OEsheepdog's Blog

And you thought you were having a bad hair day!

OEsheepdog

OEsheepdog
Location
From the Forest to the Shore, Connecticut, USA
Birthday
March 12
Title
Director of Change
Company
An unnamed non-profit health care provider
Bio
Change is good...that's what I keep telling my colleagues. It's difficult and hard. It's challenging and rewarding. It's fraught with peril. It needs to be done...yesterday!

MY RECENT POSTS

OEsheepdog's Links

Salon.com
Editor’s Pick
JANUARY 31, 2009 4:28PM

Dating at mid-life, now that's a crisis.

Rate: 23 Flag

You're not getting any younger, I was telling myself a more than three years ago . I have a keen grasp of the obvious. I'm single again, a bittersweet moment to be sure. It's time to meet someone "compatible",  whatever the hell that means, I think.

Immediately I ruled out meeting someone at work. I was in management, and if I raised an eyebrow, hello unemployment  and sexual harrassment suit. Plus I worked in a very toxic place, and had just ended a toxic marriage. I had a friend in grad school who broke up after a long term relationship with a co-worker. It was ugly, very ugly.

I've dated before, there should be nothing to it...are you like, connected to reality, big guy? Let's use logic (big mistake) and try to rely on past experience. When did I date last?  Back in the late twentieth century. The early 1980s. Before cell phones, facebook, blogs, Match.com, eHarmony.com., and STD. My daughters describe the 80s as the ancient times.

Dating the old fashioned way meant you pick up meet women in bars or at dance clubs. Let's see, if I use this time honored practice  at my advancing years I'm probably to meet women who were born after I graduated from high school. Plus the music they play, it's just freaking noise now.

In my mind I could hear this Conversation in a bar or club:

ME: So where were you when Kennedy was shot?

Twenty something female : Ted Kennedy was shot? When? Where?

OR she says: By the way, you're, like ,way too old to be here. EWWW, I'm being hit on by my DAD. 

Ok, back to the drawing board. What about other ways I met women in my past. Well, there was the "Certs Encounter" at the art museum. That relationship only lasted a few months. Lightning is not likely to strike again there.

I could ask my friends to set me up. Oh yeah, that was really successful. That's how I met my ex-wife. Then before that there was the paralegal who announced on our first date that "all men think through their balls." My comeback of "just like all girls think through their boyfriends' wallets"  which set the tone for the rest of the evening.

The interesting thing on this date was that she  "said" she was a vegetarian. She wore a leather jacket, leather boots, had a huge leather handbag. Her car had a leather interior, too. I asked how this leather fetish (I used a more discreet word that I can't remember) squared with her lifestyle choice  to be a vegetarian.

She said, "Well they have to do something with the skins after the cows are slaughtered. You don't want them to go to waste."  We dated three more times. No, I don't know why, but I like a challenge.

Now these are my friends helping me. I should probably choose my friends more carefully. 

Before that my friends had another prospect. They were a tad vague about who she was and what she did. Hmmm, can you say witness protection program? So we met, and over drinks and dinner I finally asked, "So what do you?

She said, "I'm a minister." I heard her quite clearly but went quickly into denial. "What do you administer?" I asked.

"No, I am a Protestant minister. Didn't XXXXX tell you?"

"No, they said you were a delightful person, but didn't mention your, er job, uh occupation,  I mean vocation." Please God, make me invisible. When I could still see myself, I realized I was on the visiting team.

"Well, they probably didn't tell you because they thought if you knew you might not show up. It's happened before, more than once."

Insert writer's pregnant pause here:

_____________________________________

She was delightful and we dated. She had stronger feelings for me than I did for her and it ended soon after. Happy ending for her, she later got married and had a fabulous husband and lovely daughter.

Wait this is my blog, it's about me here. I crossed off  "fixed up by friends," because it still wasn't clear which friends I kept and and which friends my ex-wife kept after the divorce. You have to be really careful about that.

So here I stood at middle life, or "halfway to death" as my daughters  delightfully describe it, reflecting. You do a lot of reflecting when you're not dating. You also do a lot of something else, but that leads, allegedly, to prostate cancer. It's not easy to find a date if you're a man pushing 50.  Besides, I hear it's no picnic for women either. I may have to resort to technology. That was the solution, and it was a success. However it's also another post at another time.

 

Your tags:

TIP:

Enter the amount, and click "Tip" to submit!
Recipient's email address:
Personal message (optional):

Your email address:

Comments

Type your comment below:
I have your prescription. This one should be easy. First, get yourself convicted of something heinous like murder. Double murder would be even better. I am not saying commit a murder. Definitely do not do that. That would be unethical. Just cop to one. A really bad one. Then go to prison and become pen pals with some women somewhere. There are women who throw themselves at convicted felons. You'll be married before you know it, and in the dating period you'll never have to worry about inconvenient drop-ins.
Thanks for the useful insight. It's very logical. I really do a great job picking my friends. LMAO.
This was a classic. I feel for you bro. I've been a one woman man since 1985 and can't imagine dating again... I hope I don't have to.

A lot of people are resorting to on-line dating. I have no idea about that.

Good luck man.
(rated)
Be open. Pay for it. It will add to variety.

Sadly, I'm right where you were three years ago.
Actually, that's where I was 3 years ago. I guess I didn't make that clear. Nuts.
and THIS is why I'm not dating...on the other side of 50...

though i'd not rule out a minister...as long as she wore garters under her vestments ;)
rated --ha -- just for the headline alone! 'tis crisis-inducing indeed! I'll be sure to let you know if I uncover the secret (fyi beware eHarmony)
a combination hooker/ house cleaner could be a crude but effective solution.
Glad you had success with mid-life crisis dating technology. I couldn't get past the profiles and previews. See: http://open.salon.com/content.php?cid=83410. Rated for being "one of us" who's "out there." There's gotta be a better way.
Brian, I never could shed light on that issue. I was her escort to a wide variety of wedding receptions, where she was the officiate. She only took me to the really good ones. I'd love entering the church were I was asked friend of the bride or groom by the usher. My answer was "Minister" and was told just sit anywhere. Her ceremonies were unique and I never heard her do the same one twice. I mean, unless you were married by her more than once, how would you ever know that she used new material for each ceremony.
Cindy -- I think I'm getting pretty good at headlines. It's the rest of the content that's just a little thin.This does have a happy ending. I was trying out the "leave them wanting more" rather than put this all into one post.
spud - That could lead to serious problems. Eliot Spitzer might explain better than me.
Women are great, but if you're not married, just enjoy it. They'll only make you bathe, change underwear way too often, you have to be mindful of when you fart, you can't pick your nose, you have to use glasses instead of drinking from the container in front of the fridge where everyone knows it tastes best!

Women are a mighty big hassle.
Mary Ellen -- That was a great post. Thanks for sharing. It's a jungle out there.
Bill Beck -- You need to do an advice column, man. Ask Bill Beck. Bill Beck has the answer, no make that has "an" answer. You're killin' me.
So we are to assume you went electronic, found love and lived (thus far, anway) happily ever after? I kind of wish you had made that clearer:) Otherwise I would take you to task for whining, which I would love to do, but now can't. DAMN!
Mr. Beck speaks a lot of truth. Perhaps in the second part we'll learn Mr. Sheepdog went for a language barrier by going for an asian mail order bride?
Geoff - anyone ever tell you, "you're not helping" hahahahaha.
This sheds light on something that many, many men must go through. Never really thought about it.
Keep doing what you are doing, and I totally believe it will happen. I'm not so sure I'd want to enter the "dating" scene again, if I were to find myself in that position.

Rated for timeliness and honesty and well, for revealing what goes on in at least one man's mind.
Funny, funny stuff and ended at the perfect spot (no, not the G) leaving me wanting more.
Dating is an ugly proposition. Which is why it (dating) never ended in any propositions for me. I'm a firm believer in a head on collision. We have insurance for that.
How about a Russian bride? Learn to make home-made vodka; mouth-watering borsch; and the real reason why the Wall came down. Maybe, even get a dancing pole for your living room!
Cheers Comrade!
Gayle -- Its a challenge.
cartouche -- I'm not as much of a lady's man to do the G spot thing.

bubba - nyet, nyet.

jane -- Ahem can't you let a write try and build some suspense ? ;)
I can't believe that you are keeping us in suspense as to what happened NEXT. Will there be a part 2? Inquiring minds want to know.
Emma there will be just havent written it
"ME: So where were you when Kennedy was shot?

Twenty something female : Ted Kennedy was shot? When? Where?"

I think today's 20' somethings would be saying "Caroline Kennedy was shot?"

Great post.
If anyone ever took my advice I would be mortified and deeply disappointed. I can only give such advice to stable folks like you who know better.

I was in a wedding once in NYC. It was a very posh event at some club on 5th Ave. I threatened to bring a monkey and wear a kilt with my tuxedo.
Sir Sheepdog (Old English), I am glad you made it through the uncertainty and to your wife. It sure is a strange and humbling path when we are not so young and stupid as we were the first time around! Can't wait to see the rest of the story of how you found her!

Although it is the custom here to respond to comments on our own posts, I like it better as it is on my other journaling site; you come to the commenter's blog to say thank you. (Here, responding on our own posts has the dual purpose of bumping ourselves back into the feed--not an insignificant fact!)

So thank you very much for reading about a little moment of my life. Hope you are enjoying your own little moments of today!
feeling your pain OES... let me know if you figure it out....
That Ted Kennedy response cracked me up! Talk about perspective and reality check! Brutal!

Hang in there! Don't think of it as a crisis. It's an adventure and that is a good thing at any age.
I, too, hear that middle age is quite an adventure once you remove the numerics from your mind. Feel free to seek out someone in a mutual social or professional circle, provided that it's not someone your ex has befriended. I'd also investigate whether there are any upcoming speed dating events in the area. If you're not that daring, you could also try the local grocery store - I hear it's a hotbed for dating prospects. However, be careful with online dating - the last time one of my friends tried it, her new paramour lawyer took her to court.
So... could you interested in an *older* woman?

Seriously, men in their 50s are attractive to both younger and older women-- if you went online you'd be inundated. Not so, women. And women who don't want to settle have an even bigger problem. Which is why you guys are going to hear more about my past then my present.
As a (today) 51 year-old who started dating in her 40s and found a great SO eight years ago, don't rule out the possibility that you just might find something wonderful. I, too, am an administrator in a non-profit healthcare organization (FQHC) and found myself going on some pretty awful dates. Just don't rule out the more mature women--we may have some sags and wrinkles, but our experience and our confidence are a potent and oh, yeah, sexy combination.
To enchant the ladies, the unwieldy task of choosing the proper waistcoat looms, an obstacle. One does not want to appear too colorful at first introductions! And then one does not want to appear a drab either.
Heard this story more than once, middle aged dating, but you managed to keep it original, probably the result of keeping it true. I would have liked to hear more about the minister.
It's actually not as bad as you thought. "That" doesn't cause prostate cancer -- it's widely regarded as helping to prevent it, by keeping the juices flowing. Do something good for your health, every day.
Would you answer this ad?

Pay careful attention because I am the guy you’ve been waiting for. I’m a true Renaissance man (Translation: I can do my own laundry). I am youthful, handsome and highly sought by many women (Translation: SWM, 44, 5’8”, decent looking, ready to meet Ms. Right). I am a grand explorer (Translation: unwilling to ask directions). I am Marlon Brando in The Wild Bunch (I ride a motorcycle). I am sensitive and caring (I care if I get my way), the King of the business world (I have a decent job). I am Jeremiah Johnson (I have a house in the mountains). I am Jimmy Buffet, Neil Young, John Mellencamp, Bonnie Raitt, The Grateful Dead and Lyle Lovett all rolled into one (I listen to their music). I am John Grisham, Ayn Rand, Stephen King, Frank McCort and Elmo Leonard (I read their books). I am Ed Abbey (I read his books and like to hike). In short, I am God’s gift to women (and then I woke up, I’m an athiest). Email me now, email me now, email me now…

My wife did, nine years ago. I hear she's very happy now. Oh wait, that was my ad.
Fairly funny column.
I'm on the "other side of 50".
Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy on the other side.lol

I'm single and just go about my life without thinking much at all about "dating" or, whatever word it is called by whomever.
One thing I HAVE learned over they ears(Damn, that's old sounding) is,
the times when I've met the most women and had the most fun have always been when I'm not "looking".
I have friends and acquaintances who regularly attempt to do this to me.lol
By "do this to me" I mean, they jealously attempt to ruin my peace and quiet.
So, I meet a lot of women in my business and, since I'm friendly and outgoing, I sometimes come across as if I might want to "get to know her", etc.
I talk to and kid with people in the store and everywhere.
I HAS led to a date here & there butt, it works better all around if I don't try to 'make it happen".
BTW-The same goes for sex.
So you have a job with a provocative title (Is Director of Change like the Potentate of Looking Great?), and a conventional social woe. Dating from your pool of coworkers might not be the thing to do, and your current friends are proving unhelpful, but maybe you could try shopping around for a volunteer job where you would find new friends who (this is important) don't know you. You could then indulge in reinventing yourself. Since I've been "between projects" I've volunteered working on repairing old wooden boats (people younger and fitter than I am, but this one is a good choice), and working at a genealogical library (mostly older and mostly women but I like it anyway). Both of these have yielded some potential paying work contacts, and some very good company. I also take classes when I can; this is an excellent way to meet new people.

Oh, and if there's a curling club near you, join it. Don't argue with me. Join it.
Two words, my friend:

Inflatable doll

or alternately:

Good porn.


Nuff said.

OK, I was just bustin' your chops. Been married for 25 years this October, so I can't say I have even a remote clue what it's like now to be back in the dating pool (is it a pool? Is anyone wearing suits?). Sounds like you had some eventual success, so I'll just shut up now.

Thumbed.
Remember, Seinfeld told us 99% of folks out there are UNDATABLE!
I have a better idea. Sublimate. Switch to learning the Argentine tango. For the six years it takes you to really learn to dance this incredibly sensual dance well enough to experience the "little death" that happens spontaneously on the dance floor, you'll be too consumed with trying to figure out how to keep your balance and lead an ocho to care about prostate cancer. But once you do figure it out...once you do figure it out...my friend, nothing, relationships, sex, nothing will ever be the same. I know what I'm talking about. I'm a sex therapist and an Argentine tango enthusiast.
Crisis? I get along fine with Judy. I miss a travel partner but the rest of it is hard work, difficult and annoying. I'm open to any age group but choose not to date anyone who doesn't know that Paul McCartney had a band before "Wings!"
I've got to say, I'm 41, dating a lot, and loving it. It's not hard to find dates at our "advanced" age. There are so many single men out there, and I imagine there are plenty of single women too.

So get over yourself and get out there. If you're willing to date someone you're own age, it's not hard peeps. I don't want to date younger men, and I'm enjoyed men in their 40s and 50s. I'm finding dating a whole lot better than when I was in my 20s.

Enjoy!
I haven't been on a date since. . . oh, 2000, the same year I broke up with my last boyfriend. I also haven't had an interview for a real job since March 2000. I feel like the invisible woman and maybe I am. I haven't met many men but I live in Massachusetts' Pioneer Valley which is not prime hunting ground for older heterosexual individuals.

I have been thinking that it would be nice to go on an old-fashioned date . . . the sort our parents' generation went on . . . well, at least, the sort depicted in older movies.

I would love to wear a little black dress and eat at an old-fashioned French restaurant.

Sigh! Trouble is, at about to turn 62, I haven't seen a single (meaning unmarried, not one individual) man my age that I find attractive.

Actually, I did back in October 2007 in the public library. He made what I later realized was a clumsy attempt to flirt with me. Thought he lived in the same town. Never saw him again.
You ought to try it at 65. All my dates remind me of my Aunt Hazel or my grandmother. And, to be fair, I'm sure I remind them of Gramps or Uncle Orville.
Great piece! I laughed aloud when you mentioned the lack of on-line dating sites when you started dating..... after I got divorced - and before I remarried - I took a peek at some of the "personal ads" on-line and discovered that 50-something men weren't looking for 40-something women... they were looking for 20-something women. Men whose pictures showed them wearing hats to cover increasing baldness and who, although they were obviously sucking in their stomachs, had considerable paunch, listed "attractive, physically fit, slim, sexy, etc. as prerequisites for the women they were looking for. I found it funny and extremely sad. Being curious, I looked at the women's ads and found their list of attributes they were looking for to be entirely different.."kind, funny, honest..." - well, you get the idea.

In many ways I find it extremely sad that we have become a society that resorts to on-line dating because we've distanced ourselves from "real" people.

Excellent blog - Rated!
Personally, I had a much better time being single in my 40s than in my 20s. I'm much smarter now, and I think women responded to that. Of course, now here I am married again....
i'm so glad that i know that you found the one. this is a fun piece but it's more fun to know you're not aloine anymore and that you're loved. it's much much harder for women. i'm 56 and dont' even think about it at all. men die earlier. jsut the facts. whatever. love lvoe lvoe and gratitude for you and for my platonic lesbian canine loves!!
A little late to the party but I'm pretty new here and just catching up. The title caught my eye and I loved the piece. I had a bad marriage for about 27 years and raised 3 girls (I had twins when I had a 2 year old) so who had the time or energy to get a divorce (or the money?) But now, I am relishing in my aloneness. I'm sure one of these days I will want to "date" but maybe not. The peace and quiet is sooo nice!