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JUNE 1, 2010 12:51PM

Inside the Numbers: The Prolific Bloggers of Open Salon

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My first humble post at Open Salon was in January 0f 2009. That post was assigned the number 89,102. My post this morning on the movie Letters to Juliet  was number 626,233. What that means is that there have been 537,131 posts published on OS since January of '09 and my post this morning.

To say that is a lot of posts is an understatement. I posted yesterday morning and again this morning. In that brief span of time there was one thousand four hundred and three posts between my two posts.

Wondering why you might not be getting lots of comments or EPs are few and far between? Think of the sheer volume of posts going through the feed. It's amazing. Absolutely astounding and mind boggling. It used to be easier to follow some of my favorites; now I can be gone for couple of hours and miss their most recent posts just by the sheer volume of new post that were published in such a short period of time.

I don;t know if this mean there are more writers than readers, but from a content perspective, it's a lot of content.

Yes , I know we have spammers, bots, etc., nonetheless it seems as if Open Salon has grown exponentially. Perhaps for some who have been here for awhile, the OS world seems so much more crowded. Less like the old days or beta days.

There's such a tremendous amount of talent here, and it is increasingly hard to keep up with everyone's work. I apologize for missing out on some of your gems.  I know I've missed more than a few.

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It means you had better have one heck of a clever avatar and catchy headline or you will get passed by.
It means 200,000 are kitty spam, the rest are rare talent in the blooming. It is a bigger swimming pool in 2010 - that's what was planned wasn't it? I wonder if the betas thought it would always be a kiddy pool? many seem to have taken their floaties and gone elsewhere based on my review of the posts of 2008. Too bad they didn't learn to think big, swim big, and develop an audience that might eventually morph into an appeal to the masses. That's what keeps most of us writing - hope that there is a wider audience for our thoughts than just ourselves.
OES, I hope that the volume encourages the site owners to develop this resource more. I find it somewhat amazing that the business model is somewhat 9-5 and Monday through Friday. I know that expenses may limit the speed of development but this is the internet. And hopefully, this site is more than just for an American audience.

Further to your comments, the sheer volume makes me appreciate the people who follow my "stuff" and are encouraging. It nice to know that the work is not disappearing into the void of the internet. The diversity of the articles from writers on Open Salon never fails to astonish and inform.

Take care, OES!
ocular -- I seem to have done ok by the Avatar, and I'm batting about .260 on the catchy headlines.

GA -- I don't know what is real and what is "spam" it's just a lot of water through the pipe. People come here for different reasons, and stay or leave at their pleasure. It's unique for an unmoderated site, and the fact that it's "open" comes with its blessings and curses. Thanks for the comment.

Noggie -- Thank you for the very kind words. I'd be curious to understand the business model for this site, but it's proprietary and I feel like were reaping the benefits of a well off uncle.

I hope the plug never gets pulled.
Well! I've been waiting for this explanation for nearly a month now. That's how long it's been since you failed to comment on my post of back then. In fact it's been so long I've forgotten which post is was, but I haven't forgotten that you - yes, you - passed it up. Now I'm thinking maybe I overreacted in setting up the grudge, that you meant to read it but that it just slipped on by. But, jeez, I do hate to give up a good sulk so easily...
Trouble with the rate button - trying it again...
well, ocular & Gabby's posts make me feel like I must be a spam kitty...my comment totals seem to keep going down, and I favourite folks just before they vanish into the ether... Catherine- you may be next.
I think it's a pretty unique place.It's getting big, and that's ok. I'm noticing a trend towards more journaling, personal narrative, but I'm also trending that way!
Right now my inbox has 280 PM's - some of that is because I like to keep PM's when I have had an interesting back and forth with someone, some of it is people whom I have encouraged to drop me a line when they post. I have a lot of catching up to do!I work from home and can doodle away here - I'm always curious about us 24/7 OS'ers and people who actually GO to a job, raise children, care for aging parents and STILL manage to whip out great writing!
The stats are always fascinating to me; I don't know how to keep track. How did you figure this out?
I agree with the rich uncle analogy - it's free and open and not moderated and people are, in general, pretty nice! You are one of the nicest.
Lisa -- I hear what you are saying. Hang in there.

Matt - Your tolerance of your fellow man impresses me. I am an imperfect sheepdog. ::hangs head in shame::

Brian -- Sounds like you have the reverse Midas touch. NOT.
aim -- Each post generate a url with a number. You'll see that number on the email you receive from OS that you've had a comment posted on your blog. If you go to manage posts and hover over the post and right click and select properties you'll find the number assigned to the url. That's how I did the arithmetic for this post.

Thanks for your kind words.
I can't keep up. I try, but it's on and on and on. If anyone can keep up this pace everyday, I'll preach at their funeral!
I am grateful to have my little corner in the grand sand box of OS...I hope the plug is never pulled. xox
Believe me, beta days are ahead.
I guess it means I should be more amazed when I get an EP or a cover or when hits for a post cross the 100 mark. I started on December 31, '09 and just in that amount of time, the traffic seems to have increased. -r
I think most people on here are adults (most). I was on facebook and found it annoying to have teens wanting to friend me before I had my bio done or any pics up.
I know some people complain that OS isn't keeping up or something, but I like it.
I have definitely noticed. It seems so overwhelming. Now, when I hit publish, it seems more like tossing a message in a bottle into the ocean whereas before, I had an almost immediate reaction.

I do miss the old days. But what does this say about next year?
Scanner -- I hear ya.

Robin -- you have a cool niche carved out here. xox

Leon -- Are you filling in for Blumenthal while he's away.

Densie -- Maybe you're the reason traffic has increased.

Thumbs -- Most everyone is an adult here. There are a few teen writers that are quite good. Average Jane comes to mind.
Duane -- I'm sorry I miss some of your posts, because I do. It's always a treat to see how you make a new banner to go with the subject matter of your posts.
One thing I am frustrated with is the ad that is appearing on my blog. I have never allowed adsense - I have gone to my settings and changed it again, twice, to not allow ads. If I HAVE to allow ads, I guess I want to be informed? PM me with any advice about this...
It scares me, this invasion of other writers! Then it makes me think, I better get to polishing my prose because I still want readers!
i must say OE it's become very disheartening if you come from the early days on OS when there was so little competition. I too have pretty much aligned myself with a few old hands and the occasional foray when a newcomer grabs my interest. it changes the entire rules of the game and I'm not sure "you make the headlines" is that appropriate any longer. I haven't had a piece recommend in over a year and they don't give a shit. it seems like the more innocuous a post is the more "they" like it and serious writers are best off elsewhere. In my case, I can't pull off writing only for the sake of readers and I don't know how to post photos of tits and ass and abhor gossip.
I am so pleased with OS because people actually read me here and comment. I, like many of you, have other blog locales where I am lucky if 20 people tune in to the feed to read a current post...Oh, make that 19 because one of them is my Mom. Here it can be up to 150-300 every time! A bunch of you are commenters but the vast majority seem to be people who just read. I have never had a EP or a story on the cover, but if I do, that's an extra pickle on the sandwich. I have spent whole DAYS reading my faves and commenting, and it frustrates me not to see every single syllable they produce, but the feed is exponetially fast and I need to get out of my chair and live the life I'm posting about so I know there is understanding when I am not around for a bit. I am content and inspired. A good combination.
Dog,
I think that was taken the wrong way. I should have used mature instead of adult.
I am constantly lost, constantly falling behind in reading and commenting on my favorite authors posts, and I almost always feel guilty for the amount of time I do spend here, as well as the time I don't!
I think it is impossible to keep up with favorites and explore new writers and to blog as much as I would like. There are so many excellent writers here it is impossible to keep up. I like the idea I have seen suggested of putting up "previous" posts on particular days to give people like me a chance to catch the things they've missed.
I means I am right proud of getting even two rates!!!! for real!
Sheepie, it's frustrating. Personally, I love having more readers. And I love reading what they post. But there are only so many hours in the day, and I have a too-neglected wife glaring at me. When time is short, I have to be real selective in what I read and I know I'm missing a lot of great stuff, and it makes me feel very guilty.
aim -- you don't have a "say" about ads. Since we're here for "free" we have to share the space we are given with advertisers. That's the price we "pay" for admission.

mypsyche -- I always thought I was a mediocre writer. All these new and talented people now validate it for me ;).

ben sen -- This is conundrum of success if success is having more traffic. I know you have a loyal following. Please keep writing.

Linnnn -- Bill S. who recently left the OS scene had a great line about OS: "I get read here!" Got what you are saying.

Thumbs -- I get it know...my bad, as I read the meaning different from your intent. Thanks for clarifying.

Doug -- it is overwhelming. Remember that guilt is the gift that keeps on giving.

Dear Reader -- Plus you have the time change to contend with too.

Stellaa -- I love your candor.

Zinnia -- you've been here forever, too!
Not sure why all this consternation about how it used to be. I have been a blogger since last summer but lurked and read and not commented for months before that. I see the same type of groups, people who like news, diary type blogs, poetry, and artwork, who mainly stay with the same writers. Branching out could be an answer. Plenty to look at.
OEsheepdog, the number of posts has slightly more than doubled from August 23, 2009 when I posted the following story: "OSX: Closing in on 300,000 posts on Open Salon." I expect even less time to be involved to add another 300,000 posts from today. Those OS servers must be close to hitting some very high temperatures from all of the constant activity! I hope the air conditioning in the server room is cranked up!

I have found it hard to keep up with all of the great talent here since the site came out of beta and the numbers starting growing by leaps and bounds in the summer of '08!
There are a lot of rabid writers out there needing a forum such as this. Me included.
It makes me feel privileged that you have the time to stop and visit my pages once in a while - many are the days that I feel like my writing is the proverbial tree falling in the forest, with nobody to hear it.
a few words in some of the comments stuck out. *"Competition" - 'sposed to be good for consumers . . . *"don't give a shit", good advice- write for yourself and the EPs will come (or not but who gives a shit right . . . RIGHT? -smile-) *"american audience" try using a stat tracker to check your posts and you'll be a amazed at how many outside of OS and outside the US actually are reading you. Not my idea- see this older post from artsfish, “Is anyone out there” : http://open.salon.com/blog/artsfish/2008/12/20/stats_on_your_os_posts_or_hello_is_anyone_out_there - you'll also be shocked at how much info is gathered , you can be your own 'little brother' have fun
I have many comments around this issue but I already blogged about my frustrations. I think as OS has grown, perhaps the site hasn't caought up. Look at the empty space on either side of the screen. And the cover is never full to the bottom. There could be a lot done with this site to bring writers to the readers attention. There will be, and are, writers that are EP's as a matter of course, regardless of the regurgitated drivel they write. Those are boring and I steer clear. In the last few days I have been systematically reading a favoriting people I like so I don't have to go to the cover. Despite what some people feel they need to defend (those who make covers are the loudest protesters of my opinion), it seems OS is morphing into a sensationalistic new site, like so many. I'm slowly creating the community of writers I wanted this site to be. If five people read it and five people comment, that's the conversation started I want to see!
thanks for putting that up. wow
Means more posts about cheap sex in cheap hotels with Tipper Gore will be hitting the wire from someone named Tink!! ;D

Seriously, it's tough to be seen around here lately, especially for the newbies who don't have a following yet, when I came on here a year and over a half ago, it was easier to be seen, different crowd, you had the late night krew, we would throw new writers at each other, like GO SEE THEM....that hasn't really changed, but it's tougher to find these new gems in the pile that gets heaped on.

That's also the number one reason why I still support blog whoring, especially other folks we discover. I don't get out into the Flow too much around here, so I know I definitely miss old and new posts left and right.
Keeping up with old faves and finding new talent has become difficult at best. More and more I'm relying on my reliable favorites' updates feed to clue me into the hot, new writers.
Cranky -- You can't neglect your wife. Ever

Rita -- Just relaying what I've read about the so called good old days. Not my sentiments.

John -- Yeah it's a lot of growth,

JC -- Rabid? Rabies? Really? Not so. Keep writing.
Please.

Andy -- Sometime I see your posts or someone comments on it in the feed, it's a crap shoot.
I think you need to be extra thoughtful when it comes to a title, have some content to back it, be selective about WHEN you post, and try to not to become too frustrated when something that you think is important or into which you put a lot of work, goes virtually unnoticed. When you DO succeed, it's truly cause to celebrate.
OES, it would seem there's more to this site than meets the average eye. I love it when OS gets a clearly described update of its many assets/changes! A new member's one choice can be to wait till someone like you gives them an honest interpretation of the workings here. Perhaps there is a new set of rulings due to this enormous influx you outline. Hope we can learn from you again this way. And thank you.
Thanks for doing the math for me. I am terrible at it.
I've noticed a lot of people posting and I'm falling waaaayyyy behind on my reading, and I started my vacation!
Oh, well. Got to read faster, I guess.
Coming in late in the game I feel like I've missed a lot of fun. On the other hand I can't keep up with everybody I like to read. I feel like Jerry Maguire. I'm about to get fired from OS for saying out loud that I need fewer clients, more personal attention.

Or maybe I should just quit my job?
To me I am unable to keep up with my favorites and feel "out of it." When I went back to full time work last December I could not post more than once a day, and its just hard to keep up. It makes me sad, but that's progress I guess. R.
Wow, that's pretty staggering. I'm feeling insignificant again. The Internet is a steaming cesspool at times. Other times, it verges on the brilliant. With all of those numbers, though, it seems like there's a core group of about 200 - 300 of us. Roughly.
That's a lot of posts, Sheepdog. I know how you feel about missing people's writings. It's almost overwhelming. It also means that the free bookstore is expanding and gosh knows our world needs bigger bookstores instead of oil rigs.
I am drowning in posts.....Hmm, music.....of the sirens
Aren't some of the posts now some strange robotic artefact? I can't be the only one who has seen things that look like tweets and other things that are obviously ads in the form of posts--and there are those odd entirely recycled posts. I pass over some things on the feed. And I do have people on here I ignore for the most part--while Tink rules!
I just joined OS lurking for several months before hand. I initially joined because I wanted to be able to rate and comment. There are many good writers here and I enjoy the reading.

I finally decided to begin posting...I'm very excited to have an outlet, but there is an awful lot of competition here. It is very intimidating...you really need to write well in order to hold your head high around here.

I think OS is Cool. A great place to read people's musings, write your own, and to interact with the audience. The numbers you indicated are exciting and I hope to continue watching the number of comments on my posts grow with my progress.
RC -- Great comment. Thank you.

Leslie -- Every one can find a niche here. The cover is there to get the widest audience.

Don -- You're welcome.

Tink -- I used to read you for the tags, now I read you for the posts. Mazel Tov!

Stim -- It's like having the keys to a candy store. Lots and lots of candy.

Jeff -- Wise words indeed. Thanks.

PWRD -- I don't claim to be an expert. I'm just reporting on what I've observed. The growth has been unbelievable.

Vanessa -- Trying to catch up on reading at OS is like drinking from a firehose.

Tricia -- I have to find a balance between OS and the rest of my life like so many others.

BS -- It is hard unless your here 24/7...I can't recommend that.

Beth -- There's an OS urban legend is that there are actually 4 people who under a multitude of pseudonyms. You are not insignificant. I like your posts.

Amanda -- OS is like a virtual Library of Congress.

Gary -- Yes the sirens...
Nola -- I didn't measure the quality, just reporting on the volume. There's a whole bunch of stuff I miss, precisely because I don't have the time.

GreenMT -- Thanks for commenting, but please start writing.
Thanks for putting together the stats. I haven't added much to them as I post only every couple of weeks or so. But I know what you and several others mean about not being able to keep up. There's no way I could even give a glance to as many as a quarter of the daily posts.

I guess I'm like many others - read some old favorites, check out new pieces if it's a catchy title on an ineresting subject, check out some of the higher rated etc.

I comment more than post but I've noticed that an increasing number of posters don't reply to comments. Maybe it's the volumes, I don't really know. But in a couple of cases I've started skipping commenting and sometimes reading. If the comments aren't worth a response, why bother making them?

For now it's an enjoyable pastime. I've never written much before so it's been fun trying to acquire or brush up on the skills.
I am glad YOU did the math, Sheepdog! It's not my forte, that's for sure. I have been curious as to the numbers of this site.

I joined last fall, but my last job had me killing myself--about 70 hours a week. Unemployment has given me precious time to write and post a few times a week here. I love finding new stuff all the time, but I do find myself drawn to a few people in particular.

As for getting EPs, I was floored to get two and both of them about being unemployed. My last EP has seen almost 9,000 readers as of this writing. I don't mind banging my own drum. I tweet, Facebook, Stumble, Digg, etc. so that I can get the word out. I do it for myself (as a writer who wants to get noticed and hopefully some writing deals, self-promotion is necessary). I also do it to bring others to OS so that my new community gets some notice, too.

I think OS will probably continue to grow because it's a great forum for writers and anyone can do it. And it's fun!
The site hasn't kept up with the increase in activity. So much flows through the feed it gets lost. Last I checked the search functions didn't work well. So I find it harder to get read and to find interesting stuff than when there were fewer posts.

There's plenty of technology out there that can help the user find interesting stuff, without needing an editor. How about a "others who rated this post also rated . . ."

But ultimately, if your post flows through the feed at lightening speed, you don't get read and you don't get rated.
I find that OS is a tremendous medium for creative writing; if it were not for OS, I would not have published my first book. OS forced me to clean up my act, because others were reading and reacting. I don't really care if two or thrfee or ten respond--the responsives are invariably intelligent--except for the bots and ads and such...
Lady H -- It is overwhelming.

Abrawang -- Responding to comments is uneven to say the least. But the sheer volume of posts is hard to keep up with.

Token -- No doubt you've looked at this more deeply than I did. I just thought the sheer volume prevents us from looking at the really good pieces because there is so much noise. It's not my job to be the OS editor. I don't want the job.

I do see some of favorites passing along a link or two on a new blogger so that's one way to enhance the readers' experience here. Thanks for the thoughtful comments.

Kat -- All good points, especially the "fun" part.

Malusinka -- Your last sentence speaks volumes. Even a most recent favorites tab on the cover page would help you go back and find stuff you missed.

Patrick -- This is quite a testament when the odds of getting published are indeed difficult. Thanks for sharing your experience and success here.
Sheepdog,
I like your schtick, and I really like your avatar, so don't take this personally. But, in practical terms, what the information means is that bloggers will strain themselves even more to appease the masses (that is, dole out excessive flattery, resist stating the unpopular, strive to stay hip to the OS soup du jour, and generally kiss a whole lot of ass--not that there is anything wrong with that!) Others will see the futility of endlessly spinning on the hamster wheel and stop (if only some clever engineer could hook up a gadget to harness the energy that creates, we could power a small part of the world with it--a very small part of the world).
Great post and comments. Nothing to add. Rated
The numbers are interesting.
As for me, I have had a need to write something once a day long before I joined OS in January, '10 (I think). I try hard (i know almost all here try hard) not to post anything that I don't love, even if in a small way. I admit to waking at 3 with a fear that I'll heve nothing to write, to comment on, seriously or with humor. This happens a lot.
R,
I like the bot that says "Hurry your mouse across it's pad if you like these prices" on Ed Hardy whatevers.
The forgive-the-word synergy is oo perfect: i am on a quest to make a post of a comment on every one of my favorites.
In this compact report you resonate much of what I have discovered: OS is enormous and enormously good. It is at once many things: a familiar place for good writers, a nurturing environment for new ones, a social community, a formal eZine, an writer extension (AAA team?) for Salon proper, a meet n greet/potluck. No one person defines it (though some try) and no one sets rules for what is or is not proper writing (though some try) .
Thus big thing I have discovered: it is like the marrow of the world,, It is international and seamlessly intimate, personal. It is a pure-d wonderment.

And the interface needs to be changed to meet the needs. We need accordions and auto tabs, and we need to each make our own choices about what modules and tools we want on our blogs, and the content therein. The stage should stay in place, sacrosanct. All that surrounds it should be customizable.
That IS a lot of content.

I think those of us who were here in the beta days experienced a lot of change. There was a realization at the time that Open Salon would change dramatically once it exploded. What caught many of us by surprise is that readership seemed to actually decrease as Open Salon grew, instead of growing or at least staying level. Part of it was because it wasn't easy for readers to keep up. The feed and the "favorites" are inadequate tools.

Maybe that's because some of us weren't producing stuff worthy of being read. It's possible. But regardless of the reason, if you're used to a post generating 20 plus comments and then your posts are lucky to get 2, you wonder if it is still worth your time to write anything.
It means I'm alternately encouraged, overwhelmed, exhilarated and exhausted. This week it's unfortunately the latter. But that may be because I have the flu and can't even get through my mail...

It also means we're onto something at OS -- something I'm happy to be part of...
I just began at OS in February 2010. I am sometimes overwhelmed with what to read. I have a slew of favorites and I try to look at all of them, I try to read the EP and I like to see who is popping up in new posts. I find myself always feeling overwhelmed. I have cut back the time on OS because I have had birthdays, graduations, laundry, life interfering. I am grateful for the reading material and there are certain writers that I actually feel most comfortable with so I try to read them even when I am short on time. I wish their was a system to get email alerts when they post automatically, I also wish there was a way we could see all of our comments, so I can back track more professionally if I want to check for additional comments. I mentioned that to Judy in the beginning. I also learned that some writers get paid for their posts on OS and wondered how that works, if they are professionals in some way or what. All of this has been a great experience for me. I love to read and I enjoy posting. I feel like I am getting a bit better at something I really love. R
Speaking as a newbie, it is very difficult to get anyone to read your posts, regardless of quality. The content on OS is so diverse and plentiful you could read for months on end and never read the same blogger twice.

I appreciate OS. It gives me an outlet for the words tumbling from my pencil and the emotions from my heart. Whether I get read or not, noticed or not, I will continue to write. After all, the writing is my true pleasure...