“As far as history goes and all of these quotes about people trying to guess what the history of the Bush administration is going to be, you know, I take great comfort in knowing that they don’t know what they are talking about, because history takes a long time for us to reach.”— George W. Bush, Fox News Sunday, Feb. 10, 2008

In an informal survey of 109 professional historians conducted over a three-week period through the History News Network, 98.2 percent assessed the presidency of Mr. Bush to be a failure while 1.8 percent classified it as a success.
“It would be difficult to identify a President who, facing major international and domestic crises, has failed in both as clearly as President Bush,” concluded one respondent. “His domestic policies,” another noted, “have had the cumulative effect of shoring up a semi-permanent aristocracy of capital that dwarfs the aristocracy of land against which the founding fathers rebelled; of encouraging a mindless retreat from science and rationalism; and of crippling the nation’s economic base.”
“George Bush has combined mediocrity with malevolent policies and has thus seriously damaged the welfare and standing of the United States,” wrote one of the historians, echoing the assessments of many of his professional colleagues. “Bush does only two things well,” said one of the most distinguished historians. “He knows how to make the very rich very much richer, and he has an amazing talent for f**king up everything else he even approaches. His administration has been the most reckless, dangerous, irresponsible, mendacious, arrogant, self-righteous, incompetent, and deeply corrupt one in all of American history.” (From History News Network)

I was discussing George Bush on a blog site (not OS) recently and made the following comment:
Shrub's not particularly stupid but he's not particularly bright either. What was actually more notable about the man during his time in the White House than his IQ or lack of it was his disengagement from the day to day activities of his job, from the processes of governance. He didn't want to be bothered by details, or absorbing large amounts of information, or thinking on more than one level about things. He didn't like being bothered by many of the activities his job entailed in fact, which is only natural in a man so lacking in intellectual curiosity, a man who was proud to mention that he rarely if ever even bothered reading the newspaper. When you combine all that with the fact that Dick Cheney definitely was interested in the processes of governance, the result was one of the more unusual presidencies in American history, and arguably one of the most disastrous.
Someone on the site took exception to my remark, and among other things asked me:
What exactly was that disaster that happened under Bush?
After I finished laughing, I thought about answering in a comment, but decided it would take too much space on someone else's page, and that's without even mentioning the way W inherited a huge budget surplus but left us with crippling deficits, the steadily widening gap between the haves and the have nots in this country, the increase in levels of poverty, the erosion of civil rights, the rolling back of environmental legislation, the fact that we're more polarized a nation than we've been since the '60s, and oh by the way a near total economic meltdown.
Anyway, I've put a little thought into it since then and below is my reply, at least part one of my reply. It would take a post longer than this one to enumerate all the ways in which George W. Bush was a monumental failure.
What exactly was that disaster that happened under Bush?
Oh my, where to begin? The one that leaps to mind first is the wars.
After 9/11 we went into Afghanistan, which was only natural. There are those who say we should never have gone there but they're wrong; that's where the people who'd hit us were, and there was no way we were not going to go for them. Things went well initially and the Taliban were soon driven out, though Don Rumsfeld (and this is one instance among many where W should have been making the decisions himself rather than letting underlings set the agenda) erred badly by not inserting a battalion or three of Rangers to close the back door when we had Bin Laden at bay at Tora Bora. If they had used US forces rather than local warlords to block the escape routes into Pakistan we might not be engaged in the drone war in Waziristan right now, might not be bogged down in Central Asia at all in fact. Worse than letting Osama go though was the decision, taken sometime in spring of '02 and possibly even earlier, to invade Iraq. There was no strategic or logical reason to attack the Iraqis. None. They had nothing to do with 9/11, they had no real WMD capability, as our intelligence community well knew, and many in Bush's own government, people who knew what they were talking about, advised Georgie in no uncertain terms that invading was a really bad idea. He went ahead with it though, largely because that's what Cheney said he should do.
The rest as they say is history. The Neocons and other chicken hawks had visions of an Iraq transformed overnight by the might of American arms into a shining beacon of democracy, of an Iraq serving as an example of what other nations in the Middle East could and should become. They imagined a grand domino effect of freedom and Western (especially American) values cascading from Iran all the way to Libya and beyond. The reality has been somewhat different, to say the least. What have we gained as a result of Operation Iraqi Freedom? What have we lost?
The first casualty of the decision to invade Iraq was our mission in Central Asia. Once we'd decided to get Saddam, resources and focus which were necessary to stabilize the situation in Afghanistan were no longer available, with the result that our policy there became one of just muddling along and hoping the Taliban wouldn't be so ungentlemanly as to make a comeback. Rather than working in a serious manner to help build a viable government, we were reduced to relying on Hamid Karzai and assorted drug kingpins and warlords as allies. As anyone who has followed events in Afghanistan has seen, that hasn't worked out so well, and the result is that nearly nine years on from 9/11 things are worse than they've been at any time since winter '01-'02. The bottom line is that if we hadn't decided to invade Iraq, it's very unlikely that we'd be bogged down in Afghanistan right now. George Bush took his eyes off the ball, and we're still paying for that today.
In Iraq, the invasion itself was a masterpiece of planning and of superior American technology and military science. Within weeks we were storming Saddam's palace in Baghdad, and Hussein himself had slunk off into the shadows. The thing is though, as Colin Powell told W before the invasion, "Once you've broke it, you've bought it." We'd been told by the Neocons (who had it on good authority from fellows like Ahmad Chalabi and others on the Pentagon payroll) that the Iraqis would welcome us with flowers and dancing in the streets, but that didn't happen. Even as our commander in chief made his victory speech, dressed in his heroic flight suit and standing in front of a banner proclaiming "Mission Accomplished", an insurgency was growing in Iraq, one which continued to worsen for several years and which tested the US military to near breaking point. Though a change in tactics on our part, coupled with what's now called the Awakening movement among Iraq's Sunnis, allowed us to narrowly avert defeat, the net result of all the blood, treasure, and effort (not to mention all the dead Iraqis) we've poured into Iraq has been a long way from what anyone with any sense would call victory.
Why isn't it a victory? Saddam is gone, AQI has largely been defeated, and there's a fairly democratic regime in Baghdad, so we won right?
Well, not really.
George Bush famously referred to Iraq once as a member of a supposed "Axis of Evil." The other two members of the triad were Iran and North Korea. So what has transpired with this Axis since W made us aware of it in 2002?
Iraq: Of the three members of the Axis, Iraq was far and away the weakest, and most of the world's intelligence agencies knew that they posed no strategic threat to the United States. Or to anyone else really. Yet we invaded, and seven years on, after trillions of dollars spent, after thousands of American and tens of thousands of Iraqi lives lost, the net benefit to us is the installation of a government in Baghdad that is somewhat democratic. There are some who argue that having Iraq as a platform for US bases has enhanced our strategic posture relative to the Persian Gulf and its vital oil reserves, but that's nonsense. We already had such a platform in Kuwait and some of the other Gulf states.
Iran: Since our invasion of Iraq seven years ago, Iran's position has actually grown stronger. Though they were at first somewhat shaken by the ease with which we overthrew Saddam, they regained their cockiness after they saw us becoming mired in a vicious insurgency/civil war. As we've bled ourselves in the sandbox of Iraq, Tehran has grown ever more confident that it's safe from the US military, has grown ever more assertive in the region, and it is now generally understood that we're a year or so from Iran being able to produce its own nuclear weaponry. Operation Iranian Freedom anyone?
North Korea: Since W's Axis of Evil speech, the North Koreans have demonstrated that they have a nuclear capability, albeit a limited one. They've also proven that for the right price they'll help others to build their own nuclear programs. Yet Kim Jong Il was given pretty much of a free pass by the tough-talking Bushies. Why? Because messing with North Korea didn't sound as fun as toppling Saddam I guess, and because most of our attention has been on Iraq, and now on an increasingly dangerous Islamist movement in Central Asia.
So much for the Axis of Evil. Operation Iraqi Freedom succeeded in eliminating the least threatening of the three, while allowing the other two to become more dangerous. Nice work Georgie.
There have been other consequences as well. The Russians and the Chinese and, well, everyone, watched closely as we leaped into Iraq, and they watched even closer as we faltered and floundered and bled there. The net result has been a growing consensus among world powers that the US and its vaunted military aren't quite as scary as everyone thought. There's also the troublesome fact that the readiness and general ability of the Pentagon to respond to an unforeseen crisis elsewhere in the world has been severely compromised by years of grinding attrition in two wars.
Another result of going into Iraq has been that we've surrendered the high ground in the view of much of the world community. America talks a great game about the rule of law and so forth, but actions speak louder than words, and we've demonstrated to the world that as far as we're concerned, using naked power to accomplish your goals is OK as long as you have enough naked power. In other words, we've proven ourselves to be hypocrites and thugs. Some people relish the notion of others fearing us, and I guess it's a good thing when the bad guys are afraid, but we've combined our thuggery this time around with a fairly large amount of incompetence, so the message has become "The Americans will attack like a rabid hyena when it suits them to, but don't worry, they aren't that good at it."
Does all this constitute victory or disaster? For some, that will depend on which side of the political spectrum they come from. Most objective observers though agree that invading Iraq was at best a mistake made with good intentions and at worst one of the greatest strategic blunders of the last half century or so. I tend towards the latter view myself, but I'm guessing you've already noticed that.
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This was more informational than any news program has given in a long time.
Thanks man
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victory or disaster?
HA!
OK righties... the bait has been cast. Come and get it!
i love when you get all political and write intelligent, grammatically correct and sublimely punctuated stuff for the edification of someone foolish enough to ask a question that stupid. nice work, jeff.
But here it is: ZUMAPICK! This is one of the best articles and summaries of events during the BA, ever.
" They imagined a grand domino effect of freedom and Western (especially American) values cascading from Iran all the way to Libya and beyond."
Isn't it ironic that, 40 years ago, we lost all of those lives while trying to stop the domino effect of communism?
Stacy, I was surprised too. I used to break down the Internet into two basic components; Open Salon and porn. But it turns out there are actually sites which don't fit into either category; go figure.
I do hope someone from the Right side of the aisle comes by Trig.
Candace, the thing that puzzled me about the question was that it came from someone who was obviously quite intelligent and well-informed. I guess it's yet another case of someone who bases their world view on ideological bias rather than facts on the ground.
Thanks Robin:)
Scanner; yeah, it didn't work out quite that way did it?
Zuma, as I was writing this, the domino effect of communism so feared by hawks in the '50 and '60s was replaying itself in my mind. The failure of either domino effect to take place is illustrative of the way in which think tank policy dreamers and chicken hawks then and now choose to live in cloud cuckoo land rather than seeing the world for the way it really is.
Trig, way to keep the discussion moving!
Lezlie
Just like the oil in the gulf stream.
Yep, that about sums it up.
You're like that guy that sits in the back of class in a battered leather jacket and jeans all year, missing classes but acing the final and then saying something to me as we go our separate ways for the summer that makes me think, I shoulda paid more attention to that dude.
"He really did suck" said the preacher at your side, and the Choir cheered.
Save for Billy Bob, who still had his hand up, asking why Jesus was being persecuted.
Bible Camp was cruel to the boy.
Rated.
That said, it WAS rather ungentlemanly of them to resurge.
Robin; me too!
Sandra, that's one of the nicest things anyone ever said to me!
Jonathan, thanks for the read and the comment.
Doug, I'd aver that the horse is still very much with us. Sadly, Billy Bob still views the world through the filter of lies fed to us for eight years by the Bush administration, and Billy Bob is legion. More important though than the fact that a depressingly large percentage of Americans STILL believe the Iraqis are who attacked us on 9/11 is that the legacies of the Bush era are with us today. We've got an imperial garrison sitting on bases in Iraq, are fighting a seemingly endless war in Afghanistan, and are killing people in Pakistan. Repercussions from past events don't end when the events themselves recede in the rearview mirror, they keep spreading like ripples on a pond, and we're still very much paying for the supposedly dead horse of the Bush administration. Plus the question, "What exactly was that disaster that happened under Bush?" deserved answering in a more than perfunctory fashion. That motherfucking, draft-dodging, cretinous Texas frat boy pretty much ruined my country. That still bothers me; go figure.
Robin, where are the Edward Murrows in today's media? We need them.
Rancorous it is Trig, but it makes me smile.
The Taliban are nothing but a lot of first-rate cads Cappy! How very gauche of them to not just lay down and die.
Good grief, are they kidding???? The whole THING was a disaster!
And I agree--it's hard to telescope eight years of clusterfuck into a short post.
As for the turd you shut down, I am certain his legion of Billy Bobs will simply face that truth with the same beer stinking breath of ignorance that such strong and personal faith provides.
As a member of the Choir though, I do indeed applaud your noble effort.
Shiral, thanks for reading! Yes, there was no way I could fit my reply to such idiocy in a single comment.
Doc, that's the thing, this person, though rather unpleasant and obviously somewhat myopic, seemed to be a well-educated, intelligent person. No drugs beyond blind ideology were involved as near as I could see.
The underpinnings are very seriously in place Doug. I read a book a while back called "Democracy, Inc.", by Sheldon Wolin. Here's an excerpt from a review of it I found online:
Quote:
To reduce a complex argument to its bare bones, since the Depression, the twin forces of managed democracy and Superpower have opened the way for something new under the sun: "inverted totalitarianism," a form every bit as totalistic as the classical version but one based on internalized co-optation, the appearance of freedom, political disengagement rather than mass mobilization, and relying more on "private media" than on public agencies to disseminate propaganda that reinforces the official version of events. It is inverted because it does not require the use of coercion, police power and a messianic ideology as in the Nazi, Fascist and Stalinist versions (although note that the United States has the highest percentage of its citizens in prison -- 751 per 100,000 people -- of any nation on Earth). According to Wolin, inverted totalitarianism has "emerged imperceptibly, unpremeditatedly, and in seeming unbroken continuity with the nation's political traditions."
The genius of our inverted totalitarian system "lies in wielding total power without appearing to, without establishing concentration camps, or enforcing ideological uniformity, or forcibly suppressing dissident elements so long as they remain ineffectual. A demotion in the status and stature of the 'sovereign people' to patient subjects is symptomatic of systemic change, from democracy as a method of 'popularizing' power to democracy as a brand name for a product marketable at home and marketable abroad. The new system, inverted totalitarianism, is one that professes the opposite of what, in fact, it is. The United States has become the showcase of how democracy can be managed without appearing to be suppressed." Unquote.
Pretty much.
..and yes, it's too long so I'm only going to read it twice.
Apparently from your tone, you don't agree but you don't take him on either so I guess you were looking in the mirror.
And Cappy, lighten up man. Sheesh-a-roni!
And Doug; it's one of the more insightful reads I've had recently about the state of democracy in postmodern America.
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Dub will be the historical marker for the decline of American power and prestige.
While revisiting the disastrous fustercluck that is Bush is like having a Drano milkshake, I think you did a fine, and even somewhat restrained review...in spite of Holden Waldenberger's detailed deconstruction.
Agreed Kathy. I did actually consider voting for Mccain in '08, for a brief while at least, 'cause I used to respect him. Then he trotted out that Palin woman during the Republican convention and after I was done projectile vomiting I mailed off my ballot for Obama. I do wish though that the current administration would do more to distance itself from the policies of the Bush era. The more time that passes though the less likely it seems.
And Paul, it's great to see you! I'm still hoping that Mr. Waldenberger returns to show me the errors of fact or interpretation in this post.
I haven't been around this pinko web-site for a while so I thought I'd drop in for a dose of liberalism. Your expose' o'the Bush years is actually fairly well measured. He wasn't our brightest shining star. That's a given at this point.
BUT, may I remind you that the deficit that was once his is now OBAMA'S. Like it or not you closet cock sucker. I am sick of people saying it's all Bush's fault. Waaaaaaaaah and whiiiiiiiine!
OBAMA wants our guns! His spending on domestic bullshit is off
the hook. Who's going to pay for it all? I'll tell you who. Not you non-working libs who lay around sucking the tit of those who work. Oh no. It'll be BLOGojevich footing the bill. I'm waiting for that Nigerian bastard to raise MY taxes and be assured he has teams studying on how to do JUST THAT as we speak!
I'm not done with you. My hooker just showed up. Back in 5 commie.
Mr. Canoodlerehay. You said "Another result of going into Iraq has been that we've surrendered the high ground in the view of much of the world community."
To which I say. DUH, and who gives a flying torpedo fuck about the pansy "world community?" We need to take care of our own, and to do that we need the oil in Iraq. If Bush could have got four more years Iraq would be the 51st state by now. If that had happened then we'd have plenty of oil and BP wouldn't have had to drill that mile deep monstrosity that blew out a couple of weeks ago.
Therefore, the gulf oil spill is 110 percent liberals fault. If you girls would have listened to Reagan we'd have a three term limit now and this country would still be free under Bush, AND we'd have an extra state... with OIL!
torture torture
secret prisons secret prisons
constitutional violations constitutional violations
assassinations assassinations
casual murder casual murder
abuse of english
there are differences, as you assert, although obama's 'necessary' looks like the 'wmd' of afghanistan to me.
the differences are not significant. main one is ability to craft and speak a whole sentence. his war-crimes would be enough all ready to hang a japanese general.
the gulf oil spill can be ascribed to bush, and cheney. but obama only 'discovered' the need for action after the disaster. health care turned out to be a bait and switch, he is willing to continue and expand the inroads on personal rights begun by dubya.
he never said: "if elected, i will hang dubya," because he intended to do the same. no one can be elected on a platform of pursuing war criminals in the previous government. the empire can not be turned, there is too much investment in the past. that's no excuse for not being clear-sighted about what america is.
What galls me (among many other things) is how someone like Palin can talk about common-sense solutions when her party has (and still is) immersed in fantasy - fantasy that has consequences (tho, often, not for THEM).
What you've outlined is so obvious - hardly even verges on opinion, but outlines facts and, yeah, common sense. Why would even that 1.8 percent of historians disagree (unless they're the Very Very Rich of the historian community)? But even more infuriating, the person-in-the-street should be able to apply common 'commonsense' and see this.
Yet Republicans have gone even crazier...and Obama's tepid efforts to deal with the messes he inherited (including ramping up the totally stupid unwinnable war in Afghanistan) are denounced by these people as leading to (blah blah...)
Eh, off to eat some spam. Fried, with eggs, it's not so bad.
Soooo rated.
I was going to say that a carpenter is more likely to have good opinions than a journalist or academic, who deal in words-words-words, and 'ideas', because a carpenter puts things together in a realistic way, so they don't fall down for starters, and based on real principles of physics, etc., plus utilization of what previous builders have worked out, etc. etc. Real world stuff.
But then I realized that the carpenters I know, including the ones who've done work for me, are as crazy in their non-carpentering lives as the (spit, shudder) academic fools I know. So one can never know (it was just one of those 'ideas').
Anyway, you seem to be a carpenter whose head continues to function off the job , and what you've written here should be in the NYT. Failing that, Huff might be a venue. Or Kos...
Loved Paul O'Rourke's comment - "Holden Waldenberger's detailed deconstruction", haha. Runner up: Trig saying, "Where is the large mind of McGarrett50 when we need him?"
This is an excellent summation of the failures of the Bush presidency and should be in the history books. Maybe it should be a book! Rated
"OBAMA wants our guns!" I knew it blogo. Always worried about someone taking your little "gun," aren't you? That's what it always comes down to. So sad.
Birdog
Myriad, you're being way too nice. Regarding common sense, the average person in the street, though usually capable of applying common sense in their own lives, doesn't do that well when applying it to politics. Sure, they do such common sense things politically as voting for the candidate who they think will work for their economic interests and etc., but being on the main very poorly informed, and prone to believe lies and appealing sound bites (as witnessed by all the folk who just lurve Sarah Palin), as often as not they make poor choices. Of course, nowadays most of the candidates we have to choose from are poor choices, so it may be a moot point.
And if I have to eat spam with one more meal I'm going to boot.
Frogtown Diva, thanks for working your way all the way through this sucker:)
Berdina, BLOGo is a nutloaf, not to mention a sickening, foul person.
Thank you also Jan Sand. You're in Finland I see. I guess you weren't watching the news much in 2000, but there was this little detail - it made the headlines here, though apparently not in Europe - of Bush losing the popular vote and stealing the election. For that matter there was a fair amount of electoral skullduggery during the elections in '04, particularly in Ohio and Florida, the two states which W most badly needed to win. Even without the stolen election in 2000 and the problematic one in '04, I most definitely voted against Bush, as did tens of millions of other American voters in both elections.
HOW CAN YOU DRAW CLOSE TO GOD?
One of them was pretty hawt too, but that's always the way of it.
I may be sickening and foul, but I am NOT a nutloaf! Once again, 8 years was not enough time for Bush and Cheney to finish their work; the work of the American people. We as a country need to take over Iran too. These things take a minute and cost a little bit of jingle. We didn't have the jingle and therefore had to borrow from our friends in China. I say SO WHAT? Bush and Dick could have balanced the budget with the oil from Iraq and Iran combined. Hell by now we'd paying 50 cents a gallon for gas instead of wondering when the storm troopers will be at our doors to confiscate our GOD given assault weapons, and how long Obama will let us live before he sends us in front of the death panels.
And BLOGo, butchery seems a small price to pay for our kids getting to soccer practice on time.
Where's that damned bucket list?
BLOGo, are you ever not revolting?
And I just noticed something; I failed to respond to a couple of people up there in the thread who were kind enough to read this post.
First of all, to Lezlie; history should be interesting!
And GINNY ROSE!!!!! I haven't seen you around for ages, I hope things are going well for you my friend.
If there's anybody else I overlooked, my apologies. I usually try to respond to each commenter but sometimes I miss people.
you, and about 1/2 million other 'liberals' send the following email to your local candidates, the dnc, and news papers. repeat on the first of each month.
"i don't vote for the democrat party anymore. i will resume my support when you outline your platform to establish an effective and accessible power of citizen initiative."
are there 1/2 million liberals who don't regard this as too much trouble? dunno, but it isn't much trouble.
would citizen initiative make america a better place? dunno, but there's plenty of room for improvement.
is democracy a good idea? might be. war, torture, abridgement of rights has happened under the alternative. what's so wonderful about a president who can complete a sentence, if the sentence is " i have authorized faceless men to kill those americans they think should be dead?" i paraphrase for brevity and clarity. hard not to improve on that system, don't you think?
here's a little something from the news a few weeks ago, re-iterated by greenwald today. he's not much concerned about accepting conditions on the ground as they are. nor should you be.
"Barack Obama claims the right to assassinate Americans far from any battlefield and with no due process of any kind."
"you, and about 1/2 million other 'liberals' send the following email to your local candidates, the dnc, and news papers. repeat on the first of each month.
"i don't vote for the democrat party anymore. i will resume my support when you outline your platform to establish an effective and accessible power of citizen initiative."
Do you seriously believe, in a nation of 300 million, that a half million emails are going to make the Dems (or anyone else) see the error of their ways? Seriously? I asked for a realistic description of what could take us onto the path to democracy, not a letter-writing campaign. If that's the best you've got, I'll repeat what I said earlier; it's a bunch of pie in the sky silliness.
Some people still want to retain he is an "idiot" which is not quite right. He was too impatient for the job of president, but he was quite job at the job of grand puppet! Everyone knew it even during his years in office. Who doesn't remember the saying "Dick Cheney is running the White House" or "this is the first time a VP has been President in American History"?
And Mr. Sand, your great compassion and dismay are duly noted.
Mr. Sand, in my remark to Progressive Liberal I wasn't discussing the rightness or wrongness of Bush's policies. I was addressing the fact - and fact it is, as anyone who's studied his presidency knows - that later on in his administration he became less willing to listen to Cheney and others who had been allowed to set much of his policy. He became a better manager is what it comes down to, not a better man. Regarding Obama, you're absolutely right; he's done little or nothing to distance himself from Bush's policies, and in some ways - in Eric Holder's recent suggestion that they need to set limits on the legal protections afforded American citizens accused of terrorism for instance - he's proving himself worse than Bush. I must say though, that your assumption that you're the only person in the room who has noticed or is bothered by these things is tiresome at best and at worst is further proof of my earlier statement to you: you "display a smug arrogance and moralizing self-righteousness I usually associate with fundamentalists and others with tiny, closed minds." Your remark that Rob up there speaks for all Americans for instance is illustrative of where you're coming from, and it was then that I first realized I was talking to just another idiot who thinks he has a monopoly on morality and insight.
rated.
Oahu, thanks for the read and the comment. So you're saying we shouldn't let Cali just drop off into the Pacific? And yeah, the decision to invade Iraq, the whole shock and awe bit, kind of showed up our feet of clay didn't it?
By another standard, GWB's presidency has been highly successful. Almost all of his major policies, our wars, limitations of civil liberties, favor for big corporate interests, environmental neglect, disdain for democratic government and accountability, violations of our Constitution, laws and international treaties (also our laws), almost all have been adopted by the presidency of Barack Obama. The differences between the two lie in less significant, cultural areas: abortion, stem-cells, gay rights, but even in this limited domain rhetoric is the major difference.
In terms of the intelligence of the two men, that is difficult to say. Obama clearly has had the more successful record in academe, but taking his perfomance, his choices in advisers and in policies, as a better measure of Obama's intelligence, there is good reason to question the standards of Columbia University, Harvard Law and the U. of Chicago (where Obama taught the Constitution - of all things!)
If GWB's presidency is measured by the degree to which it has been continued by his successor, then GWB's presidency was an outstanding success!
suraj.sun picked up a Guardian (UK) piece on the Texas school board and their quest to remake US education in a pro-American, Christian, free enterprise mode. We've been keeping an eye on this story for some time, as it will have an impact far beyond Texas. From the Guardian: "The board is to vote on a sweeping purge of alleged liberal bias in Texas school textbooks in favor of what Dunbar says really matters: a belief in America as a nation chosen by God as a beacon to the world, and free enterprise as the cornerstone of liberty and democracy. ... Those corrections have prompted a blizzard of accusations of rewriting history and indoctrinating children by promoting rightwing views on religion, economics and guns while diminishing the science of evolution, the civil rights movement and the horrors of slavery. ... Several changes include sidelining Thomas Jefferson, who favored separation of church and state, while introducing a new focus on the 'significant contributions' of pro-slavery Confederate leaders during the civil war. ... Study of Sir Isaac Newton is dropped in favor of examining scientific advances through military technology."
"If GWB's presidency is measured by the degree to which it has been continued by his successor, then GWB's presidency was an outstanding success!"
There's a certain backhanded, implacable logic in that. People thought - certainly, they hoped at least - that they would be getting an end to the Bush era when they voted for Obama. What we've gotten instead is a president who, while better spoken and smoother, has proven that he's not about to give up Bush's programs. This is the consequence of a two party system in which the two parties in question are mirror images of each other.
Mr. Sand, you say "I had sense enough to get away." Not everyone is in a position to get away sir, nor is it necessarily an admirable thing to cut and run. You go on and on about all the ways Americans don't measure up to your impeccable standards, but you still haven't answered my question: As a US citizen, do you give yourself a pass, or are you also a poor workman? If so, do you hold yourself in the same contempt you do your fellow citizens?
The independence of the American worker is now history. Many workers depend now on our success as an empire in projecting military power in order to insure access to resources, such as oil.
Democracy is now a slogan. What counts are jobs and consumerism. No sane person is going to risk his future by being arrested and disqualified for a broad spectrum of jobs.
Finally, Americans know that they are powerless. Their representatives in Washington get their financing from the corporate world, and the voters have a choice between the incumbent of one party or the challenger of the other. But both represent the imperial America.
We see in the presidency of Barack Obama proof of the futility of our democratic pretenses: we voted for change and we received GWB, with a Harvard polish.
I read a book a while back called "Democracy, Inc.", by Sheldon Wolin. Here's an excerpt from a review of it I found online:
Quote:
To reduce a complex argument to its bare bones, since the Depression, the twin forces of managed democracy and Superpower have opened the way for something new under the sun: "inverted totalitarianism," a form every bit as totalistic as the classical version but one based on internalized co-optation, the appearance of freedom, political disengagement rather than mass mobilization, and relying more on "private media" than on public agencies to disseminate propaganda that reinforces the official version of events. It is inverted because it does not require the use of coercion, police power and a messianic ideology as in the Nazi, Fascist and Stalinist versions (although note that the United States has the highest percentage of its citizens in prison -- 751 per 100,000 people -- of any nation on Earth). According to Wolin, inverted totalitarianism has "emerged imperceptibly, unpremeditatedly, and in seeming unbroken continuity with the nation's political traditions."
The genius of our inverted totalitarian system "lies in wielding total power without appearing to, without establishing concentration camps, or enforcing ideological uniformity, or forcibly suppressing dissident elements so long as they remain ineffectual. A demotion in the status and stature of the 'sovereign people' to patient subjects is symptomatic of systemic change, from democracy as a method of 'popularizing' power to democracy as a brand name for a product marketable at home and marketable abroad. The new system, inverted totalitarianism, is one that professes the opposite of what, in fact, it is. The United States has become the showcase of how democracy can be managed without appearing to be suppressed." Unquote.
Pretty much.
There is an interesting article at http://www.counterpunch.org/wilkinson05142010.html that is worthwhile looking into insofar as world problems are concerned.
And Blue, the bumper stickers make me throw up in my mouth a little every time I see one.
Because Obama is not, like Bush, predictably right-wing, the fact that Obama's policies as President have been a continuation of Bush's (no matter the finer rhetoric!) means to me that Obama does not have any allegiance to the ruling-elite; his policy choices have been and are governed by what he believes is self-serving. Obama is an adherent of the corporatocracy, because he seeks to have and hold power - not because he is defending his class. He has no natural membership in the corporate elite. Obama is purely a self-serving demagogue. Of course, if his policies fail, as they seem to be in Af-Pak, for example, the failure will simply be one of poor judgment on Obama's part: he chose the wrong horse.
Innocentvictim, though there are many who'd vehemently disagree with your assessment of Obama as a self-serving demagogue, the more time that goes by the more accurate that assessment seems to be.
And koshersalaami; thanks for the read and the comment!
sorry I missed this before - I don't think it was too long.
I don't think America has surrendered the moral high ground, either.
That sort of under-estimates the perspective the rest of us have, in a way.
It's clear what kind of an economy you have, and the troubles it's caused, but we see also that it's a beautiful country with high ideals upheld by at least half of the people who vote.
I'm for compulsory voting.
Here ( in Oz ) voting isn't just a right - if you're over eighteen, and you don't vote, you're fined.
Might sound harsh, might sound ( ironically ) undemocratic.
But the vote is a responsibility we share.
We pay close attention to America too. Where you go to war, we go.
I'm glad it wasn't N Korea - our ( and your ) relationship with China couldn't have withstood that.
Thanks for this piece, nan.
Several years ago at Christmas, I gave some family members mugs with George H. W. Bush's picture on them. Beneath his face, one statement encapsulated the feelings of all rational people in our society: "I should have pulled out."
With this vaunted military machine, the only two decisive victories I can recall, is blasting heavy metal music at a Papal refuge Manuel Noriega was granted. Noriega, a former CIA agent was about to go public with details of the guns for cocaine project which decimated much of inner city america.
The operation was called "Just Cause," and the just cause was to muzzle Noriega before he spilled the beans.
Several years earlier, reagan, invaded the tiny island nation of Grenada. This operation was dubbed "Urgent Fury," and the urgency was to get the typically inept american intelligence failure to prevent the suicide bomb attack in Lebanon which resulted in 241 american casualties off the front pages of the newspapers.
-R-