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SEPTEMBER 16, 2009 2:53PM

Surviving a DIY: The SINK PROJECT *wet hot sexy fun

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I lied.  Installing sinks is not hot sexy fun. But it is wet.

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doesn't look half bad does it?  all that light stuff around the sink is laminate where tiles need to be. 

Let me try to make you understand that this may have been the most difficult home improvement project we've tackled, to date.  The Hubbin’s confidence in his ability to get to it was the culmination of years of smaller jobs that have been forced upon his more geekish brainiac person due to our limited budget in combination with “this old house” falling down around our heads. 

My husband is the muscle as well as the electrician, the plumber, the handsome sweaty yard guy.   And I give him props because the man has taught himself major home repair skills and he's unstoppable when he puts his mind to it.  

He’s put up everything that needs putting up (and in a big house that’s a lot of nailing, screwing, sawing, leveling and taking down as well).  He’s done all the complicated electronic setups, built structures from boxes with eerie weird and incomprehensible instructions that would have been funny if they weren't so necessary.  He's put in a kitchen counter, various cabinets, a bathroom sink and assorted faucets and only once needed the plumber to make a complicated final hookup for a weird configuration.   I do a lot of the work too, but he's the heavy lifter. 

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close up of what didn't look so bad.  what was underneath was worse. 

 

Three or so months ago it became obvious the kitchen sink and faucet required a change and while discussing this, the Hubbins stepped up to the plate, feeling he could handle the job.   

I was a little concerned.  First this was heavy labor and a job that needed to be done quickly.  We couldn’t live without water for any length of time.  And removing sinks, pipes, unscrewing old connections without destroying threads or cracking old pipes, tightening and making watertight connections is seriously hard work.  

But the most important reason to be worried was that in truth, my Hubbins HATES doing this stuff.  Just because he has to, doesn’t mean he likes it.   And he gets vocal.  VERY vocal as the job progresses.  I cringe as I feel both our bloodpressures make our heads inflate like ugly red balloons.  The dogs run and hide.  The neighbors do…well, whatever……their job is listening to the bloodletting.  

But nomatter the grief, this was a job that needed doing in a big way.  There was a leak somewhere.   Tiles had come loose, the faucet wasn’t sitting properly, we thought the wood - under the laminate - under the tile might be softening.   

 

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original kitchen, before we moved in

 

When we first bought this house almost eight years ago, the kitchen came with acidic yellow marbled laminate around the sink, stovetop and all backsplashes.  I decided the answer to this visual horror awaiting me first thing every morning was to create a mosaic mural on the backsplashes and tile the countertops right up to the sink and stovetop. (If you want to see my mosaic work, scroll down the page.)   My patch job would hold the fort until we could afford to hire the cavalry (Home Depot). In the meantime, none of the existing cabinetry, plumbing or appliances would have to be torn out and re-bought, re-installed, re-plumbered and re-electicianed.  It would buy us time, I'd do some creative handiwork and it would look great.  And it did.

It held for four years.  Then last summer I had to retile around the sink and on the counter edge because after the old dishwasher died, clouds of steam from the new one kept lifting off the edge tiles.  Then it seemed to me the sink area was getting that look that suggested behind the scenes leaky foulness, decrepitness and rot was taking place.  

I happened to have had, as a matter of fact, a new faucet because  - get this! - Moen will give you a new faucet if you buy one and it craps out on you at any time. It’s guaranteed for LIFE!!  Oh yes. 

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look closely. there is a lesson to be learned here.  a faucet stem and base will not easily be put in their precise positions until the moment they choose to.  and not one minute sooner!

 

I explained to my husband (who had installed our first kitchen faucet and had hated doing the first time) we might as well get a new sink and start fresh especially because I needed to retile under it.   Old mosaic next to the sink were popping up every day, the entire area was coming loose and needed retiling and since we had to do something anyway, it might even be easier to put in a new sink than trying to take out, retile and put back in an ugly old sink!!  

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working mojo 

Still talking fast, I shpeiled we’d get something that would add to the value of the house and look spectacular and update it.  The newer ones are bigger inside, hold more dishes, blah blah. My brain and mouth were going a mile a minute at that point.   All my perfect rationale and reason did not get through his resistance to the idea.  Add to this I wanted to hire a plumber to do at least some of it.    

But he is a practical man and on his own the Hubbins considered the foul ugliness of cleaning and scraping away at the sodden gunky slimy hardened glop on and under our old sink and the hourly cost of said professional.  Add to this he had so many nice tools and DIY books and a healthy womanperson to assist, so a nice sink might be the ticket.  He was up to the job of installation, he felt.  

And since he was being “asked” by his company to take additional furlough days from his job thanks to the nation’s booming economy, we’d have four days to do it!

So I dug into my little household account and he into his Christmas fund and we bought a sink. 

And then came the fun of throwing shit at the fan!  wheeeeeeeee! 

The plan:  first the far portion of the kitchen counter would get tiled, glued and grouted and sealed.  That’s two days of work.  I could start that before he started his furlough. The timing HAD to fit.  

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important fact:  eating a breakfast heavy on proteins and fats will have your man (or woman) feeling fit and ready to tackle any catastrophy!  

Next step: the water would be shut off, the old sink is taken out, new tiles are glued in, grouted, next day the new sink dropped in place, beautiful new faucet next, water back on.   Voila! 

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Day One: the family water supply for the weekend of August 29 to  Sept 1

 

Sounds so simple.  Not so much.  Complications.  Discoveries.   Shit happens.  A LOT of shit happens.  With water and plumbing, shit ALWAYS happens.  If it leaks, the water must travel.  We have a basement.  Need I say more?

Let me list some of the glitches and complexities we encountered:

From my end at first a simple problem: the gluegun fritzed out.  Not so bad, right?  Still, there were three boxes of quarry tile and a short amount of time to tile a counter and I didn’t want to waste an hour or so running over to busy Home Depot for a replacement.  

Solution: I had what I thought was an impressive glue made by Elmers which claimed to be superstrong - NANO glue.  I hadn’t used it but trusting Elmer - who is a male cow - I forged ahead without testing.  Bad move.  

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should be called NONO glue!
 
 This was not normal glue but GORILLA GLUE disguised as MALE COW GLUE!  As it dried, it swelled, it oozed, it swelled and oozed.  TO BIG PROPORTIONS - four or five times in size. It grew out of the tiles like rock hard malignancies.   
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evil bumps that came in the night 

 

By the next morning, there were concrete-like lumps between and on nearly every tile on the counter.  No, they did not scrape or flake off.  

 

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a living infomercial for ROTOZIP the Dremel! (highly recommended but now making tortured squeeky noises when it stops)

 

 I have a dremel.  It took a half day, some sweat and a shitload of dremeling, scraping, sanding, poking and cutting but I got that crap gone.  Second half of the day I grouted.  Late that night I sealed the tile and grout.  Twice. Okay...first job finished.  Looks good.  Downside: somewhere along the way my hands lost a few layers of skin.  

BONUS: Those tiles are PERMANENT!  The counter will ALWAYS be tiled.  Trust me. It is sealed in place with concrete glue and skin cells! Unto eternity.  

Next on the block:  my man removes the sink and old faucet.  His woman cuts to size and puts in tiles and grouts.  She will have, by then bought a new gluegun.  There is no time for mastic glue.  This is a job for fast.  For hot superglue.  The next morning the man will put in the sink and the faucet.    So simple.  Too simple. 

He has already noticed and nearly come to blows with the cabinet façade, the front of the sink cabinet is a snug fit for his large 6’4” frame.  So it must be removed for him to go in to get the job done.

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the Hubbins before he wanted to kill the cabinet 

Except it’s been stapled - in a million places, a gazillion pieces.  Some of it is fitted by joints and some of it, not so much fitted as forced with hard little rusty staples, some in, some stretched, some big, some small.  A variety!   

 

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if this were a National Geographic special a quiet voice would narrate: "many staples of differing varietys reside here, side by side in peace, unseen to the naked eye." 

 

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a calm moment but I can tell you he's not happy that I'm being Jiminy Olsen, Cub Bloggergirl 

 

See…this is the stuff they don’t tell you in DIY books or TV:

so I will be your friend here and tell you the real truth: 

When a house is built, those bastards DO ANYTHING to FINISH a HOUSE!  They do whatever the hell they can and put whatever wherever and the hell with you down the line, whoever you are!  

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It’s worse if the job is done by homeowners.  Like us.  I think to myself about those permanent tiles on the other counter, that some day an innocent young bride is going to bat her eyes at her new spousie poo telling her darling that she’d like to change the tile over there to something prettier.  Yes indeed.  Life (and homeownership) will continue it's cruel games for generations to come.

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Some of the other scientifically sound discoveries we made during this mutual exposition of the mind, body, marriage and blood was the fact that it is altogether possible an entire house can be held together by staples and duct tape and skin cells, and that there are pressure clips that can or not (depending on the owner at the time) be holding in place a kitchen sink.  Imagine that! 

We learned hard truths: that silicon will often (two times in our case) come oozing out of the back of a container, ruining a gun and getting on everything including raw, burned hands.   I learned the hard way that hot glue is an excellent structural bond for replacing facades of sink cabinetry.  And it can effectively remove many layers of already raw skin from hands and fingers at the blink of an eye.  And in combination with silicon, will create what might be termed "living gloves".  

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We learned again that water runs down, fast, very fast, that plumbing fixtures often do not fit into one another and that there is nothing about pipes that is standard.  We also relearned that a man, lying on his back in a closed cramped space with relentless water dripping downon his grizzled puss should not have had two big cups of coffee a few minutes before starting that leg of the job.  

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o joy and halleluja!  it is done! it is done! 

We again learned there comes a point when the stress and pressure and hard work of something like this can rip the scabs off the normal little pressure wounds of marriage with such a force it can leave you both stunned with the fury of it.  And that scabs heal and marriages do, too especially when all is said and done you can look at something special that you have created together and all of the pain of it's creating making it even more yours. 

(really, it's the bank’s ...but this is the poetic summing up of a feel good moment, so we won’t go into that.)

 

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 la famiglia is what it's all about.

 

the end.  

or is it?  coming soon:  popcorn ceilings that crack.  lions and tigers and bears, oh my!  

 

BTW, these are the mosaic tile backsplashes I did in 2003.  they've held and hopefully they'll hold until we're gone.  

 

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this is the story of a marriage visiting hell by way of a sink.
What a great story and what a great job. It's funny. I'm not laughing at you, I'm laughing with you. Before God, in is infinite wisdom, decided to make my body a piece of minced meat, I owned a home improvement business. Believe, I have encountered every problem under the sun, and have used cussed words that would make a sailor blush. But still, you and you Hubby did a magnificent job. Congratulations~!~(Gorilla glue, hah)
How is Your Marriage Going: Do a DIY Project and Find Out! You must have a great relationship to have survived this. Bravo! When I did the pave tile in our kitchen years ago, people thought we were crazy to take something like that on. Beck's mother said, "Oh, your Dad slept on the couch for two nights when we redid the bathroom." Well, the tile went down, in my crazily meticulous way, and we were still in love. Phew! xox
All I could think the whole time I was reading it is how much it sucks to do ANY plumbing what so ever!!!
This looks like hell of a job. But those mosaics??? I am in love with them Monkey. love them!!
The mosaics are absolutely awesome - totally love them! As for the stress of such projects - wow - yeah - way to go!!!
Two years ago we got a new sink and it didn't quite fit the cabinet, so Dan had to rebuild it to fit the sink, move the cabinets that held the dishwasher and another small one about one or two inches to the left, secure them, and refinish them because the rebuilding required some new wood. He had to hurry like crazy because we got new Silestone countertops and the guys were driving 90 miles to come and measure for it. Eeeeck!

But isn't it GREAT to have such a nice big sink now! Hoorah! For your husband and his relentless good work! Sayonara to that shallow sink too! Isn't it great to be able to sink a large pot or dish into a deeper sink.

Making everyday activities easier and more convenient is one of the best home improvements that can be done.

Dremels are unsung heroes of the kind of finishing details that elevate projects from mundane to excellent work. Too bad yours is now making that odd little noise. Maybe it just needs a vacay. Chuckle.

The tile mosaics are fabulous. Really, really fabulous. What a team you two are!
Scanner, coming from you a contracter, I am humbled. I don't know how you guys do this for a living...this stuff is murder! hehe...so ya think Gorilla Glue was a bit much, huh. ya. itwas, itwas.

thank you Stetson man. your cartoon rocks too. I'll be over there in a minute to have my say. Had to go shopping for weekend guests coming.

Robin: YES YES!! we barely made it. not because we have a particularly bad relationship but this stuff is the devil's work. I got so snarly myself, I am STILL ashamed. ::sigh:: thank heaven for makeup sex!
Mission: the plumbing, all of it is such awful dirty work. I felt so sorry for him (at first) (then it got to be every man and woman for themselves because we were both in agony and both pissed as hell!). Thank you for the compliment about the tile work. I did a lot of it in California and some here. This is actually the last of it. Kills the hands. Gave me arthritis and some carpal strain too. I'm no kid. But I stopped and I don't think any lasting harm was done other than what usually occurs in the course of living our lives.


Owl: thank you so much. And thank you for adding me to your favorites. I am honored.

Susanne, it's funny. I had forgotten about the Dremel but I needed to use it upstairs for some stuff I'll be doing over the winter so I had taken it out. The night I glued, I saw the expanding glue coming up between the tiles, and I thought, hey! I can use the Dremel to crack at that stuff because it was obvious even before it had completely expanded that this was bigger than any screwdriver, palette knives or dentist's steel picks.

You're lucky someone in the household is handy. And we know that feeling of EEK and how!. We were eeking all weekend. In fact, by Monday we were thinking we'd have to call the plumber on Tuesday because Tony just didn't think he was going to get the two sinks connected right. it's so damn tense, this work.
I meant to comment that the quarry tile really looks tremendous with the complexities of the mosaic.

Right now Dan is running a heavier electric circuit to the kitchen because we just picked out a new stove, dual fuel, which means the electricity there is not sufficient for the main oven. So there have been ladders and tools all over the place, all kinds of crap that gets left out when he needs to stop and sit for a while, and then the stuff just sits until I complain, which is a bit scary because the stove is coming tomorrow or the next day.
My husband is going to kill you... now I'm getting the itch to redo the backsplash in our kitchen... and it's a rental...
Hubbin? Isn't that a character from Lord of the Rings.

R
Suzanne, o oH! I didn't realize you were in the midst of this madness...I hope you have electricity. I know if it were us, something would have blown. Sounds like your guy knows what he's doing. We have books that lie to us about how easy it all is. I am jealousing like crazy over here assuming it's gas and convection. I covet those stoves. I covet all serious cooking equipment. If you put one in here, though we'd have to move the livingroom up to the bedroom. there's no room. it's all very tidy and 40's cozy.

Surly, it's easy. if you're not doing plumbing, putting up a backsplash is a piece of cake. Unless you're tearing something down. then, well...you have no idea what's under it so it's like a big hahaha on you lottery. sometimes good, flat and no problems. But usually surprises abound in houses! It could keep you busy all winter! My advice, get a good glue gun and practice with it. And wear thin leather work gloves. All the time.
ROFL! John B! unless hobbits come in six foot four version, no. (although he does have hair on his toes) (but I didn't tell you that)
Our house has been in stages of being remodeled for 4 1/2 years, but we weren't planning on replacing our stove, we just had to do it because the oven went out on a Kitchenaid and we didn't like the burners on top enough to warrant repair of the wonderful, but broken oven. We did a lot of research this time. I don't like replacing appliances more often than ten years, it seems irresponsible.

Our house is pretty nice, but it was homemade and that means that there were many of those things that you have noticed in repairing your house. Dan is a retired architect. He knows the building code. He knows more that quite a lot about buildings but not necessarily everything he needs to know about the specific trades involved, but he can get up to snuff without costing us a lot of money that we don't have. It just takes time when you have one guy doing the lion's share of the work.

Our garage has about 750 square feet of Saltillo tile in it for installation in our entry hall, the master bedroom, the dining room & living room. He did the downstairs after we had a flood that ruined the carpet down there. But that meant he had to do all new baseboards, new doors, window trim and build in bookcases to replace the furniture that was destroyed. That project through off the things that we meant to do by two years.

The house usually doesn't look like a construction zone, unless it does. The upside is that our house is GORGEOUS in all the places where he has worked, much like your counters, and back splash. Many lessons have been learned, knuckles cracked, fingers banged and cut into, but the man does great work.

You can see his bookcases at: http://open.salon.com/blog/susanne_freeborn/2008/10/12/library_book_shelves_rise_from_the_flood.
You two make a great team, but I guess you already knew that.

R
Beautiful mosaic work, beautiful marriage works!
rated for resourcefulness.
wow, those mosaics are stunning !!!! so gorgeous. and such hard hard work. thank you for this!!!! love love love and gratitude
"Yes indeed. Life (and homeownership) will continue it's cruel games for generations to come."

~tears~ That's beautiful! :) A few summers ago, I helped my Pop and mom put in a new counter and sink. With me, my oldest brother, pop(by the way, I discovered where I get my temper from!! Whoooo!! ;)) we managed to fit in the sink after cutting and cussing, and the counter all in one(hundred) movements!! :)

Also, the wifey and I have done the plumbing thing in the bathroom, our marriage was tested that day!! :D
Wow, the tile work is fantastic!! And nice work on the sink.

DIY is mandatory for me; couldn't afford to live in my house otherwise. Again, great job.
You SO owe your husband. That's all I'm saying. I'm in remodeling hell right now and no one has even started working yet. FABULOUS mosaics!
Susanne, your Dan is an excellent craftsman! The bookcases are wonderful. Your Dan knows code. We know bupkis. Bupkis isn't nirvana when it comes to home improvements.

We used to talk about surrounding the fireplace with built-ins but after this fiasco, we're finished with it I think. Plus I promised my husband no more projects by choice. only emergency. I'm going to try to stick with it...but sometimes it's hard to make that determination.

not for him though...his idea of an emergency is if the ceiling is falling. Me? i'm looking at the crack in the popcorn ceiling and thinking it needs to be addressed..I've already patched. So I know what comes next. :(

Anyway, thank you for sharing this. Lovely lovely lovely. :)
LittleWillie within an half day of starting any project, the individuals on our two person team usually want to strange the other, but first they have to clear away the mess in order to have room for a body. and by the time it's clear we're both too pooped.

Teddy, you are so sweet to say that...yes, hard work, very...very hard on the hands......thank you so much for taking the time to look.

Tink: thats the thing..you do your best but in a way, all you're doing is setting up a series of boobie traps for the next poor fool when you do amateur home improvements.

we also did a counter a few years back. And I figure that nice newlywed couple I wrote about, after trying to jackhammer those tiles off will find - when they decide they'll have to remove the moulding to take the counter out - they'll see how we got that sucker IN a couple of years ago. oh brother....THAT was a story.
Smithery: thank you. yes...we're like a big club out here in America, working our butts to the bone, trying to keep that roof from flying away.

Cartouche: Oh yes, he's been thoroughly paid in full. ;)
agreed...these jobs are hell...your home becomes an alien landscape of tables in the wrong place with dust piled on, nails on sinks and tools and toolbags everywhere.

and when it's over enjoy that week or month when you think there's nothing else to do because that's about how long it takes before the next job starts worming into your brain.
Wow. The mosaic work is amazing. I admire people who can do home repairs. My Dad was great at it. I'm not. It's a skill I regret not having.
Congratulations! that tile work is killer. I love it. RAted.
Steve, my husband never had any experience doing home repairs until we bought the house. he doesn't feel he's very good at it, but I think he is and I do believe he could probably do anything (or maybe its because I'd like to break through the wall to the diningroom). he learns as he goes. what he learned this time is he REALLY hates doing it. (so no pass through to the diningroom)

thank you for the compliment about my mosaics. I did a bunch in CA when we lived there and this kitchen was a carryover. in CA it seems as if most everyone does mosaic (or makes wine). I didn' t trust me to take up winemaking. my issues dancing card is filled up.

Zuma: THANK YOU for your compliment about my mosiacs and stopping by to see our kitchen. I really appreciate it. :)
I use to love home improvement projects.
Before the blogosphere I'd fiddle with joy.
The home I live in is built from good scrap.
I built the 36 X 24 shack in 1978. with pride.
I built a 18 X 24 Guest House for special folk.
I live alone. Old Mom of 3- children is cranky?
She moved in the nicer Guest Cottage. My my!
What in tarnation? I may become a mortician?
I'll let my children learn to hammer and fix tile!
If She comes to visit? I twiddle my dumb thumb!
If I was any more sane I'd suck a goat's milk teat?
Why did this coded-rant become so dang weird?
Folk who were once perfectionist become hobo!
?
I once so loved creative wood furniture building,
stone walls, interior constructions,
wood shop, greenhouse, outhouse,
and now I'm blogging like a wastrel!
I realized trouble was coming today!
I mean the day I said:`I do. enmities!
Now I'll allow my children to hammer!
They need to learn to survive, or else?
I remember trying? Oh irreconcilable?
It's fun to fix and repair, but .. (?) My?

sex?

Your creative art projects are beautiful.
When I see creative pursuit - it inspires.
Almost missed this! How beautiful - both the story and the sink! Thanks monkey for sharing...you were up to your elbows that weekend. (Rated).
gorgeous! and finished!!
I replaced some cracked tiles in the bathroom and have yet to grout them. I think it's been almost 7 years now....only half of the kitchen is painted, too.
Julie you are so sweet.

thank you!
I'm exhausted just reading about it (well, very, very amused as well--many good lines in this; did you skin grow back???). And also very, very impressed. The mosaics are gorgeous, and the handiwork in getting it all done most praiseworthy. Hail the Monkey and the Hubbins!!!!