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Currently wishing I didn't have to do any grading. Before that, graduate student and new mom. Now an actual Dr. of Something or Other and the Kid is two and some months. Before that, a Southern girl in the West. Now a Southern girl in the South, dreaming of being in the West. Before that, I can't remember. Still waiting for the flying car.

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AUGUST 1, 2011 1:11PM

A Government By the Sociopaths and for the Sociopaths

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Not-So-Simple Steps for Ridding Your Country of Sociopathic Office Holders

I'm just going to throw this stuff out at you. You decide what you want to do. These are simply thoughts, thoughts about ways to change the situation. I'm sure there are better ones.  Here goes:

Forget trying to recognize a sociopath on sight. Sociopaths are very good at hiding. But, the sociopaths in office need to go. This includes both sides of the fence, people. I direct this essay to the left, to the right, to the middle. We're in trouble, y'all. We gotta do something now. Over 80% of Congress appear to be massively corrupted douche canoes. Pardon my slang.

1. Who wants to run for office?

CLAIM: Sociopaths are attracted to these positions because those positions have power and come with attention and money. Emotionally healthy people are often not because, hell, they want to stay emotionally healthy. Nothing is more emotionally tiring than listening to other people complain all day or trying to compromise or maintaining strong principles in a position often fraught with corruption, by its very nature. Also, many of these people are people born to money, who feel entitled to status and power. They are Frat Guys Without A Cause. It's a bad situation. 

So, FIRST, we must recruit people to run for office who don't really want to do it, but will, because they see no other way to help others. We need public servants again, not these corrupted fake-elite fools.

I'm not kidding. 

2. Forget the President. Seriously, it's one effing job. Forget it for now. We need to concentrate on changing CONGRESS-- a massive change. It isn't a matter of career politicians that "need to go." That's bullshit. Some career politicians might be good people. The key is to find people who don't want to take money from corporations and don't answer to them. Let's face it. Our President, as much as we hoped for him, is a bought and sold lackey of the corporate contingent. The majority of Congress is as well. The Tea Party people are both bought and sold and completely fascist crazy. What more proof do we need, after this weekend?!?

We have to get rid of these people. The Tea Party is "100% on their way to creating concentration camps for non-believers" crazy. We have to crush their initiative and crush it now. Or the Republic as anything more than a fascist state is 'done for.' I'm sorry it's hyperbolic sounding, but unfortunately, it's going to happen. It is happening. We have to stop it now, before we're at some kind of civil war or something.  

3.  Let's make a plan.

 The first part of the plan goes like this:

        a. Screw the presidential race for now. We'll deal with that later.

        b. Concentrate on replacing the Congress. I mean, replacing about  

              80% of them. 

         c. A new party

I know. I know. It's a difficult proposition, and we only have two years. But, I propose a 'party of the middle.' While I hate slogans, an appropriate one would be "We Don't Always Agree on Policy, But We Do Agree on America." 

         d. We have to get people to vote.

If all eligible people voted, I feel strongly we wouldn't be in this mess. Getting people to vote will be difficult. My own parents, who voted for Obama, now say they won't be at the voting booth in the Fall because "What is the point? They are all the same." They have given up. I can't blame them for feeling this way. So, people need to be determined. Not excited. Determined. Change doesn't happen overnight. But, in this case, if we upended Congress, a sizable dent could be made fairly quickly.

We have an Internet. We have a few wealthy people out there who agree. Screw the soundbites and the slogans. We need better results than the ones we have now, choices that are sending into third world status and making us fear and despise our government. We need to get to work.

 

***Edited to add the question: 

 What would you like in a party? What would make you vote for a candidate? 

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I can't believe I'm here posting.
We got to get up and off the couch first.
And realize that being on the blue team or red team makes no difference. We got to have Americans' team first and foremost.
I'll vote for that one.
and glad to see ya 'round these parts dear.
janie, my friend, I'm 100% in platonic love with you, too. :) That's a good idea, the push to get people out to vote.

Mission--I like your points. What would YOU like in a party, a new party?
Odetteroulette ~ having a nation with a lot more people voting scares the pants off Republicans as we have seen in a host of methods to suppress the vote from ridiculous felon lists to black box voting tabulation tricks to absurd and inconvenient voter ID cards. It also helps to have a voting public that is uninformed about all of this, too!

If the majority of eligible voters actually did vote the lay of the land might be far different than it is now.
What would I like in a party? Strippers and coke!

However, I would posit that 80% of Congress is corrupt (a generous assessment) because the same percentage of the population is corrupt. Honest people do not put dishonest people in power over them. Most people want to keep their greed intact before all.
Harry-I adore you, but I cannot agree that rampant corruption among the voters causes rampant corruption among politicians. Rampant corruption happens for a variety of reasons, including opportunity, human frailty, and the push of monied interests. In other words, Frank from Cleveland may do his level best in his choices at the polls, lead a reasonably good life, and still not have a good person for whom to vote. The human condition is about making mistakes. Corruption happens when people do evil to others deliberately over and over. I don't agree with your assessment that the average voter is intrinsically a corrupt person.
I understand but I'll always believe people inherently know the difference between right and wrong and therefore truth from fiction. It's a choice.

And since we are judged by our fruits and not our stated intentions I just need an explanation why we allow ten-year wars of evil occupations but scream bloody murder for change at the sight of Janet Jackson's nipple (change which did happen, swift and furious). Were we an honest people, those reactions would be reversed. No voting required.

The sin of omission is just as lethal as the sin of commission, no?
" What would you like in a party? What would make you vote for a candidate? "
well, that he or she takes a comprehensive personality
test, followed by
3 independent
psych evals.
I'm glad that you aren't giving up. After eight years of insanity, a few months of sunshine through the crap left by the Republican sociopaths, this is almost the final straw for me. I can't believe we have such a self destructive impulse in our Tea Party-dominated government. Give me a day or two or three and I'll be back there with you fighting to take back our country from the sociopaths. I'm glad you're still going. Catch you later!
All I think you’d get with a new party…would be a new group of people with varying degrees of competence and varying degrees of ability to resist temptation. You would get competent, able, reasonable candidates and incumbents…and incompetent, marginal, ideologues. You would get…different people filling the roles the people in the two major parties already fill…both good and bad.

If anything, you might lobby for a parliamentary form of government…which brings its own negatives, but which might obtain the kinds of restructure you want to see—but most likely will not see from a third party.

Keep in mind that the Republicans were once a third party!
I'm deathly sick today, laying on the recliner and trying to get up enough energy to curse at the parade of idiot journalists and politicians on CNN/MSNBC, et. al. with their fatuous, formulaic lies about how we've come to this pass. Since I don't have the energy to do it myself, thanks for posting some thoughts which closely parallel what I've been thinking for a long time. To all of your points: yep. I'm not as optimistic as you are, however, in our ability to implement real change (short of violent revolution) in a system that is so profoundly corrupt from top to bottom. My take is that democracy, to the extent that it ever existed in a republic which was set up for the benefit of landed gentry and mercantile interests, has long since gone the way of the passenger pigeon.
Thoughtful post. Made me think of a segment I just saw on the news about a middle-of-the-road third party organization completely organized online. I can't recall the name, but now I'm going to start googling it. It is time for a rational third party, especially for Congress. People forget how powerful Congress is.
Harry--Holy hell, I have no idea why everyone was so indignant over her nipple. So indignant that they had to look it up on the Internet and exclaim over it repeatedly. Perhaps it's the same impulse as my grandmother who used to look greedily over the Sears catalog, through the men's underwear section for the possibility of a penis, which she would then circle and show us, filled with "shock" ... over something none of us could see.

I think people get caught up. It's why we have fads. I'm not asking for perfection. Just more realization. Perhaps a smidgen of responsible action thrown in there.

James--HA!

Frank--Well, clearly, it's possible to raise a third party as we've seen in recent years. But, can it be a party based on something other than hate? That's all the Tea Party is really about, in my opinion, solid hate. A third party but without the Neo-Nazis and haters of anyone brown would be good.

I agree that people are people, but in this case, more importantly, the corporations are the problem. Get some good, solid rule changes for corporations and banks over a period of ten to twenty years ... well, that might help.

nanatehay--I'm not hopeful at all. I would rather be determined. I'm a single mother. Determination is the only thing you can have. Hope is crazy. Determination gets me through the day when we both vomit into the toilet from an illness, and I still have to work that night for five or six more hours after she sleeps. That and caffeine.

Damn, I voted for Dennis in that primary. I mean, I'm uber-liberal, but I would compromise (true compromise--not that fake capitulation crap Obama did this last week) with moderate, old-timey Repubs on a few things. You know, keep your guns. Who cares? Not me. Careful, judicious spending and saving. Taxes would have to be their compromise. The whole "Not taxes!!" mentality is asinine and so uninformed. I'd insist on thinking of America as a community of people as well. I know how the Republicans swear they are self sufficient and all ... bootstraps ... whatever, but community working together is smarter as a way to live. Also, that bootstraps shit is a total lie. Come on, now. Everyone who has success had a helping hand or two somewhere in there. Education needs to be revived.

Again, I think the primary focus should be on Congress. The Presidential election won't change anything at this point that I can see. Getting some of these buttheads out of Congress might be a good start. Not that it would ever be over. Just like writing, good government is a process.
its a serious case of Entropy in the political sphere due to a distracted, apathetic public.
I would say the corrupt media system is a big part of the problem.
tune into alternative media.
vzn--I didn't add the media problem, but it is one. I think saturation of the media is a problem as well as its complicity. Twenty-four hour media helps to create an exhausted viewership.

But a lot of it is like that frog in the boiling water. The water started boiling slowly. We're used to it now. It's hard, for some, to know to jump out.
You are absolutely correct that the major problem with our government is that the process whereby people get elected tends to weed out all the honorable people and attract only sociopaths. I've said a million times that the skills required to get into office--being able to raise lots of money--are completely different than the skills required to actually govern effectively, and that before we can even begin to fix the system we need to fix the way political campaigns are financed.

As for how we do THAT when we can't even seem to get enough honest actors in there to tackle that issue, you're hit it on the head: get people to vote.

But it's almost a Catch-22 at this point, because in order to get people to vote you need to give them someone worth voting for, but we're not going to get candidates worth voting for unless larger numbers of people start getting involved in the political process.

If we can break this vicious circle ourselves, that would be great. But I'm afraid it's going to have to get a lot worse and the middle class is going to have to suffer a lot more economic hardship before they finally start questioning what the media tells them and looking for a serious alternative to the way the system currently operates.
Good to see you posting. What I'd like in a party I already have (the Green Party). What they don't have is votes... and the ability to remain uncorrupted once they get power. That seems to be a universal human failing.
Odette, I think it's great you're posting. I don't know what the right thing is, but I do know that the right thing involves throwing out some ideas among regular people and discussing and organizing, a public that is not just consumers of and viewers of politics but creators of and participants in it.

For now I'd settle for even smaller victories, like having Open Salon (and other forums) remain politically active. I fear that tomorrow we'll go back to discussing fluff. It's all about keeping the momentum. I wish the OS owners would create an all-political space where there were a reliable place to meet and discuss that would not be overwhelmed by tabloid nonsense, and that could become the go-to place for people wanting to participate.
Oh, and by saying I'd settle for smaller victories, I don't mean to suggest there's any reason not to shoot for bigger ones. It's just that those are hard to achieve in a single step. So I'm into the tactics of the moment-to-moment as well as the big picture. Certainly I'm for you carrying on with this big picture talk as well. :)
I don't think you need a middle party. Both your parties are right of centre by the standards of the rest of the 'western world'. Our (by our lights) quite conser-ati-e (sorry, the letter between u and w is not working on my keyboard) party here in Canada is to the left of the U.S. "Democrats". You need a real left party, one that will stand for the needs of the population.
Myriad--You are right, of course. I was thinking along the lines of "what if leaders had been responsible about this?" My conclusion was that, if leaders had truly been bipartisan, then the crazies wouldn't have stood a chance, with middle ground dems and repubs working together. The problem is that this approach is no longer realistic. Really, the ideal situation would be the creation of TWO parties, one with the middle and one with a stronger left. It's too bad people vote by slogans so often and not by examining the issues. :/

Kent--I do think throwing ideas is a good beginning. Action will have to happen soon though. I don't think any of the parties currently in play as third parties are viable. I think we need a whole new ballgame.

Kemstone--Well, I think the first photos of the elderly Alzheimer's patient in the street will be hard to stomach. Well, I hope it will be. I think people are awakening from their stupor, but it's true that most people have no real idea of poverty and suffering. Right now, poverty for many in the middle class is shopping at Target. It's only now beginning to sink in that being homeless is a real possibility. :(
I didn't even get to see "The Nipple" in real time. I don't watch tv. I'm just a bit bitter.
marik--You know, it was actually covered by a very large nipple ring. You could not see it. Although the guy at work who was showing it to me seemed both horrifically excited and horrified, all at the same time. Sad.
Your initial point is critically on the mark. Good people who might have a call to service will not run for office. Even local elections are so dirty and below the belt that a good and sane man (or woman) would never subject themselves or their families to the election process. The media has certainly pandered and facilitated the acceptance of low and despicable. But the American public bears much blame. We are fed a steady diet of disrespectful, disreputable, and disgusting behavior. And then always ready for more. The overall culture no longer values ethics, morality, integrity and compassion. Intelligence and intellectual capacity are getting lower on the value scale every day. Can this society produce the strength of character necessary to withstand the power, corruption and greed that is so instantly assessable and so blatantly celebrated as acceptible?
As you say, sociopaths gravitate toward power. The problem, as history attests, is that far more rightwing sociopaths actually attain power. I suppose that's because the rich and powerful have more to lose, and thus are more inclined to do anything to maintain the status quo.

But I don't see any way to avoid these natural human tendencies, so it seems to me the solution isn't to seek philosopher-kings -- good luck with that -- but to work for the sociopath who most closely conforms to your political ideology.

In any case, this may be a moot point in this country thanks to the horrible decision by rightwing zealots in Citizens United.
You've got it so right about those seeking these positions. It's kind of hopeless the way the system is when sociopaths are the ones with all that bad energy and drive and who kill off the opposition in their sociopathic little ways. I don't have any solutions but I agree we should recruit leaders cause the ones who are voluteering are a nasty bunch- "Fratboys without a cause." So true.
Odette, you are right on. It's the Congress and let's not forget state legislators.
rated
Our reporters have mostly sold out and pretty much suck. Media goes after the hot story, cheap thrill. Everything has been reduced to talking points and soundbites. Fox has a better marketing strategy, and that has to be addressed. I agree that Congress should be the main focus, but to ignore the power of possibly nominating the next Supreme Court Justice (Oh please God, please have Clarence Thomas thrown off out, amen ) would be foolhardy.
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