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APRIL 14, 2009 12:15PM

I turned down the CIA. Final Chapter

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For those of you who haven't read the back story it's here:

http://open.salon.com/blog/oesheepdog/2009/04/10/i_turned_down_the_cia_the_story_of_my_interviews_part_i

and here:

http://open.salon.com/blog/oesheepdog/2009/04/13/i_turned_down_the_cia_my_interviews_part_ii/comment

Summer passes into fall. Fall passes into winter. Winter passes into spring, and spring becomes summer. With each passing day, my memories of that unusual Saturday of my life start to fade. I no longer think about "if I answered this differently, or chose to write my essay like that," the outcome would have been different.

There have been some significant changes in my life. I no longer work at the construction project. I've signed up with a start up company, where I lead the sales and marketing efforts, as well as getting my Private Detective license. All seems right with the world.

In early June I get my third call from the CIA. The voice on the phone says they've scheduled an interview in Virginia the following week.

All expenses will be paid. I will fly to DC the afternoon before, have the interview the following morning and return to Boston in the early evening.

Flight and hotel reservations have been made in my name. I will have meal and transportation expenses. Those expenses will be reimbursed. I  want to remind the reader that the Cold War was still underway, and that these events took place before September 11, 2001. These were the days before e-tickets. It was a much different time.

I got to the airport and went to the ticket counter and gave them my name. Yes sir, Mr. Sheepdog, the clerk at the counter said. He printed off the ticket and also gave me my return itinerary and ticket. He printed a boarding pass and thanked me very much for flying Eastern Air Lines.

I walked to the gate through a metal detector and had to remove my watch, keys and pocket change to gain entry. I found the gate, boarded the plane, got settled and then looked at the itinerary.

It had my name printed and it also said US Navy. My mouth dropped open, and I recalled my first interview at the library where I had seen Jim's Department of Defense credentials. As I settled back in my seat, I thought, "this is going to be quite an adventure."

When I got to National Airport I boarded the Metro and took the blue line to Rosslyn. My hotel was across the street from the Metro station so I went and checked in.

It was mid afternoon, so I decided I would visit the Air and Space Museum on the Mall near the Smithsonian. I boarded the Metro and noticed that a hotel guest I saw in the lobby do likewise.

I ended up walking along the Mall for awhile before heading to the Air and Space Museum. While in the museum, I saw the individual from the hotel lobby and the Metro. After the museum i headed back to the hotel.

I had been given an address in surburan Virginia for the interview. I thought I might be going to the CIA headquarters in Langley, but this address was located west, southwest of DC. I took a cab and the cab driver was one of those polite, talkative southern types.

As we drove out on one of the interstates that connects the surburbs with downtown DC, I hoped this guy knew where he was going. It seemed he did, and we drove along surburban streets into an office park with large parking lots and what I would call low rise office building. Each of the buildings was post 1960s red brick no more than five floors in height. Many had the logos of the companies that had offices housed there. The building where my interview was, has a logo on it, but I had never heard of the company, and wondered if it were some obscure defense contractor shared space there.

At the entrance, I paid the fare, got a receipt, and got out of the cab. The cab driver mentioned something about finding a bathroom, but I was focused on the interview so I headed into the building.

In most office buildings of this type there would be a floor directory listing the name of the business and floor. You'd go to the elveator, press the floor button and get lifted.

The lobby of this office building didn't look like this. There were the velvet ropes which blocked off access to the elevators and two uniformed Federal Protective Service police officers sat at console flanked by a U.S, flag. I knew then that the logo on the building was in fact, ficticious.

I went up to the console, and gave my name and said I had an appointment. He asked for my ID, and instead of showing him my driver's license, I gave hime my Private Detective license photo ID.

Much to my surprise he was impressed and said, "This is pretty cool. I've never seen one of these before." He set about creating a temporary ID for me. While he did so I heard some commotion behind me.

Evidently the cab driver had parked his cab, entered the building quiety behind me and ascended some stairs looking for a restroom. He was being "escorted," with his arms firmly pinned behind his back, down the stairs by two armed FPS officers.  

The officer at the desk asked me, "Do you know him?" I replied he was the cab driver who brought me from the hotel, but other than on the ride over I had never seen him before. The officer behind the desk nodded to his two colleagues, and the cab driver was whisked out of the building amid his protestatons of "I just need to use the bathroom."

Turning his attention back to me, some is coming down to escort you. I had a paper badge, that stated in red letters Escort Required at all times.

A woman introduced herself to me and we took the elevator upstairs. We walked down a long corridor past offices and arrived at a corner office. I gentleman in shirtsleeves introduced himself as Don somebody and invited me to take my jacket off and get comfortable. This was the only time in my professional career I was offered this courtesy, and I took hin up on it.

We talked for maybe an hour and half. This first thing he talked about was my test results. Evidently, I had an aptitude for logisitics, and I was no longer considered for the Security Officer position. Not a crushing blow, but I felt a little disappointed. He talked about the logistics role, what would be expected of me and how there would be opportunities for rapid advancement within 18 months. I realized I wasn't being interviewed. He was offering me the job. This position paid about eight thousand dollars less than what I was currently making. Also, because this was a lower level job, relocation expenses would not be available.

I told him I wanted to think this over, and he gave me about 4 days to give it consideration. I needed to research housing costs in Virginia, and would it be worth it starting anew.

He told me there was a shuttle van that would take me to Langley where I could get my expenses reimbursed, and another shuttle would take me from Langley back to my hotel.   

As I rode in the van back to Langley, I had pretty much made up my mind that I would turn down the job. There were too many financial hurdles that needed to be overcome. When I got to Langley, I went to get my reibursements for the trip. In the hallway I saw the same person that I saw at the hotel, in the Metro, and at the Air and Space museum. That unnerved me a bit. I walked outside the building to take a shuttle back to the hotel.

The following Monday, I called Don, thanked him for the job offer and I turned down the CIA. I have often wondered how different my life would be had I accepted it. I don't have any regrets, I just know my life would have followed a different path.

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Interesting and creepy. I always thought I would have made a good spy. You have convinced me that the structure is too unnerving.
Interesting and creepy. I always thought I would have made a good spy. You have convinced me that the structure is too unnerving.
The "what ifs" of being a CIA operative. it's good to have no regrets and damn fine memories to share. --rated--
What exactly was a "security officer" ?

I had to laugh at the poor cab driver, hope he found somewhere to go.

Being an undercover spook is like the mafia, you never really resign from that club.
Cartouche -- I could you see you as a mata hari. I'm convinced you could be anything you put your mind to.

Mr. M -- To be fair, this was a pretty low level position. The hiring process was most memorable. The look on the cab driver's face as he was being frog marched out of the building was priceless. This was the first time I've ever talked about it.
You got further than I did in the process...
Lefty - thanks very much!

Ablonde -- At the time, the security officer conducted background interviews on all new hires to the agency. I wouldn't know about today.
Geoff -- I don't have an anger management problem, like you do, ha ha. My guess is that after I slipped through, they raised their hiring standards.
Very interesting reading. Everyone I knew, including me, that were offered positions with Uncle Sugar in DC/Virginia, had to pretty much take a financial hit for 2-3 years before they broke even, unless your spouse had a very good job offer there-abouts. If they did move there, it was usually for 2-5 years and then back out into the real world. It is a very expensive place to live and raise a family. It's no wonder why some of the cream never rose to the top.
Rated & Cheers!
Bubba -- I thought about that years later. If you survived, there'd be rewards later on. I just couldn't make it work. I also didn't the hunger to want the position so badly, I'd move heaven and earth to get it. Thanks for the kind words, sir. It means a lot to me.
Sheeps- I hope you realize that the CIA has a dossier on you now! Are you sure your phone (and email account!) isn't tapped? No more revolution talk with you!
You probably made the right choice - although I bet there's a lot of creativity involved in logistics for spies!
I think you're full of crap. I think you not only TOOK the job, but you STILL WORK FOR THEM.

Sort of like a hairy James Bond.

Very entertaining read. Sorry about scaring you at the Metro.
Ardee -- It's a very thin file folder.

Owl -- You're probably right.

Bill -- I didn't recognize you without the mustache.
Great story. We think creepy things about the CIA based on what we see in the movies and on tv.

We see the glamorous spies doing exciting things where money's no objest, so it's fascinating that the lack of pay was a major consideration in turning them down.

You've had an interesting life, anyway.
Crazy man crazy. That poor cab driver. He just had to pee, and as a tax payer, should have been able to use their bathroom. I can't imagine there were any state secrets in there, at least, yikes, I hope not.
That story was worth waiting for. The entire process sounds a little spooky.

Now, what about the person you kept seeing along the way? Another one there for interview/job offer, coincidentally being at the same spots, or what looks obvious - shadowing you?
Wonderfully interesting and entertaining. Eastern Airlines - there's a time reference.
Zuma -- every hierarchy has a top, middle and bottom. I'm not sure there any glamour job out there, unless it's the one we think we'd like to have. Hollywood does a great job glamourizing just about anything.

I've led an interesting life, just like that famous Chinese curse.

odette -- There was something fishy about that guy.

Suzn -- thanks for noticing him. I think it was a fellow interviewee, interviewing for some other position in the Agency. It did feel like I was being watched at the time.

Stim -- I'm hoping there's a mad dash to wiki or google Eastern Air Lines. thanks for noticing.
Great story, and I could hardly blame you for not taking the job. As for the what if's...fun to speculate on for a few minutes, but glad you are where you are and told us the story!
Maybe if you'd told them you'd spotted the guy following you they would have offered you something better.
Lord only knows what you'd have been arranging to procure and transport as part of CIA Logistics. I pretend this stuff is all just on TV and not real. Keeps me sane.

Rated.
Buffy -- I agree and thanks

M -- I think the testing has a lot to do with the placement. I'd like to know more about those tests and what they found out.

Verbal -- Who knows who and what they needed to move. I'm better off not knowing.
Should've walked up to the shadow guy, gave him one of those fake bifboombam karate chops, slipped off your shoe and started talking into it. When they came over to see what the heck was going on you could have been saying "Well Agent 99, I still have them believing I'm a private eye."
AKA -- no I saw what the FPS did to the cab driver.
In 2002 I was forced to take a government contracting course because I had a government credit card for IT purchases. I drove my government car to Washington and spent the week at a lovely hotel by the airport. There was a mandatory test Friday morning, then I was free to leave. I loaded all my computer equipment etc into my government car and took off for the nearest Barnes and Noble. I apparently made the left turn one block too soon. As soon as I realized, I pulled into the next drive to turn around. Once I was in the driveway, I realized that it was an unusual Y pattern that would make it difficult to turn without going down to the gated parking lot. I also saw that the gated parking lot was manned by a shotguy carrying person. So I drove my government car down, said hello, explained that I was lost, handed over all of my IDs and pulled over while they checked me out. Fifteen minutes and several questions later, I was given the ok to leave and the correct directions to Barnes and Noble.

I don't remember any sign on the building. The closest to the building I ever got had to be at least a quarter mile away. They seemed quite bemused by the fact that I was not afraid and read patiently while they checked my IDs. Lost is lost. I had a reasonable explanation, but I often wonder what would have happened if I had gotten flustered when I saw the shotgun and tried to turn in the Y - or if I had been afraid when questioned.
Trishhelen -- That was probably a wise thing to do. Besides you had a plausible explanation. It's an interesting story.
whew....I can breathe now! What a great story! I loved it all.
My friend's brother has been in the CIA for the last 20 years. He's pretty whacko now. Sure glad you didn't take it. We don't need a big ole whacko dog! shhhhh.... they may be listening....
note...second post ......I posted this a while ago and it dissappeared....they're watching..... aren't they?
fab -- I don't think you pose a threat to national security.
perhaps the post disappeared due to "flamingo error" ...but it really did, still kinda creepy, tee hee. And I COULD be a threat....
just like the cab driver...... yep..... that would be my kinda threat.
The best part of working for the government, you can do more than growl, you can actually bite!!

:)

Good stuff and rated!!!
If you had taken the gig, you probably wouldn't be here.

You'd be under an assumed name.

Man, surprised the gig didn't pay more.

A great story!!
this is a great story. thank you! kind of the inverse of that "took the road less traveled by" but i completely understand your decision. it would be cool to write a fiction piece about the what if...
i love learnign new things. i thought taht only the FBI was at langley, not the CIA. maybe they are both there or the FBI is somewhere else. all my info comes from tv, sadly. love lvoe lvoe and RATED.
Kuh-reepy! I've known people who worked there as contractors (not regular employees) and talked about the interview process a bit - they had to take a lie detector test. So you would have had even more fun if you'd signed up, maybe. They also said that much of what people do there is such a small part of a larger puzzle that you don't even know what it is you're working on. Of course, they probably segment work like that deliberately, as well, to keep things secret.
It's like a brush with death--you could have used it in the recent open call.
I got it now. We should call you "spook-dog". How could you turn down the Agency? Doesn't everybody want to be a spook?
awesome story...and yeah you have to wonder where your life would have taken you. I agree with your decision though Mr. Sheepdog.
I am a little afraid of them. I have nothing to hide, but I feel that they feel they should know ALL their employees' business. And you see how Valerie Plame was smeared by the Bush administration, and nothing was really done about it.
I loved your story.
oh, but the first thing I thought was: That cab driver was some kind of spy, too!

and if the guy from the hotel was shadowing you, he was either lousy at it or intended to be seen, right?

Fun story!
i read this and rated all 3 parts and loved it. No glamour. Just the facts, nothin' but the facts, but how can you beat them?
Ben -- I'm convinced he was another interviewee who staying at the same hotel with time to kill like me.