Americans don't like grief. they like winners. they like fighters. they like things that make them happy and smiling and on top of the world and the best and the brightest...
anything that makes them sad or uncomfortable is against the concept of life, liberty and (the pursuit of) happiness.
they like to spoonfeed platitudes that would be best left to bad bumperstickers and torn t-shirts that have been turned into dust rags. here are some of my favs:
God needed a new angel in heaven so he took your daughter.
I know just how you feel: my dog died last year and he was just like a child to me.
Time heals all wounds. (just don't take too long.)
Since she was sick for so long, at least you had time to say goodbye to her. I mean, it's not like it was a shock or something.
You still have your son.
She is with Jesus now. That should make you happy!!
You wouldn't want her back sick and all, would you? Only a selfish person would want that.
My father just died at 87...it is hard to lose someone, isn't it.
It's been 4 years now. Don't you think it's time you moved on?
Why do you think you aren't healing the way you should?
Now, I'm only saying this for your own good, but I really think you are letting this get to you too much.
You have good memories. They should make you happy.
the list goes on ad nauseum. (all of them are direct quotes.)
one problem with mourning your child is you remind those around you that OMG! IF IT HAPPENED TO THEM IT COULD HAPPEN TO US! and that is some scary shite. people you thought were friends begin inching away from you soon after diagnosis. by the time your child is gone so are they. they have distanced themselves so that it is easier for them to resort to the above mentioned garbage.
i am quiet by nature. neither passive nor meek, just quiet. but after caitie died i wanted nothing more than to keen and wail, shave my head and share some of the anguish and unspeakable pain with the world, let it know how damaged i felt. i didn't, but they didn't want it anyway. and to have lost her after 5 long, hard years was unbearable. as a parent, you never allow your mind to go there, to acknowledge it might happen. you can't. all your strength is needed for support for spinal taps, bone-marrow aspirations, painful shots, port infections, 108 degree fevers, peripheral neuropathy...the list is endless. when it's over, all your adrenaline is gone also and you are exhausted to the point of mummification. there is just nothing left but sorrow and a sense of failure: surely if i had only tried harder i could have saved her!
and YES! i'd have her back any way i could get her. i'd take her sick and fight by her side again in a New York minute.
grief is considered something to be cured in our society. it is not to be tolerated. 'Life goes on' and you'd damn well better be ready to get on with it or the world is determined to fix you. never mind that your life as you knew it is so changed that you don't even recognise it any longer. you sleep with pain, wake to it, eat with it...the emptiness makes your arms ache to hold her, your breasts ache when you remember nursing her. you relive the last moments over and over and over. you cloak yourself in guilt because it only makes sense if someone takes responsibility and often the only one who will is you. so you do it.
perhaps your marriage will survive, but probably not. the statistics are not good. even if it does, it too will be changed because you are both now different. if you have other children you are torn between being so stricken that you can hardly take care of them and being terrified that something will happen to them also.
no one will even mention her name. again, it isn't for your sake as much as it makes them uncomfortable. when you mention her, they shuffle their feet and talk about getting drinks or some such nonsense. later they don't even bother with platitudes much any more. other than the ones about it being x-number of years and it's time you gained closure...then they quickly scurry off to call their own children who are alive and well.


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seriously, people just can not, will not understand what we go through, simply because they don't care, and they don't care because they believe it doesn't affect them.
Until it does
And they find themselves even more shattered than those of us who realize that bad stuff happens and we have to prepare for it as best we can.
And in the meantime, "fuck'em and feed'em fish guts" :-) ~HUGS~
The next person that says, "Everything happens for a reason" is going to have a large, scruffy Irishman wailing into their breast. That'll teach 'em.
A pain without end.
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Great post, rated.
In some strange sync I just unpacked my old tools, my oldest Vigor rosary pliers. Leftover bits and pieces from 20 years ago as a wholesale jewelry designer. How funny. My hands were so clumsy, I forgot how much control and focus to get tiny things right, squeeze gently, leave no tool mark. Create beauty. It's somehow soothing that if it's not right, it's so easy to fix a "thing", it's one thing I can fix when I can't fix my hurt. I'm putting together an assortment of pieces, nothing costly, no more than sterling or GF, just lovely things. I'm sending them to my cousin who lets me hurt. I can say anything, she's my no platitude sister who just sits beside me, I can do anything but try to completely destroy myself, and I have. One day she'll open a box with pretty things, I've been scouring to incorporate "vintage". She gets to be the giver and the decider. She can keep 20 or so pieces or give it all away. She can choose who gets what or let them choose. I'm only asking her they be given freely away. If someone wants to pay they can donate to charity or not, she can't tell them any of this, they will be their own decision makers. She will not be responsible for them, only her own giving. She gets to keep or give as she wishes. I can't wait to hear the stories she's going to tell me. I think I'm going to get more than she is out of it. In this way I have a little control, I get to be a bit of the giver and decider too. Some days it's the best I can hope for, finding happiness in letting someone else have all the joy and just sitting there beside them.
I wish with all my heart I had something to offer that would take away your pain. All I can do is sit here with you too.
I am with you 100% and I know that anger. After losing my son, if I heard "She is with Jesus now. That should make you happy!" from one more person I was going to go off on them. Really.
Americans have an allergy to grief. It may be widespread, but we're one of a few cultures who actually tries to hide death. What, do we think we are going to escape it by not admitting it happens?
Your observation about friends saying stupid shit and falling away because it mirrors their own worse fears is right on. I can attest to that.
It's March. My son would be 18 this month. I feel you all the way through. Love to you.
After my child died in 1974, I stopped speaking. People tiptoed around me like they didn't even see me anymore. But they never said her name outloud.
In 1992, after my car accident and I lost my ability to walk, the people at church where I was a member, gave me 6 months to grieve. Then people wondered why I wasn't adjusting. They thought it was the wheelchair that wasn't modern enough.
They just don't get it.
Loosing someone or a part of your body changes you forever.
Great post. Rated.
Kim
But I will add, PFFFFFFFFT!!! to those people who say such things as "It's been 4 years now. Don't you think it's time you moved on?" Actually I say to them, "F&*k YOU!!!" *nodding*
That was your daughter, your flesh and blood, not some puppy dog. We're not suppose to outlive our children and they're not suppose to die, not as children, not so young, yes, it's a shock and will be for a very long time, if it will ever leave you.
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"I know just how you feel: my dog died last year and he was just like a child to me."
I am not sure what happens to people that they are so alienated from other humans that they can not differentiate between the death of a pet and the tragic death of a young human family member. We have lost our ability to empathize and go deep in grief with others - to hold them close when they are in severe pain that we can not make better - just be there with them and let them do the talking.
The person who made the dog comment got angry with me when I told her it wasn't the same...people close themselves off for fear of living and feeling - and dogs can't talk back and disabuse these people of their illusions.
I cannot imagine your grief and your outrage at losing your daughter. I cannot imagine it. I believe with my whole heart that there is no expiration date on grief. I wish there was something I could do. I'm listening.
Your rage will come out here. It will. And you are preparing us for that with posts like this. And there are many here who will be here for you when that happens. We're here.
much love to you today
I followed DOC MD AMY who rated you. Great!
I love your K-avatar. In the past rural area villages.
The graveyard was a Place where communities met.
Community is pretty much extinct because of greed.
Plutocrats make land preservation an impossibility.
They poison Land, Rx pills # greed - over medicate.
Big PHARMS lure, make ill, and prescribe poisons.
Price Gougers fake "care-quacks" defile everything.
In the past a wood coffin may be constructed early.
A well-made burial coffin stored lace and memory.
People lived the rural life with a sense of eternity.
Grief. Grieve well. I read grief is a alabaster box.
If we grieve properly, the Grief changes. Benefit.
Transform. You will later 'minister' compassion.
Once grief is complete - you assist the community.
Empty-handed we all came to this same Good Earth.
We came naked. We entered this crazy world barefoot.
It's in the coming - the going--
Two simple happenings occur--
Don't be deceived and be entangled.
Most people aren't your friend - they're just friends of how you make them feel. Selfish creatures we are. (Don't know why I just channeled Yoda there...)
Fuck Jesus! He can be happy to welcome somebody else home! I want my wife back any fucking way I can have her. Besides she didn't care for JC that much in the first place so that isn't something she'd have wanted. She's probably STILL standing in front of the pearly gates telling god to get his butt out there so she can chew his ass.
I also don't want to hear all of the "in time you will" bullshit. When some one is your soul and your one great love there will never be enough time to make it better. BTW, who the fuck wants to make it better like that. All time will do is blurr the memory and that is the last thing I want. I want to remember her fucking crystal clearly.
Oh I get the anger alright. I'm feeling it right now as a matter of fact. But I try to keep it in and keep a civil tongue in my mouth even though it's hard. I'm doing this because most of the people here DO care and MY anger isn't really at them it is at having lost her and not being able to do a fucking thing about it.
There are a lot of tremendously kind and open-hearted people on this site. I hope you will be able to give free vent to your feelings here without fear of reprisals or admonishments.
Take as long as you need, dear. And write what your heart feels without fear.
xoxo
Kim
How can you be happy you're sad? Or sad you're happy? It's like thinking you're wrong. You can't. Only that you were or may be wrong, not are wrong.
Having said that, don't paint Americans with a broad brush. We are a compassionate people for the most part and a religious group compared to the rest of western civilization. So the platitudes do sometimes come from a profound place of Faith, believing your daughter is okay where she is now. For those who tell you move on, tell them to f*** off [in the nicest possible way, of course.]
Of course you will always love, mourn, grieve Cait. That is your right and your necessity. Not everyone can understand that though it is hard to understand why not.
I'll continue to read, and pray for you to have some good times with hubs and son. Live as you know she would want you to. (((hugs))))
...but...is it what you want to say and how you want to say it?
..or do you feel like breaking something?
I'm sure you stirred some hearts with your words. You touched mine intimately.
I wrote a poem for my daughter, a poem about how her life touched me from the day she was born. I hope you can find something there that brings a little happiness to touch you.
LadyDusk...
@studman: we've already talked about this. i will fuck 'em and feed 'em fish guts when necessary. *hugs*
@juli: there is joy; it is just always tinged with sorrow now. we need family to speak of our children, but few do. my marriage is intact because we want it to and we work at it. and we love each other. thank you so much for caring.
@scylla: if you need a short irish lass to help, just call me. i know the feeling well. stay strong, friend. that includes being strong enough to let the tears flow.
@thoth: yes, i think we have lost something. we no longer recognize the necessity of grieving, of just hunkering down to walk thru the fire. thank you so much. i value your comments highly.
@stellaa: 'No one wants us to ooze.' YES! i read that line and shouted YES out loud. that is it exactly. no one wants the messiness. thank you for that one sentence alone.
@l'Heure Bleue: just sitting with someone is usually the best thing there is. i have been working on chaine maille jewelry; it is something that takes a lot of concentration and makes me think of other things. creativity is always good, no? thank you.
@sparking: please accept my sorrow at the loss of your boy. it is a unmapped path we walk. the friend thing shocked me. i have always been street smart but very naive. love to you.
@kfujioka: you have had 2 terrible losses...a child and the ability to walk. it is terrible that anyone put a timeframe on your grief. i am sorry.
@Tinkerertink69: thank you for your righteous anger, my dear. it makes me feel good.
@Leonde Delmare: when i was typing the 'dog' one i got all pissed again. it blew my mind. the person was so serious. i have no doubt the person loved their dog. but to compare it to the loss of a child was just nonsensical. i don't even want someone to go deeply into my grief; i just want a decent, common sense 'i'm sorry' without them putting time limit or other platitude that makes THEM feel better on it. thank you so much.
@scanner: thank you for reading. i always value your input.
@eric: you are spot on. americans NEED to feel everything is dandy even when the house is on fire. anything else is considered...well, un-american. thank you so much.
@peppermint: thank you. it is helping me get some demons under control.
@Joan H.: you read my attempts to get some demons under control. you do not judge. for that i thank you.
@CrazeCzar: my comments are not aimed at anyone here or anywhere else in the internet community. they are aimed at people in real life. family member. friends. strangers who overhear me talking to someone and feel they know how to make it better. i have always received nothing less that 100% understanding from those on the 'net. that is the truth. it is family and so-called friends that we should be able to count on that have no idea how to deal with those of us who mourn out children.
@wakingupslowly: i get strength from your post. they make make me feel brave, too. love to you.
@Firestorm McGrew: thank you. you are right.
@Kyle Dykman: oh kyle! you dear, dear person! you have hit the nail on the head! i cannot tell you how much it means for the world to know that our child lived. a few months ago a girl that first visited cait when she was first dx'd, a classmate, posted on her memorial site. she had just found out that caitie had passed. she is devastated. but just her writing on cait's site made me so happy that someone remembers my girl! that is why when family members and friends don't mention her name it hurts so much. love to you, friend.
@Art James: "if we grieve properly the grief changes'. this is so true. thank you.
@fernsy: yep. psychobabble makes me want to puke. thanks, hon.
@dirndl skirt: 'You will find your daughter's best qualities in you, becoming part of you.' it's funny you said this, because i've always felt that when i carried her, she winnowed out my bad parts and kept the good parts of me, sifting through. thank you for your comments.
@ Ann Nichols: thank you so very much.
@OEsheepdog: thank you. you are right about the fear.
@Liberal Southern Democrat: it may be just your opinion, but it is all correct. thank you.
@Harry's Ghost: yoda is always appropriate. thank you.
@Safe_Bet's Amy: i am so sorry for the loss of your wife. see studman's comment above re: the stupid comments. stay as strong as you are able.
@Unbreakable: i am using this writing 'stuff' as self therapy. the feedback and encouragement is invaluable tho, as i've tried blogging before but it is just too lonely. the people here have been very supportive. like you. thank you.
@suzie: 'like the moon always in the sky and lemons always sour'. that is so lovely. and the writing is helping. thank you.
@Snoreville Headinlocker: perhaps i should have said 'tolerate'. unfortunately, grief is a part of life because death is a part of life. it's just the way it is.
Deborah Young: in my experience of 4 long hard years now, as i've described it is how it has pretty much been. as far as people who are sincerely happy that cait is now in heaven, believe me, when it is your child you want to be holding, smelling, listening to...it is not comforting. it just isn't. i do not doubt their sincerity and do not wish to insult anyone, but i don't want her anywhere but with me, going on to college, falling in love, getting married and having children one day. i do appreciate your thoughts. thank you.
@irish colleen in green: i am trying to live as cait wants me to. i keep telling her she needs to be patient with me. thank you.
@J D Smith: AHA! you have sussed me out, jd. it is much more civil than i feel. i DO want to break something. smash something. it just is not ready to come out yet. the gods help me when it does...you are one smart cookie. thank you.
@Bonnie Russell: bonnie, there are still days i am amazed the world is still turning, the seasons changing. it does not seem right or fair. i know it has to happen, but still. thank you so much.
@TheBarkingLot4: what a perfect little response. thank you. thank you.
if i have missed anyone, blame it on the PTSD. again, thank you all for your time in commenting. i appreciate it very much.
I don't want to detract from your pain but this post brought me to another mother who lost her daughter. She wrote an op-ed in the NYTimes after her beloved only was killed in that Lockerbie air crash. For some reason, she touched me so deeply that I wrote her. To my amazement she wrote back. She said that the grief counselors made it worse, that no one understood this pain of her was FOREVER. Then I could feel her rage, though it wasn't directed at me, it was boiling inside her. And her writing, handwriting, showed that however long she had been grieving it would not be over anytime soon or ever. I never forgot that. That she took the time to get her rage at everything about that crash out on paper. I hope it helped her just as I hope this post does register for enough of us so you will feel a teeny bit less alone at least for an hour or so. Sad! Unfair! rated.
The pain becomes more bearable, but it never leaves. I'd be worried if it did. When you truly love someone, that love doesn't "heal", it simply has a new place in reality. Your daughter's memory is precious because it means something to you, don't let anyone take that from you. Grieve however you need to for however long you need to for your own health and acceptance. A 5-year emotional, mental, and physical battle can be a lot to recuperate from.
Rated: By the Official Kilgore Trout of Open Salon.
Btw, I love the list of what people said to you, am adding it to mine. Whenever we can, no matter how well-meaning those asses were, we have Got to laugh.
When I do let my imagination go there, when I ask "what if that was me?" I want to run. Let my mind run away as fast as it can. So while the platitudes are insulting and hurtful, they come from ignorance. Willful ignorance, because if I willingly went there, I'd drown.
I am so sorry for your loss. I am sorry for your pain. And I'm sorry for our crappy culture that can't deal with anything that takes more than five minutes. We want to cure things, to put a bow around things, make things better, and "move on." The trouble is, it doesn't work. Some things can't be fixed quickly or ever.
Thank you for your writing.
Why can't we allow each other just to be, however that happens to be? Why can't we allow each other to be true to our own feelings and to the rhythms of our own lives? Is no one patient enough to let us be ourselves and find our own way, to listen to our own hearts?
I would just add that when I lived in England I trained to be a counsellor. During that time I trained in a volunteer organization called CRUSE to be a bereavement counsellor. If someone rang and needed someone just to be there with them and/or to listen, one of us would go. As I read your piece, I was struck by the similarity of words I heard there. Reasons for the similarities may be different, but the reality for those grieving is the same. Brits were taught to keep their chins up and their feelings to themselves. Many still do.
One last thing here. I worked as the counsellor at an American college there. The mission of the school was to provide an international experience for students and faculty which meant we had people drawn from round the world. I worked with many who suffered loss while I was there and one thing I learned was not to assume that all cultures treated death in the same way. For most the pain was the same, but compassion was shared in different ways.
Sometimes you can see in someone's eyes whether or not they can allow you your pain or whether they must shut you out or down.
Why can we not simply be gentle with each other?
Your work here is so powerful and compelling. If you feel you have not touched all you wanted in this piece, then I hope you will continue. Your words touch so many of us. Perhaps we need your words as much as you do.
I also know what you mean by the inane comments good-natured people can make, as what Scylla quoted-- "Everything happens for a reason." A particularly vile one is, "God doesn't give you anything you can't handle." Wanna bet? Or how about, "All will be revealed to you in time."
Your writing is just so beautiful, and I hope you continue to share your pain here at OS. I live with chronic pain, and I don't know what I'd do without my OS pals. They bear witness in a unique and meaningful way, always.
And as for shaving your head, I know exactly what you mean with that, too. I actually went ahead and did it.
Hugs and loving thoughts to you, dear, dear woman. RATED.