We last discussed how St. Mark handles the Resurrection. In particular, we noted that Mark says absolutely nothing about any specific resurrection appearances. Instead, he essentially repeats the kerygma, the proclamation, of the earliest Church, as recorded by St. Paul in First Corinthians 15: 1-11.
In Mark a proclamation of resurrection faith is stated within the empty tomb. There, an angel says that Jesus is not in the tomb; that he has been raised, and is going ahead of Peter and the disciples to Galilee where they will see him. Thus, the angel predicts an appearance by the Risen Lord, but Mark does not describe the event.
This speech by the angel is a divine explanation of the meaning of the empty tomb. But angels aren't humans and and human reaction is not necessarily one of casual acceptance. Rather, Mark records that the women to whom the angel spoke are simply terrified and flee from the tomb in amazement, and tell no one!
There, on that strange note, Mark ends his Gospel! Of course we know that they did tell someone otherwise Mark would not know anything about what the angel said or what the women did.
But I believe that Mark intentionally ends his Gospel this way. Mark wants each individual reader to make his or her own decision about who Jesus is. And, as I wrote last week, the question for us from Mark is, "Will we have faith without human evidence other than the word of Jesus himself?"
Mark would have us look at the evidence He provides in his Gospel and decide without the comfort of human testimony. Mark demands that we have faith based on the word of Jesus, and that of an angel after he had risen. For some that is enough.
But not many are blessed with such trusting faith. And so, without realizing it, Mark lays the groundwork, via the statement of the angel in the empty tomb, for the later Gospel writers, wh0 do include specific descriptions by eye-witnesses to the appearances of the Risen Lord. The three later Gospel writers tell us "what happened" after Mark's gospel ends.
Matthew is the Gospel writer who adheres closest to Mark's story, building his entire narrative on Mark's Gospel, but expanding it greatly and adding a lot of other material as well.
Mark wrote primarily for a gentile audience. Matthew, on the other hand, is the most "Jewish" of the Gospel writers and his small church was a Jewish sect within a Jewish world. In Matthew's time and place Christians viewed themselves as part of the Jewish faith.
As such, Matthew knew first hand the harsh accusations of the Jewish leadership and the condemnations of orthodox Jews against the upstart Christian sect.
And the hardest accusation of all to overcome was that the resurrection was faked by the disciples. Thus, writing perhaps 30 years after Mark, Matthew is interested in telling details of the story that Mark chose not to tell; or, perhaps, did not even know.
In any case, Matthew reports two separate appearances by the Risen Lord, the first immediately outside of the tomb in Jerusalem and the second later appearance on the mountain in Galilee, where the disciples worship Him, yet some doubt.
It is there on that mountain in Galilee where the Risen Christ gives them what we know as "The Great Commission." We'll come back to these two scenes in a moment, but first, let's look at something else that Matthew reports that Mark says nothing about.
Matthew, having lived with the accusations of his Jewish neighbors for years, tells the story of what happened at the tomb quite differently than does Mark. Matthew weaves into the story of the death of Jesus the undoubtedly true idea that the Jewish leaders were afraid that Jesus' followers would fake his resurrection.
Thus in Matthew we learn that the Chief Priests and the Pharisees go to Pilot and tell of an alleged plot by the Christians to steal the body and to claim that Jesus was raised. Pilate, in turn, tells them to place guards at the tomb to keep that from happening and to "secure" the tomb.
They do; and we are told that the guards somehow "seal" the tomb. This extra caution is to no avail, and Matthew describes a far more dramatic scene at the time of the resurrection than Mark reported. Matthew tells us that the two Marys go to the tomb at dawn on Sunday - and everything goes crazy!
There is an earthquake; an angel descends from heaven and rolls away the stone and sits on it! The guards shake in fear and then go catatonic. And, in typical angelic fashion the angel tells the women not to be afraid!
And then the angel proceeds to tell them exactly what the angel in Mark told them. And, the women do not run away in terror, although this scene is far more terrifying than that depicted by Mark, but leave in fear and great joy, running to tell the disciples!
To say the least, that is different than Mark's report. But then it gets even more different, for Jesus suddenly appears before them, saying simply, "Greetings!" Matthew tells us that they are not afraid of him, or of him having appeared to them; but rather, that they come to him; fall at his feet, worshiping him.
He, like the angel, tells them not to be afraid, but to go tell the brothers to meet him in Galilee. Thus, in Matthew, we see not only that Jesus will meet the disciples in Galilee, as he promised, but that he first meets the women in Jerusalem, reassuring them of the truth of what the angel had spoken.
Clearly, Matthew has expanded Mark's account far beyond anything that Mark either knew about, or, at least, anything Mark chose to write about.
Matthew Expands on Mark and Adds New Material: Why?
All of these actions are to indicate that Jesus being gone from the tomb has nothing whatsoever to do with human mischief, and everything to do with God's divine intervention.
And, to top it off, in case there are any who still think that the dead Jesus has been carried off; we see a very alive Jesus who is actually called "Jesus" not "Lord." In other words Matthew makes it clear that this is the same Jesus who was dead that we now see speaking calmly to the women.
Whatever lapses Matthew found in Mark's account which he thought would allow the claim of the Jewish leadership that the body was stolen, are completely covered here by Matthew's detailed defense of what happened.
Lest, after all of that, we still think that there is any chance that the resurrection is a hoax, Matthew attempts to dispel all doubt by showing us that, even though foiled in their attempt to discredit the resurrection, the Jewish leaders try to continue the plot to discredit the resurrection long after the event.
What Matthew is doing here is trying to turn the tables on the accusers: arguing, in effect, that the hoax is not the resurrection, but rather the attempt by the Jewish leadership to cover up the resurrection is the hoax!
So Matthew lays it on even more, saying that the guards awakened from their catatonic state and went to the chief priests and told them what happened. Not content to let the truth prevail, the priests then bribed the guards with a large sum of money and told them to lie about what really happened! Listen: "You must say, 'His disciples came by night and stole him away while we were asleep.'"
Matthew says that the guards agreed, and took the money; and that "to this day" -- meaning when Matthew was writing his Gospel some 30 years later -- this lie still was circulating among the Jewish leadership.
Thus we see Matthew taking head-on the argument against the truth of the resurrection. Matthew becomes then the first great Gospel apologist for the Good News of Christ.
Matthew ends his Gospel on a much more positive note. The eleven remaining disciples, less Judas, go to the mountain in Galilee to which Jesus directed them. Matthew is unclear here as he never says when or how Jesus told "them" to go to a mountain, rather than just to go to Galilee. In any case they go there and see him and they worship him.
Interestingly, Matthew admits that "some doubted." This is undoubtedly reported correctly because Matthew would be very reluctant to put that in had it not been a key part of the testimony that was passed forward to him. Our text implies that some of Jesus' own disciples doubted, even after seeing him, since there is no indication that anyone other than the disciples was on the mountain top.
This idea was so repugnant to later redactors that some translations say that "others" doubted, implying that there were others on the mountain who saw Jesus, and some of those doubted, but that the disciples did not. While the issue is somewhat open to debate, the harder translation to swallow, that even after seeing him some of his own disciples doubted, is most likely correct.
Both Mark's and Matthew's Gospels are full of times when the disciples did not understand, and often doubted, both what Jesus was doing and what he said, including that he must die and be raised.
While we might wish that all of us were of one convinced mind on all important matters of the faith, the truth is that we are not. We are all individuals and are at different places in our own faith journeys. And each of us go through personal periods of doubt. I am comfortable with that as you know. I believe that doubt is a normal experience of faith development.
But many people are not comfortable with any doubt, including their own. You will have to make up your own minds, however, because there is no way to confirm the text.
What is clear is that when you read differing accounts of things that happened long ago, the logical thing to do is to accept the account that would be the hardest for the writer to accept, but could not leave out since it was part of the story as handed down.
What is far more important, however, than the question of who doubted that the Risen Lord was indeed risen was the instruction he gave them. We now call that instruction "The Great Commission."
The Great Commission is the basis for the mission of the Church, and is literally Christ's own instruction about what his disciples are to be doing with our lives. The fact that lay Christians most often do not do what he instructs us can be disheartening to those of us who like to think that we all should be trying to live as Christ would have us live. Regardless of how we respond to it, his message is clear and unequivocal.
Jesus' last words before his ascension are:
"All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you. And remember, I am with you always, to the end of the age."
Christ is clear. And it is equally clear that his resurrection was for the purpose of reestablishing relationship with us, and, through our ministry, with all humankind.
After he was risen Jesus said very little to us that is recorded in the Bible. This is by far the clearest message that the Risen Christ sends to those who call themselves Christians.
Sadly, very few lay people in the Church pay much attention to me when I tell them that the Great Commission is really what we should be doing with our lives. It is, they tell me, what we hire pastors and missionaries to do. But that is only partly true.
When I was a pastor I hated to be the one to tell them, they were wrong to think that the commandment of Great Commission could be foisted off on paid staff. The truth is that there is nothing a Christian can do in his or her day to day life that is more important than trying to fulfill the Great Commission.
The Abuse of the Great Commission and What Christians Should be Doing Instead
We are to offer the message of Jesus by teaching; offering what Jesus said and did during his ministry on earth as an example for all humanity. That is a far cry from the fervent proselytizing and "in your face" demanding of faith that has gone on over the centuries, and continues to this day.
That Christ wants us to do anything at all about sharing the faith is not a comfortable idea to many modern Christians. But at the very least Christians can show the way to Christ by the examples of how they live their lives.
They can invite people to "come and see" what Christians do, how they worship, what they get out of being followers of the Way, which is what Jesus did at the beginning of his ministry.
They can be warm, open, friendly and loving to those who do come and see. Perhaps those seekers will decide that they want some of that love, compassion, caring and learning that they see when they visit our churches. That is the kind of Christian activity I believe can bring the Great Commission to bear on 21st century Christian lives.
Next, in the final post in this series, we'll look at Luke's story of the resurrection appearances.
God bless all of you who have stayed with this series. I can't begin to tell you how good that makes me feel.
I particularly thank those who come and read who are not part of the Christian faith, but who wish to understand just a bit better what Christianity is about and what Christians believe. I work very hard at writing these posts in an honest open way that invites people to come and learn and does not push them away.
Monte
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Monte
Sometimes reading your stuff, I fantasize I am a Merovingian, some feudal lord being taught this amazing new religion...a rois faineant ("do-nohing"...ha!) getting instruction, but clinging with sentiment and loyalty to some... other Way. Some dark Teutonic understanding....that is not at all at odds with your good news...
Hm...Let me ask you, Instructor, was Jesus's commision to spread the Word, or the Way? Wasn't the ...poer?....the Holy Spirit....bestowed upon them? So that it was a natural thing for them to do in their "new state of human being" to go out and....not "convert", but
Show the Way...in action & speech...? So that a good pagan will stand somewhat in awe NOT of the damn theology or doctrine, but of the simple, "connected" Way these people have. Naturally,they will be...eager to share in such joy. They will ask, "What is your Way?"
I think alot of people get stuck on this. They have an instinctive intellectual or moral repugnance to being TOLD WHAT TO DO OR THINK....a doctrine crammed down their throat. BUT THAT IS NOT THE NEW WAY...The new Way is aindeed
a Way of Life, in profane parlance. The sacred seems to be infused in these "new people" as they go on their profane day to day existence...
Well, time to quit. The Godd Woman has come home & scolded me ..."What???are you on the Open Salon again?..." I am humbled and ashamed now, per her desire for attention. Ah, so what...
Monte, I am loooking forward to the next installment .... Yet also, John beckons to me...why do you...um...skirt around it sometimes? Or is that my imagination? Is truly a different kind of scripture...hm
James E....be well
I don't feel pushed nor pulled. Thank you.
Rated.
Everytime I read your incredible work, I'm thrown back to those many Sunday mornings at Holy Trinity. And every once in a while, a certain reading or homily will spring to mind, and I enjoy yet another "a-haaaa" moment, thanks to you.
You ask a wise question. Jesus said unequivocally that he came to proclaim the Kingdom of God. In his earthly life he used stories to teach.
The Risen Christ instructs the church to "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything that I have commanded you."
Now, since he said very little after the resurrection, he had to be talking about what he taught and commanded them during his earthly life. And what he taught them were stories that contained in them greater truths. The hidden ones we call parables and the other ones we just call stories.
While he was teaching and preaching this way he was at the same time teaching the disciples how to act and how to live what he taught.
There is no question that people do not want to have religion thrust down their throats. That is where Constantine went wrong and where Christianity took a long time wrong turn becoming a state religion (it had no real choice, either the Christians agreed to that or they were lion lunch) that compelled membership until the break of some of the church in the Protestant Reformation.
My own belief is that ordinary lay people will gag and choke on doctrinal statements and dogmatic theology, or on any set of propositions beyond the simple essentials such as expressed in the very short Apostles' Creed. And even Biblical theology is not palatable in the hands of a self righteous theologian who insists that his interpretation is the only possible one.
So, best to teach, instruct simply and without looking down on the students or seekers or even just people who are not interested. And any teacher is a fool who thinks that how he lives the "Way" is not important. Living our belief is often the single most appealing thing to another person. If they see that we live right and are happy living that way they may well say, "I want some of that for myself, whatever it is that he has. I think I will find out."
But don't damn theology to quickly. If it weren't for theologians who have pulled the leadership back from total dictatorship over and over, much as the prophets of old kept the kings in check at critical times, we would likely not have a church at all, or would have a church that was mandated to us by the state.
Theology can be the sword that cuts through the crap, (Like Huss, Luther, Calvin and Zwingli during the Reformation) the light that shows the Way in a darkened world (Like Bonhoeffer and the Confessing Church and the Barmen Declaration during Hitler's time), and the beacon that draws people back to the path that is the Way (as have Lewis, Barclay and Schweitzer in modern times).
BTW: we will not be looking, as I guess you gathered, at the Gospel according to John on this trip. As you know it is not one of the synoptic Gospels and to do even just the passion and resurrection in John any justice at all would take several posts. If you want someone who gets all wound up in theology and misses out on the simplicity of speech and story that Jesus says in the other three Gospels, well, John is your man. And if you don't want to get all wound up in doctrine and long theological speeches, then John is not your man. Anyone who doesn't know John's Gospel very well should go straight to it and start reading with no introduction or prefacing information if they want to thoroughly confuse the hell out of themselves.
Good comment from you. Good thinking on your part, Jim. I like it.
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Thanks so much, Buffy. I am glad that you feel comfortable reading these and can do a much better job coming to your own conclusions that way. That is indeed what I hope for with every religious post I do.
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Hi, Karin, I am glad that these posts are resonating with you and that you are able connect them to some good memories that you have. Thanks so much.
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Thanks, folks. Much appreciated as always.
Monte
I was also interested in your thoughts on the Great Commission. I would agree with you that the best way to share our faith is to live it. Instead of proselytizing and ranting and raving like many do, if Christians focused on truly loving God and neighbor, and on the corporal works of Mercy - feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, sheltering the homeless, visiting the sick and imprisoned, and burying the dead - we would have a different world. I wish I could visit with you in person, Monte. Hope you are feeling well today. Peace to you.
That said, this is, as usual, informative and interesting, Monte. Looking forward to Luke.
I fully understand why you have trouble with the credibility of Matthew's telling of the events surrounding the actual resurrection. He simply had a different job to do as his little church was surrounded on all sides by people who were making claims against the resurrection. So I understand where he was coming from but I too have serious doubts about his details.
If we did focus simply on the things you list, which as you know comes out of the same Gospel, Matthew's, that does so poorly in describing the resurrection, we would be far better off.
Thanks for thinking about my health. I feel pretty good today. Meds are fending off the pain pretty well. When that happens for me it is a good day.
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I completely agree with you, Boanerges.
Neither of us are fans of the Church Militant, which allegedly comes from the intention to create the Church Triumphant. What those folk forget is that the idea is CHRIST triumphant, not the Church. Small misreadings of things like that can add up to much evil being done by the Church in the name of Christ.
Maybe the Church will never actually be able to live down its checkered past. I hope it does, but have no clue whether it will I just know that we in the Church carry a stain of corporate sin that we need both to atone for and to admit.
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Thanks to both of you.
Monte
Well, you sum up 1200 yrs of history right quick there! Constantine was beholden to the new religion for his victories. Superstitious. He wanted doctrinal quibbles sewed up nice & tight, to please his....what?....Sun God, Christ? Guy stayed a heathen, didnt he? Or at least , some question if the sob converted. Expedency ruled the day....
Luther said, "Enough of these damn priests, and especially that damn decadent pope, tellin us how to live...I'll tell ya, baby...". Split. Good.Calvin! Zwingli!
Don't forget john Milton...
Radical Protestantism rears its head and is fought by Protestant Main Line and by the One True Holy Catholic Church... but perserveres in isolated areas of Europe....differerent ways of interpreting the Way, or the Word, or whatever... Parts of the Church, once a living organic societal body, split off....it is like Multiple Personality Disorder...with "THE CHURCH", the whole thing, as Sybil....
The personalities begin to "dialogue"...good...this is going on still...then....here's where I am unclear...
THE ONE HOLY TRUE MOST WONDERFUL CHURCK, Christianity conceptualized a s a whole, is now dialoguing with Eastern Churches....I mean Asian....There are what i call zensoaked christians...they love christ, he was a great little buddha with a ...nasty temper....a very judgmental guy...ach, it is just his culture, and anyway....who sez jesus didnt go th india anyway? lots of time unaccounted for...blah blah blah...
The problem is the other judeochristian, um, ...Abrahamic religion, Mohammedism. They are pissed. There is no dialogue I know of...
What do we consider this whole big thing....these religions, in a state of evolution, all of em? Is it one Big Family (who squablbles) or is it a real serious thing, this split?
The namby pambys say , "oh just a misunderstanding"...but....Christianity is the only religion with an historical sense, as you know...Time is not endless cycling, endless universes, 10000000 billion of em, like the buddhists say...
but one universe, with a beginning...
and an end....Isnt Christianity just a goddamn anxiety provoking fantasy?
Well, no...but it sure seems like it...
The end oft he world, the apocalypse, to a Blakean dude like me is best described by Northrop Frye in his seminal "Fearful Symmetry":
"the expectation of a "last judgment " in the new testament doesnt mean the christians of the time were the victims of
mass delusion....but that they saw
the material universe (ie our present timebound, kantian-category-bound, PERCEPTION o it....me...not frye)
as precariously balanced on the
mental cowardice of men.The resurrection of the body
means the resurrection of all the body,
and as physical body has a sex organ,
the sexual life (!!)It becomes a human sex life...sex is transformed...
"embraces are comminglings form the head even to the feet!/and not a pompous high priest entering by a secret place"....
that is why the apocalyspse is in the bible refered to a s a Wedding,
a union in love ...etc...
and as the risen body perceives the new world ,
the old one
perishes in "falmes"....."Why flames?
because fire is the greatst possible combination
of heat & light...
consummation...
The last judgment begins when man ceases to behold the creation in its fallen state"...
or something like that...
do you like frye?
he & harold bloom are my guys...
ok bye..
jim
Ain't that just the worst thing? ;-)
I will say that too much use of the old noggin and too little use of the old heart tends to lead to endless quandaries and questions and Catch 22s that can slowly drive one to distraction, or worse. Been there. Done that. Ain't ever going back to that place of angels dancing on pins, Popes pontificating and unionists unifying and puritans splitting. In the end it signifies nothing if none of it ever penetrates our being below the Adam's apple.
Blessings and peace.
Monte
Monte
Of course you know the anointed one George W. Bush has talked with Jesus personally, right?
It's men like him that hurt the image of religion and spirituality. He is as low as any human form. Someone should tell him that you tend to see things under the influence.
Sorry for my digression from the main point. I truly enjoyed reading this.
Take care,
Monte
I understand where yre coming from, old pal...
The heart, here, is just starting to bleed again...Luvah...Blakes's clever (or mad?) reference to the Zoa that loves...
Heart chakra, our sweetass Eastern friends say...
(Remember always, old scholar: The East is just recently out of slavery.
They enslaved themselves under the Paternal King model of Society for thousands of years....
Now they are organically whole still...as they always were & always will be....
as we in the West were before my fellow German countryman Dr. Loother...
razy as a wet hen, they'd say today...
religious delusions of grandeur...
me too...since is was 11 0r 12....burst out into
full delusional regalia when i was 26
and had my Mad Summer of 1993....
So if they are whole but not yet totally...um, individualized,
and we are way too individualized &
not really "whole" unless we
all subscribe to this ....well, delusional religion of yours...
(Understand, here, so there shall heretofore be no misunderstyandings between like minds, monte...
i am what the blacks call playin" here...
to play...that is the goal of all existence....
we strut & fet upon th stage, says hamlet ,
we go to get the mail one day in 1968 and
they "stone us top our souls..."
as the poet says, "everybody must get stoned"...
double edged, that: to be stoned or to get stoned are 2 antithetical things, but
the only 2 things in the universe,
under a certain perspective:
to incur guilt & sorrow &shame, etc, to take it on...
or to be a stone...a rock in the Lord...petra...petrified? the petrified forest in northern california is where dad took that 1950s family of his. May 16 woulda been his 87th if i hadnt betrayed him & allowed those sobs to get him....the world, i mean....(yah, i killed my father....He didnt kill me......he
retired from the scene when he saw the extent of my intellect......
he was in all respect to me, always...he adored me, he idolized me,
he created me...
father who art in heaven, monte,
has always been him...
jesus christ better be pretty damn impressive,
tell me something my dad didnt tell me,
for me to believe in him
and not george joseph, my father...
my intellect died on the vine with my heart when i was 11.......
my mind became a tricky little machine trying to figure out my best route of suicide...
"make yr ear attentive to Wisdom
and inclining yr heart ot understanding
if you indeed cry out for insight (IN- sight, lit. "sight-in")
and raise yr voice for understanding
then you will understand the fear (whose????) of the Lord
and find the knowledge of God"
Major major pt coming, as you can already sense....if you have had
yr amphetamines for breakfat....
undertstanding OF God.....
is god the object of this sentence,
or the subject
or both?
James E
"i am hanging on to a solid rock/ made / before/ the foundation of the world..."
Monte
Monte
"Psalm 139:1 O LORD, you have searched me and known me.
2 You know when I sit down and when I rise up; you discern my thoughts from far away.
3 You search out my path and my lying down, and are acquainted with all my ways.
4 Even before a word is on my tongue, O LORD, you know it completely.
5 You hem me in, behind and before, and lay your hand upon me.
6 Such knowledge is too wonderful for me; it is so high that I cannot attain it.
7 Where can I go from your spirit? Or where can I flee from your presence?
8 If I ascend to heaven, you are there; if I make my bed in Sheol, you are there.
9 If I take the wings of the morning and settle at the farthest limits of the sea,
10 even there your hand shall lead me, and your right hand shall hold me fast.
11 If I say, "Surely the darkness shall cover me, and the light around me become night,"
12 even the darkness is not dark to you; the night is as bright as the day, for darkness is as light to you.
13 For it was you who formed my inward parts; you knit me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made. Wonderful are your works; that I know very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you, when I was being made in secret, intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes beheld my unformed substance. In your book were written all the days that were formed for me, when none of them as yet existed.
17 How weighty to me are your thoughts, O God! How vast is the sum of them!
18 I try to count them--they are more than the sand; I come to the end--I am still with you.
Peace, Jim.
Monte
that is a good salm. I shall put it in my shirt pocket. or my walet.
why not...i am a sentimental man
after all....and i look
at the ruin of my fine family...
sisters and brothers,
2 of each,
divided
and never uniting except at the noble holy death ground, when mom & dad go
down to where they came from
only with a lot of experence to...relive? reivistit...?
why not?
no time in eternity...
Nietzsche, goin down gracefully alone,
said,
"let it not be yr honor
henceforth whence ye come,
but WHITHER THEEre GO.."
advised that planter of the future, the migty nietzsche who died in
mental disability. i'm gonna be a "peer counselor" and an "advocate" for the poor souls. Hopefullly theyll pay me someday
so i can stop worrying about tef bills...
blake:
"the eternal mind
bounded
began to ROAR AMD Roll
eddies of wrath ceaseless..."
why so?
whats ato be so mad about,
Mother?
To Mother:
trust is the
word of the day..
kl'
That we are ALL the ones, no matter which true religion. That's my version of Christianity.
And of thin terms of the Great Commission?: as you could guess I'm not a proselytizer. I converted to Roman Catholicism and am a follower of Buddha, and then there are the words of other saints and spiritualists. Jesus is the center of the faith that I grew up in and I'm a follower by choice. I am a believer of the resurrection. But, convincing people that I know "it" and that they don't, just ain't ever gonna happen for me, 'cause I don't believe that.
Christianity gives me steel and resolve and faith, and I try to live by that. If anyone is interested in why I am the way I am and what gives me the gift of love, then I'll do my best to explain. If that's the way of the Great Commission, that I'll do.
Having said that, I surely love these lessons. I reread them constantly.
d
to change things in his mysterious way. he sees everything as music, lucky bastard...little mozart m...f...er
...
well today i woke in a fleshy haze and my little dakini left at 8:30. See ...oh soem poetry os ers for the definitons....
the female deities: WHERE DO THEY FIT IN CHRISTIANITY, st patrick?
jim
James, in Christianity there is but one deity and that deity has no sex, neither male nor female. Many Christians believe, including the early Moravian theologian, Zinzendorf, and argue that the Holy Spirit is the female aspect of the Trinity. So do many of the later feminist writers who associate the Spirit with Wisdom which has a feminine aspect in the Hebrew Bible.
Thanks to both of you.
Monte
This was a wonderful Sunday morning read. I really don't have any issues with the seemingly contradictory (contradictory isn't the word I'm looking for, but it's the best I have pre coffee) nature of some of the Gospels concerning the resurrection. They almost seem fitting if for nothing more than to make the reader think.
"We are to offer the message of Jesus by teaching; offering what Jesus said and did during his ministry on earth as an example for all humanity. That is a far cry from the fervent proselytizing and "in your face" demanding of faith that has gone on over the centuries, and continues to this day."
I especially like the fact that you take this statement to heart. I've often considered people banging on my door and trying to sell "Jesus" to me rather pushy and invasive. I appreciate your approach far more productive in spreading the Word and I thank you for that.
I swear you should be looking for a publisher for your religious posts. Even if it were one of those on line publishing houses. Who knows? What ever proceeds could be put to good use.
Until next time..........
I am glad that you have some work. This has to be tough on you. Yet you are one of those who fall through the cracks when they count the "unemployed" since there is no catagory for the "under employed." If we counted all the people who are employed now and then and/or employed and cannot make ends meet, or employed part time the number that we throw around about 6 million unemployed would triple!
I figure that with so many ass holes running around pushing religion down people's throats, adding me to the list wouldn't make a ripple. But I would never do it anyway. Not in my genetic makeup to foist my ideas on other people. I am more than happy to share them with others and many have decided that they agree with them, but that has always been their decision, never mine.
Have a good weekend, whatever part of it you can get.
Monte