DECEMBER 21, 2009 4:45PM

Piss On My Head And Tell Me It's Raining

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                                                            Pecunia Regnum!

 

I'm getting sick of hearing it. The official version of reality, which is being bought by a lot of people who should know better, is that the health care reform bill in the Senate right now is somehow a victory for us all.

Bullshit.

The party line, as per the guidance of David Axelrod and the gang, is that, given the realities in Washington, the bill was as good as it could be, and that considering the alternative we should be grateful for it.

Bullshit.

They tell us that the good things in the bill outweight the bad, and that we all need to just get on board with it and stop complaining.

Bullshit.

What they don't discuss much is how the bill will impact people at the street level, people who were counting on a bill designed to help them, not one which amounts to a further empowerment of insurance companies, companies whose stock is now soaring by the way as Wall Street rubs it's hands in glee.  As the vultures on the Hill croak about what a victory this is, they don't mention that they'll continue to receive their platinum-grade government supplied insurance while millions of regular citizens will be mandated to purchase tarted up versions of  the same dodgy policies they couldn't afford before and which will be no more affordable now.

Could someone please explain to me how this is a victory?  How is a bill which forces me to purchase insurance I can't afford from the very same predatory companies which the supposed "reform" was meant to reign in progress? How is a bill which introduces no competition into the market progress? How is a bill which will do nothing to lower costs for health coverage progress? How is a bill which is basically a giveaway to the medical industrial complex progress? And how is Obama giving up the fight before it even started progress?

It comes down to this; there were two possible ways the president could have approached the goal of health care reform:

1. He could have taken a case to the American people that a single payer system, or at least one which had a strong public option, was in their interests. He's the president; no one has a stronger bully pulpit from which to speak, and he could have used it to great advantage, going over the heads of corporate interests to convince the public, who wanted real reform anyway, that serious change was necessary and desirable and possible. This is the route that would have gotten us meaningful reform, and which I at first expected him to go.

2. He could go the route favored by Rahm Emanuel and his corporate sponsors, the route of never even putting single payer on the table, and of only paying lip service to the notion of a public option, thus ensuring the support of the corporate sector, of insurance companies and big pharma and the like.

The latter route, though it guaranteed a shitty bill with no real reform in it, is the one Barack Obama chose. Why should any progressive, or any working American who's going to get stiffed as a result of this bill, call it a good thing? It is not a good thing, nor is it a victory; it's a sell out, plain and simple.  

So to all those who tell me that this is the best we could do, and that I should just unquestioningly bend over and take one for the team, I say:

Bullshit.

Unwavering loyalty in the face of betrayal is fine for dogs or herd animals, but I'm not down with it, sorry.  They can piss on my head and tell me it's raining if they want to, but I know the difference between the two.

 

 

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Can I just tell you it's raining?
Its one BIG CLUSTERFUCK (without the fun) :(

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Hi ladies:)

Pecunia regnum!
OK, seriously, unwavering loyalty is always a dangerous thing. Questions must always be asked.
They can piss on my head and tell me it's raining if they want to, but I know the difference between the two.

I, for one, would love to hear a description of how and when you found out the difference.
A kingdom without wealth?
That's easy Frank; I know the difference because I don't buy the bullshit foisted off by shills for the White House.
Greenwald is one of the good ones Jane. I'll go have a look.

And Outside Myself; there's plenty of wealth, but it's not for us little folk. We're just cash cows for the corporate sector and their whores inside the Beltway.
By the way…the “It’s either unwavering loyalty or trash the sons-a-bitches” reminds me of the old conservative bumper stickers “I’d rather be dead than red!”

My question when I saw those on a bumper was always: Isn’t there something in between???

My question on the former is: You mean if I am of the opinion that a start (no matter how small) is more helpful to the final objective than “just saying NO”…that means that I am dog shit and should go somewhere else to live?
That's not what I'm saying at all Frank. What I'm saying is that mindless loyalty in the face of repeated betrayals doesn't help anybody, including Barack Obama. Maybe if he realizes that he's permanently alienating a large chunk of his base with his reversals on vitally important matters he'll make better decisions.
"So to all those who tell me that this is the best we could do, and that I should just unquestioningly bend over and take one for the team, I say BULLSHIT!"

Be careful, Limbaugh just may make you grab your ankles while you're at it!

Even more galling is the crowing that will inevitably come from the neocons as we move into mid-term elections.

If this country has no stomach for true reform, it would have been better to go down with the courage of conviction, but alas the base has fallen back on the old saw: Politics is perception

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good piece about the realities of power; meet the new boss, same as the old boss, master townsend.
to be fair, they are so bankrupt, they are just trying to survive moment to moment at this point.
sometimes, if you can't change the pee, it helps to get through the day to pretend it is rain, because under survival conditions, even pee has its place potentially. :)
My cousin got paid a hundred bucks to piss onsome demented german doctor at The Houfbreu . Will you pay? I know how to piss.
That's not what I'm saying at all Frank. What I'm saying is that mindless loyalty in the face of repeated betrayals doesn't help anybody, including Barack Obama.

Maybe saying “Give him a chance to do it his way” is not “mindless loyalty. Maybe saying “pass the bill…it is better than nothing” is not “mindless loyalty.

Maybe if he realizes that he's permanently alienating a large chunk of his base with his reversals on vitally important matters he'll make better decisions.

Maybe many of us think he is making the best decisions anyone could make in the political climate in which he is working. Maybe all of the options suck big, big time. Maybe he is making bad decisions because “bad decision” are the only kind open to him. (Many of us did warn of that possibility!) Maybe many of us think all this alienation has less chance of resulting in better decisions than it has in bringing back far right-wing bullshit that will make even the bad decisions Obama is making look like diamonds.

Is there any possibility of any of that, Nanatehay...or are the only possibilities that exist the ones you say exist?
It's not just "raining"; it's POURING!

This bill -- in fact, this entire "healthcare debate" -- has always had one main focus; maintaining as much of the status quo as possible. The artificial and pointless deadline that caused everyone to force a bad bill through Congress is a large part of the problem. That deadline had no foundation or purpose other than to play politics with something that has serious, long-term ramifications for average citizens.

Rather than adhering to that ridiculous, pointless deadline and forcing a bad bill, they should keep pushing for some of the REAL REFORMS that have all been gutted from the debate. The current bill does nothing other than make some minor changes to the regulations and administration of insurance. That is not REFORM.

We need to boot out of Congress about 90% of the representatives and insert a completely new Congress. The current model is totally dysfunctional.
You're right. Rick is right.

Who created the deadline? Obama did. He can stop this unreform in its tracks and send them back to do better by saying he won't sign this horrible bill, but he won't. Obama is bought and paid for. Just this past week he started bombing a new country, killing more innocent civilians.

Ignore Apisa. Obama could sodomize a two year old on stage and Apisa would claim the kid pushed back. Then Apisa would volunteer to be next all the while claiming he was smarter than the rest of us and clued into political reality. I can't wait to read how Apisa justifies all the deaths in Yemen. They must have been asking for it.

Jane Hamsher put together a point by point email showing how fucked up the Senate bill is. I have it is a post today - but Harry reports the html is hosed. I'm not seeing errors in firefox though. Hamsher provides more ammunition about how dreadful this piece of crap bill is. monkey fingered.
Rick…you know I respect you, but your comment We need to boot out of Congress about 90% of the representatives and insert a completely new Congress. The current model is totally dysfunctional.

…says it all.

That is not a solution any more than they should keep pushing for some of the REAL REFORMS that have all been gutted from the debate is a solution.

The political realities have to be recognized and acknowledged.

You are NEVER going to 90% of the Representatives. Even the most ardent haters of congress, when asked about their own congressperson, says that person is an exception.

You are not even going to come close.

The bill…if it passes…is the most that could be obtained in this political climate…and is a hell of a lot more than most people ever thought would be obtained at this time.
By the way, Rick and Nanatehay…I’d be interested to know if either of you agrees with BBE that “Obama could sodomize a two year old on stage and Apisa would claim the kid pushed back. Then Apisa would volunteer to be next all the while claiming he was smarter than the rest of us and clued into political reality.”
I call it the outlaw bill, because it essentially turns me (and you) into outlaw(s). When, I (or anyone) chooses to, or can not afford to buy insurance we will be fined or jailed. Even if I was wealthy I would not be legislated into buying the thieves "product". This is a disaster for all. Yeah, Frank, you too.
Frank: "Maybe he is making bad decisions because “bad decision” are the only kind open to him."
How do you figure Frank?
As Nanatehay said: "He's the president; no one has a stronger bully pulpit from which to speak, and he could have used it to great advantage, going over the heads of corporate interests to convince the public."
To which I would agree. HE COULD HAVE. Except that the corporate interest and his are one on the same.

See ya... off to pack my bags
This is bullshit and even the republicans know it. The poor of this country are again fucked by Big Business and politicians too scared to vote their conscience. I'll go to fuckin' jail before I pay them for care thats worse than I have now. Obama said we would have health care as good as they have. Bullshit. I voted for this man, but they would have to really run a piece of shit to get my vote again. As a matter of fact, I am now an independent. To hell with the democratic party!~
Me thinks you're yelling out: I'm mad as hell, and I'm not gonna take it any more ! Right? Like Albert Finney in "The Network"?
~R
well, I keep waiting for the big Reveal, the big, Okay, kiddies, I let you run things and you've fkd it up, and here's what I've got to say about My Bill.

And it ain't happening.

I'm SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO beyond mere disappointment.

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO.

{moue}
Ariana; trash for us, pure gold for the insurance companies and big pharma and all the other usual suspects.

Fusun; that's exactly it.

Connie; until fairly recently I was still waiting for that too. I'm slow I guess.

Scanner: " The poor of this country are again fucked by Big Business and politicians too scared to vote their conscience" That's about the size of it. But people like Frank keep telling us that's OK, as long as the fucking is done by Democrats.

Trig, that's what Frank and the other apologists for Obama don't get; this bill will make us outlaws for the crime of not ponying up our money to parasitical insurance companies who've proven over and over that the bottom line takes precedence over providing good coverage. As of course it must; they're privately run, for-profit entities for Christ's sake. The thing is, and this is for Franks's benefit; under George W. Bush, I couldn't afford insurance. I still won't be able to afford it under Barack Obama, but it will now be a fucking CRIME for me to not be able to. If that's his idea of a good deal, he can keep it.

BBE, the deadline is ridiculous, I agree. It's political theater, intended to make Obama and Reid and the other sellouts look good. The only thing worse than shitty legislation is shitty legislation which is rushed through before anybody affected by it gets to weigh in. Not that we'd get to weigh in if they gave us forever; democracy only exists in this country to the extent to which you can pay for it. Where are the lobbyists for the poor and working classes? Answer; there are none.

Rick, we definitely need a new congress. More to the point, we need campaign finance reform, and a reversal of the ruling which calls legal bribery from corporate lobbyists "free speech."

Handyman, I'll be the pisser for the demented German, but not the pissee for your cousin. That's just how I roll.

Don, I've been trying for a long time to pretend it's rain, but my ability to sustain the delusion is weakening.

Iconesis, thanks for coming by; you say "If this country has no stomach for true reform, it would have been better to go down with the courage of conviction, but alas the base has fallen back on the old saw: Politics is perception"

Yep. Apparently, the appearance of reform matters more to us than the reality of reform. Can anyone say "dog and pony show" ?
You're right. Money is king.
Listen now, please. I am pissed too but who are the villains? How all the lying talking heads like Maddow, Olberman, Ed Shultz and others who constantly harped that "the Democrats have control of all branches and can't get anything done." This was and is a lie. I blame those lazy fucks and the real traitors---Lieberman, Ben Nelson and the Southern Blue Dog dicks and bitches who sold us out. They had D's behind their names and still acted like Right Wingnuts. Democrats never had 60 votes and thus were NEVER in control of the situation. The fucking SENATE is the problem--the House Bill would have been great progress. Obama couldn't do that much to change the Senate dynamics--How do you deal with traitors--This is all getting out of control. 55 of the Senators were in favor of great changes and true reform. Five or Six of those cumstains ruined it all. To blame Obama and call him a "sell-out" and then lose all reason by saying things like I keep hearing such as " they are all the same, both parties! They are all in the corporations' back pocket. Have we all lost our fucking minds? Are you kidding me? The same--Senator dicklips, Grassley is the same as Senator Durbin? Luger the same as Senator Boxer? Have you all gone nuts? The corporations are just the cover for the Neo-Cons and if you underestimate the Neo-Cons then we are all doomed. Bitch, cuss and yell--I will be with you. I want change in this area too, I need healthcare badly. But don't blame it all on Obama. Don't ever forget that always, always and always in the background are the agents of the Military/Industrial Complex that Ike warned us about. They are laughing and plotting as they watch those of us on the left divide and quit. A I don't want to hear anymore stupid shit like--Nader was right--fuck Nader he was the reason Bush got elected. Iran is next on the Neo-Cons hit list people and if we let them get power because of our anger well--I have no words.
Kyle; in other words, you're saying "I don't want to say I told you so, but I told you so." The bottom line, and it's not one which is a revelation to me, is that neither party gives a damn about the interests of regular people.

Coyote, "Money is king" you say? I thought Pecunia Regnum meant money rules, but then my Latin is not all it should be:( Either way, they need to put that on the Great Seal of the United States, and replace the eagle with a vulture dressed up in top hat and monocle, smoking a cigar made of money extracted from the American citizenry. We bail out Wall Street with our tax dollars, and in gratitude Washington is doing all they do all they can to turn us into serfs for the insurance companies. PECUNIA REGNUM!

BBE, I was just watching Jane Hamsher on the Ed Show, discussing how this bill amounts to a massive transfer of wealth to insurance companies and other parasites, with criminalization of those who don't want to go along with it. She's of course right; health care "reform" is the best thing that ever happened to the medical industrial complex.
Never has anything like this been legislated. A LAW that would make us pay 8% of our incomes to private corporations. This will result in trillions of dollars in windfalls for the same corporations. And this is a good thing? .. yeah right.
amen.
http://open.salon.com/blog/lisa_solod_warren/2009/12/20/health_care_shouldnt_be_a_cake_walk
I foresee as in California where you must have car insurance but you also must pay more to add Uninsured motorist to your account to cover your ass from those who have no insurance. Can anyone sing Ring Around the Rosy! You don't think it's gonna happen. Someone has to pay the piper...
I hate to disagree with You, BBE, but I think the most likely scenario is that frank would say: "Give him more time." It's hard coded into his "mind."
You got that right. Amen, bro.
I agree Dr. Spudman; there's plenty of blame to go around, and it's not all on Obama. The Senate is a pack of whores and thieves, and the people around Obama are no better. Still though, he's the president, it's his role to lead, and so far he hasn't done that. What's worse, as I describe in the post, it seems that he made a conscious decision to reach accomodation with the medical industry, rather than making a strong case for reform directly to the people. He gave responsibility for roughing out the initial version of reform to Baucus and his cronies, thus ensuring that single payer was off the table, and he never gave more than lukewarm support to the public option. I don't want the NeoCons back any more than you do, but I'm not going to give Obama and the other Democratic leadership a free pass just because they're better than the alternative. It's our job to hold politicians accountable for their actions; if we abdicate that role, which we largely have actually, we deserve whatever subpar shit they try to hand us while calling it a victory.

Trig, "trillions of dollars in windfalls for the same corporations" Exactly. Ain't democracy great?

Hi Lisa:) I'll go have a look.

Lunchlady; exactly. The thing is, they've got us coming and going, and even if we stand still. They always win, because we always let them.

Mark; play nice now!

John; thanks for reading. I'm just puzzled by people who can't see it; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know we're getting ramshafted.
Oh, and Kyle; it's all good! I will say this though; the only party that's even more corrupt and could care even less about regular people than the Democrats is the Republicans. As much as Obama hasn't yet delivered on his promises, he's about 10 times better of a president than W ever was. His ability to speak in coherent sentences is a breath of fresh air, I can tell you that. Merry Christmas and peace back at you!
In all honesty, I am going with Kyle D. on this one. I think what I am angry about is I was taking in initially by Obama; I think many of us were. But, I don't think the Repubs are the answer either - that is where Kyle and I MAY differ (I said "may" Kyle :) ).

What I hold onto is that we did come together as a nation and we can do so again. No matter what the Democratic religionists say, this bill is counterproductive. It gets us less than what we had before and lines their pockets in the process - that is pure evil and it creates a hybrid of capitalism which is very dangerous. Forget socialism - if this folds - we can literally implode as a country. It is all carrot and no stick.

I, too, believe congress needs to be replaced and the reform needs to come from a grass roots movement outside of Washington. I am ready, are you?

Who's in?
I think the whole damn system is screwed up. This ain't healthcare reform, it is a money grab by the insurance companies. I hope I go to jail for not getting the new insurance cause I ain't paying for it.

I think the congress is so CORRUPT that we need a new one. Just look at the PAC's who give money to them for their votes. Please tell me they ain't bought and paid for Nana.
Revolution is coming. I damn sure hope so, anyway.
I'm in Sparky, though I'm a carpenter not an activist. I learn fast though.

Mission; a revolution of one kind or another is what's needed, there's no question.

And Kyle; I get shotgun!
Honestly? This bill was ALWAYS about Economic-Recovery-Through-Insurance-Reform as opposed to health care. Insurance is nothing more than a payment vehicle and frankly there was NEVER anything in the proposed legislation OTHER than the payment vehicle.

45,000 people allegedly die each year due to lack of health care... what specifically in the "health care debate" addressed the 200,000 PLUS (according to the CDC) who die every year due to side effects of medications and medical error?

Insurance is NOT "health care". Hell for one third of the population of the United States insurance isn't even the much vaunted "access to" health care.
This isn't reform. It's a time bomb just like everything else Obama has done. The man has no convictions other than the holiness of his re-election. If he thinks something will get him re-elected then it's good, if not then it's bad. Seems we elected two Presidents in a row with a Messiah complex. "I must be President or the world will go to hell!"

Once you've made that leap to suspend reality then trash becomes gold and reality becomes trash. Protecting greed is not his job but he's completely possessed by the idea it is.
You are 100% on target on this one. What a piece of work. What a beautiful system we have. It’s close to home for a hog farmer, the snorting pigs trying to snoot each other off the feeding trough to just get a little more… It’s sad indeed that the decay in our system corrupts a man like Obama, who seemed to be walking to a different drum beat. what a pisser...
Please don't insult pigs, who are at least honest.
MrsRaptor, Harry, Max, Lea; thanks for reading. Speaking of pigs, they can put all the lipstick on this thing they want, but it' still gonna go "oink oink oink." No disrespect to swine intended:P
I had the most interesting conversation today with an ultra rw NRA supporter. To make a long story short, it's called "Living In America." We can all sing along. We had a great conversation, and I'm a guy who believes in the strictest gun control.

What's relevant to what you're saying is, first of all Obama is a 100% political realist. And as a politician, more than anything he wants to get elected. From his perspective, what he really wants to see happen personally is immaterial if his wishes and beliefs collide with political reality.

And how close am I to reading Pres. Obama's mind? I spent years living in his neighborhood in Chicago, going to the same grocery store he went to. And Rahm Emanuel used to be my boss.

The reality of the good ol' US of A is, we're fighting two wars, unemployment is at 17% (really), and we're trying to do global warming at the same time we're doing health care, and you want me to do WHAT?!!?!?

There's only so much political capital guy has to spend in DC, and I can guarantee you that almost any alternative approaches to the health care bill would have gone down in flames. After all, look at how many times it's been tubed in the past. Both Roosevelts, Truman, Johnson, Carter, Clinton all lost -- many times by one vote in Congress.

The whole thing makes me wish that I lived in a USA/alternative universe where we had President Bobby Kennedy and President McGovern as historical figures, but that's not in the cards.
L. Lane - right, my bad, and they smell better too...
Wow. I am not getting any less depressed. My issue is: what is our choice then - if not Obama, then who? I don't see an electable progressive or Independent on the horizon. Palin et al would be infinitely worse. I feel stuck.
*unzips his pants and pisses on nana's head*

IT'S RAINING!!

*wanders off*

(Okay, I didn't read your article yet, but I thought the title was telling me what I suppose to do!! TEEHEEHEE!!)
P.S.

Did you expect any different from the same government that sends out a kabillion page bill and then gets mad when folks want to read it before they pass it?

I mean, come on, who knows what is in that bill, they could put, EVERY CITIZEN OF THE U.S. OF FRUCKEN A GETS A VENERAL DISEASE OF THEIR CHOICE....

Hurray.
Who else? We're who else. We start holding them accountable. Really accountable. Get ready for some real activism - the time is now.
I wish that I could have gotten away with such weak bullshit. But noooo... I had to kill myself trying to do a good job, and for what? So lame butts could stay home and become bloated, corrupted and useless?

They don't even care about concealing that they are bought and paid for. They don't even care about doing what they were hired to do.

Maybe they know something that they are not telling us....

Underground bunkers, anyone?
Lefty, I feel like we're living in an alternate universe USA right now. If you'd told me 10 yrs ago we'd be involved in two land wars in Asia and torturing people and trying to dodge the Great Depression 2.0, I'd have laughed in your face. It's like a bad sci fi movie.

Blue in TX; we're stuck, there's no mistake. When we have to say "Well, our guy, beholden to corporate interests as he always is, is still better than the alternative" it makes you realize just how little *choice* we actually have in who leads us.

Tink, I think giving people free STDs, as long as we get to choose which one it is, is a great idea. I want crabs; the scratching gives me something to do when I'm bored.

Flamin' Joe; welcome to my blog! And I like your comment; succinct is good as far as I'm concerned.

Sparks, as I said above, I'm a carpenter not an activist, but I learn fast.

Zuma, I'll start digging my bunker in the back yard tomorrow. I've got plenty of ammo, but I need canned goods; I think a trip to Aldi is in order. I love those generic spaghettios.
Anyone ready for a cricket bat revolution yet?
Sorry my friend, we don't get to choose which disease we give.

Stupid government!!!

*wanders off*
But in jail, we get free bread and water right?

AWESOME!!

I ain't payin'!! PFFFFT!!!

:)
Cricket bats for those want to obstruct; STDs for the rest. And PoorSinner, you can tell me "I told you so" all you like, as long as you get back here and rate this post. I rated yours you bastard:[
No Tink, under our new, increasingly privately run prison system, which will be seeing an influx of non-compliant insurance criminals, water is free but bread is only given if you agree to counsel people for their STDs.
Always good to know the difference between rain water and urine...unfortunately, some people will swallow anything...
Hear, hear!

It's tough when there's a politician in the Oval Office and you thought you voted for a person.
Leonde, we need to collectively refuse to believe the official versiom of events; calling piss rain water doesn't make it so. If enough peole come to that realization, the liars and criminals in power have a much harder job maintaining the business as usual mindset.

Joy Mars; I knew we'd be getting a politcian, but sometimes even they get things right. So far though, they ain't getting it right for anyone but the corporate sector.

PoorSinner, to all of the above; back at you.
I'd be curious to see what kind of infraction it will turn out to be, not purchasing an insurance policy. What if everyone demanded a jury trial? I'd like to see that logjam.
Sirenita, you may be onto something. Civil disobedience might get their attention, coupled with a logjam in the court system.
Nana, great post. My opinion is simple. Let's put people back to work and then work on health care reform. How can people buy health care if they don't have a job? Sounds pretty simple I think. This crap can really depressing if we think about it too much. A bunch of rich guys in Washington making decisions on our fate. I don't like it one bit. Now I am depressed. ~R~

~goes to look for his Zoloft~
I've said it before and I'll say it again, I left when Bush got re-elected. My health insurance here in poor-ass Mexico is $300 per year. I have access to basic but clean, modern hospitals throughout the country.

Corruption is rampant, poverty rules, but if they can do it, why can't the US?

(and, oh yeah, I live on the beach.......)
This is the best we can do... For the profits of the health insurance companies and drug makers. The "change we can believe in" is the change in the pocket of big biz.
To you folks who are really pissed off about this bill, in keeping with the parlance, I wish there were more of you and more progressive congressmen and senators could get elected. Given gerrymandering, ineffective campaign finance regulation, and the widespread level of ignorance that allows Rush & Fox News to inform the views of millions, I can't see a big change in the makeup of either house anytime soon. But keep on fighting the good fight.

I still think Obama's heart was in the right place. I do not understand why a protracted filibuster seemed to be something to be avoided at all costs. Why not drag the issue out and pitch the heartless Republicans and their Blue Dog followers as the obstacles to a great proposal that most Americans want? So what if it took another year. Why not wage the pitched battle on an issue where you're in the right and most voters back you? Am I missing something?
Goo poimt Alaska Progressive; why does the reform always benfit he status quo?

Janies, I think we need a rain slicker not an umbrella.

Ginny, I need talk to you about how to make it dowm there. I am not kidding.

Lionspride, it can be depressing. It's important to remember tkough; w e and only we can affect real change. Our system in DC is broken; if you have money, you count; everybody else cam lump it. That has to change.
Baby, Trig is dialing into San Blas as I type. (He asked me about the "senorita" situation........and I fucking loved it!)

It's getting down to the high 60's as I type....the tequila is very cold, and I can hear the music from the plaza as I type. 'Tis the funky ass place to be kiddo.....
Cindy, why they listen to is beyond me. It has do with fear I think, and complete lack of avbility to think cleary.

And Ginny, it sounds like the exact place to be, as near as I can see. Everytime I've been to Mexico I've loved it. The people, the differen pace of life, a sense of values where human interaction takes precedence over the machine we have to battle here daily.
It ain't easy to get your shit together to get here, but ultimately it is well worth it.

You would be welcome here honey.....
"water is free but bread is only given if you agree to counsel people for their STDs."

Welp, better than what I'm doing now, water ain't free!!! Woooo! From what I understand though, the bread is cheap, which is good too!!!

I'm sooooo going to love being a Rebel Without a Clue.....

*wanders off*
Is someone pissing on your head or is the sky falling? Could be both.

I have argued exactly as you have since Brake Obama first skittered directly to the center and said "Boy's, let's compromise" to the party of NO which also stands for New Orleans, another prime example of "compassionate conservatism" at work.

BULLSHIT

Speaking of which the bullshit artists posturing about abortion in this bill make me want to puke. They insist on their right to insist no money be spent on abortions because of their "family values", while at the same time insisting they have no responsibility to care for these children once they are born.

BULLSHIT

Marie Antoinette is supposed to have said "Let 'em eat cake" and these boys seem to be saying "Let 'em eat bullshit". Let's hope they meet with the same feet as she did.
I wonder, I worry. It's a cold world indeed, Nana!~
I think you're right on the mark with this post.
Yes, the Democrats could have done much better if Obama had used the bully pulpit. Still, I join Krugman in saying "pass the bill."
Here's why:

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/18/opinion/18krugman.html?_r=1
Tink, when you're Rebel Without A Clue, can I be your lovable sidekick, Joey Lobotomy?

I liked the title too Life 4 Rent:)

Tom, I do see a guillotine in the future for some of these people, or at least a bullet-pocked wall to stand in front of.

Tai, if you live on Main Street instead of Wall Street, it's gettin colder by the week, and I'm not referring to winter time.

AKA, I almost included my picture of Tzipi Livni in her bikini but didn't; maybe next time.

And Steve; Krugman's a smart guy; I'll check out the link.
You ungrateful piece of shit. You should be grateful for all the major accomplishments Obama and Congress have achieved for the little people. As soon as I can think of some I'll get back with you. You assbag.
You're right Drew. I should be grimacing in pleasure right now and yelling "Thank you sir, may I have another!"
Krugman's off the mark this time (and he has been before). Arianna has no blinders on.

And this just out:

National Nurses United, the nation's largest registered nurses union and professional organization, declared on Tuesday that the Senate health care bill gives away too much to insurance companies and "fails to meet the test of true health care reform."
Harry, I just read the op/ed piece by Kruman; here's how it concludes:

If these tactics work, and health reform fails, think of the message this would convey: It would signal that any effort to deal with the biggest budget problem we face will be successfully played by political opponents as an attack on older Americans. It would be a long time before anyone was willing to take on the challenge again; remember that after the failure of the Clinton effort, it was 16 years before the next try at health reform.

That’s why anyone who is truly concerned about fiscal policy should be anxious to see health reform succeed. If it fails, the demagogues will have won, and we probably won’t deal with our biggest fiscal problem until we’re forced into action by a nasty debt crisis.

So to the centrists still sitting on the fence over health reform: If you care about fiscal responsibility, you better be afraid of what will happen if reform fails.



I find that amusing, and here's why, though I've already stated it in the post and in comments:

Under George Bush, I couldn't afford health insurance. Under this new bill, I still won't be able to afford insurance, but it will be a fucking CRIME for me not to be able to. This bill is a great thing I guess if, like Krugman and the other spinmeisters, you already have insurance. For the millions of us who don't have it because we can't afford it, all it will do is turn us into criminals unless we can somehow find the money (maybe by cutting back on food and other frivolities) to pony up to the insurance company bandits. That's what the apologists for Obama and the financially comfortable supporters of this bill consistently ignore; it amounts to a massive transfer of wealth to the medical industrial complex, with a government enforced criminnalization of those who are financially unable to comply. Would someone please explain to me, because no one yet has, why I'm supposed to be pleased at the prospect of going to jail or paying stiff penalties for not having a government-mandated insurance policy from the very same rat bastard companies I couldn't afford to buy one from to begin with? Please tell me why I should be jumping with joy at the prospect of the government making me a serf to bandits who've already proven that they'll use any dirty trick in the book to maximize profits. Somebody? Anybody?
Yes, the supporters of it look at this in political terms of whether or not it should pass, they speak of political practicality instead of human pragmatism. There's a reason they are waiting five years for implementation and that's to distance themselves from the final disaster. It's an open secret this will fail.

Ever see that ex-insurance executive on Olberman? He explains exactly how the insurers will game the system and that's why their stocks have soared with the looming passage of this bill. Wonder if Frank will put his money where his mouth is and short sell insurance stocks since he's so "sure" this reforms the industry :)
Nanatehay, here's why you should be pleased you deadbeat; by bein incarcerated in one of our many new privately-run, for-profit prisons, you'll be helping out the economy. Sure, privately owned prisons are ultimately financed by the taxpayer, but that's the wave of the future. For all of you whiners who think capitalism is threatened by the Obama administration, I say this; with Washington still giving Wall Street all the leeway they need to milk money from taxpayers, and with the increased privatization of once government run institutions (think contractors who now do much of what the military and our intelligence agencies used to do, and of course, privately owned prisons), this is a GREAT time to be a capitalist in this country. Capitalism on the taxpayer's dime; what could be greater?
Harry, somehow I doubt Frank will put his money where his mouth is.

And Raoul, thanks for that. Thank you sir, may I have another!
But Raoul, isn't "capitalism on the taxpayer's dime" just another word for corporate welfare? Or worse yet, socialism without the benefits to regular people?
Good point Kali. Still, as we've been told for decades now, if the rich get richer and corporate profits continue to rise, we'll all do better eventually. You just need to have faith; the corporations and their employees in DC know what's best for us; I've been hearing that my whole life, so it must be true.
Good job Nanatehay-- You've expressed exactly how many of us feel about this dog of a bill.

Firedoglake (FDL) has been on top of this healthcare "reform" issue--as Rick L. pointed out the bill is about "some minor changes to the regulations and administration of insurance"--not real healthcare reform.

Read about the individual mandate: "The Unholy Trilogy For Insurance Profits: Individual Mandate, Broad Age Rating, And Hardship Exemption."
Obama has no political credit anymore. He is a man who knew how to get elected, but has no idea how to be President.

He's made too many rookie mistakes for other pols to be scared of him. His bully pulpit is more like the bully who bullies then runs away and cries when you punch him in the arm. The Repubs are smug, knowing that there are just enough Dems who can be bought to prevent passage of anything too scary.

Everything that people loved is disappearing fast. His eloquence? Not without a teleprompter. His promises? Broken. His ideals? MIA, ATM.

He pays for White House trips for groups of doctors and nurses so he can trot them out for the cameras, then makes them all wear white coats so us sheep at home can tell that they're doctors. I'm surprised they didn't give them all stethoscopes and a little black bag too; he's in cozy enough with Big Pharma and the insurance companies now, I'm sure they would have footed the bill.

His approval ratings, particularly among specific groups, continue to decline. He couldn't get them to jump if he offered everyone a free pony in exchange for a lie when the pollsters call.

So, instead of Hope-and-Change Obama, we find that we have mistakenly purchased Sleazy-Used-Car-Salesman Obama for an insultingly inflated price.

Bottom line is that Obama NEEDS this bill to go through, just to have a chance at not being remembered as a mere figurehead. He's going to sell it, and sell it hard.

The bill stinks. I can't see where it's helping more people than it's going to hurt. And passing a lousy bill just to be able to say that it's a first step is ridiculous. A step backwards leaves us worse off. Change for the sake of change is just stupid.

If the bill is even marginally successful--or if they can spin it as such in a plausible way--then there's no need to tackle this tricky issue again, is there? And if it fails, we'll go through 2 Presidents before anyone's brave enough to attempt it again.

What I'm even more frightened of is what Obama would take on next if he gains back even a fraction of his political losses, because I have a feeling that education would be next up.

Until the majority of citizens and their elected officials agree that access to quality healthcare is a right and not a privilege of wealth, reform is not going to be of much assistance to those who need it the most.

For those feeling helpless: don't. The contact info--including phone and email--for your elected officials is easily available online. Let them know how you feel and what you want...and tell them what you're going to do if you don't get it.
Zen Haitian, Sick Of Stupid; thanks for reading.

"Until the majority of citizens and their elected officials agree that access to quality healthcare is a right and not a privilege of wealth, reform is not going to be of much assistance to those who need it the most."

Exactly so. The trick is going to be to convince them of that. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it's going to be an uphill battle. As things stand right now, the majority of people in this country, either through apathy or ignorance or despair, have disenfranchised themselves by not even bothering to weigh in on this. Until that changes, all we'll get from Washington is continued betrayals.
Great post!! Just doing a "Drive By".. Wanted to tell ya.. Merry Christmas and I hope you have a great one..
"Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining".

I like that one better. I think it was the title of someone's book.
Thanks for the drive-by Fireeyes, and Merry Christmas to you too:)

And Blackflon, I think your version is how the saying actually goes, but mine seemed more evocative:P
Didn't you buy into the "Oprah-speak"? It's ALL about FEELINGS and EMOTION and we can better our lives just by will alone. Tell that to the other passengers on the nard-bomber jet or the square heads gunned down at Ft. Hood. Heaven forfend we should hurt someone else's heart whilst watching them roll civilization to hell in a hand cart. It wouldn't be proper.