Get It Right? Baby Boomers Responsible For This Mess Now
" Damn kids........! said at least once during the day somewhere in the United States by many.
I have been reading much over the last few days about the state of the union ( USA ) which till recently was only given once a year by the President of the United States and usually entailed silly people standing up and clapping forever ( several times ) while listening to the President actually tell us nothing. I know they weren't clapping at the speech. But I (o/e) will tell you what is really going on. Smoke it if you got one.
The problems we face today has all been caused by B-A-B-Y B-O-O-M-E-R-S, I am one that is how I know. Baby Boomers have been defined by whoever makes this shit up, as people born between 1946-1964. I define them as people born between 1946- 1970. Because 1970 was when the young people at the time were either going to Vietnam ( drafted ) or trying to get out of going there or stoned or both. Everyone after 1970 became Generation X 'rs. Another new term of definition where they didn't have a catchy phrase so that stuck. If you were born in 1970 you are now forty unless you were born in the last 7 days.
There are exceptions to the above time line, my wife who has been 36 for the last 14 years is GenX. That is going to be a painful joke later. If you look now who is running everything in this country they are GenX people. There are a few hanger on BB's like ( shit Dick Cheney, and......) well not many. Bet you are now wondering how I could make a conclusion like this? Baby Boomers were brought up differently way back when. We had parents who most lived during the depression and WW2 and were given values and a hard work ethic to become better. They went to schools that actually educated you in everything that in some way would improve your life. They had families and jobs, mother's would put off furthering their careers to raise children. You were given the same opportunities as they had young only better, more improved. You got married and started a family, then as the time line became closer to 1964- 1970 things changed. The marriage rate changed, the birth rates changed. The United States was changing. Our attitudes changed, technology rapidly changed.
So we had new people on the block after Vietnam. People like me and others who came back entered in the mainstream and got job's or went back to school to finish their interupted time before. People who graduated from school and college's and became our now changing workforce. We wanted what our parents had but we went about getting it in different ways, with different attitudes. Some started families others chose to wait. Marriage became let's live together first and get ahead ourselves. We were independent men and women. Church and faith to some became backseat I'll talk to you when I'm available. Television programming changed from family oriented to tabloid extreme. News became mindless chatter. Our children now were not afforded what we had growing up. Both parents worked now to have more to maintain a lifestyle. Teachers became babysitters instead of educators. Government became larger and bloated with overlapping functions......I can't take it anymore!!!!. Sorry got excited there.
My first wife and I were married in the early eighties, we both had good paying careers, lived very nice. We had our first daughter in 1989 and our second in 1995. We divorced in 1999. The baby boomers in us produced our Generation X who now are running the country and wondering what went wrong. Except for the few who have taken advantage of our mistakes and miguided intentions and will continue to do so until the system we broke is fixed. Blaming it on Democrats or Republicans or aliens from Wal-Mart is misguided and plain continued recklessness. Everybody has responsibility for it and we all better figure out how to fix it. What's that saying, " you can't fix stupid." We better start thinking about that. Good Day.......older/exasperated 2011


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you hit the damn nail right in the center of the head.
We screwed up. We should be the ones who fix it.
Yet we only try to pass the blame elsewhere.
We have seen the enemy and he is us.....
I'm afraid my bottom line is that I *still* don't trust anyone over 30. Well, with one exception, of course. I'm sure you know who and why.
tomreed: You sound just as confusing as me. But you make valid points on some things. This is what happens everyday in the US people explaining why someone else did this to cause this. I was in Afghanistan and Iraq and Iran when the Shah went down also. Working. Thanks o/e
noah: I heard that, but they know who is? o/e
DrS: You redneck! Like the percentage points they always make comments valid it seems. I just get tired of hearing people complaining about everything and doing nothing. I asked my youngest daughter something like, " what are you going to do when you get older and something goes wrong?" she said, "blame it on you".......thanks my friend....o/e
Scanner: Mine are a little different they grew up in hillbilly country, the younger one though I don't know about her. See above to the DR. Makes you wonder who will be thinking. Thanks
Bo: you believe that shit, I wrote half this on the jet. Yes I know who you mean and I got the same thing. Sometimes it's trust nobody but yourself. Michelle is probably going to thump me good if she reads the 3rd paragraph start. I know where I'm going if shit fails here in the US. older/e.........see ya thanks.
But my sister and her friends wanted to be stockbrokers, and it was the Greed is good generation. I'd say the two generations teamed up and the BB's cynicism and GiG's mendacity made our lovely mess.
From the Midwest:It's beyond me also how it got an EP this is my second in 3 years. Most of my posts are filled with disinformation, so I don't give a crap if you rate it or not. But thank you for taking the time to offer your opinion and your wasted time viewing it. o/e oh and hitting the comment button 3 times to get your point across.
Arde: Yes the BB's are training the next generation well...not really just better at it for a bit. Thank you...o/e
Lyn: Yes I gave up on my new cell phone 10 minutes after I got it. But as we age also things change much faster than we would like to accept or learn. Be well.......o/e
Good Post -r-
Trig: Dammit the ed-i-tors flushed me out, WTF. Hope you are doing well my friend. Thanks......o/e S}
Gen X is going to have to do the heavy lifting, and they still don't run things, because when you look at the faces on TV, they don't change much, which means Boomers.
As a different note, and I liked your post, generations might be better, since people think that way, which means there are two Boomers, sixties versus seventies Boomers, and then Gen X had the eighties as their formative years.
Congrats on the EP!!
I didn't catch the Cheney reference. Born in 1941, he is not a boomer. And he's too late for the Greatest Generation. Kind of in between like he was as VP; neither legislative nor executive, depending on which prosecutor was asking.
Speaking as a boomer, you should give us credit for promoting and supporting a raft of minority and individual liberation achievements. Women's lib benefited from a mix of promotion and acceptance with relatively little outright opposition. In practise of course there's still a way to go.
Overt racism has declined and in most sectors it's no big deal to work alongside, live as neighbors or intermarry with a visible minority. Still a fair ways to go and there probably will be a few generations from now. But compared to the world we came to know in the 50s, the improvements are considerable.
Acceptance of gays, bis, TGs etc is worlds away from what it was. Again, a mix of promotion, acceptance and relatively little concerted opposition from my generation.
Where we've failed is daunting. In the public sphere you can't discuss tax levels sensibly. Complaining that they're too high and they're job killers that need to be cut is the only acceptable discourse.
Global warming. This will be seen as our biggest failure. Many of us accept what the vast majority of scientists believe but we haven't done anything significant to diminish, let alone reverse, our causal actions. And we've done a piss poor job of articulating the issue.
The divide between rich and poor. Another failure. Many of us have let ourselves be brainwashed by attack ads, Faux News and its ilk, and rabble-rousing pols and their bumper-sticker slogans who diminish political discourse by impugning the character and patriotism of those who seek a fairer society.
And let's see how the boomers are regarding as we start scarfing the pension fund and hogging medical resources.
We were the best of generations, we were the worst of generations. In short, we were very much like the present one.
This is a rant.
A major source of the SS and Medicare problem in our economy is that there are ~ 60,000,000 Baby Boomers and only ~ 40,000,000 Gen-Xers. But, the problem is worse than that. Self absorbed DINKs (double income no kids) lived like the party would go on forever and many didn't save. And, as you point out, that is only the economic part of the mess we've left.
Devision amoungst the Boomers is evident I think, from these scattered replies. As interesting as the post itself.
One of the biggest problem in America is that we pay far to little attention to what is going on around us and far too much attention to our own personal wants and needs. By not paying attention to our politics to the degree that other countries do, we've managed to let all the wrong people do the bidding for us.
We decide who to vote for on 20 second ads that are peppered with lies and deception rather than checking the facts. We are an emotional people, but that should be checked at the voting booth. I don't know if the next generation of leaders or voters will do any better. My guess is that history will not look on us very fondly when they realize the amount of resources we squandered looking after our personal needs while allowing the rest of the world go to hell.
WHAT? A farmer? A cattle ranch? Recipient of how many farmer-subsidized program$$$$.
It's obvious you like to assume and to generalize....but, sorry, just because you had 600+ viewers does NOT meant they agree with you. Not at all.
We are where we are because of a confluence of forces that created a perfect storm.
(1) The rise of the corporation and the accompanying consumerism
(2) The invention of television and it's usurpation by advertisers
(3) The end of cheap energy
(4) The Military-Industrial Complex
(5) The decline of education
All that has combined to create a perfect storm that has undermined civil society and is now beginning to disturb even the climate and the cosmos.
Is there a way around this perfect storm? Not as far as I can see. We are doomed to go thru it. Batten down the hatches.
Michael: Yes it is. Maybe just the thoughts will jump start something I do not know. Thanks.....o/e
Just Cathy: How are ya. Kinda makes the wander a little huh. Yes my wife is a nurse so she takes care of me more. But she doesn't look 50 at all. Thanks.....older
FTMidwest: My it's good to here from you. I think you misread back there I said 6+ to look at themselves and think. See it worked on you. You keep thinking about it enough to come back. Oh yes I have a farm in the Ozarks and raise beef cattle usually 30-80 head, 1 Bull 6 calves. I do not get subsidies. But I am retired and a Disabled Veteran and get subsidies from them in the form of pension. I have 6 dogs also. Anything else? Thank you again for stopping in. older
Tom Cordle. Yes it was meant to be vague Tom. Your points I read and know very well and your right. Just say this was a mind exercise to get people do think out of the box for themselves. Thank you for dropping in it always a pleasure sir. older/exsperated
"It's just amazing how long this country's been going to hell without ever actually having gotten there."
And over on the other side of the pond, you've got his more-or-less contemporary Viktor Frankl on the idea of collective guilt:
"But I start on the ground that guilt is, a priori, personal guilt. I can be judged guilty only for something I have missed, failed to do. But in no way can I be regarded as guilty for something an uncle of mine has done, or a grandmother of mine has done. This is 100 percent nonsense!"
(I'm at the tail end of Gen X here and I agree with both of them. People have always been bitching and moaning about how it's just not like the good old days, and there are good and bad folks of EVERY generation.)
That being said, I decided long ago I can't do anything about US, I can only be the best ME, I can be, and that is enough. So I will dedicate whatever years I have left to being debt free, and working on improving our environment, while promoting equality every chance I get.
As to the great wealth divide, I see it as a festuring sore that may eventually develop into revolution.