
M. Chariot ran into Mlle Faye Dunaway at the dry cleaner's recently. I was picking up one of my fancier waistcoats, which had incurred a stain resulting from an overenthusiasm for the veal — when I detected an angry, patrician voice coming from further down the counter. There stood Faye Dunaway, a ticket in hand, bejewelled knuckle on hip, looking peeved. She, like all movie stars, is much tinier than one would imagine from watching her films. Tiny, very slender, even stick-like, a coat of expertly applied maquillage, perfectly dressed, artificiel, like a Beverly Hills matron, all whites and creams, with a kind of cloche on her head, an expensive caramel bag, gold jewelry.
She seemed impatient, cold, unfriendly to the staff. A constricted quality. Snatched her plastic-sheathed gown and stalked out, looking like she'd just as soon firebomb the place. I'd heard absolutely terrible rumors about her here in LA, but this was the first time I'd seen her in person. Did not get a good impression, I can tell you that. But - try as we might - how many of us give "a good impression" to a stranger's gaze each and every day?

Here in Los Angeles, seeing film stars in "real life" (if that's the appropriate term for my bumblings about the Boulevard) is quite illuminating. I'm not talking about stars on some kind of publicity tour, signing books, or in a professional situation, gladhanding the fans and smiling warmly at the camera. I'm talking about the supermarket or the dry cleaner, the parking lot or the nail salon. Ordering coffee at Starbuckle. On film, they are typically open and vulnerable and 'giving' to the audience via the camera. When you see them going about their business in the real world, they can appear, by contrast, very closed, guarded, opaque, uninterested, dismissive of the gawping public. It's disconcerting, akin to running into an old friend who has mysteriously decided to snub you.
All of which leaves me impressed with stars who are forever granting autographs and acknowledging their fans while dining in restaurants and the like. It can't be easy. Addressing the so-called 'adoring' public has got to be like making one's way through a snake pit at an insane asylum. You never know what's coming at you. In a crush of strangers, who is going to thank you for your performance in Network and who is going to try to poke out your eyeballs with their keys? Must make navigating the public sphere seem very dicey indeed!



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I am up in Los Angeles on a fairly regular basis and the one thing I have learned is to never bother the film actors. Just like me I like to go about my business without adoring fans asking for a photo or an autograph.
The truly classy ones will humbly sign or stand for a quick cell camera shot. But even then I try to ignore them since I feel they deserve some privacy as well.
But that doesn't mean if I see my number actor in the world, Ryan Gosling, walking down the sidewalk, I may swoon or sigh but never loud enough to let him hear me. Plus, I understand from people in the know that he frowns on such obvious displays of adoration. Also, I'd be too shy to even ask for an autograph or a photo.
It's good Ms. Dunaway didn't treat you terribly. I'm sure she knows of you and will treat you accordingly, Monsieur
They should get over it!
Now, Faye Dunaway was a great beauty, how is she aging? Cracks in the visage? Has she bought and paid for a vacation home for her plastic surgeon? I am a trifle concerned that Ms. Dunaway was picking up her own dry cleaning! Then again when was the last time we saw her on the silver screen.
I will always remember her as the beautiful Bonnie, matched with Clyde Barrow played by the so sexy and young then Warren Beatty. That was a stunning couple! Warren sadly is one who relies on his wife for communication with underlings.
Monsieur Chariot, I feel I must bring this up, as I feel your personal safety may be in jeopardy. Is there any possibility that Ms. Dunaway might be the Whole Foods stalker? It wouldn't be the first time that a big star went over the edge. The encounter in the dry cleaners might not have been a coincidence. Please check your vehicle, she might have placed a GPS device in it, or on it. One cannot be too careful.
Cheers, my darling Frenchman.
When we were leaving, I approached the table (both were enjoying Tila's tasty margaritas), said, "Ms. Redgrave?" She looked up at me and I simply said, "Thank you."
She gave a very regal nod of her head in reply.
That was much better than the time I knocked over my chair when dining at a table adjacent to Sir Ian McKellen. And he noticed.
You can dress me up...
My own moment of decision not to become instantly recognizably famous was during the intermission of Cat on a Hot Tin Roof with Paul Newman and Geraldine Page. I wandered around the lobby hoping to eavesdrop on appreciative conversations expressing the awe I felt. But every single conversation I listened to on the sly was about something inconsequential and unrelated to the play. THESE PEOPLE DIDN'T DESERVE PAGE, NEWMAN AND WILLIAMS.
Let's skip swiftly over the issue of whether or not I should have been listening to strangers' conversations and passing unflattering judgments from the elevated position of my youthful self-righteousness.
That was the moment I decided never to become famous myself. If the public didn't worship Newman and Page and Williams, how could they ever worship me???
And now you add a darker chapter: being worshiped may be worse than not being worshiped. Newman may have found that out but seems always to have handled it more gracefully than Ms. Dunaway. Then again, maybe she was pissed at not being treated like royalty?
Thank goodness you were in the establishment to represent kindness and respect to the people Dunaway dissed.
Always good to see you Monsieur.......
She was on Grey's Anatomy recently. She still looks damn good, but no wrinkles, very tight skin, so yes, plastic surgery.
Actually, you can't blame them for their reticence. I'm sure many wonder if the oddball that is approaching them could be another Mark David Chapman. It's not a lifestyle I envy.
And maybe the dry cleaner had "misplaced" her designer dress for a week. I've known someone that happened to-- she assumed that someone from the cleaners borrowed her gown, cleaned it, and returned it to her a week later.
I guess it must be difficult when people are no longer that interested in your celebrity - hard to acknowledge you are yesterday's news, Faye who? to the majority who would rather ogle Lindsay Lohan or Hannah Montana. But still I'd advise the estimable Ms. Dunaway to get some perspective. You only live once, my dear. Might as well enjoy all the gifts you've been given.....
And how lovely not only to see you back among us, but near (and I'm sure dear) to Stellaa, on whose post I earlier wrote a comment about the wonderful film Network. Plus ca change...
Once, I was having dinner at Harvey's Chelsea Restaurant in NYC and Hal Holbrooke was dining with his family at the next table. Being a proper New Yorker, I glanced at him occasionally but otherwise left him alone. Lori Anderson lived in my neighborhood (this was before she married Lou Reed) and I spotted her at the grocery store. I was very interested to know what an avant garde musician/performance artist stocked her pantry with. Lots of frozen food it turns out. I didn't bother her, either.
I have similar stories, but the point is always the same--they were simply going about their business, just as I was going about mine, and it just did not seem necessary or appropriate to interrupt them, even to pay them a compliment.
Oh, poor Faye! She was no doubt completely upset that her PA Marie ran off to Switzerland with her last PA Janet. Something like that. Having to get her own cleaning! Oh, the insult of such a situation.
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How terrible to be so beautiful and to have to grow old. Very few of them seem to be able to do it well, sigh.
When I was in the Navy, I was a driver for the singer/actor Meatloaf when he came down for a USO tour in 94. I got to spend four days with Meatloaf and his family. They were great--they included me in everything(okay, I was their driver, but still, they made me feel part of the group). They were actually a rather normal family.
I've often thought that it would be nice to put together a short autobiography composed solely of my celebrity encounters.
Oh for the good old days.
These talkies have ruined everything.
That photo of Ms Dunaway does have a certain "Bonnie and Clyde I'm-going-to-blow-you-to-Kingdom-come" aspect to it, I admit. but then, I'd probably hate being super-famous and feel I couldn't stick my nose out of doors without a heavy disguise. Anonymity doesn't seem so bad, all of a sudden.
I would have said, "Hey! Roger Moore!"
And her beaming smile?
There are celebs who are not so full of unhappiness.
By the way, I'm looking at the pimento strip across the horizon as the sun decides to arise.
I'm surprised at some of these comments that jump to judge Ms. Dunaway. What the hell? Are you at your best, more warm, most caring and perfect all the time?
I would just assume ignore any celebs that I run into in public for two reasons. One, they probably just want some privacy and to be left alone. Two, if they want adulation, let them go on stage and perform.
I enjoyed this glimpse into your fair city of the angels.
My very best wishes and regards.
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My goodness, you own several waistcoats?
In the realm of fine cuisine, there is a chance that I might encounter a celebrity were one to appear at Baja Fresh or Dairy Queen.
I once saw a local TV weatherman walking down a street, and I could scarce contain my excitement.
But my closest and only brush with True Greatness came from the fact that one of my many ex-wives, a drug dealer in her younger days, once partied with Sly and the Family Stone. This brings me a certain fame by association, and if any of you want my autograph, I will be happy to send you one, for a small fee.
I had a one on one conversation for over an hour with her in...oh, must have been the mid 70's, she wore a beret and looked beautiful in it. I remember she was very interested in our conversation and I felt very flattered she was so attentive and kind. It was also the same night Dennis Hopper was kicking the back of my seat in the movie theater and stage whispering about how cute the girl in the film was. It was me. That fact aside it did not make me any more appreciative of his kicking.
Astute Hollywood observations.
Several years ago, a psychiatrist friend was visiting me from London, and was of course anxious to see a star or two. We were enjoying a moment's refreshment outside one of my favorite Hollywood cafes when a car pulls up in front and I can see habitué Jodi Foster gathering her purse and preparing to emerge. My friend fails to notice, and so I whisper, quite under my breath I assure you, "That's Mlle Jodi Foster!!!" He glances at her and insists I'm mistaken. I, in turn, insist that I am quite correct. This whispered argument continues for a few moments during which I find myself becoming furious.
Piqued by his arrogant refusal to recognize my expertise in the matter, when Mlle Foster finally locked her car and arrived at the door to the cafe, I called out, in my breeziest and friendliest voice, "Hello Jodi, my dear!" She looked me up and down, from top hat to spats, and replied in what can only be described as a most quizzical tone: "hi..."? and proceeded into the store for her SugarFree Chocolate Mint Latte (to GO).
My bold greeting proved two things at once: I managed to prove to my biggety British friend that I know a celebrity when I see one, and at the same time proved to Jodi Foster that I was an insufferable boor. Let this be a lesson to you!
I remember when she called on the phone to inquire about a book, back when I was a bookstore clerk on Sunset. You probably know the one, Monsieur.
So how did I know it was she? Because she *said* so. Like, announcing who she was made her more important or something. If this was a her wish, she was calling the wrong bookstore. And the wrong town.
I can't recall which book she was looking for, but I went to go look for it on the shelf, and when I came back, she was no longer on the line.
But she called back! Her reason for not being on the line anymore? "You took too long." I kid you not. So not only is she a brat, but a stupid one too. This was 15 years ago. I guess she hasn't learned her lesson yet. People do talk.
i lived in that area for several years and had many of what i call brushes with greatness. but the best one of all took place at hugo's on sunset. is that still here, that great breakfast place with the eggs and pasta combinations. it was memorial day adn i was with a friend to whom i was whining about not having big plans for the holiday weekend and feeling envious of all those who had said big plans. well, in walked steve martin and richard dreyfuss. not together. with different groups of people. it was lovely to overhear their conversations and to learn that they were gracious with waitstaff and such.
and what a pleasure to realize that people who had infinite choices were spending their time dining in the same place as i was. i haven't whined about holiday plans since then. because, as we say back on boston, ya nevah know. love lvoe lveo and gratitude
This is a must read for everyone actor in Hollywood.
Who could realize that they are martyred for the craft. As if, in the end we hate them for the illusion, they fantasy they provide.
Thank you for what you said about Lohan too.
A high-strung, narcissistic ectomorph if ever there was one. Imagine being that irritable and seemingly unhappy after all those years of adulation. One of those people I'll be very content to remember as she probably never was.
Rated for the flood of ambivalent faux memories this fine post induced, M. Chariot.
Sorry. This warm weather brings the raccoons out at night. When they shake themselves, they give off clouds of stale dandruff. That, in turn, impedes clear thinking among Hypersensitives, especially if we've just touched something that has touched peanuts.
And I've watched that "Fire at the Disco" video around 200 times. I think its brilliant. It's just perfectly bizarre.
She stole my heart in Bonnie and Clyde; I was jealous of Warren Beatty. I could hardly control my passions when she played chess with Steve McQueen, likely the hottest movie ever made, and without nudity or sex. But we all know what happened later....
You likely nailed it when you stood in her shoes and imagined what she must feel like every day when her fans and detractors stalk her every move. Very nice tale! Rated
Well, there stood Faye Dunaway…the skinniest human being I’d ever seen outside of a statistic recorded in the Guinness Book of World Records. Incredible, I thought that a human being could be so skeletal and still be drawing breath. She was adorned for the occasion in a white tee shirt and jeans.
We’ve all come a long way since then, it seems.