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OCTOBER 14, 2009 10:37AM

Is Jesus Too Liberal for the Conservatives?!

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What the "hell" is going on? Is Jesus too liberal for the conservatives?!
 
Perhaps I should have done more research on this topic before I posted, but the more I read, the higher my blood pressure rises. (Not really, but I do get angry....and I don't want to feel that way.) From what I've heard and read so far, the Conservatives are not only rewriting history, changing politics, trying to pull the country apart, they're now attempting to rewrite the Bible....one of the oldest and most famous books known to mankind! Why? They think it's too liberal! Isn't that asinine?
 
How much are they going to rewrite? Both the Old Testament and the New Testament? How about the Ten Commandments which have been a decent code of conduct for quite a few years for most of mankind? I have a feeling the Beatitudes are really in for it. I mean look at them:
 
                                        
THE EIGHT BEATITUDES OF JESUS

"Blessed are the poor in spirit,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

Blessed are they who mourn,
for they shall be comforted.

Blessed are the meek,
for they shall inherit the earth.

Blessed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall be satisfied.

Blessed are the merciful,
for they shall obtain mercy.

Blessed are the pure of heart,
for they shall see God.

Blessed are the peacemakers,
for they shall be called children of God.

Blessed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven."

For some reason, I have a feeling that Beatitude numbers one and three will undergo editing and rewriting big time considering the conservatives  seem to be against the poor and they certainly aren't meek.

 

My question is: How Christian are these Conservative Fundamentalists? If they can't accept what Christ Himself said, how can they call themselves, "Christians?"

 

I'm really concerned and confused.

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I know I don't have all the answers......but apparently, the Conservatives do! They even know more than Jesus Christ! More than God, too?!
I saw on the Daily Show that Conservapedia has actually asked its readers to send in suggestions to rewrite the more "liberal" sections of the Bible. I guess that would include getting rid of that part about being wary of false prophets.
they still haven't realized christ is a myth who only lives inside of them and not in any book or facility.
If Jesus were alive, I have absolutely no doubt in my mind he'd be a liberal. I mean, Galillee was nothing more than a latter day Berkeley. He was a 33-year-old out of work carpenter living with his mother, for God's sake. We are not incurring God's wrath for crucifying him, we're incurring God's wrath for the disappointment he felt in his son never amounting to anything.
The conservatives are still refusing to believe Jesus was Jewish. ~R~
Ocularnervosa: It would also include the words of Jesus, "Love thy neighbor."
Ben Sen: You don't have to believe everything you read concerning Jesus, but it's pretty far fetched to say He's a "myth."
Gwool: I don't think you would be disappointed in your son if he died to save someone.
Chuck: I agree. Lots of people forget that important part of history.
Here, I fixed the Beatitudes for them:


THE EIGHT BEATITUDES OF THE RIGHT

"Cursed are the poor,
for they deserve no healthcare.

Cursed are they who mourn war,
for they shall be called un-American.

Cursed are the un-meek,
for they shall ignore “shut the hell up, woman!”

Cursed are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness,
for they shall obviously be pinko, liberal, commies.

Cursed are the merciful,
for they shall give the afore mentioned healthcare to those poor bastards for FREE!.

Cursed are the pure of heart,
for they shall join Greenpeace.

Cursed are the peacemakers,
for they shall make the dividends we receive from the military-industrial complex fall .

Cursed are they who are persecuted for the sake of righteousness,
for theirs is the Office of the President of the United States of America."
These ass-wipes do not care about the Bible. The do not care about religion. They do not even care about America. They care about themselves, period. What kind of fortune they can amass, and how they can keep up with Donald "Douchbag" Trump! They sicken me!
To be more exact, in my belief structure, Christ is an ''archetype" that exists in my unconscious and that of all mankind whether they "believe" in it or not.

I do not see "him" as vastly different from many of the other energies that have been identified and worshipped throughout the ages. I agree with Jung, that "religion" is an instinct (unlike Freud) that can manifest itself in many different ways.

Fundamentalism and literalism, however, in this view is the least spiritual and most easily manipulated form of faith. That's why it is more likely to be a "stage" in a conscientious person's development and not the form they come to really believe in when they are no longer under the control of the institutions and proselytisers.
Ben, thanks for the clarification.
I've written a number of posts about that fact that the religious right is very un-christian. It seems that this atheist's values are more in line with my Mormon upbringing than most of the churchgoers I know.

Clearly, common sense isn't their strong suit.
Patricia, I had a conservative tell me once that he was a Christian but he really preferred and followed the Old Testament more. What was there to say? I mean, he was a "Christian" but not actually following any of Jesus's teachings. It boggled the mind.
What I fervently wish is that all these "Christians" would go to South Dakota or West Virginia or some state and stay there. In fact, I would think this an appealing idea. They could elect a "Christian" governor, legislators, mayors, town councils, school boards, etc., be totally in charge of everything in their state and then be able to conclusively prove what "Christians" can do politically and in terms of social issues. Public executions, beating children in school, on and on....they could show the world what being a "Christian" really means!
The right has LONG contradicted everything that Jesus taught. If He were alive today, he would be crucified (REALLY pardon the pun) in the media as farther left of Obama. Limbaugh would tell him he has a God Complex...
Hypocrisy Rules - I think I'll change my name to that.
Let me add that my husband has noticed over the last few years that "Christians" do not refer to the New Testament, but to the Old Testament, and he's absolutely correct. The Old Testament is the Torah of Judaism. The New Testament concerns the life and teachings of Jesus and his Disciples. But Jesus taught love, peace, compassion, tolerance, non-violence, humility, non-matierialism, kindness, being non-judgmental, and treating others as each would wish to be treated. This does not suit today's "Christians" who support the military-corporate complex, believe war and killing are solutions, are racists, violent, greedy and materialistic, and so on. The Old Testament says, "An eye for an eye..." which suits today's "Christians", not "do good to those who hate you...love thine enemies as thyself..." as it says in the New Testament.

A warmonger willing to kill his fellow human beings for money, because 99% of wars are fought for profit, after all, must believe in violence. The Old Testament is full of violence and war! And an obscure, out-of-context reference in the Old Testament is the "Christian" reason to condemn homosexuality. These "same" people were the ones who used an obscure reference in the Old Testament to justify slavery.
Soap Box Amy wrote: "What I fervently wish is that all these "Christians" would go to South Dakota or West Virginia or some state and stay there. In fact, I would think this an appealing idea. They could elect a "Christian" governor, legislators, mayors, town councils, school boards, etc., be totally in charge of everything in their state and then be able to conclusively prove what "Christians" can do politically and in terms of social issues. Public executions, beating children in school, on and on....they could show the world what being a "Christian" really means!"

I think the name of that place is called Texas... ;)
Revisionist history is an ongoing concern in this world, from denial of the holocast of WWII to this attempt at downplaying the role and importance of Jesus. The old testament and new testament are fundamentally different sounding for one reason, Jesus.
Jesus should be the heart of anything "Christians" do.
rated patricia k
They've already done a fantastic job of rewriting the legacy of Franklin Delano Roosevelt. I guess the Bible is the next step.
fundamentalists strike me as having a peer group thing
they all agree that they know everything, and then they all feel secure
no one dares deviate
how can they be so sure so far from the time of Christ?
no one can
If the rules don't suit you, change them. Its the American way.
The conservatives and fundamentalists have made a joke out of the Bible they so righteously thump. If one does believe, Jesus was a good guy and would never stand outside a gay funeral with signs that say 'God hates Fags'. The neocons are some of the richest of the 1% - the rest of us are told to get a job, or a better one. Good post.
These are the lyrics to one of my old songs. It may amuse you. It seems as if we are of the same mind concerning this topic. (It is a simple country style tune. The melody for the verses is plagiaristically close to John Prine's "Jesus Was A Capricorn)

Jesus Was A Liberal

When Jesus walked among the sick He healed them by his word.
He never asked for money or if they were insured.
What Would Jesus Do? Your answer is right there.
When Jesus walked the upon earth He provided free health care.

chorus
So I guess Jesus was a liberal. It can’t be denied.
He said "Blessed are the poor and meek"
not the ones with wealth and pride.
Since Jesus was a liberal you’ll have to decide.
Since Jesus was a liberal was God still on His side?

They brought the women to Jesus. Stoned to death she must be.
For breaking the laws against adultery.
Jesus just forgave her, sent her on back home.
Taught those death penalty fans about casting the first stone.

(chorus)

The Pharisees and Sadducees they were the status quo.
Jesus called them vipers, said "On you I cast woe!"
He was always butting heads with the powers that be.
Jesus spent His life questioning authority.

After Jesus left the earth, how did His disciples live?
They held everything in common, gave all they had to give.
Provided for all the needs of their community.
That don’t sound much like a market driven economy.

(chorus)

Now this is just a silly song to get you to ponder ‘round
What we’re being fed and what we swallow down.
Which candidate would He support? What party would He abide?
I bet if Jesus was here today, He’d be disgusted by both sides.

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oops! typo! line 4 should read:
When Jesus walked upon the earth He provided free health care.