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DECEMBER 16, 2009 4:00PM

Dear Bank of America, You're fired!

Rate: 55 Flag

Bank of America recently paid off its TARP loans. I can't get a response to my issues at the bank so I am sending this letter the President of the division which handles my loan in the hope I get a response.

 

Please rate and comment if it adds value to you and anything you can to share with others I would appreciate. 

 

Mr. Brian T. Moynihan, President

Consumer and Small Business Banking

Bank of America

100 North Tryon Street
Charlotte, North Carolina 28255 

Telephone and Fax numbers unavailable

 

Dear Mr. Moynihan:

 

I was going to remain a customer of yours until actions taken by the bank forced me to reconsider. You leave me no choice but to terminate our relationship. I realize it’s the holiday season, but unfortunately, you simply don’t fit into my plans anymore. I’m sure there are other customers out there might want to deal with you, but I would recommend to them terminate the relationship with Bank of America and start a relationship with another institution.

 

It’s almost funny, because this was all in your control.  In October the Bank informed me that my fixed rated Gold Option Loan would be become a variable rate loan beginning on February first. I have had this loan for more than 24 months, was making regular payments and was bringing down the balance. The bank’s arbitrary and capricious actions can easily be characterized as usury, in the same way that a neighborhood loan shark would change his victim’s rates on a whim.

 

I must say that when I called in response to the October letter your staff did a great job trying put a positive spin on this communication telling me that if prime interest rates went down, my interest rate would go down under the new provisions. That’s fatuous, as no one expects the prime interest rate to drop. Ironic that in the course of drafting this letter I received a form letter from a Greg Davis, a Senior Vice President indicating that the bank had decided not to implement this variable rate plan and offered a tepid apology for any inconvenience. Well too little much too late.

 

Based on this bombshell in October, I decided to make plans to payoff this loan. I visited your on-line banking website and followed the prompts to chat on line live with a representative. After conducting a live on line chat session with you customer service representative, employee Nikolas, I asked explicit questions about the payoff of this loan. I’ve enclosed a copy of the web transcript for your review. My questions was, “what is the payoff amount? Is it $X,XXX or is there additional interest due?”

 

His response was, “The outstanding balance is $X,XXX. It includes all of the things.”

This was an explicit answer to an explicit question by a person in a customer service role representing the Bank of America. Based on this information I made an electronic payment for $ X,XXX on December 9, 2009.

 

I was extremely disappointed and distressed to learn that after my loan was balance was $0.00, you debited my bank account for an additional $500.00 on December 10, 2009 and in my December statement indicated I was being charged $200.21 for interest. I also have a credit balance of $299.79. I am irate about this.

 

I called your customer service number this on Monday, December 14th. I spoke to Elizabeth. She informed me that I was given “incorrect information” and I, in fact, owed an additional $200.21 in interest. She had no desire to review the transcript with me on the phone, nor was there anyway for me to fax my documentation for review. The interaction was unsatisfactory and I asked for the call to be escalated to manager.

 

No manager was available and I would have to wait and have a call returned. Let me say that having worked in Customer Service for most of my 35 year career, an escalated call means an immediate response to a customer. I placed a second call to the toll free number near the end of the business day and spoke with Tony. Tony, took a more rational approach in at least listening to my situation and offered to refund $75.00 of the $200.21 for my “time and trouble”. He also told that the person who interacted with me via chat should not have given me any payoff information and should have referred me to the toll free number which during our conversation I learned is the former MBNA facility in Belfast, Maine. Quite frankly poor employee performance and failure to follow procedures is not my problem. It is Bank of America’s problem. I told him his solution was not satisfactory, I still wished to speak to a manager. He said it usually took up to 3 days to return escalated calls. Three days, is simply outrageous and egregious. He did make a pledge to have a call returned to me today, preferably before 12 noon eastern time.

 

It is now 3:30 p.m. as I write this letter. Is it the policy of the Bank to fight a war of attrition with its customers? Ignore them and hope they go away? I visited your web site with the hope of getting a telephone number of your corporate headquarters in Charlotte, NC, to voice my concerns to management. There is none listed. I also couldn’t get a listing through directory assistance, either. Just a listing of toll free numbers to call centers staffed by people with the clerk mentality. This is a poor way to do business.

 

When I visited the website I read the Code of Ethics document which was revised in June 2009:

 “The following five values represent what we believe in as individuals andas a team, and how we aspire to interact with our customers, our shareholders,our communities and one another.Doing the Right ThingWe have the responsibility to do the right thing for our customers,shareholders, communities and one another.Trusting and TeamworkWe succeed together, taking collective responsibility for ourcustomers’ satisfaction.Inclusive MeritocracyWe care about one another, value one another’s differences, focus on resultsand strive to help all associates reach their full potential.WinningWe have a passion for achieving results and winning—for our customers,our shareholders, our communities and one another.LeadershipWe will be decisive leaders at every level, communicating our vision.” 

These are great principles with which I agree and endorse. Based on my experience, they don’t appear to be in practice in your organization. There is little or no interest in doing the right thing for me, your customer. There is no trust. I can’t believe anything any representative of your company says to me. There’s no interest in winning for this customer. You have lost this customer, forever. I don’t see any leadership, and I haven’t heard from any leadership. Perhaps you will speak for leadership in your response.

 

You will probably hear about this letter before you receive it in the mail. I am posting this on my blog at OpenSalon.com where I write under the pseudonym OEsheepdog. I am in hope that the editors of the blog will give this prominent positioning where thousands of readers will read this and judge for themselves what you have to offer as a financial institution.

 

I expect that the Bank of America will return the $500.00 to me. There is nothing to discuss and the documentation supports my case. I will also consider filing complaints in 3 different states, Maine, New York (where I work), and Connecticut (where I live). If necessary I will use the court system to recover these funds.

 

It’s possible the Bank of America may prevail. You will have received a lot of bad will advertising, and expend much energy and resources, financial and human to collect your $200.21. It’s time for you and the Bank of America to do the right thing. My contact information is below. If I do not receive a response within 24 hours receipt. I will take assume you have no interest in resolving this and I will take appropriate steps to recover my funds.

 

Sincerely,

 

CC:      Honorable Chris Dodd

            Honorable Joe Lieberman

            Honorable Barney Frank

            FDIC

            Honorable Timothy Geithner

            Honorable Andrew Cuomo

            Honorable Richard Morgenthau

            Honorable Janet Mills

           

           

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Wow. They royally screwed you. I am crossing my fingers that you get your money back. I will also be telling people to not use Bank of America.

Good luck to you.
I'm in Australia and I've heard a LOT about the Bank of America, none of it favourable.

Excellent job on the letter.
Good for you for following through!
That's total b.s. in the first place with them "changing" your loan.
Pfffft.
WooHoo! Great way to make a stand OE!
One thing that remains unclear to me is why they debited $500 when all they claim you owed was $200.21.

I had a similar experience with BofA, where they made a payment I did not authorize, with funds that were not in my account and then attempted to debit my account and collect the funds. Fortunately, they ended up spending their own money, not mine, but after a number of unsatisfactory interactions with their customer service department -- I was never afforded an opportunity to speak with management or leadership -- I told 'em to piss off. None of the big banks is worth a flip, but BofA may be the worst of the lot.
Bank of America (formerly the Bank of Italy) is possibly the most evil financial institution in existence. I tell everyone I know to STAY AWAY.
Good for you, OE. Do let us know how it works out.
Well done OE, well done.

and ::BUMP:: to keep it in the feed so it gets read, and read widely.
A "cc" to the "Honorable Joe Lieberman"?

Now that's a stretch...
Good for you, OE! Sorry that this happened to you, but good on ya for taking them to task. Of course they're paying back their TARP funds - they're screwing all their customers to get it.
MAGNIFICENT!! I am having deja vu and it is literally making my stomach turn.

SHAME ON BANK OF AMERICA!!!!

Fight, fight, fight!!!!!!!!
Credit Unions did not need a bailout.
They also don't fuck you over like two faced thugs.
Two faced, unregulated, rate changing, bonus paying, politician buying, financial terrorists.
I don't see any of that behavior from credit unions.
I urge everyone to drop relations with big banks permanently.
BOA is nothing but pure scum. They are making up charges and fees left and right. They be legal but they sure aren't legit and should be put in jail.
What an excellent thing to do. I am having a big problem with the makers of Vizio. My $1200.00 HDTV went Kaput 3 months after the one year warranty. I am willing to pay to get it fixed, as I was told it was only a $25.00 board inside. The problem: No one will do it. I'm stuck with this $1200.00 piece of crap. Next stop, a headline on OS. Thanks for the idea!
R~~
Good luck! I'd be a rich woman today most likely except for all of the nickel and diming I've experienced through such institutions as the Bank of America. Enough $500.00 taken out of your account and suddenly, you're not so well off anymore!
I'm behind you 150 percent. My mother recently left Bank of America – not for being fleeced like this, but for something equally ridiculous. Go get 'em!
Bank of America is complicit in the economic rape of America. I had a similar experience with WAMU before it became Chase. ~R~
@ Chuck - Mine was with WAMU, too! Ugly - it took me a YEAR to resolve!
Gwen -- they have a calculated method of dealing with customers Ignore them.
Natalie -- It is hubris with a capital H.
THIEVES!
This turns my stomach but I'm not one bit surprised OE.

Will look forward to reading the "results"
spotted -- the audacity when I called to complain they said I could write to Ken Lewis the outgoing CEO who will collect 53 million in retirement
I found this number online and called it. It's the number for Investor Relations. I'll PM you with what the customer service person told me (she was very nice and apologetic [which doesn't excuse BoA by any means]).

100 North Tryon Street, Suite 220
Charlotte, NC 28255
704-386-5681
I can put this on at least 3 other sites---this should be viral. . .
Good job, and Good luck!
I got the exact same letter! Then the following one that said never mind. Let me know how it goes. I have got rid of their cards but still owe more than I should. Someday I will be free. They are on the top of my list to pay off fast. Go get them!!!!
This "Honorable" thing is hilarious. There is nothing honorable about this system.
Rated.
First, depending on the terms of your loan, if it's fixed rate they can't just convert it at their whim - that is called "breach of contract".

Actually, never mind the "second". We fortunately don't have any accounts in any of the big banks anymore. Small town banks and CUs are more to our liking as they treat you right (after all, you actually KNOW them).

Keep hammering away at them, Andy. Threaten legal action if you can (and have to) because that will simply cost them more money than refunding you.
Of all of the greedy pricks currently out there in the banking world, Bank of America is the greediest prick of them all. Good for you for standing up for what's right.
My dad broke up with B of A in the early 70's...are they still around?
In honor of my dad, I should say: He walked into the local branch, asked to see the head of that branch, and told them exactly what he thought of their financial support of the Vietnam War.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/military/july-dec09/mcnamara_07-06.html
good on you, sheep. make 'em give it back. i've always always disliked BofA; they're the ultimate in impersonal, big-box, grubbing bankers. get 'em.
When my husband became unemployed, I called to try and set up a payment plan.
1.) I was told that because I had been making my payments, I did not qualify for one program.
2.) I was then told that because our income was too low, we did not qualify to have our montly payments reduced. YES that was not a typo - we did not make enough to have our payments reduced.

I told them to let me know when I owed them enough to qualify for some help. HA!
Fantastic letter, OE. Good luck and keep us posted.
Good luck and please update when something happens. Great letter!
Bankers will never be reasonable, because they don't care about you. All they care about is money. I attempt to come to a reasonable agreement with a couple of phone calls. When they won't agree, which is always, I simply don't pay them. Zero.
If we all had the guts, motivation and efficacy to do what you have done with BofA then banks would be more responsive as well as responsible. More of us need to fire our banks. The only reason I didn't "fire" WaMu was that Chase took them over. We did however reduce the total amounts of funds on deposit by 50%.
Good on you OE! I hope you prevail. Keep us posted.
Dear Mr. Sheep Dog, I am a representative of the Bank of America. We're sorry you had a bad experience with our customer service, usually our Bangladesh Call Center does a better job in handling these calls and the rep who told you such erronous information will be dealt with in a timely manner, aka, they will be shot.

Thank you for bringing this our attention. We are sorry to inform you though ,that a charge of $1,000 per bullet will have to be billed to you but we feel you will be fine with this and you seem to have some off shore accounts in the name of Harry Winston with approximately $12,000 in them each.

Please Mr. Sheep Dog, don't make threats, we are powerful bank, WE RULEZ U!!!

;)

Yeah, I love Bank of America, they keep calling me telling me I'm late on my mortgage, or make me think I am, and when return the phone calls, "oh, we just wanted to remind you, make that payment before the 15th!!"

Yeah, it's not even the end of this last month. But thanks.

Better than Country Wide though, they miskeyed a foreclosure and the sheriff was out to serve me the papers one time, I was like, WHA?

:-( I'll bring the baseball bat my friend and we'll go kick some bank hiney!!!!
OEsheepdog, best of luck with your ongoing efforts! I bet no one could find a post on the blogosphere talking about how much they love Bank of America.
Stepha-- Thanks.

Lonnie -- It must be tough on those overworked underpaid customer service reps who have to deal with the high volume of dissatisfied custoers.
Good for you, OES. I have NEVER had a manager call me back in this kind of system. Please post when you receive an answer.
Who let the dog out...Whoof! Whoof! Sic 'em boys!
Rated & Cheers!
Way to go OES!!!! This makes me smile because BoA is the agency the federal government uses/forces us to use as a credit agency! I thank my lucky stars I don't personally have to deal with this scum. My battle in with Verizon....
Right on, brother. Nail them good. My Mom always used to say, "The banker is not your friend." Nowadays he's your sworn enemy. Treat him that way. Keep us posted on the results.
I have written letters like this before.

May I suggest writing to the Office of the President of the United States? That has worked almost every time for me. Apparently, there is an office that solves problems in the name of the President. They seem to have power.

Needless to say, I am very glad I do not have any dealings with Bank of America.
Mazel Tov. Keep us posted, I'm with BofA too and I'm convinced they're robbing me somewhere, but I can't figure out how.
R
Good luck, OE. But remember, it's bonus time at BOA.
yes! Everyone should follow through. I had a roommate who was charged an over the limit fee which caused the account to be over the limit (it wasn't before the charge.) Trying to get them to refund the money was a circus, but in the end, they won and closed their account.

It's quite telling that the Giannini family are disgusted by BofA and think they are a scourge of America, destroying everything they built with their bank.
I rated this yesterday when I didn't really have time for a comment. I got a jacked up rate on my Macy's card this year. I called them and got a similar run around. They told me it was an across the board increase in the interest rate. I told them that there was an infinite market out there to get the generic things that they sell and that I wouldn't be shopping there anymore. By February I will have paid off that card, which I used to buy furniture, and I won't be using Macy's anymore. I'll miss them, but they shouldn't think we NEED to shop in their store anymore with internet sources for just about anything we could possibly want.

We refinanced our mortgage and now, our mortgage is held by Bank of America, even though we financed with a local bank. We just signed up to be able to pay online and I swear, there are days they charge you an extra fee to pay your mortgage online. It's unbelievable.
Customer service doesn't seem to exist anymore and the banks do not give a shit. Good luck and I hope you get your money back with interest.
Bravo and well done! Keep us posted.
Bravo! Stick it to 'em!

When I lived in NH, I thought that Fleet Bank was the most evil corporate entity in the banking universe. BofA has solidly won that title. I hope that you're able to get some kind of positive resolution to this ludicrous situation.
This is beyond infuriating. I will remember never to have any dealings with BOA. Keep us posted on this!
Good for you. Please keep us posted. Do you want us to email them about this?
I got the same sort of letters changing the rate which scared me and then the tepid "we changed our mind" -- which was a relief. Can they change their mind again ;0)
Fantastic! I love a good letter of complaint (it has been said, and is true, "The Pen is Mightier Than the Sword [whatever that 'sword' might be]" (addition is mine) and smart to make a posting on here to make sure we all see what a bunch of jerks run Bank of America. Well written, comprehensive, and courteous. They don't deserve you as a customer.
They will probably charge you for the time they spent listening to your complaint.
Wow. Now THAT'S a letter. It's great that you told them about posting it first on Open Salon. Nice touch! Give us an update.
I called them when they raised my interest rate to give them an opportunity to back down. They didn't. It's over, B of A.