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Navy, Army, Deadhead, educator. On guard against Crimes Against Rock. Always looking for the crux of the biscuit.

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APRIL 18, 2009 9:05PM

What The Hell Won't Meatloaf Do For Love?

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                        mloaf129

To Meatloaf and Jim Steinman:

Can I call you Meat? I’ll just call you Meat, okay. And you, Mr. Steinman, you don’t mind if we call you The Steinmiester, do you? Good.

 We here at Crimes Against Rock (a department of the Rock N Roll Hall of Shame) have been spending an inordinate amount of time attempting to decipher your 1993 song “I Would Do Anything for Love (But I Won’t Do That). We believe we’ve cracked the code, unearthed the essential meaning of the song, and quite frankly, we are as confused as ever about what the hell you’re singing about.

We used every analytical method we can think of to get to the meaning of your hit song. What the hell won’t you do for love!? Strap-ons? Spooning? Putting the toilet seat down? Coprophilia? The song was one stinking load of mystery, so to speak.

 For a while there was a contentious and, ultimately, self defeating split here in the office between those who viewed the song through a strict Straussian structuralism and those who viewed it through Baudrillard’s Precession of Simulacra paradigm (considering the Bat out of Hell II album, this view held sway for some time). Of course neither view made sense, and you’ll be happy to know that we’ve quit drinking Absinthe.

For a time we employed a psychotherapist, a medium, and even a dog whisperer to discover the underlying truth of the song.

We even hired a private detective. We liked him. He was cool, he had a rad car, and a friend with a helicopter. Unfortunately he spent most of his time watching Tiger games on TV and making out with our interns.

                                  jungle-bird-magnum1

Eventually we settled on mass quantities of Troegs Nugget Nectar beer to aid us through a close reading of the song. The results weren't pretty.

(Troegs+Meatloaf + the truth / incomprehensible rock song = Hangover )

                             nugget_nectar_ale

First of all, we were unsure about some of the grammatical choices made. For example, in the first stanza you say: “I would do anything for love, I'll never lie to you and that’s a fact. But I'll never forget the way you feel right now.” Okay, why the conjunction “BUT”?  The word “But” implies a contrast. How is the fact that you won’t lie to the girl a contrast to the way she feels to you? Are you implying that while you are feeling her you have some urge to lie to her? And what did this have to do with what you wouldn’t do for love? Down the rabbit hole we go.

You go into this operatic caterwaul about how “some days {she} breathes fire, and some days {she’s} carved in ice” and how you “will do anything for love…as long as the planets are turning and the stars are burning…” Okay. We get this. Yes, we understand that girls can be temperamental, and your love for the girl is epic—a love on a cosmic scale. But what the heck won’t you do for love? Why won’t you tell us?

It is at this point of the song, after way too many rounds of beer pong, that we had our first major breakthrough. You sing: “That I would do anything for love, and I'll be there until the final act - I would do anything for love! And I'll take a Vow and Seal a pact -But I'll never forgive myself if we don’t go all the way – Tonight.”

Ah Ha! Now, we get to the motive behind the song: you want to get down her pants! Okay. This makes sense. "Pull down your pants and have sex with me" is the subtext and motivation for 99% of all rock songs. 

So at this point we’ve deduced that you will SAY anything for SEX. We understand that. Really, we do. But this gets us no closer to what exactly won’t you do for love. The rest of the song, as you know, proceeds in the same manner. How you’ll go to “hell and back” (nice reference to your albums btw), and how you dream of only her…AArggggh! More Beer!

There was one tangential line we took issue with. In fact, we were derailed for some days while discussing its meaning. The line in question:

Some days I just pray to the God of Sex and Drums and Rock 'N' Roll.”

Sex and DRUMS and Rock N Roll? You are aware it should read Sex, DRUGS, and Rock N Roll, right? Drums would, obviously, be included in the Rock N Roll segment. Why use drums as a replacement for drugs? I mean, we’ve had some awesome drum circles around here, but they don’t have the oomph that drugs provide. What’s wrong with drugs in the grand scope of Sex and Rock? Sex and drugs have fueled rock music for years. Consider the research:

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Anyway, for a time we entertained the notion that drugs were what you wouldn’t do for love (or for good music either). We had to amend this view, however, as we further inspected the song.

By the time we had gotten to the end of the song we began to home into what you won’t do for love. When Lorraine Crosby begins singing we noted the marked change in the tone and lyrics. She sings a few verses along these lines: “Will you hold me sacred? Will you hold me tight? Can you colorize my life I'm so sick of black and white? Can you make it a little less old?”  

And you sing: “I can do that!”

Okay, we are on the edge of our seats now. Will she mention the thing you won’t do? The tension was palpable. It took time. We actually missed it a few times, but finally, at the end of the song, buried at the end of the song, fleeting, almost tossed off casually, is the answer to the enigma of what the hell you won’t do for love:

Crosby : I know the territory - I've been around, It'll all turn to dust and we'll all fall down, And sooner or later you'll be screwing around.

Meatloaf : I wont do that! I wont do that! Anything for love, I would do anything for love, I would do anything for love, But I wont do that, I wont do that.”

So, That's the frigging point of the song? That you won’t cheat on her? You sing for almost 7 minutes about what you’ll do for love, how grand and epic your love is, and the payoff is that you won’t cheat on her for love? What? Is it the love you have with the girl or is your love just so big and unwieldy that it spills all over unsuspecting girls in restaurants and bars?

You won’t cheat on her for love.

Now, forgive me if I’m wrong, but I can’t think of a situation where my wife would say, “you know, if you loved me you’d have naked time with Angelina Jolie. You must sleep with her—for love.” Frankly Mr..Meat, Mr. Steinmiester, I’d totally have to consider it. I mean, Angelina Jolie! For love! If I’m willing to go to hell for my wife, I think I could muster the courage to have naked fun time with Angelina Jolie.

So there you go. I will totally do anything for love—even that (as long as it were for love. And it was like Angelina Jolie or Kate Winslet. And she brought beer.) All of us here at Crimes Against Rock concur with this assessment.

So, if you know Angelina’s number, maybe we can work out a deal about publishing our findings on your song. The finding could prove potentially embarrassing. We’re waiting…

MJwycha—Crimes Against Rock

 

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Wow, this entire post cuts like a knife.

heh
I LOVE this post. This so needed to be done.

I really like Meatloaf. Paradise by the Dashboard Light. And he's so engaging in concert.
Finally someone asks the question....
The man has made a guest appearance on House. There is nothing he won't do.
And what's up with the cops searching in the woods for Meatloaf's character in the video? You would think they'd know that the hideously deformed romantic lives in the big mansion on the hill.
Oh thank you. That is a burning question.
I just heard this song last night, and we went through most of that. But were to intoxicated to come to any conclusions. Thanks for this!
Thanks for the comments odette and Natalie. I have to admit he's a heck of a performer. Oh, and odette--nice reference to my previous post--ha! Cuts like a knife. where similes go to die.

Walk away and Zuma--someone needed to ask it--we here at Crimes Against Rock are dumb enough and drunk enough to ask these burning questions!

BBE--Honestly he's a terrific actor. He should stick to that. And Jim Steinman should never write lyrics again.

Busybee--keep drinking, eventually the song begins to make a certain sense.
this is the best post ever.
Always enjoy your posts MJ. I don't even know this song all that well; certainly it wasn't familiar enough that I would have thought to analyze it. And I still got great enjoyment out of all the literary references and the punchlines. Also fairly sure most men are with you on the sacrificial naked time with Angelina. (You are SO noble!) Cheers - thanks for the laughs!
km, thanks!

annette--thanks. If I can be funny, even if people aren't familiar with the song, then maybe I'm on to something. Cool. But, you don't remember this song? It polluted the airwaves for a time in 93-94. It was hard to get away from.
My god! You're right! What ARE they searching for him and not looking in the mansion on the hill? Good grief!

Maybe they aren't local cops.
BOOH (the first) is one of my drivetime belt-it-out stress reducers.

But this song? You're so right, MJ.

WTF?
odette--videos in the 90s made no sense at all--That would actually be an interesting show (that I'd be qualified for): analyzing and mocking music videos from the 80s and 90s--think of it as a thinking man's Bevis and Butthead

VR--great, now I have the image of you driving around, belting out "Paradise By the Dashboard Lights." I always imagined you as this very tasteful and very cool lady. Someone to look up to. Listening to Meatloaf is literally one of the most uncool things a person can do. Dang. Another myth crushed. : D
"Mistah Loaf! Mistah Loaf! It Buttwheat, it Buttwheat! I wamba imberbew yoo! Mistah Loaf!"

"Un, tie, fee tines a mady."

"Wookin' pa nub in aww da wong pwaces, wookin pa nub."

Mr. Loaf played in "Roadie". He played himself basically. He wrote and performed the most overrated album in the history of music in "Bat Out of Hell". He did have a good role in "Fight Club".
But his fifteen minutes turned into 30 years. How????????
Rated
KoB--I actually think he's a really good actor (great job on House the other night as BBE said), and he should have gone to Broadway--not rock. But you're right--Bat out of Hell was over rated--not to mention it sucks.
The guy actually had tits in "Fight Club" Is there nothing he won't do for work?
Hey a guy's got to make a living
I love that idea. Because those videos made no sense. Except for Twisted Sister. I think that video made sense. "I wanna ROCK!!" hee hee
say anything for sex, do anything for love ... same dog, different leash

oh ~ and my college suitemate was the daughter of some big time NY moving company magnate who sued Meatloaf for millions of dollars ... I can't remember why though ... but she had a convertible Lexus and we had a lot of super exciting fun in it ... thanks Meatloaf :)
Hilarious. Fantastic.
(Are you on FB? I would love to share this post with a few friends.)
I saw him in concert right after "Bat Out Of Hell" came out and he performed the entire thing from beginning to end. Karla DeVito was the hot girl that he seduces in Paradise By The Dashboard Light. He feigned a collapse and had to be assisted to the side of the stage and administered oxygen only to make an even more fierce return moments later. His encore was a bunch of rock 'n' roll classics. That was when he was at his height and he's been falling ever since then, in my opinion.

I've seen his acting and I don't think he's bad. In fact, he seems like a regular-sort-of-guy. His original show was wild and exciting and unpredictable and boy, could he sing! But now, when I see him perform on stage, I just find it almost sad.

By the way, anyone that uses "caterwaul" and "tangential" in an essay about Meatloaf is okay in my book.
It's kind of fun to go to concerts just because you're unsure if the performer is going to live long enough to finish the song.
I'm flashing back to Rocky Horror: "Oh Nooooo! Not Meat Loaf Again!"
I love these blogs you are doing, MJ! This is so funny and I chuckled throughout. Hilarious. Of course, Meatloaf is perfect for this, just perfect.
OH, I forgot to say that I looooved the meatloaf pic at the top--great opener, really set the tone well :)
Excellent analysis and fun reading ;0)
Good writing can chill the room. I've grabbed a wrap. Excellent!
loved this piece--as a huge fan of 70's ephemera (and someone who has dug his share of Meatloaf)--all i can say is if you have any openings in the Crimes Against Rock division i want to apply...
What kind of masochist listens to Meatloaf on purpose?
This affected me so deeply that I needed to respond. It turned into a rant, so I blogged the rant.

http://open.salon.com/blog/r_bomb
Thanks for the comments all.

1-irritated mother--I wonder what Meat got sued for? Perhaps for never clearly answering the frigging question: what he won't do for love.

aim--I'm on Facebook, but I don't really know what to do with it--haven't looked at it in weeks. But OS has a facebook page I think.

Duaneart--yeah, he's a bit past his prime...

Sao, Dorinda, Scupper--thanks for reading, glad you enjoyed! And Sao, I saw that picture, and I just broke up laughing--it works on all kinds of levels.

mistercomedy--We always have room here in the Crimes Against Rock Department for smart alecks, wise asses, and all around goof-offs. As long as you don't mind being paid in chicken wings and beer : )

EoC--What kind of people listen to Meatloaf on purpose? We do. With enough beer the genius of bad music reveals itself, like an unfolding flower--in puke. Someone needs to pick the scab of pop culture. We provide this service.

r-bomb--I'll check it out!
Loved your piece.... especially the chart!

My husband SWEARS it was to take out the garbage. He insists it was in an interview somewhere. I googled it, and nada, natch.... but I did find a whole lot on wikipedia... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I%27d_Do_Anything_for_Love_(but_I_Won%27t_Do_That)
I don't remember where I read it but I am pretty sure what he wouldn't do was clean the toilet.
Bat Out of Hell is one of the great albums of all time. I wanted to defend this one but, well, I got nothin'. Well done.
I had a roommate in college who was a huge Meatloaf fan and also an Ayn Rand fan. I'm still not sure which annoyed me more. And does objectivism have anything to do with doing anything for love? I'm pretty sure they're incompatible philosophies. Rated for being almost as much fun as naked fun time.
I'll always love the 'loaf for admitting he was praying for the end of time so soon after glowing like the metal on the edge of a knife.....
I saw an answer but I forget if it was Meat Loaf of Steinman. They kept if vague on purpose so people could think whatever they want. Still doesnt excuse the fact that they made one good album and the rest were sad attempts at repeating it.
Hahahaha! It's about time someone cracked the code. Excellent work. You deserve another Nuggat Nector! Cheers!
man, i love bat outta hell. just look at your first picture. what is not to love? thanks for this treatise. i've always thought what he won't do is any thing she is asking at the time that he doesnt feel like doing. so "that" is very changeable. that would be properly manly of him, anyway.
This is some post! But don'tcha know what he wouldn't do was make her a vampire??!! That's what he told me, anyway!
Rated for buckets of sweat!
Rated for "Can I call you Meat?" LOL! This is a scream! I want you and you department, Crimes against Rock, to do some more of these inquiries. Like say the unforgivable sin of Metallica's Symphonic album. Or just what IS more human than the human? Or what the hell is Eddie Vedder saying in the recorded/studio version of Yellow Ledbetter? And why is it called that?
Professor of Rock MJ, this was awesome. I applaud you knowledge of Rockology and gave it a standing ovation. My dog howled for it, too! I'm moving my Bic, back & forth, back & forth...
Rated & Cheers!
I couldn't comment about the gentleman part but you sir are a scholar.
and along these same lines, many years ago when that guy Reagan was president his Secretary of the Interior James Watt fired the Beach Boys from the annual Fourth of July Show on the Mall and replaced them with Wayne Newton. His reasoning was that the Beach Boys inspired too many concert goers to indulge in drug use. A man much wiser than myself wrote into the Washington Post and said that it took many more drugs to enjoy Wayne Newton than it ever did the Beach Boys. High crimes indeed.
Like much of the finest Rock and Roll ever made, this song works much beter if you don't think so much. Just turn it up and feel it. I will defend Mr. Meat to hell and back, but have to commend you on another entertaining, hell, riotous essay. But never, ever look for meaning or logic in a rock video.
Just watched the vid and must say it's one of the more incomprehensible I've ever suffered through. Why aren't the lyrics synched to the singers? It's like watching a Godzilla movie. I used to think "I won't do that" refered to a guy who will do anything for a girl except waiting forever to have sex. The video implies the dude has a problem joining in the girl/girl sex. Who knows?

Must take issue with your comment that Steinman should never write again.

"Will you hose me down with holy water if I get too hot?"

This is genius. The Steinman-Loaf pairing may not rank with Lennon-McCartney, nor even with Taupin-John, but I insist it has produced a bounty of original, memorable and, hot-dammit, fun songs. You and your fellow faculty members at BBU (Beer Bong University) need to reconsider your position here.

Ha!
Sir, you disparage Meatloaf and you disparage AMERICA! I detected your snarky tone!! You are the type who will NOT do anything for love, including motorcycle chases and wandering around mansions with mysterious wind current that blows clothes around. I wish I'd never known you.
(LOVED IT!)
People were on drugs when this was written. I think that says it all. Plus, it leaves it to the listener to fill in the blank on their own for I won't do that. Listener love to be able to put themselves in the song. I like Meatloaf but I am one of the one timers... that love crazy silly songs... like Yellow submarine. LOL thanks for sharing. Totzaon
Did anyone ever see his much-too-brief appearance as Jack Black's dad in "Tenacious D: The Pick of Destiny"? I thought that was pretty cool. I'd like to see him in more movies too, whether he sings or not.
You may have too much time on your hands, what with hiring the private detective and all that. Let me enlighten you: It's a dumb song, promises profundity but doesn't deliver. Your post is more than valid though, and it is about time this issue was addressed on OS.