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Mick Arran

Mick Arran
Location
Portsmouth, New Hampshire, USA
Birthday
January 05
Bio
I've done everything from recycling to teaching in a pre-school. Most recently I was for 10 years an acting and theater teacher as well as a pallet builder. I read a lot and I'm an old man who remembers the distant past with somewhat more clarity than this morning's breakfast. I've been blogging for a decade and I don't do "light". If you're looking for recipes, self-promoting displays of items made for sale, titillating stories about how I was a pimp for an afternoon, or the beauties of toasters, you've come to the wrong place. Check the Front Page.

SEPTEMBER 26, 2010 3:55PM

Third Parties: Not Just for Fun Any More

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At Norwegianity, Mark Gisleson thinks we have to vote Democrat. The argument he makes is weak but it's the only one there is.

They [Republicans] want us tired. They want to create outrage fatigue so we'll stay home on November 2. Fuck you if you don't vote this year, and fuck you twice if you don't vote for Democrats (with very few Blanche Lincolnesque exceptions).

It's not a vote for Obama or the stunted solutions of the Wall Street enabled moderates. It's a vote to kill off the idiocy once and for all. Until the 20% hard right is discredited and humiliated, they will continue to be the "he" in he said/she said.

This amounts to little more than the fluff-diving fear-mongering David Axelrod piled on Susie Madrak the other day. David Dayen reports Axelrod this way: (Links via Avedon)

Axelrod tried to bring Madrak in on common goals. "Let me say this. I really believe this is the most consequential time in our lifetime… We are in a struggle, we are in a fight. We don't have to agree, but we all have to lock arms and move forward here."

He then pivoted, kind of making it sound like both sides need to lower the temperature. "Saying we shouldn't be involved in intramural skirmishes, I couldn't agree more. And that goes on both sides… I'm not lecturing you, I'm speaking to everyone involved on our side. There are big things at stake here. The nature of progressive thought is that we go at it, we trade ideas, and that's as it should be. But we have to come together."

In other words: "SCARY SCARY REPUBLICANS!!!!! SCARY!!!!!!!!"

And so they are. But it's an argument of last resort, a motivation of last-ditch situationalism made of pure desperation. "Here we are. We've got no choice." Here's the problem, in Mark's own words:

Don't blame Obama, don't blame Congress. Vote because it's the only meaningful tool you or I have for fixing things. Vote like you had a real choice because if you don't, you'll never have any real choices ever again.

Mark wants to believe it isn't too late, but of course it is. This is Bush's DirCIA, Michael Haydenin an interview talking about Obama's slavish support and even expansion of Cheneyism: (viaWilder Side )

"For example, the American policies on renditions - the same. The American policies of taking the fight to the enemy, taking the leadership off the battlefield, continues. Indefinite detention of detainees continues. Military commissions continue to be in effect. 

"State secrets has been invoked as much by President Obama's administration as by President Bush's administration in order to protect those things that are legitimately secret," Hayden said. "He's pushed back on extending the right of habeas corpus to prisoners that we hold at the Bagram Air Base in Afghanistan. These are all good things, all continuity."

As my mother used to say, that train left the station an hour - or in this case, months - ago. Obama is a Blue Dog establishment conservative and a friend to banksters, CEO's, Big Pharma, and totalitarian lovers everywhere. Here's "Cheney worshiping neocon headcase David Rivkin" (Digby).

The government's increasing use of the state secrets doctrine to shield its actions from judicial review has been contentious. Some officials have argued that invoking it in the Awlaki matter, about which so much is already public, would risk a backlash. David Rivkin, a lawyer in the White House of President George H. W. Bush, echoed that concern.

"I'm a huge fan of executive power, but if someone came up to you and said the government wants to target you and you can't even talk about it in court to try to stop it, that's too harsh even for me," he said.

These are not the acts of a man even marginally liberal politically. The hard, cold fact is that the people Buckminster Fuller used to call Great Pirates now run both political parties in America and there is no way they're going to give it up voluntarily, nor, clearly, are the New Democrats going to change their stripes and suddenly actually become progressives (rather than simply sounding as if they have during elections) now or in what's left of our future.

A corrollary fact is that Mark's assumption (that murdering TPers and GOoPerts at the polls means destroying their political power) is little more than fantasy. The reality is much simpler: the New Democrat party will simply obey the dictates of the corporate pirates who own them and begin absorbing the exact same ideas, give them "respectability", and then make them law as the GOoPerts could never do. The ideas are there because the filthy rich & greedy want them to be there, and they are just as willing to buy BD's as TP's. BD's, for their part, have proved themselves just as willing to be bought, and so the game will go on.

I will admit that Mark is right for this election, but only this one. The New Democrat party is a lost fucking cause and the sooner we realize it, the sooner we can begin creating an actual alternative. And for you chickenshit libs still scared of Ralph Nader, grow the fuck up. The rest of the country is almost there while you're still waffling about whether to wear a red shirt because Sean Hannity might decide it proves you're a Commie and a DFH.

Americans' desires for a third political party are as high as they have been in seven years. Fifty-eight percent of Americans believe a third major political party is needed because the Republican and Democratic Parties do a poor job of representing the American people. That is a significant increase from 2008 and ties the high Gallup has recorded for this measure since 2003.

(emphasis added)

58 fucking percent, OK? Got it? The New Democrat party is making it easy for us. So sure, go vote New Dem this year to lock out the bugshit crazy Right and then get off your ass and start going to Green Party meetings and Socialist Party get-togethers and talk to your friends and neighbors about forming a Progressive Party in your area. Because if you ain't ready to take down the Dems by '12, you'll deserve every ass-reaming the New Democrats treat you to after that.

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We gotta stop acting like we think the New Democrat slime are, like, gonna come to their senses any day now and turn over a new leaf or something. I mean, come on.
" the New Democrat party will simply obey the dictates of the corporate pirates who own them and begin absorbing the exact same ideas, give them "respectability", and then make them law as the GOoPerts could never do. The ideas are there because the filthy rich & greedy want them to be there, and they are just as willing to buy BD's as TP's. BD's, for their part, have proved themselves just as willing to be bought, and so the game will go on."

That about covers it. The GOP/TP candidates are on average more loathsome than the Dems, but it's a matter of degree, not of kind. I'm all for supporting a genuine third party alternative in 2012; as you say, the reaming we got from Obama and his congreess the last couple years is little different than the one we got from Dubya during his wonderful time at the helm.
I really think now that an energized Third Party is the only legitimate course left if we don't want to end up in a Rollerball society.