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FEBRUARY 5, 2012 9:40AM

Cursive Writing Viewed As Archaic

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Instead of learning cursive writing, students are expected to have proficient keyboarding skills. Many school districts are no longer requiring students to learn cursive, which is being viewed as an archaic form of communication.

For example, last week I wrote prose covering my entire whiteboard. It was in cursive and it was large enough for the students to read from their seat. Half the students exclaimed, "whoa!" while the other half said, "I can't read cursive." It was a big eye-opener for me as to the state of education. I was already aware that they no loner taught spelling or geography, but cursive? Some of my students said, "I hate writing in cursive!"

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 These are high school students. Shocking isn't it? The evolution of communication through written language, no longer required. At first spelling went out the window with the invention of MSWord. Then, the invention of the cellphone erased our need to remember phone numbers. Our brains freed up from that 'useless' waste of space reserved for remembering important pieces of information.  Our phones. Spell check. MSWord. Why remember it if the little red line will tell us the word is spelled wrong? Why remember it if we can program our phone to dial someone's name instead of punching in the numbers?

Why use cursive if we can type instead? Which, by the way is the reason I started keeping a journal. It forces me to write in cursive as well as leave a bit of my own history for future generations. But, that's a whole different story. 

According to http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/28/us/28cursive.html, students are having problems not just writing cursive, but also reading the cursive letters their anscestors wrote in journals, diaries, and other papers. Districts spend much less time teaching cursive. The student in the article said that reading cursive was almost cryptic, like reading another language since they were not in the practice of reading it themselves. This reminded me of when our German teacher in high school showed us the old German alphabet in cursive. It looked like a foreign language, but it was still used among older Germans to this day, although replaced by the traditional Roman alphabet, it will most certainly die out in the next generation. 

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Professors as well as secondary teachers are also seeing an increase in sloppy writing. Students who are unable to use a pencils or manipulatives, eventually lead to the sloppy writing. Basically, if you don't use it you lose it. 

 http://tribstar.com/news/x1435410216/Archaic-Method-Cursive-writing-no-longer-has-to-be-taught

 Most students now print their names in block print. Cursive signatures are out the window. Testing is also a culprit. Students are asked to enter information in block print as well. When asked to write the essay at the end they have to pause and recall how to write in cursive. If they choose to write it in cursive.

 In one of the perhaps boldest moves in the forward (or perhaps regressive move) march in education is the State of Indiana's declaration that cursive no longer be required in its curriculum.

 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/07/07/indiana-schools-no-longer_n_892377.html 

My question is: Will cursive be the new "heiroglyphics" of the next generation?

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 Hmmm....

 

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Keep 'em ignorant as much as you can - why not? No spelling, no cursive, depend on calculators, don't need brains.
Welcome century 21.
Indiana actually revered that decision... or at least they planned to do it in December

http://www.ibj.com/indiana-lawmakers-want-cursive-mandatory-in-schools/PARAMS/article/31128

http://www.in.gov/activecalendar/EventList.aspx?view=EventDetails&eventidn=51169&information_id=102574&type=&syndicate=syndicate

Indiana is backwards in a lot of ways, but this did outrage pretty much everyone when the schools said that. We are fixing this. And who knows, maybe someday we'll be considered backwards for making cursive a law.
Reversed, not revered.

Strange how one letter makes a word mean two opposing things.
phyllis thanks for the update... man... just sayin! Out with cursive? pfft.
daisy... maybe cursive fonts will be okay? :-)
Pin numbers will replace signatures.
I remember when my daughter worked so hard to learn to print and when she was told that now she had to learn cursive she just could not believe it. She is in college now and does it all on computers. Cursive fonts are all we will have left.

I remember when someone told me to figure out what my signature would look like as I would use it the rest of my life and it was unique. I worked for quite awhile to make it nice.

I love cursive. My grandmother and my mother had excellent penmenship. It is an Art.
I've had people tell me not to use any of the cursive fonts on my computer to write them an e-mail, because it's "so hard to read"!!!

Ah well, like I goes, "slaves don't needs no readin' n' writin' nohow."
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@Miguela~ PIN numbers have replaced signatures,and I cannot use my credit card,because I keep forgetting my PIN!

Orange: That is so sad! I love cursive writing and calligraphy, the art of penmanship. What a loss that would be if it isn't taught anymore. One of the first shocks of my teaching life was to note that students couldn't tell time on an analog clock - all had digital watches! Now they won't be able to read a handwriting? Nooooo!!
R♥
That is the strangest thing I have heard in a long time.

Starting in first grade we learned block letters. Then in third grade we learned cursive, and it was also in third grade that we went from pencils to pens. It was a kind of rite of passage, and I remember feeling VERY mature when I could write in cursive.

I have heard of schools that teach italic handwriting instead of cursive. Italic handwriting is very beautiful and takes no more time to learn than cursive. In my old age I have actually started to change from cursive to italic, and I almost always write with a fountain pen.

But this idea of students not knowing how to read or write in cursive -- I don't even know what to say about that. It seems so . . . . uncivilized.
That is the strangest thing I have heard in a long time.

Starting in first grade we learned block letters. Then in third grade we learned cursive, and it was also in third grade that we went from pencils to pens. It was a kind of rite of passage, and I remember feeling VERY mature when I could write in cursive.

I have heard of schools that teach italic handwriting instead of cursive. Italic handwriting is very beautiful and takes no more time to learn than cursive. In my old age I have actually started to change from cursive to italic, and I almost always write with a fountain pen.

But this idea of students not knowing how to read or write in cursive -- I don't even know what to say about that. It seems so . . . . uncivilized.
Isn't there some relationship to cursive and motorskill development? And isn't there a neural or cognitive relationship as well? Might the demise of teaching this coding/decoding skill have a deleterious impact on other learning concepts?
Seems to me that some educational psychologists and epistomologists are suggesting a return to the concepts of education from the 70's and earlier which suggested that children do not need to be able to "decode"/read prior to 1st grade as many have insisted the last decade or so--but rather a return to "reading readiness" of socialization skills and the ability/self-discipline to sit still and focus are more important. Just wondering.
Excellent topic, very insightful. It is amazing how quickly such things as photographic film, land line phones, phonograph records and cursive handwriting are becoming quaint curiosities of the past. I always wonder what happens when Chaos finally breaks out but maybe that's already happened. R.
I taught third grade for 18 years and cursive was always a part of the curriculum. It was a favorite part of the day for most kids-they loved it because it was a "grown-up" thing to do, I always had quiet music playing as they practiced to add to relaxed vibe, and for some who struggled with printing cursive was a blessing. The pencil comes up off the page far less frequently than while printing, and for those with spatial issues, cursive was so much easier. I hope it is not a total thing of the past.
if the ideas kids came up with on their keyboards
or in their block writing were magnificent
and meaningful, i would be the first to
say screw cursive.

The term cursive derives
from the 18th century French cursif
from Medieval Latin cursivus,
which means literally running. This term in term derives from Latin currere
("to run, hasten").

cursive is a quick way to get your overflowing ideas on the page.

the question is: what are the new ideas we gotta get our hands to write faster?
Yes, I am similarly shocked, appalled and aghast at this move away from cursive writing. It definitely uses a different set of mental and physical skills than typing. But for my entire diatribe on the subject, I've already ranted thoroughly on my blog a few months ago. Here's the link...
http://runningwithstilettos.blogspot.com/2011/07/in-praise-of-penmanship.html
Sad to say, this is old news for those of us with kids in school. The state standardized tests are far more important than cursive. Sigh. I did make my fifth grader write her 5 sentence per day "reading journal" in cursive for a year. It improved her handwriting immensely. She prints now (6th grade) but its better than it was.

Cursive is great for kids with dyslexia, because it's nearly impossible to make letters backwards in cursive.
We can only hope!
Frankly, I'm tired of trying to decipher doctors writing.
I've had a post on this on the back burner for months! I'm glad to see you got there first : )
@ Walter: you are exactly right, there is a direct relationship between cursive and neural development and eye-hand coordination as well.
In Europe I read that cursive is taught first, with the more difficult block writing learned later. I think that makes so much sense.
It does feel as if cursive will be as odd as looking at shorthand in the not too distant future, which will be a loss, I think.
Thanks for taking the time to write about this!
We just keep lowering the bar
~R~
Good riddance to useless crap.

They should be studying math and science, we have enough unproductive lit majors anyway.

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Seems a shame as it is an art form and is also as beneficial to the brain as math skills. One more thing to down grade the learning skills we have long since taken for granted. I wish my cursive was as good as it once was. Penmanship and the written thank you note have all been tossed out the window. Now, I am beginning to sound olde. As in Old English. Side Bar: If you talk to a Brit, they would tell us that we do not speak English at all. Whether written or spoken. We are neanderthals in their minds. Having been graded on Cursive from Grade 3 through 8 in parochial school, I can definitely give myself a resounding "F" today. "Use it or lose it." Which begs the observation that the grading system rarely uses the "lettering system" anymore. Now, it's just numbering systems, though it has been for quite some time now. Feeling older by the second.
Walter B - Yes! That is absolutely correct. Thanks for your lucid underscoring of the importance to the brain's development that Cursive represents. My sentence structure there was likely off a bit, but I am right there with you and your understanding of same.
Here's the funny part. - the keyboard will go the way of the dinosaur before paper and pen will (um...iPad, anyone). These idiots are assuming that the input device we use today for our technology with me the input device of forever. It won't. It probably won't even last as the primary input device for more than another 20 years, and when the input device "reverts" back to your finger/a pen, what will be the fastest, most efficient input method?

Yep - handwriting (printing is printing, handwriting is handwriting. I don't know what people call it cursive...sounds silly).

Did you know they give 15 points for this on the SAT now? That's bullshit. I want my 15 points retroactively added into my score. I had nuns give me bloody knuckles over this shit. Those 15 points are mine by birthright.
@Carl,
Oddly enough, although I find some of the cursive fonts on my computer to be very attractive, my handwriting has always been of the sort that makes people say that I should have been a doctor. I've always used block capitals and can write with them just as quickly as most people can write in cursive.

@hyblaean-Julie,
Doctors don't write in any known style; they write in a secret doctor/pharmacist code. That some non-medical people can decipher it is amazing!
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zanelle: I remember in h.s. computers just came out, and one girl could name 5 fonts. I thought it was such a big deal.
Mishima: Doesn't it? It feels, so uneducated. Going backward.
Walter: Key words you just used: Reading Readiness.

I've heard this at least 5 times in teacher meetings this week by my administration.
lschmoopie: That's very interesting. I think kids need to slow down. That's part of the problem. Every wednesday I do "quiet music journaling time"... slip on some classical music, let them write about it, or anything on their minds... some dont, some do... and when I dont do it one week, I notice a huge difference in their demeanor. I think more people should slow them down, take the time to learn something.. :-)
James; That would be an entirely different post I think. Because I asked them if they've read a book this year.. and only 3 hands out of 160 or so shot up. Aside from cursive, they just aren't reading either.
froggy! If only more parents were like you! I'd die in happiness!
M.C.S. We do keep lowering the bar. We were told by admin: "What can you do and what ARE you doing to make sure your kids are passing?"

So, some of my colleagues "let them pass with a D"... instead of filling out paperwork. I knew it was coming.

Then, at a meeting, they put the stats up.
1. Pre-final Grades vs Final Grades.

AMAZING... you mean.. 80% of the kids IMPROVED? wow.

*face in palm*

People don't want to hear the truth about our kids because they're getting pressure to pass them, but they pass them and the skills arent there because we arent allowed to go back and reteach it.
Carl: That IS amazing. I learned something new today. There's no way I could learn everything that is known to man in this day and age. It's too much information!
I agree with the previous comments...cursive, script is an art.
To take some pride in your printing is to take some pride and ownership in the words you write down--perhaps if kids were to learn (or keep learning) that concept, they may think just a little bit before they start throwing smack around on Facebook and every where else where they feel they have no accountability attached to what they type. I hope cursive never dies, but I'm not too hopeful--one doesn't need cursive to fill in bubble sheets on a standardized test... :(
Pensive: I wish we did away with standardized tests. Go back to good ol reading writing, projects, creativity... science, book reports, field trips... that did us more good than filling bubbles ever did. I never was good at tests.
carl - that is also the input device of today. as devices get smaller, the touch keyboard will no longer be viable. That leaves handwriting and voice recognition.

Hell, I took calligraphy in high school. So did Steve Jobs. It was a huge part of what helped in the development of the various fonts we use today.

History is important. Handwriting is important. Spelling is kinda important (mostly to discern word origin, but there are so many variants and rule exceptions that I personally like spell checking and find it to be useful for a great many things. Seriously - who cares if I can spell onomatopoeia or not...have I read the word before? do I know what it is? can I give you a definition and an example of it? Then, we're good...ps, I can't spell it...spell check corrected me, I missed the 'e' at the end).

Sports are important. Music is important. Ya know what's not important (for everyone) - Geometry. Calculus. Physics.

Don't get me wrong, these things are important, but what does it matter to you that Special Relativity is about to be proven wrong? You planning on traveling faster than the speed of light sometime soon?

People don't think ahead. Shit, maybe that does make relativity important. Scratch everything I said.
Indiana is doing something bizarro- a bill to allow creationism to be taught in the schools. I knew it was too good to be true.

http://www.jconline.com/article/20120206/NEWS/202060309/Legislators-weight-creation-science-bill?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|News
I don't know what to say or feel...this is so sad.