letter writing is the best I can do because I can only leave the house to go to the grocery store.
I just applied for food stamps today for the first time in my life. I tried before but had unemployment coming in so I was denied. Some states allow you to collect both, but not the red state I live in.

Thanks for listening Kate and do soldier on. We'll all make it somehow.
Raw Story has a post about your man in Fla., check on it... Unemployment, Bogus bonus $, and a new Health reform push, that will earn the capitalist pigs over one trillion... When do we begin to hold those responsible for this mess accountable? History holds many lessons my friend... People choose to ignore fact, you know it all too well, as do I... Comes down too, how tight ya' can hold on... Hope and change, who knew? I'm for a little action please! RRR
Patrick, I'll go check out Raw Story right now. I'd also like to see a little action of some kind, too. The more I learn the more I hate the way things are.
Yes, and there is something ominous about the Dow going up. If the stock market does not reflect the economic health of the country, it can only reflect another costly, painful bubble. Very accurate post.
time to start lining the bankers up against the wall
Free market capitalism in America: "Socializing losses and privatizing gains...." The beat goes on......
They always have construction going up here. The weather sucks, but there is work in Chicago. (I'm not sure how it works though- I mean, if you have to know someone)

and yeah, the market going up does me no good either- my retirement stocks all got pulled for the downpayment on our townhouse. Mainly we are just lucky I was anal about getting a fixed mortgage (with Karen's credit not mine, mine possibly might have gotten us a trailer, but only if we could have paid cash for it) We plan on selling soon, and neither one of us will get back anything of what we have put into it over the last 5 years, although we might not owe, which is good. Divorce is just a barrel of fun on all sides :p