Naqib's Daughter

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Born and raised in Egypt, educated at London University, immigrated to the United States in the eighties. Author of two novels, The Cairo House, about growing up in a political family in Nasser's Egypt, and The Naqib's Daughter, about Bonaparte's occupation of Egypt in 1798. A collection of short stories, Love is Like Water, addresses in part Arab Americans post 9/11. Also published nonfiction on Islam, Egypt, women in Muslim societies, and terrorism. Have taught at university and in journalism. An editor of South Writ Large, an online magazine of stories, arts and ideas from the Global and US Souths.

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JULY 26, 2011 2:50PM

Why I'm Glad the Norway Terrorist is Alive

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Anders Breivik

Anders Breivik’s own father wishes he’d committed suicide after his unconscionable massacre of teenage campers, but I am fervently grateful that he did not. If he had killed himself or if he had died in a firefight with police, if all they found was the dead body of the blond blue-eyed gunman along those of his innocent teenage victims, there is a very good chance that suspicions would still have fallen on ‘Islamic terrorism.’ There would have been speculation- and from some sources, outright fabrication- about his links with Al Qaeda cells. He would have been portrayed as a native-born Norwegian recruit to the cause of the Caliphate; his history of anti-immigrant, Islamophobe ranting on the web would have been dismissed as a cover. Never mind that the whole purpose of terrorism is to propagate its cause, which would make it self-defeating not to acknowledge an act after the fact; conspiracy theories would have run rampant anyway.

 At least now, with Anders Breivik alive and able to stand trial, he will speak for himself, and for his true convictions.

 But in spite of that, there are those who must blame Al Qaeda at any cost: if he committed this heinous act, they claim, he must have been inspired by Al Qaeda- rather than, say, Timothy McVeigh, the Unabomber or Colombine.

 Nor, for that matter, do the disseminators of the rampant Islamophobic discourse on the far right in America acknowledge their influence on Breivik, although he himself explicitly quotes them in his ‘manifesto.’ On the contrary, the blame-the-victim mentality is alive and well. If it were not for the lenient immigration policies of Norway, ethnic Norwegians like Breivik who resented immigrants diluting their ethnic, religious and cultural purity, would not have had to resort to such extreme tactics.

 At the same time, there is nary a reference to a ‘Christian terrorist.’ The explicitly religious aspect of the terrorist’s motivation, his quest to save European Christendom from an Islamic invasion, is explained away as being ‘political’ rather than ‘religious.’ In what sense, then, is Al Qaeda ‘religious’ rather than ‘political’?

 Ultimately, though, the ideal pigeonhole in which to classify Anders Breivik, where he will least trouble the Western world’s peace of mind and self-image, would be as a ‘deranged loner,’ an aberration rather than a phenomenon. With the perpetrator of cold-blooded carnage against the most innocent of his fellow Norwegians alive and able to stand trial, the truth, whatever it is, stands a better chance of being heard.  

  

 

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I think you are right to be glad to see who he was, and now it would be nice if he fell out of a window in the deluded state that Renstorp, a Swedish military analyst, described as what he is about.
any rational society would classify him as a 'nut,' and move on to the sport pages.

but there is a segment of modern society that doesn't know why immigration is necessary, can see no reason to admit strange languages and customs into the land, and suspect that they are being disadvantaged by a policy of convenience to the ruling class, but not to 'ordinary' people such as themselves.

they can not participate in public discussion and resolution, because they do not live in a democracy, so the nut cases are armed with a perfect excuse to take violent action. this violent action may seem counterproductive, but it is not. for a few days at least, breivik can feel like his ideas are getting public consideration.

as far as being 'insane' goes, who is crazier: george w bush killed tens of thousands and ruined millions of iraqis, for reasons which turned out to be bare-faced lies. america still has not charged him with any crime, so possibly the answer is that if you are a mass murderer, do it in a nation that shares your insanity.
Good points you make. The fact that he is still alive means that he can also be punished. Then again, I doubt he will understand the punishment since he doesn't think he's done anything wrong.
We have seen his like before. He is a fascist through and through.

Those kids had to die "because it was necessary" and they were "multiculturalists". Others died previously because they were jews, or communists, untermenschen, social democrats, homosexuals,

Muslims are just the latest "other". / R
I agree with you. Im tired of so called extralegal approaches to terrorism. extralegal == illegal. lets use a courtroom for what its for. its the civilized answer to barbarism.
All the 'speculation' you speak of would have been dealt with within hours, maby a couple of days at the most, by the press, that is, if you have any faith in the press. A dead blue-eyed Nordic would have been identified for who/what he was, to wit, a dead Nordic crypto-fascist. It would have been like the OK City bombing.

But, Your entire piece is a facile deflection away from the real problem: Islamic crazies want to kill us--in London Tube stations, in the Twin Towers, anywhere they can strike--because we are not...them. Nice try. Sure, they're are the lone nut cases out there, but there's also AQ, and when/if AQ goes down, others, quite willing to kill us because we are not them, will fill the void. And personally, I hope the void reeks of cordite.
All the 'speculation' you speak of would have been dealt with within hours, maby a couple of days at the most, by the press, that is, if you have any faith in the press. A dead blue-eyed Nordic would have been identified for who/what he was, to wit, a dead Nordic crypto-fascist. It would have been like the OK City bombing.

But, Your entire piece is a facile deflection away from the real problem: Islamic crazies want to kill us--in London Tube stations, in the Twin Towers, anywhere they can strike--because we are not...them. Nice try. Sure, they're are the lone nut cases out there, but there's also AQ, and when/if AQ goes down, others, quite willing to kill us because we are not them will fill the void. Personally, I hope the void, full of Jihadists, reeks of cordite.
I wish he would be sentenced to death.

I think blaming the right (far or not), most of whom will call for his execution (seeing as how they support the Death Penalty and the Left, usually, does not) is like blaming the Beatles for "inspiring" Charlie Manson by releasing "Helter Skelter".

I think this man and Timothy McVeigh and the Unibomber were/are terrorists.

I still think, and there are courageous Muslims who point this out too, that Jihad is a serious threat to the West and to Muslims in the Middle East, and other places, as well. Bali, London, New York, Madrid, Mumbai, and various Jihadist web-sites underscore the seriousness of that threat.

Obviously this man is/was a threat as well. Happily, he does not appear to be part of an overarching trend or group as, unfortunately, members of Al Q. are. I wish Islamists had not hijacked a small, but significant, percentage of Islam, but we can't live on wishes.

I commend the Muslims who supported the filming of "Obsession" and spoke on it.

I hope this man is executed.

BTW, people like Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch primarily print - as a warning - what is already out there in the "Muslim" world. Blaming them for the actions of this murderer, or others, is like blaming me if I hear two guys (let's make them "white") walking near a mall and planning to commit an act of terror there. If I point them out to the police, shouldn't I be a hero and not an "accessory"? I hope so.
Immigration and crazy Christians? Look no further than our Native American population. I bet they have an opinion on that.

We non-native Americans all spring from the immigration well. I guess it just depends which side of the bible you were born on. (I have not forgotten the Torah, or the Koran, but the bible beaters have.)
I don't think that a dead Anders Breitvik would have led anyone to believe that Al Queda was somehow involved after all. What we have instead is another alienated young man getting captured by madness, fascism, and racism. The important thing in this case is to establish the formative links between Breitvik and the racists (Americans included) who helped inspire him.
Jihadist for Jesus, God warrior, Christian terrorist? I'm surprised it got as much press as it did here in America. We wouldn't want to do anything to tarnish the halo on any of these fundamentalist, ya know. But even though this mass murderer is still alive to be tried, I'd sure like to see him burned at the stake. Now that's the old time Christian way.
He was sighted before the bomb exploded, blond and in a police uniform. What they did not know was that he was alone, it could have been coordinated.

But, ad another tag and explain to me why I and others relate his insane "ideology" to the Tea Party? His Internet idol is "Richard the Lionheart" - from the crusader.

Now is "Richard Lionheart" an American, and not someone in the English Defence League? Could it be someone close to Karl Roven (who has visited Norway a number of times and can have met ABB). Or is it Glenn Beck or even Michele Bachmann?

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/07/20117259426336524.html

Many things come from the US, and lately a lot of bad things originates from "the land of the brave" - or the place they rather pay the bank $5 than pay the state $1 to care for those that need it..

Where else can he receive such destructive ideas from, completely detached from reality?
I know it sounds quaint, but aside from one rather generic, as I understand, reference to Norway as "Christian", where is the evidence that this man considered himself a Christian, in anything more than the "cultural Christian" way or was doing this in the name of Christianity?

Are we sure we haven't been duped on this issue?
Nice to see you again ND. It is better that he was taken alive so his background could get unpacked. And while he must have been unbalanced, he did seem to find a few kindred spirits here and there. Whether they would ever act on their paranoia is guesswork.
Barbara writes: " . . . where is the evidence that this man considered himself a Christian, in anything more than the "cultural Christian" way or was doing this in the name of Christianity?"

Yes, exactly. So far I have heard nothing to support the idea that he was a Christian in any meaningful way, or that his crimes were done in the name of or motivated by Christianity. People often use the word "Christian" to denote people and nations that come out of the Western moral and intellectual tradition, as distinguished from those with an oriental or middle eastern tradition.

Even if he is a "Christian" (whatever that label might mean as applied to a mass murderer) he was most likely acting alone, or perhaps in conspiracy with one or two others. Islamic terrorism operates on a far wider scale and often involves large numbers of individuals. Islamic terrorism tends to be highly organized and often capable of launching simultaneous coordinated attacks in different countries, and often with international financial, logistics, training, and other support. For that reason Islamic terrorism presents a threat that is several orders of magnitude greater than what happened in the Norway attacks.
You have made a good point. I would never say a Muslim is a terrorist just because they are Muslim, people act as if all Muslims have evil intent in their heart. Terrorist come from many backgrounds and religions and races of people. The problem is the stereo-type that still exist in peoples minds concerning different cultures and people. I am Native American-Cherokee and my people were put thru hell when the European first came here and some of us are still going thru hell, but I have my faith in God to combat it. I am not the stereo-typical Indian on a reservation where most people in their mind associate an Indian to live. I live the way I want and I don't follow all the customs of my people - with the exception of giving glory to "The Great Spirit" or "God", that is just part of who I am. I personally love all cultures and believe uniqueness is what God intended for us, could you imagine a place where everybody was the same, it would be boring. The bigger problem is the people who use culture and race as a way to discriminate, oppress, and judge. I say let God be the judge. After all that is God's job.
Thank you for finding the words that I was looking for. I think the main feeling in Norway is that we are glad (which might be a wrong word) that he survived. We need to put him in perspective by listening to his own word as we get to know the truth behind his actions.

Next, we are glad that we didn't face the sceinario that this was a muslim person, the aftermath would have been an horrific affair here. We saw some of it in the first hpurs after the bombing in Oslo, that wasn't respectable at all.
But, it certainly isn't easy to come to terms with the massacre of innocent victims and the traumatising of hundreds of people.

Best regards
Gro Vasbotten
Gro, thank you so much for your kind comment. And allow a stranger to offer condolences.
Gro, thank you so much for your kind comment. And allow a stranger to offer condolences.
For Barbara and anyone who doubts that Breivik acted- in his deluded mind- in the name of saving European Christendom, just look up his websites, his manifesto, etc, rampant with Crusader imagery, or read his actual words.
As for the Islamophobia out there, history- recent and European- should be enough to remind us what happens when racist xenophobia is fomented for political ends.