msLaura

msLaura
Location
Saratoga, California, USA
Birthday
December 13
Title
Boss Lady
Company
The Portable Baby
Bio
Slightly eccentric mom of two little boys, running an online store for mobile parenting gear, former professional web designer and bookworm, now too busy to do anything but run as fast as I can to stay in place and try to document everything I can before I forget it.

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NOVEMBER 19, 2008 8:03PM

Waiting for the Radish, and drooling over other cargo bikes.

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I just ordered my Radish, check her out:


I've been looking into a bunch of different 2-kid configurations, and finally decided on this one (different base bike, just look at the kid seats):



Except that I got some canoe seats that are more thickly padded on bottom, taller in back (for better upper body support, possibly nappable in Adrian's case?) and a little bit shorter in the seat.

So I will need to attach the seats for the kiddos, and then I got a set of "stoker bars", which is basically a set of handlebars that attach to my seat post, so Adrian will be able to hold on to something if he wants to.

I can't wait to get my new bike. I'll be able to go do my grocery shopping and run errands, go to the gym, pretty much everything.

I went back and forth for a LONG time between this bike and a Bakfiets, which is a Dutch cargo bike also known as the "Amsterdam Minivan"







There is an awesome, very detailed review of the Bakfiets here, if you are interested. And if you want more photos of ALL different sizes and configurations of these Dutch treats, see the Bakfiets Flickr group


I am feeling a pang of remorse right now about not getting a Bakfiets, because MAN, they are really fucking sweet. However, I chose the Radish for a few reasons.

1) It is less than half the price. The Bakfiets delivered (closest dealer is in Portland) comes to about $3250. Expensive for a bike, but totally cheap compared to a car. Remember...no gas, no oil changes, almost zero maintenance. Still...I don't have that much right now. I saved up about $1500 for my Radish and accessories, and I don't want to have to wait until I can save twice that.

2) The Bakfiets is heavy. It's remarkably nimble, but it does handle better when you have a load of something inside it. Right now I would always have a load of kids + whatever, but a few years down the road, maybe not, and I don't want to have to get a second bike for times that I'm riding without cargo. The Bakfiets is also not all that great on hills, as it was perfected in Amsterdam, which is flat as a pancake.

Still, I do feel some regret. Having the kids in that fine wooden Bakfiets box, safely harnessed into their bench seats...that sounds safer than the two kid seats on the back of the Radish. Plus on the Bakfiets I could actually carpool and carry *several* kids at once, up to four! I can't carpool with anyone now in my station wagon because I can only fit two carseats in my car, which are already occupied.

The Bakfiets also has a lovely rain/cold weather cover for the box, so the kids stay nice and dry and toasty in inclement weather. Oh well, I live in California, so this isn't *too* much of an issue for me.

I would also relish being able to carry more than four bags of groceries + kids, which is my probably limit on the Radish. But hey, I'll just have to start going grocery shopping at Trader Joe's more often, and not wait until the situation is so dire that I need to buy half the store.

Anyway, I am thrilled with my Radish, and I can't wait until it arrives and Mike gets it assembled. I am thinking about carrying them in my store for local customers, already assembled, with the two-kid seats already added.

Speaking of two kids on a bike:

This bike carries up to 8 kids


This Danish model (the Christiana) carries up to 4 kids on two benches:


A front tandem bike that can carry two kids (the front kid can help pedal, or not, works either way)


And there was a totally sweet Dutch bike that I saw yesterday that had two built-in bike seats for kids on the back, and a big cargo basket up front. Gorgeous. Can't find it now though.

Bikes! Screw cars, I can't wait to get my two wheels out on the road.

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Interesting post, and very cool bikes.
Until 1940's, when the Nazis took away all the bikes in Holland , went house to house and simply wrenched them away (and there were many, as you all knowabout Holland) We children grew up with each parent sporting two of us on their bikes , one child in a seat in frontand one in a seat on back ;we were a family of six ready to go. Practical, healthy, entertaining rides on the flat bike lanes of Rotterdam, not to mention the ride through the flicker-lighted Maas Tunnel from our suburb of Blijdorp, which dispensed us into
Charlois , home of both sets of grandparents. What is so memorable about all this was the sense of adventure amounting to risk for the kids and the chance for togetherness and display of the kids on a Sunday afternoon for my parents. I say Sunday afternoon because Dutch Reformed Church families did not use the tram (trolley) on the Lord's Day so bikes were necessary. Nobody we knew as yet had a car ; the Nazis would have taken those first anyway.

Since 1949 we have always lived in a hilly suburb of New Jersey and the bike custom did not survive the move. Today I am the grandparent who gets visted by three grandkids via plane from Los Angeles. When they get here I show off my skills on my "autoped", a scooter with air tires that zings me down our two-acre driveway to the mailbox just the way it got me around the city streets of Rotterdam in the late '40's ,when postwar production of bikes and scooters was back in full swing.
Thanks for triggering the memories.
Adriana Storm Mahony