
Anders Breivik’s own father wishes he’d committed suicide after his unconscionable massacre of teenage campers, but I am fervently grateful that he did not. If he had killed himself or if he had died in a firefight with police, if all they found was the dead body of the blond blue-eyed gunman along those of his innocent teenage victims, there is a very good chance that suspicions would still have fallen on ‘Islamic terrorism.’ There would have been speculation- and from some sources, outright fabrication- about his links with Al Qaeda cells. He would have been portrayed as a native-born Norwegian recruit to the cause of the Caliphate; his history of anti-immigrant, Islamophobe ranting on the web would have been dismissed as a cover. Never mind that the whole purpose of terrorism is to propagate its cause, which would make it self-defeating not to acknowledge an act after the fact; conspiracy theories would have run rampant anyway.
At least now, with Anders Breivik alive and able to stand trial, he will speak for himself, and for his true convictions.
But in spite of that, there are those who must blame Al Qaeda at any cost: if he committed this heinous act, they claim, he must have been inspired by Al Qaeda- rather than, say, Timothy McVeigh, the Unabomber or Colombine.
Nor, for that matter, do the disseminators of the rampant Islamophobic discourse on the far right in America acknowledge their influence on Breivik, although he himself explicitly quotes them in his ‘manifesto.’ On the contrary, the blame-the-victim mentality is alive and well. If it were not for the lenient immigration policies of Norway, ethnic Norwegians like Breivik who resented immigrants diluting their ethnic, religious and cultural purity, would not have had to resort to such extreme tactics.
At the same time, there is nary a reference to a ‘Christian terrorist.’ The explicitly religious aspect of the terrorist’s motivation, his quest to save European Christendom from an Islamic invasion, is explained away as being ‘political’ rather than ‘religious.’ In what sense, then, is Al Qaeda ‘religious’ rather than ‘political’?
Ultimately, though, the ideal pigeonhole in which to classify Anders Breivik, where he will least trouble the Western world’s peace of mind and self-image, would be as a ‘deranged loner,’ an aberration rather than a phenomenon. With the perpetrator of cold-blooded carnage against the most innocent of his fellow Norwegians alive and able to stand trial, the truth, whatever it is, stands a better chance of being heard.


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but there is a segment of modern society that doesn't know why immigration is necessary, can see no reason to admit strange languages and customs into the land, and suspect that they are being disadvantaged by a policy of convenience to the ruling class, but not to 'ordinary' people such as themselves.
they can not participate in public discussion and resolution, because they do not live in a democracy, so the nut cases are armed with a perfect excuse to take violent action. this violent action may seem counterproductive, but it is not. for a few days at least, breivik can feel like his ideas are getting public consideration.
as far as being 'insane' goes, who is crazier: george w bush killed tens of thousands and ruined millions of iraqis, for reasons which turned out to be bare-faced lies. america still has not charged him with any crime, so possibly the answer is that if you are a mass murderer, do it in a nation that shares your insanity.
Those kids had to die "because it was necessary" and they were "multiculturalists". Others died previously because they were jews, or communists, untermenschen, social democrats, homosexuals,
Muslims are just the latest "other". / R
But, Your entire piece is a facile deflection away from the real problem: Islamic crazies want to kill us--in London Tube stations, in the Twin Towers, anywhere they can strike--because we are not...them. Nice try. Sure, they're are the lone nut cases out there, but there's also AQ, and when/if AQ goes down, others, quite willing to kill us because we are not them, will fill the void. And personally, I hope the void reeks of cordite.
But, Your entire piece is a facile deflection away from the real problem: Islamic crazies want to kill us--in London Tube stations, in the Twin Towers, anywhere they can strike--because we are not...them. Nice try. Sure, they're are the lone nut cases out there, but there's also AQ, and when/if AQ goes down, others, quite willing to kill us because we are not them will fill the void. Personally, I hope the void, full of Jihadists, reeks of cordite.
I think blaming the right (far or not), most of whom will call for his execution (seeing as how they support the Death Penalty and the Left, usually, does not) is like blaming the Beatles for "inspiring" Charlie Manson by releasing "Helter Skelter".
I think this man and Timothy McVeigh and the Unibomber were/are terrorists.
I still think, and there are courageous Muslims who point this out too, that Jihad is a serious threat to the West and to Muslims in the Middle East, and other places, as well. Bali, London, New York, Madrid, Mumbai, and various Jihadist web-sites underscore the seriousness of that threat.
Obviously this man is/was a threat as well. Happily, he does not appear to be part of an overarching trend or group as, unfortunately, members of Al Q. are. I wish Islamists had not hijacked a small, but significant, percentage of Islam, but we can't live on wishes.
I commend the Muslims who supported the filming of "Obsession" and spoke on it.
I hope this man is executed.
BTW, people like Daniel Pipes and Robert Spencer of Jihad Watch primarily print - as a warning - what is already out there in the "Muslim" world. Blaming them for the actions of this murderer, or others, is like blaming me if I hear two guys (let's make them "white") walking near a mall and planning to commit an act of terror there. If I point them out to the police, shouldn't I be a hero and not an "accessory"? I hope so.
We non-native Americans all spring from the immigration well. I guess it just depends which side of the bible you were born on. (I have not forgotten the Torah, or the Koran, but the bible beaters have.)
But, ad another tag and explain to me why I and others relate his insane "ideology" to the Tea Party? His Internet idol is "Richard the Lionheart" - from the crusader.
Now is "Richard Lionheart" an American, and not someone in the English Defence League? Could it be someone close to Karl Roven (who has visited Norway a number of times and can have met ABB). Or is it Glenn Beck or even Michele Bachmann?
http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/07/20117259426336524.html
Many things come from the US, and lately a lot of bad things originates from "the land of the brave" - or the place they rather pay the bank $5 than pay the state $1 to care for those that need it..
Where else can he receive such destructive ideas from, completely detached from reality?
Are we sure we haven't been duped on this issue?
Yes, exactly. So far I have heard nothing to support the idea that he was a Christian in any meaningful way, or that his crimes were done in the name of or motivated by Christianity. People often use the word "Christian" to denote people and nations that come out of the Western moral and intellectual tradition, as distinguished from those with an oriental or middle eastern tradition.
Even if he is a "Christian" (whatever that label might mean as applied to a mass murderer) he was most likely acting alone, or perhaps in conspiracy with one or two others. Islamic terrorism operates on a far wider scale and often involves large numbers of individuals. Islamic terrorism tends to be highly organized and often capable of launching simultaneous coordinated attacks in different countries, and often with international financial, logistics, training, and other support. For that reason Islamic terrorism presents a threat that is several orders of magnitude greater than what happened in the Norway attacks.
Next, we are glad that we didn't face the sceinario that this was a muslim person, the aftermath would have been an horrific affair here. We saw some of it in the first hpurs after the bombing in Oslo, that wasn't respectable at all.
But, it certainly isn't easy to come to terms with the massacre of innocent victims and the traumatising of hundreds of people.
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Gro Vasbotten