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JULY 6, 2008 11:24PM

The Death Penalty, Up Close and Personal

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My grandfather, James Milton Holman, whom I never knew, was shot and killed August 12, 1925. He was a corrections officer at the Oregon State Prison in Salem, Oregon. Four convicts broke into the prison armory, took guns, and started shooting.

My grandmother, who lived to be 94 years old, told me the details. My grandfather wasn't scheduled to work that day, but another guard was sick. As my grandfather left for work that morning, he and my grandmother talked about what to have for dinner. Grandma didn't remember what was to be on the table that night, but she remembered clearly that the last words he spoke to her on his way out the door was "make plenty of gravy." A few hours later she heard sirens at the prison.

He was stationed on the prison wall. One convict shot him in the leg and he fell to the ground, at which point another convict blew his head off with a shotgun. Another guard was killed and another wounded.

One convict was killed during the escape. The other three were arrested afterward, convicted of murder, and sentenced to death. One convict committed suicide before the sentence was carried out.

After the murder, my father, who was 15 years old at the time, had to drop out of school to help support the family. There wasn't any "workers compensation" at that time. He spent the next 50 years working as a low-paid cook and bartender. He was an alcoholic, a falling-down drunk, but quit drinking cold turkey three months after I was born because he didn't want his son to have an alcoholic father.

Grandma told me that before the other two convicts were executed, the governor of the State of Oregon heard a rumor that she wanted clemency for them. She had a meeting with him. I asked her "what did you say to the governor?"

Grandma Holman, always a woman of few words, replied "I said hang 'em."

And they were.

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America was a tough place back then. It'll be that way again soon. There are hard times coming.
That must be why the Sixth Amendment provides for an impartial jury.
I think that it is possible to behave so heinously that you can lose your right to partake in the social contract with others. I struggle with the death penalty, but not because of the people that deserve it. I think there are people that are just broken, so much so that I don't want to deal with, house, or come face to face with them. I believe that killing them is more humane than putting them in a box for 40 years or life.

The problem is that juries are made up of humans, judges also fail, and people presenting the evidence are sometimes incompetent. Sometimes the sentence is falsely applied to innocent people. And sometimes the sentence changes from one year to the next. Until we solve this problem, we have to stop implementing the ultimate punishment, state sanctioned murder.

Until we have perfect justice, we can't require perfect punishment.
I agree with what ePriddy said, considering the faiibilty of us as humans, of them as convicts, I have a hard time convicting someone to death with imperfect odds. Yet, in our society, ive people incapable of reformation. No easy answerts exist nor do inexpensive ones. But I do think the death penalty is barbaric however warranted. We as a people cannot sink to their level of violence, cannot debase ourselves. We as a people need to take the high road and envision a better us (yes, I know I am dreaming here but if I lose my dreams, I lose myself).

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Until we have perfect justice, we can't require perfect punishment.

That's about as well as I've heard it put. The law of karma prohibits the death penalty, but people have a hard time understanding it.
You've heard the expression, "hanging is too good for them"? I so agree with that. I've got a friend in prison right now. Every day at a specified time, I think about her and what she must be doing.

I think about how she has been dehumanized from day one. I think about her presenting her small, delicate wrists to the guards who must handcuff her to take her from one place to another when she's out of her cell. I think about the line on the floor she is made to walk. I think about how she can't communicate with anyone on the outside without somebody listening in, reading her mail, censoring anything they don't like. And most of all I think about concrete block walls, just 6 feet wide and 10 feet long, with a steel door at the end.

Capital punishment? It's over so fast it's no worse than getting a flu shot. The rest of your life in a cage? That is far worse.
Supporting the death penalty is hypocritical at the most base level. "Killing is wrong! If you do it, we'll kill you!". It would be better if prison were a rehabilitative rather than punishing force, but the fact that it isn't doesn't make murder selectively OK.
Getting caught up on my reading. Great post and thoughtful comments.