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OCTOBER 12, 2010 2:43PM

I was born Baptist....

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but have since converted to hedonism.

 (Apologies to Woody Allen)

 

Ever since I de-converted from Christian fundamentalism, one of my favorite games has been to see who does and doesn’t stay in the faith. I had a good deal of hope for my kid brother-- Sam-- who is twenty years old. We smoked pot in my parents’ backyard last Christmas and compared notes on the girls we were dating. We were so high during Christmas dinner that all we could do was stare at our plates and giggle-- so much so that Grandma couldn’t help but remark that it was nice to see we still had maintained a sense of “Christmas cheer” into adulthood.

I don’t know what happened to Sam, and he doesn’t want to talk about it, but Jesus got a hold of him again-- much to my dismay. He spent his summer in Florida with Campus Crusade for Christ, witnessing to girls in bikinis on the beach. I teased him a good deal about how much he suffers for the Lord, but he told me with all earnestness that it was a time of “spiritual growth for him.”  He doesn’t smoke pot anymore or go to the house parties at his college, and he doesn’t ask after Jenny anymore either. Which is really what stings most of all.

Maybe it shows how much I’ve changed in the last six years, but I don’t understand why Sam went back to it. Baptists preach a sort of holier-than-thou asceticism, and they tend to define good behavior in terms of what you don’t do, instead of what you actually do. He and my parents look down their noses at me because a)I left the church and b) of my “hedonistic lifestyle.”

I myself would not call the lifestyle of a starving artist in New York City hedonistic by any stretch of the imagination--- unless, of course, you enjoy digging money out of your couch to pay your rent. But I certainly don’t abide by their rules anymore, so they try to shame me with the term “hedonist.”  However, I think the greater shame is in refusing to enjoy what’s been put here in front of you.

When I left the church, it was like a whole new world had opened up to me. I remember going to Blockbuster with my friends the first week of college, and realizing that I could rent whatever I wanted. My mother had been very strict about the sorts of movies we watched, so I promptly rented just about everything I had never been allowed to see-- Sex and The City, Angels in America, Annie Hall.  It became a project of sorts, to catch up on all the pop culture I hadn’t been allowed to consume. And I realized it was GREAT, and that whoever thought I’d act like Samantha Jones because she’s on the teevee was pretty stupid.  

I started drinking. That was more difficult, because all I had ever been told was not to do it. But, after a few nights bent over the porcelain throne, I learned that I could do it without becoming some sort of moral derelict. I smoked pot, and I realized it wasn’t a gateway drug. I started having sex. And identity crisis aside, I learned that sex is fun and pleasure is good for you. It only becomes a big deal when you spend 18 years being told not to do it.

I learned that sometimes it is good to stay out all night, and sometimes class needs to be cut in favor of real life. And I learned that “unbelievers” were actually more like me than not, and worth getting to know as something other than potential converts.

My suspicion is that my family is secretly more jealous than disapproving, because I am free of the fear that someone’s going to smite me for enjoying my life. I just wonder why the fundamentalists haven’t figured out how to incorporate “having fun” into a godly lifestyle.

And I wonder why they don't leave the faith anyway because who wants to worship a God without a sense of humor? 

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God not only has a sense of humor, but she designs morality for our purposes, not her own. Any God who needs us to be moral in order to be happy is not God.

I have written quite extensively on this in my articles on Christian Humanism and Liberation Morality. This is not to say that I don't come to some of the same conclusions as the Fundies, but for differnt reasons. Generally, promiscuity is not a good thing - but avoiding it has more to do with human well being than avoiding divine retribution (which is only merited if we victimize others - not from loving them).

Rated with hugs.
I will have to read your stuff! I like that God doesn't need us to be moral in order to be happy.

Thanks for your thoughts. :)
I was raised in the Assemblies of God . . . similar fundamentalism, with a side of crazy, at least by most standards. It has been pretty good to be out from under the crazy . . . there's probably a book in there, somewhere.
oh Owl, so many of my AG friends went to my Baptist high school! It's really something being a queer around those folks, isn't it?
God has a huge sense of humor I believe. Churches are manmade and filled with people. That ain't good and usually leads and historically has led to problems. Enjoyed your writing.
You will find lots of good company here. I spent years in evangelical Christianity (after spending years being raised Catholic...a double whammy). There were a series of events that lead me out of that life, but one of the more powerful one was an encounter with a gay man dying of AIDS. I'm wondering if your brother is backsliding back into the dogma. CCC is quite structured...one only has to understand the "four spiritual laws" and you are good to go. I have a feeling that life will eventually happen to Sam and he will have you as support and guide. But in the meantime, that must hurt like hell (no pun intended). It sounds like we have many shared experiences. The light side is a good one. R
I don't suppose I turned my back as much as I slid sideways out of fundamentalism and into... self actualization. I wouldn't say hedonism, although I drink, dance, play the occasional card, and read only if it amuses me or is highly controversial. My youngest brother is also a member of the slideways group, the middle fellow,... well, he wasn't so lucky. He's a Baptist minister. Makes for fun times on holidays. Like you, I'm interested in hearing more from Mr. Binder.
Your experience reminds me of a tradition the Amish have: every teenager has to leave the community for a time and live in the world outside before deciding if they want to continue and have a life as Amish, or give it up and become one of us sinners. They drink and smoke and some do drugs, and they end up getting so sick and so lonely, they go right back home and never leave again. Seriously. Your upbringing wasn't as sheltered as theirs though. Still, it sounds pretty strict. Glad you didn't "relapse" into fundamentalism. Shalom. Rated.
Nice. Really, really nice. ~r
Ah, I was born a Baptist, too—a strict one with so many rules they were pasted to the inside of the hymnal so we could read them in unison on Sunday mornings. I really think the members of my childhood church believed they would be the only ones to reach heaven.

I went to Moody Bible Institute and married an evangelical and raised children in the Church, but finally in my 40s, I washed my hands of it all. It's not so much that this subculture I'm stuck in has no sense of humor or rejects personal pleasure, or that I want to be a hedonist, however you define the term. It's that I determined the Old Testament was written by the victor, a remote middle-eastern tribe in the bronze age, and I cannot live my life based on the religion they brought to those they conquered. The idea of a loving Jesus who brings redemption is appealing, but I cannot reconcile that appeal to the root of this religion, which dismisses the rest of the world's ancient cultures by leaving them out of their written history and suggests all of life began with their root, Adam. The Christians I know today are so focused on the comfort they get from Jesus that they ignore the truths of world history and science.

Now, my eyes have been opened, too, but not to things like pot and Sex and the City. They have been opened to a world that did not begin in the Garden of Eden. It’s amazing how your world view changes when you let go of the creation story.
Good piece of writing. I grew up in the Methodist Church, and although drinking was frowned upon, I don't recall having as many rules as the Baptists. Dancing and card playing were certainly okay, and many members of the congregation were smokers (well, it was the 50s/60s).

When I was in my early 20s, I dated a wonderful Baptist girl for awhile and she wanted very much to convert me, but it just didn't 'take'. Today, although I am not an atheist, I have not had a lot to do with structured religious institutions in decades, and can't say that I miss the experience. Your brother may someday come to a similar conclusion, taking from his fundamentalist upbringing those things that make sense to him, and leaving the rest behind.
@Robyn--- a number of my friends from high school went to Moody, and my parents used to take classes there. So you know just how fundie I was!

I am so happy and surprised to find so many people who've left the church here.....growing up it seemed like nobody left, but here you all are, on OS!
Imagineering an imaginary entity is not necessary to being a good/decent person.
I am living proof that a human being can live a good life, be respectful of other, human and aminal and not have a neurotic need to be judged by superstition.
To believe otherwise is spiritual masturbation.
The stunted life from which you've fled isn't the exclusive realm of Christian fundamentalists, I spent many years from my late teens through mid-twenties practicing a form of evangelical buddhism that was just a restrictive. Glad that period is ancient history now.

Rated for hedonistic lifestyle.
I have to say that I have a great amount of respect for you. Religion is scary and I think the biggest reason it's scary is that everyone thinks they are right and if you don't agree with them, you are wrong, and even worse, everyone is so quick to judge. I believe that you should go with what you feel is right for you. You know what feels right to you and no one should make you go against what you believe. I know what it is like to go against what society deems as acceptable religious believes, and against what your family believes to be true and it is NOT easy. Many props go to you!
I'm new here, hope to write about my experiences with Jesus and the church, which are very different from each other. Enjoyed the honesty and humor in your post. I'm on my way to a fundamentalist church because I love the music. I usually leave before or during the sermon otherwise I might scream. But because of my own experiences, I believe there is a living Christ alive and well, but not often found in 'the church'.