Currently wishing I didn't have to do any grading. Before that, graduate student and new mom. Now an actual Dr. of Something or Other and the Kid is two and some months. Before that, a Southern girl in the West. Now a Southern girl in the South, dreaming of being in the West. Before that, I can't remember. Still waiting for the flying car.


MARCH 17, 2012 9:39AM

Legislation Is Violence, Too

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Let me be clear. I'm not a person who believes in violence. I believe in passive resistance, in writing, in voting, and in change. But, I'm starting to be afraid, and very angry, about the violence from ultra-conservative forces within the government, violence being expressed in their legislative documents. Make no mistake. The legislation being introduced is violence. It is violence against women. It is not American. It is not, indeed, Christian in any way whatsoever, no matter the claim. It is about power and subjugation. We must resist. We must resist with our words and our votes. I posted this post as a comment on Tom Cordle's very good post on freedom of religion. Take the time to read it, if you have time. 


Women have just been compared to cows and pigs. It doesn't get any clearer than that. Religion is being used as a cudgel to dominate and hurt women. It is not Constitutional. It is actually, I would argue, evil.

It is evil to subjugate other people. Furthermore, be aware that it never works in the end. In the entire recorded history, very few dictatorships, especially religious ones, stand for a long time. In fact, in recent history, only a few dictators have made it to nearly the end of their lives without being drug through the streets, their heads on a stick. 

It is evil to subjugate other people, to make them practice your religion and not freely practice their own. It is evil to force other people to live in manner not consistent with liberty. It is evil to force women to have a long, large electronic dildo forcibly shoved up their vaginas, to try to frighten and intimidate them into compliance with your religious beliefs. In fact, once upon a time, not so long ago, pushing an object into someone's vagina against her will, in this country, was considered rape, wasn't it?

It is both evil and completely unconstitutional to be fired for taking a legal drug like birth control, for one of its intended purposes. It is evil to force other people to agree about who is officially a person. (Apparently, according to "God," corporations are people--He did some more creating there! Who knew?!? But women are now farm animals, who will be forced to carry their dead babies until their bodies 'naturally' expel them. Whatever 'naturally' means here.)

It is evil to force one gender to stay at home, to have children without reasonable, available birth control. It is evil to compare them to farm animals, ones eaten in this country in large portions. It is not Christian to do or believe any of these things, but just as importantly, it is NOT AMERICAN. It is not part of the American or Constitutional experience.

If you believe that your religion comes before the rights of other human beings, then you are neither following your religion, if you are a Christian, nor the American experiment. You want totalitarian rule. You want a religious dictatorship. You want thousands dead in a religious war. Children lying in the streets, bloated and smelly, while a few rich, white men sit in smoky rooms, laughing around fat cigars. You want suffering in the millions, poverty-stricken people living in the streets. You want women covered in veils, the very thing you all pretended was so terrible only a few short years ago, and forced into marriage, prostitution, and slavery, to your religion.

And I'm here to tell you: We will fight you. I don't know who will win. But, we will fight you. We will fight you for our liberty. We will fight you for our freedom. We will fight you for our freedom of religion. We will gather the fortitude of our ancestors, who came here in search of religious freedom, and we will fight. And ironically, we'll be fighting for your freedom as well as our own. If only you understood that. If only. But, make no mistake, we will fight.

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Never mind that numbnut on Salon and her defeatist propaganda. I'm certainly not linking that article. We must fight this situation. We must stand together.
Don't have to physically fight -- just mobilise and vote/keep such swine out of office: After all, women make up more than half the population.

What kills me is that I thought such issues had been decided a long time ago; I'm sick about what's happening.
Boarnerges1: Well, exactly my point. :) I'm opposed to physical violence.

jane: I'm glad you stand with me. Thank you.
The Flat Earthers who believe that Jesus walked with dinosaurs are impossible to deal with. Everything they say and do seems to be contradictory to common sense and logic. It seems the farther the world moves into the 21st century, the further they want to drag us backwards. How did these people gain so much power in the first place? The mind wobbles.

this might cheer you up:


"An Ohio State Senator is turning the tables on men seeking to regulate women’s access to reproductive health. Sen. Nina Turner (D-Cleveland) has introduced legislation regulating men’s access to erectile dysfunction drugs. The Dayton Daily News has the details:

Before getting a prescription for Viagra or other erectile dysfunction drugs, men would have to see a sex therapist, receive a cardiac stress test and get a notarized affidavit signed by a sexual partner affirming impotency, if state Sen. Nina Turner has her way.

The Cleveland Democrat introduced Senate Bill 307 this week.

A critic of efforts to restrict abortion and contraception for women, Turner says she is concerned about men’s reproductive health… Turner said if state policymakers want to legislate women’s health choices through measures such as House Bill 125, known as the ‘Heartbeat bill,’ they should also be able to legislate men’s reproductive health.

Turner’s bill tracks FDA guidelines which recommends doctors determine whether the root cause of men’s sexual disfunction is physical or psychological. She describes her bill as an effort to “legislate it the same way mostly men say they want to legislate a woman’s womb.”

There have been similar efforts in other states. An Illinois bill would require men to watch a “horrific video” on the side effects of Viagra. In Virginia, Sen. Janet Howell (D) submitted a bill requiring men to undergo a digital rectal exam before recieving a prescription for erectile disfunction drugs...."
I don't know who will win.

We've got a hell of a fight on our hands. Let's make sure WE win it. Because the alternative is unthinkable. Hell hath no fury like women who protect both their children AND their rights

Here's one thing though. Right now Santorum and like-minded men are riding high preaching to the choir and feeding raw red meat to the lunatic fringe. But.... is he going to do as well when he has to broaden his base with NON-crazy voters? I'm guessing no.

But we definitely have to stand up and make noise about this and a lot of it. There's a lot of anger I'm hearing, lately. Let's harness it constructively and WIN.

I could not agree more and was just this morning wondering what we did back when I was a teenager that brought everyone out to vote. How can anyone be falling for these assholes spiels? I am NOT an animal and will stand beside you and fight for my rights!
Why would ANY woman vote for these idiots? It is scary! The demeaning treatment by these sanctimonious pisspots has to stop. This is not religion-this is control. The Talibanization of the Christian Right, the Orthodox Jews, and Pope Benedict-and all of those other groups whose power rests on subjugating othersthrough fear. Bullying and threats are the only way they hold any power over their 'flock'-not love, peace, or helping others. I really do not understand why having a uterus and a brain are mutually exclusive to these numbnuts-because they sure are showing that having a penis and a brain is not compatible-at least in ultra right-wing men! R
It is not Christian to do or believe any of these things, but just as importantly, it is NOT AMERICAN.

Much more important. Religion has no legal behavioral status.
During almost fifteen [now about seventeen] centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What has been its fruits? More or less, in all places, pride and indolence in the clergy; ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution. - James Madison