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Norman Kelley is an independent journalist, author, and former segment radio producer at WBAI 99.5 FM Pacifica Radio. He has written for Society, L A Weekly, The Brooklyn Rail, The Village Voice, The Nation, New York Press, Newsday, Word.com, The Black Star News, New Politics, Black Renaissance/Noir, and The Bedford Stuyvesant Current. He is also the author of the "noir soul"/ mystery series that features "Nina Halligan" in Black Heat (Amistad), The Big Mango (Akashic Books), and A Phat Death (2003). Norman Kelley was also a contributing writer to Brooklyn Noir (Akashic Books, 2004) and DC Noir (Akashic Books, 2006) and Gig: Americans Talk About Their Jobs at the Turn of the Millennium (Random House 2000). He edited and contributed to R&B (Rhythm and Business): The Political Economy of Black Music (Akashic Books, 2005; 2002).

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APRIL 21, 2009 2:08PM

Think We Have a Torture Problem? The Iraqi Gay Technique

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Obviously, torture is a worldwide phenomenon because human cruelty is a specie specific tactic of humanity. However, as Americans, the exceptional people, we're supposedly against such tactics, Well, we once had slavery and placed into concentration camps American citizens of Japanese decent without any legal process. So, anything can happen.

Not to be out done, Iraqi militia men have developed a technique in which they glue—that's right, GLUE!—the anuses of gay men. According to ThinkProgress:

"A prominent Iraqi human rights activist says that Iraqi militia have deployed a painful form of torture against homosexuals by closing their anuses using 'Iranian gum.' ...Yina Mohammad told Alarabiya.net that, 'Iraqi militias have deployed an unprecedented form of torture against homosexuals by using a very strong glue that will close their anus.' According to her, the new substance 'is known as the American hum, which is an Iranian-manufactured glue that if applied to the skin, sticks to it and can only be removed by surgery. After they glue the anuses of homosexuals, they give them a drink that causes diarrhea. Since the anus is closed, the diarrhea causes death. Videos of this form of torture are being distributed on mobile cellphones in Iraq.'"

Not to engage in a PETA-centric mentality, but maybe the Earth would be a better place if the most dangerous creature on the planet, the one with the advanced brain, was removed.

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It is absolutely amazing the extents to which human beings can go in their inhumanity...
Iraq? Isn't that the country we just spent two trillion dollars liberating? monkey fingered.
And so many can't wait to throw poo at Miss. CA. Thanks for perspective.
I can't even thing of anything to say. Horrific.
I'm always amazed at the ingenuity involved in thinking up new ways to torture people.
If we put half as much energy into solving the world's problems I can't even imagine the advancements of the human race.

Absolutely terrible.
This is comes as no surprise from a society that punishes female victims of sexual assault for bringing shame to their families. I recall Iranian President Mahmud Ahmadinejad telling a group of Fordham University students there were no homosexuals in his country. Obviously, coming out has proven to be hazardous to one's health.
"Well, we once had slavery and placed into concentration camps American citizens of Japanese decent without any legal process. So, anything can happen."

Yeah, well most societies in the world have practiced some form of slavery at some time, and whatever wrong was done by forcing citizens of Japanese ancestry into internment camps, they fared far better than the Americans and Europeans detained by the Japanese. I don't think there's much comparison there.

But now that we have the obligatory moral equivalence out of the way, I would note that you wouldn't even have had to mention the religion. Based on the monstrosity of the act we would automatically know that the practitioners of the "religion of peace" were involved.

I remember a few years ago there was some kind of Islamic conference held in the U.S. at which a fatwa was issued declaring that it was wrong to kill innocent people. I don't know about the rest of you, but I kind of had that figured out already, and without the benefit of a fatwa. But our Islamic friends are perhaps a little slow on the uptake, and they need these little reminders from time to time, but I guess the memo never got to Iraq.
We use the anus glue technique here in the U.S., except that it does not produce death, it produces politicians.
Wow, I am so glad that we took the time, money and lives to help these people, if you can call them that. Were are the Iraqis standing up to this stuff and saying no more. Oh that right, they aren’t and won’t.
Dea-dog, your comment (with which I agree) reminds me of the following story. At the Communist Party conference where Nikita Kruschev condemned Stalin and the purges and the "cult of personality", he ranted for some time, then when he paused for breath someone in the room called out "And where were you, Comrade Kruschev, when all this was going on?" Kruschev went even redder in the face, banged on the lectern, and demanded to know who said that. "Come on, stand up, say it to my face! Now who was it?" No-one stirred. He stared about the room, looking everyone in the eye who wasn't staring at the floor. Five, ten, twenty minutes passed - still no-one stood up. Finally Kruschev said "That, comrades, is what I was doing while all that was going on".

Perhaps the herd mentality from the Saddam era is still in effect?
Spin Doctor- That was at Columbia University last year. I was on campus for that event, they put up giant screens for the students to watch what was going on inside. That comment was "I do not know what you are talking about. In my country we do not have any homosexuals", and it elicited alternating looks of horror and laughter at it's sheer absurdity. It was in response to a student question regarding the country's practices of torturing homosexuals.
christ. Some days I agree with your last statement and think we really aren't worth the resources we consume.
One wants to believe this can't possibly be true. I wonder which verse in the Koran prescribes this.
Disgusting. Rated because things like this need to be out in the open.
I cannot comprehend such horrible actions against another. This is pure evil.

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Oh gosh. That's horrid and makes me ill.

I'm with Mungular; imagine all the good we could do if we put that kind of creativity into creating positives for our world.
I bet most people who are against gay marriage (a storm is coming!) would shake their heads at this story and say that this is just terrible, they don't have anything against gays *personally*, they just don't want them to have the same rights as everyone else.
Humans make me sick. To think we use the word human to mean a sort of kindness or civility. We are the most dangerous and the most deranged. This is why less and less there are less and less people I can stand.
Americans tortured Native Americans too...but they still won't admit that either.
My original reading of your post left me speechless. Thirty minutes later, I am still shaking. You ask in your title if readers think that "we" have a torture problem. It seems to me that as long as we are giving aid to Iraq in the name of promoting democracy, such barbaric acts as those you’ve described ARE our problem.

Earlier, fingerlakeswanderer posted on the continuing lack of support for women's rights in Afghanistan. (http://open.salon.com/blog/fingerlakeswanderer/2009/04/21/tell_me_when_will_women_matter) Now this. The Obama administration, which has taken such a strong and courageous stance on issues of morality related to torture, has yet to take a stand on either women’s rights in Afghanistan or LGBT rights in Iraq. I can only assume that they would in part attribute this circumspection to respect cultural differences and principles related to self-determination.

Where is the self-determination for a man who has his anus glued shut and then is made to die of diarrhea? Where is the respect for a woman’s full humanity when she has no legal recourse to being raped by her husband, or when she must brave the prospect of having acid thrown in her face just to obtain an education After I finish shaking enough to gather my thoughts a little better, I will make a donation to Iraqi LGBT or to the The International Gay and Lesbian Human Rights Commission. Then I will write yet another letter to the President and my congressional representatives. Then I think that I’ll ignore the news for a while. Thank you for your post.
This is beyond atrocious. The cruelty which human beings are capable of inflicting on each other shouldn't surprise me, but it does.

Thanks for posting on this.
I share the complete revulsion to this form of torture and all others.

I beg to differ with Mishima regarding what happened to Canadian and American CITIZENS of Japanese descent. In many cases, they were targeted because of their valuable properties and businesses. That was certainly the case here on the West Coast. It's interesting that many of the officials and neighbours of the Japanese profited directly from their internment. No lands/money/valuables were ever returned. Remember, these people had committed no crimes, and were not in active military service as those in the terrible POW camps were.

The fact is, many Japanese tried to sign up for service, and were imprisoned instead.
I'm in such a state of horrified shock that I really don't have anything to add. Just... thank you for posting this.
We've got it real real easy here...let's keep that easy groove to the finish line. Thank you. I don't cover politics very much, more culture.
already got an email! politics=bloodsport to me. i don't cover the bloodsports much.
Well, it's a good thing that our men and women liberated the Iraqi people from the tyranny and cruelty of the Hussein family...only to repeat the same atrocities on their neighbors.

History has a habit of repeating itself, no matter the good intentions some might have.
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
What a bunch of stuck-up assholes!

(Sorry, just couldn't resist :)

That is beyond the pale. You say the glue is Iranian? Too bad they couldn't do that to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Talk about raging assholes with diarrhea...

Man, that's right up there with shoving red hot pokers in sensitive places and giving women syphilis before sewing them up. Where's Tomás de Torquemada when you need him?

On the other hand, perhaps this stuff could come in handy-- I'm thinking of a sort of "reverse glory hole", framed in glass, with George Bush, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld as the glued-in-place celebrity orifices. And of course hand out free condoms to anyone who asks. And rather than have it at Gitmo (its so far out of the way) I'm thinking it should be set up somewhere more accessible, like maybe Hollywood and Vine.

"My object all sublime
I shall achieve in time —
To let the punishment fit the crime —
The punishment fit the crime;
And make each prisoner pent
Unwillingly represent
A source of innocent merriment!
Of innocent merriment!"
(Yeah, I'm twisted)
Do you think that this story is true?
@mishima666:

What if morality isn't a competition?
I resisted posting this story when I first learn about it a day or two ago for a couple of reasons. First of all, it's hard to find confirmation for what is actually happening there, though that seems to be changing now and the atrocities do seem to real.

Secondly, reading about it made me so sick initially that I could only walk away from it, though I applaud you (and the editors) for making it more public.

I can't believe some of the comments here. They make me nearly as sick as the perps in this story.

This isn't about Islam or the middle east, and some of the reactions have been as hateful as any krazy glue wielding Iraqi. Matthew Shepard was hung on a fence in Wyoming by his peers for being gay. We are verbally and physically attacked daily in urban and rural areas, simply for being different.

The cumulative effect of these attacks are ultimately not unlike having our asses glued shut. It's just a "kindler, gentler", more "civilized" form of torture, so just shut the fuck up with your self-righteous comments.

While our national gay organizations rally the troops for gay marriage, our youth are ostracized by classmates and even families, to the point of committing suicide in the U.S.

Last I checked, none of the big US gay rights groups has issued a statement of the Iraq killings, even though they've been public knowledge for several months now. If they don't speak up, how can we expect our Justice Department to do so?
I think it's time to leave Miss California alone and take on the real criminals Perez Hilton doesn't want to blog about. These people are animals: this is heartwrenching.
"Yeah, well most societies in the world have practiced some form of slavery at some time, and whatever wrong was done by forcing citizens of Japanese ancestry into internment camps, they fared far better than the Americans and Europeans detained by the Japanese. I don't think there's much comparison there," wrote Mishima666.

I thought the whole point of us Americans were that we were the "exceptional" people. That we are a Christian people. That we are a nation of laws. That we don't do torture. Well, if one closely exams the post-Reconstruction history of slavery regarding lynching and castration, Americans did that. In fact, the whole post-Reconstruction regime was a system of state sponsored terrorism against people of color.

My point isn't obligatory moral equivalence; the point is that all humans, regardless of law, religious profession and what not, have a tendency to engage inhumane treatment of other humans, to vary degrees. One can make the argument that the US held the moral ground pretty much during WWII, with lapses regarding Japanese Americans. Germany with it high culture lapsed into system of state sponsored torture against Jews from.

The point, once again, is that humans have a tendency regardless of nation, religion and politics to engages inhumane treatment of other people, particularly those who are deemed the "other."
Savagery begets savagery. I don't think this war was ever intended to help the Iraqis. This war is for the organizations who profit from wars.
Of course it wasn't. When they were drumming for war with Iraq and telling us what heroes American troops would be seen as, anyone who knew even a little bit about the Middle East knew that it was the recipe for a civil war. If we knew it, didn't they?
I'll disagree that this is torture. Torture implies that you may live through it. This is murder through most horrible means imaginable, and if the bit about the video being distributed on cell phones is true, we have stumbled on a true example of the snuff film.
Whilst this is obviously terribly exciting to those who are keen to be outraged (and amazingly evil if true), every element of it screams "urban legend", from the mysterious glue used, to the mysterious drink which causes diarrhea, the unnamed "prominent human rights activist" to the "videos on cellphones" to the very fact that it's been called torture, not murder. I've got little doubt that armed militia may well be targeting and torturing gay Iraqis in many ways, but crazy nonsense like this? Seems unlikely.

So, unless there's some actual evidence, I think I'm going to have to with disbelief on this one.
Alex W brings up a good point.
Frankly the depths of disgusting barbarism that humans can sink to is just depressing. (I think it's always been this way, throughout human civilization - we just have better reporting today so we're more aware of atrocities.) Nothing is surprising anymore. It truly makes me wonder why humans were built to be capable of such monstrosity. I think humankind is pretty much doomed. It's really a shame because there are so many GOOD people out there that must always live in fear because of the evil that exists in this world.
Things like this make me immediately navigate to I Can Has Cheezburger
Go ahead, have a PETA-centric point of view. I am thoroughly disgusted with the human race. We routinely torture people -- and animals -- yet have the galls to declare ourselves the most advanced species on Earth, and worse, label people who do such heinous things "animals." Sorry, but animals don't do what our miserable excuse for a species does, every day, since the second we arrived on the scene.
Have to agree with you, Durian - comparing this kind of behavior to "animals" is incorrect - "animals" (those that aren't human) don't sink to these levels of depravity.
By the way JRDOG Native Americans tortured Americans too. Whats the point! As a group African/Americans did not torture anyone. God knows after what was done to them even after the civil war; retribution in the form of torture might have entered someones mind. But it did not seem to happen.

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