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mistercomedy
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Minneapolis, Minnesota,
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March 30
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Michael Dane is America's favorite middle-aged, Jewish, bisexual social satirist. Or, at least one of them. Often referring to himself in the third person, he used to do standup comedy on the road, but now he just writes down funny things. He's putting together a book of food humor called "Does This Taste Funny? A Half-Baked Look at Food and Foodies."

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APRIL 24, 2010 7:10PM

you can't teach that...

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For the first time in five years, I’ll be teaching again this week. Before you start congratulating me for re-entering this most noble of professions, it’s not like I’ll be teaching about the towering figures in modern literature, or advances in higher mathematics, or, really anything with practical value. I teach stand-up comedy.

There are some problems with this as a way to make money. First, I’m not sure why anyone would take a stand-up comedy class, since the stand-up ‘boom’ ended in the early 1990s. It seems rather like studying to be an apothecary, or a blacksmith. Yeah, there are still comedy clubs, and a few hundred dive bars that might have a ‘comedy night’ in which they move the karaoke machine out of the way for an hour and a half (“You guys have to be done by 9:30, because the Metallica tribute band needs to set up”).

But it’s not like it was in the eighties, when every town with a sewer system offered a place to perform in front of a faux brick wall to an audience of drunk twenty-somethings. Sadly, the golden days of stand-up ended when it got over-exposed on TV and—sorry, I almost turned into an old vaudevillian bemoaning how radio killed his career.

More to the point, although I’ve taught comedy classes in the past (even taught ‘advanced stand-up’—and what the hell is that? Really complicated jokes? Longer…segues?), I’ve never been convinced you can actually teach stand-up comedy.

I think you can teach someone how to hold a microphone, and you can teach some tricks about putting jokes in a certain order (‘Don’t end your set with a joke about abortion,’ or ‘Don’t open by mentioning the Holocaust’), but you cannot teach someone to be funny. You need to bring funny with you to the first class.

However, I guess there will always be people lured by the prospect of a fifty-dollar Thursday gig in Dickinson, North Dakota, and for these brave souls, I offer four two-hour sessions, culminating in a three-minute performance at one of the local chuckle joints. The real problem is that if you want to be a comic, you should be at a comedy club, not in a classroom. You should be showing up at open mics trying out your shit in front of an audience (I’m really not selling my class very well—must learn how to market myself better.)

See, comedy’s different than other forms of ‘art,’ say, violin playing. You would never hear a violinist at Orchestra Hall say “This is something I’m just kinda trying out—it’s new--not sure if it’s gonna be any good.” But with standup, the ONLY way to know if something is funny is to say it in front of an audience—you can’t practice it in front of a mirror or say it into a tape recorder (are there still tape recorders? must update references…).

So the demographic that would sit at home and think “I want a more theoretical approach to the whole comedy thing, and I want to learn in an environment that’s entirely unlike any place comedy might actually happen” are people who, by and large, aren’t toting a lot of funny around with them. They’re taking my class for the same reason they might take a class in bungee jumping, or macramé—something they always thought about trying, because it could be fun.

In my experience, there are certain types of people who take Introduction to Stand-up Comedy.

The Frat Boy Type: believes he’s funny because he can make his ‘bros’ laugh at a kegger by doing a drunk impression of his boss followed by armpit farts—sadly, this doesn’t always translate in front of a real crowd

The Cubicle Guy: wants to try something different to shake up his nine-to-five life, but prior performing experience limited to emceeing the raffle at the company picnic, during which he attempted part of a Bill Cosby routine

The Hipster: watches too much Comedy Central, thinks he could do comedy because ‘they’re just saying a bunch of random shit anyway’

The Saucy Mom: has read a lot of Erma Bombeck, and now that kids have moved out, finally is trying what she ‘always wanted to do,’ but mostly wants to say inappropriate things and swear a lot

The Comedy Writer: has none of the personality required to be a performer, but has a chapbook filled with wacky ideas, most of which are only funny to him

The Toastmaster: Unclear on the distinction between public speaking and stand-up; would ideally prefer to read from note cards at a podium (tells people what he’s going to tell them, then tells them, then tells them what he’s told them)

Another challenge in teaching the ‘rules’ of comedy is that almost by definition, comedy is about seeming like you’re breaking the rules—saying those very things that you’ve been trained to suppress since fourth grade when you were sent home with a note saying ‘cuts up in class—always disrupting lessons with jokes.’

Of course, there will always be the stand-up student who simply wants to be like whoever the hot comic is at the moment, and I essentially have to beat that out of them so they find their own comic voice, and so the world isn’t overrun with clones of Dane Cook. But every so often, I come across students with a spark, that ineffable flair that makes you want to listen to whatever they feel like talking about.

It’s what my beatnik friend Eugene used to call ‘the thang.’ And though I try my damndest to give every student the tools they need to pull a few laughs out of increasingly jaded audiences, it’s that one in twenty, the one who has that ‘thang,’ who makes me want to teach comedy. Just don’t expect me to teach you to be funny.

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This was great. I actually have a million things to say in response.

I have to run but I plan to be back and really comment my head off about this. Thanks for this!
mister, this is serious!
i could see/hear each one of the comedian-wannabes.
i think you might like to read terry pratchett, especially when he writes about the rigours (he's a brit) of attending clown university.
Good luck with that Mr. C.
and funny piece. I bet your classes will be good material for writing here. I look forward to more.
So, can I get a refund? ;)
ooooh,I.would.like.to.try.stand.up.
I agree 100%. Just like serial killers, stand up comedy can't be taught. I mean you can give someone a knife and some issues but if he's not going to be just another stupid Gacy clone, he needs to come up with a fresh approach and have that special something that makes him unique.

Good post!
From everything I've read so far, your entire blog is a lesson in humor. I can see you delivering these monologs you write standing on stage in front of a crowd, most likely opening for George Carlin (the last truly funny stand up comedian on the planet IMHO)
Where's the credit card swipey thing? I need to register for class.
Every time I remember that I forgot to fulfill my perennial New Years' Resulutions To Drink More, I read something like this and realise i doon't really have to. Tho this is better.
I've seen you on The Comedy Central Network dozens of times.
I really enjoy your work.
I need your class. Do you teach how to deal with hecklers, because I have these neighbors...
This is informative. I'm not sure how I feel about being a saucy mom though.
Try teaching theology. My classes were often full of would be comics.

;-)

Monte
"A rabbi walks into a bar with a duck on his shoulder..."
Wow, there's a word I haven't heard for a while: macramé.

I'll never forget my mom taking macramé classes in the 70s. We ended up with like 27 hooks in the living room ceiling, each bearing the load of a net of thick, scratchy, burlapy, ropey, twiney macramé cradling a pottery-potted spider plant. She even made macramé pot holders and trivets; there was macramé everywhere you looked for about half a decade. Damn, how I hated that bathing suit...

Does the class tuition include room, board, and private jet to MSP? If so, sign me up! Have 'em pick me up at oh, let's say 9:00. I'll wait out front.

Nice post!
excellent...this essay deserves wide distribution. Hmm... *puts on her thinking cap*
You are either born funny or you're wasting money taking a class. I'll bet you get some funny material just watching the wannabes!
R
Icelandic? Wouldn't just "Iceland" work better? ~smile~
Michael knock 'em dead in the classroom. You can be hero to your students. Remember, Dennis Wolfberg used his classroom before he achieved some success.

Those students are a captive audience. "Remember to tip your librarians and lunchladies...I'm here all semester. Try the fishsticks."
fernsy: looking forward to those million comments...
dianaani: thanks for the tip on terry pratchett--will check it out...
trilogy: oh, there will be material, i'm sure!
cartouche: sorry--no refunds...
Amanda: you.should.try.it...
Andy: yeah, nothing worse than a cliche serial killer...
Placebo: i got the chance to meet carlin backstage in vegas, and he couldn't have been cooler and more supportive...
Bellwether: no swipey thing--but i will accept trinkets and beads....
Jonathan: me plus drinking is even better!...
Larry: thanks (though i've actually never been on comedy central, i'll still take the compliment--i'm not too proud)...
xenonlit: i definitely teach heckler-shutdown 101...not sure it'll work on neighbors--when i slam a heckler, i usually never have to deal with them again...
Dorinda: embrace your inner sauciness!...
Monte: makes sense--the most profound trait of my god is a sense of humor...
Cranky Cuss: oh sure, leave us hanging without a punchline...
thatwriter: you wait right there...i should be there soon...
Nikki: i would love to be 'widely distributed'...why does that sound suggestive...
Donna: i could do an entire act about the 'wannabees'...
Ruff Life: point taken--i suppose when you think 'iceland' now, you assume volcano...
OE: based on that last riff in your comment, i think you've seen too much stand-up comedy...
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Rated.

Love your tags, by the way. :)
wonderful as always. I guess I see teaching people how to write poetry in much the same way. rated.
I respect stand up comedians- it must take a lot of courage to do what they do. Rated.
Good luck teaching. I can't wait to read what you write from your experiences with the class!
I want to be the saucy comedy writer mom, can you teach me that? ;)

"(‘Don’t end your set with a joke about abortion,’ or ‘Don’t open by mentioning the Holocaust’)"

Oh now you tell me that!! I was at this conference, something about Jews maybe for or against abortion, I forget, but I started up my routine about this abortionist at a Hilter Youth rally, oooh you never saw a group run so fast in chase in your life. Good thing I've been working out.

;)