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APRIL 6, 2011 1:03PM

What I Wish to See on Salon Cover: Sections

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Roxanne

I want my life and my reading to be in my control. With the way things are on at OS right now, As a reader, I am not in control.

We have Food Tuesdays and Fiction Fridays and so why not a What We wish to See on Cover story every once in a while to let the Editors know what the readers want - free of charge?

I opened the Cover today - just now and was attracted by the lovley flower picture of the Bishop's Garden. But there was nothing else that appealed  because I realised I was looking for reading material tonight  that would make me sit up and read all night. Or write page long comments. I found nothing that  interested me. I should have liked fiction tonight. Or at least History stories. But all the titles looked boring. Promised nothing particularly exciting to a foreigner. The Prison piece a bit, but not now, I thought, not at bedtime.

As an INTJ person I like order and system. It helps me find stuff quickly, saves me reading time.

It made me think these thoughts:

  1. I want clear cut sections on the cover.
  2. I want clear cut sections featuring Book Reviews - American Book Reviews - American Regional Popular Literatture
  3. American Music Section featuring bios or studies or critique or analysis not just plain reiews - because American Papers are rare around this part of the world and Rolling Stones is available only in select cities and is way to expensive.
  4. American Movie Section - I dont want to read about classics but about popular fare that ordinary people liked and that became a box office hit with the Americans in American - never mind how it was received in Europe or elsewhere.
  5. American Lifestyle Section - most of what went on today's cover can be slotted as Lifestyle material except perhaps Matt Paust's post which I did not read and am just surmising from what I read in the catch line on the cover. Food and What I Could Write About My Legs and Why I want to Save My Grandma's Relics etc all fall under this category.
  6. A Separate OS Fiction Section - for creative writers. So the days I come here for creative writing I always find som. 
  7. A separate OS American SocioPolitical Economic writing section featuring stories about American politics, social issues, economic issues etc
  8. Travel to Little Known Destinations in America like Tink had done and some others.
  9. American Diaspora Writing Letter from the US or something like that. The foreign settler's view of the US.
  10. Let the Feed change Weekly not - every hour or whatever is the frequency now. Or at least Bi-Weekly - in keeping overseas readers in mind. We operate from different time zones and therefore that would be nice if OS did not run my life and I could come on in at my leisure to look for what I want. The feed changes too fast as of now. When I was not working and spent my entire day on OS it was okay but now that I am back at work it isn't. Once something disappears off the Cover it is difficult to find it again.

If there are Sections, ALL the niche writers would get a chance to do their thing, and well, everyone would stand a btter chance at being featured on the Cover because the Cover would need filling up.

Readers can easily go to their favourite section without having to wade through material they did not want in the first place. When I want to read fiction at bedtime, I can simply click on the fiction link and not have to wait for Friday Cover!

Will Emily give it a thought please?

Vogue

Which is a Better Cover? Which one helps you choose faster? Is diverse?

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I love the idea of sections on the OS homepage ("cover" to use the old-school print equivalent). I would be less specific than you though, and just make it something like "Entertainment," "Religion," Politics," "Food," Lifestyle," "Humor," "Miscellaneous" etc.

But for a feed to be a feed, it has to be "real time" so I wouldn't want to make it a longer wait than it already is.

I do join your wish for a better search option to find articles by OSers that we may have missed. One way to do so is to allow us to better organize our "favorites" so we can keep better track of the bloggers we already love. Also, make the search box better to bring up more relevant results (not just tags) of the content we're looking for.

Finally, is it too much to ask to have an option where we would get email notifications when people comment on the comments we post on other blog entries? It would surely keep some blog entries in the public eye for a longer duration and draw me back to some of them that I might otherwise forget.
What wonderful ideas! I don't have any particular problems with the front cover except that it lacks my postings! :)
I have wanted sections for a very long time now and it does not happen no matter what.
If my vote counted for anything here.....
at last Nick Leshi reads my post :) but am sad no one ever rates my post even when they think I make sense :(
Try again. They just put up today's cover
Patricia, in 2 years you got 6 Editor's Picks - :) SIX! Your pieces are about American Life and if they were featured oftener in a dedicated American Life by Americans SECTION, foreigners could find them easily and you would get more of them am sure.

Mission, your 2011 Editor's Pick was gorgeous but sadly for you my dear friend, my blog isn't where the OS jhoond (band) that have the clout, gather, so no one would even know about this post or your vote. But your vote and voice and support matters to ME. Let us keep clamouring for it and see what happens :) Emily, they say, 'listens' - thank you for your comments and the rate
Satori, it is already midnight where I am and am tired - just reached home after a two night's journey - OS would not wait, I know. I can only hope I don't miss too many good posts until am back here about 12 hours later tomorrow afternoon lunchtime. IST.
You may prefer Salon.com, vs Open Salon - the format there is more like you describe. OS is far more local, and the 4 hour feed gives us up to the minute postings, along with tabs to view most reviewed, most rated, most read, most recent, if you want to break it down a bit more. There's nothing worse that a 3 day feed, even a 12 hour feed is painful, and I can't imagine a weekly feed. Most of us wouldn't be here if that were the case. If you want a weekly magazine, try the New Yorker, the Times, etc. which may be more suited to your reading style based on what you've shown and said here.

I would like to know what section topics the editor is looking to fill each day - humor, politics, food, human interest, nature, debate, home and family etc... so that we might target those - it's a win-win for OS.
Gabby Abby - am not interested in a forum where I do not blog or am not a part of. So Salon isn't for me. I am interested in a blogging site that specifically caters to blogger's needs and bloggers' choices. Also am not interested in what others rated or what others viewed. I decide what I rate or view or is important to me - so I should like SECTIONS based on SUBJECTS not what others did or read. Thank you very much.
a delayed feed would mean posts stay up longer, get better attention and hence demand quality writing and give editors time to choose well and not in a hurry. Hurried feed change cater to mediocrity - good work takes time and as such deserves to stay visible longer to make sure everyone has had time to see it. Bi Weekly should be good. I don't spend all my hours here - also am overseas, living a day ahead of you - hence time is imp for readers like me. You must realize OS is international ONLINE and everyone does not live on US time. If you want better and wider visibility you take the international readers into consideration. And we do come in here FOR LOCAL fare.
Sections have been batted about before, think Ed I Tor even said something about it as well, basically, HOLD YOUR BREATH TILL WE'RE DONE WITH SALON.COM and that was like close to 2 years ago!! :D

Rated!
I rated you. And I get it--especially on the weekends. Then I just scroll through the tab labeled editors picks-or through most recent. There are a lot of things missed. Good stuff. Get some sleep
And it isn't ON the cover, but there is a tab at the top marked TOPICS.
Tink, was just about to sign off when I saw this - you know now is the golden time at OS, if they want more for their readers and writers and find good material fast - it makes sense to have writers tag appropriately and then they can find it all easy and be able to have a more varied, wholesome, attractive to publishers-niche readers Cover. Good posts get lost here not only bec feeds change so fast but also bec I cannot find them later.
Thank you for casting your vote in favour of the demand for SECTIONS and that gives this a better chance to be heard.
Satori, yes, thank you, wanted to answer you bef I hit the sack - 1) TOPICS isn't the same as Cover. 2) Also, topics tab works only with material that has been properly tagged. Most people here do not bother to tag or even when they do, tag appropriately. So "Fiction" may not necessarily pull up only works of fiction but many other postings that have been playfully tagged 'fiction'. A lot of visual space is wasted in displaying all the tags this poster may have used for this particular piece. 3) It is a time consuming laborious process selecting material from the OS Topics tab.
SUCH good ideas! I have questioned the logic of our website's facade many a time. I think most of what you proposed seems just plain sensible. Rated!

Oh and thank you for reading my fiction piece!!!
I rarely use the cover to find something to read, but if I did I'd like it to be divided into sections such as Politics, Arts, Fiction, Travel, etc. If my local newspaper can do that I don't know why OS couldn't.
I think it's inevitable they'll head in that direction, though for now we can at least be thankful it's no longer dominated by recipies! (My god, I'd had enough the day it began and it went on for a couple of years! I even fought with Joan Walsh about it and she didn't take kindly to my pronouncements.)

My add is there should be a "Weekend Magazine" where features and op-ed summaries are solicited.
I think this is a very good idea. the writers on the site have grown dramatically but the real estate hasnt. the editors should also consider appointing associate editors for the separate sections.
there is a vast amt of untapped volunteer labor here but the software architecture does not currently support it, and probably will not for the foreseeable future.
Nana - hope someone out there is listening and doing basic section divisions isn't hard - all they have to do is to change some of the widgets or perhaps re-name the tabs.

BenSen - I hadn't thought of the Weekend Cover - that is a wonderful idea, the Sunday paper was always such a delight to get just bec they had those Sunday extras. For Op-Ed and Features they could assign five writers from the members every week and choose the best. That way all the good writers get to showcase their work every once in a while and they still get work for free! The writers feel happy.

VZN - I like your idea: they have a built in PM system that could be used by members or volunteers or associate editors. The time would have to be adjusted, and there has to be someone sitting at the OS desk attending to the associate editors feed and take action on it immediately. The associate editor sends in links to material or edits to someone at OS, who then immediately logs in from his OS ID and makes the changes online. Even with hundred pieces it should not take more than three hours. The feed time would have to slow down a bit. That is all. With the way things are now only about 8 stories go up on the Cover - which isnot much. The associate can have 3 volunteers under him sending him links too, from which he selects the best, and that team of three can change. There can be a rolling system. This way they can involve more readers in the process of selection and thereby make more people happy. And if they can pay the associate volunteer editor say, a couple of hundred dollars or so for a month's work, is it so bad? Am sure OS can afford that much? It is only a token of thanks.
Good ideas Rolling. i wish they would listen
Rated with hugs