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APRIL 2, 2009 10:22PM

Gang or Congregation?

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      During my talkative AP Psychology class, we talked about conformity.  My teacher asked us about gangs and what's the first thing we think of when we hear the word gang.  One girl in particular, lets call her "V" automatically said violence, guns, fighting, shooting, drugs... The list goes on.  When I think of gang, I think of family, protection, representation, and territory.  Obviously, our views and connections are different.

      V is a very patriotic white girl.  Nothing against that, but very much opposite of me.  I am very much connected with gangs.  I'm not in one, but I have many friends who are.  My best friend is in a gang.  I'm against violence and he know's that.  But I also know, he has no family, at least any that will give him the time of day to care.  His family is the gang. It's his protection.

      My teacher commented that gangs are groups of people.  They gather and have the same beliefs.  She then said, "Do you consider churches gangs?"  V quickly said, "No its a congregation."  I then asked her, why can't gangs be a congregation?  She didn't have a good explanation, just "there's a different, I just can't explain it."  Right...

      "What about the army?  Are they a gang?"  My teacher asked.  "No, they protect us and fight for good."  Said V.  "So Iraq is good?"  Asked Josh.  "Gangs have territory.  Once you cross it they will confront you.  Countries have territory."  I said.  "Yet we go over there and do what we want..."  Started Josh.

   "Exactly."  I said.  "Once someone comes into our land, we have major issues.  Yet we can go into anyone's place and do what we want!"

  "It's the government that controls that."  Said V.

   "Then the government is the gang?"  Asked Miss.

   "Yes!"  Yelled Josh and I.

    My point is, is there a difference between gang and congregation?  May it be a group, gang, or congregation, they all have their own beliefs.  May it be violent or non-violent.

Gang=Congregation

Go figure...

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Interesting two posts. I'm listening....
Very interesting post. I've been thinking about this myself because youth gang-culture is a developing problem inner-city here. I see it as replacing the traditional parish-tribalism of Irish sports (GAA clubs). The problem is people don't see it like that; they reflexively abhor the gangs because of the fighting, the violence and the group-identity which is based upon exclusion. But if these kids wore GAA shirts in local colours there would be no problem and the behaviour would be supported - and expressed mostly on the pitch (football ground), of course! Outside of the GAA pitch, no rules apply to these youths, unfortunately, except adolescent rebellion and the gang's structure. With no other coherent viable 'family' unit within which to work through adolescence, many cling to their gang identity and the gang functions as family. You give me hope in the stability you describe in your experience.
i love this. it's a really interesting thing to think about. countries fighting is a lot like gang wars. your writing is charming, sweetheart. so it's possible to know gang members but not have to join a gang. tv and such always play that as impossible. but so much that's portrayed is incorrect.

love love love and gratitude and off to read the post before this one.
Excellent examination of definition, identity, and how people discern groups.
Provocative title of a fascinating post about the striking differences between how two people can perceive the same word. OK, enough adjectives. I'm off to read more of your stuff...
I love this and want to quote it a million times. May I?