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author, writer, reader, book coach, book designer, book producer, photographer... 5th gen northern californian, new york city, new mexico, and now living back in san francisco, ca... photos on this blog are mine unless otherwise noted... involved with Bay Area publishing community... interested in profit, people, planet - a sustainable world -- and energy of all kinds - fuel, human, spiritual... love cities, the new mexican desert, blues, watching men work, mysteries, b/w photos, bridges, driving my car, public transpo, the F train, and faces emerging from shadow.

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OCTOBER 3, 2009 4:12PM

Men Sleep Around. Let's Get Over It.

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 A friend and I were talking today about David Letterman and men having sex with someone not their spouse and how upset and scandalous many seem to be about it. And how stupid this whole attitude is. We should get over it. Men sleep around. Men have always slept around. Yeah yeah, I know it’s a sweeping generalization, but really… Men have two heads and much of the time the lizard brained one is driving the bus.

 Why do we think this is scandalous? Or unnatural? Why are we trying to make men into something they are not? Why do we look askance at women who are attracted to power, or really anyone attracted to power – wanting and willing to get close to it?

 Prostitution has been around a long time, maybe forever. Why don’t we legalize it, keep it clean, protect the workers, and get some taxes from it? Why don’t we simply accept that this is part of being human? Why do we somehow want to put men in straightjackets and tell them they have to behave in ways that run counter to their strong natural behaviors?

 Why do we act surprised? Why do we snicker about this?

 What seems to me to be a serious issue here is not where Letterman or any other man puts his magic wand, but what kind of work or personal environment the relationship creates. If the relationship creates a hostile work environment or someone can’t be treated fairly if they choose to not participate sexually – then throw the book at him. But to create this false Puritanical set of values that so many find impossible to meet seems to create public scenarios that are a huge waste of time.

 Let’s look at another recent sex scandal  -- the one where Senator John Ensign had an affair with a colleague’s wife, used his office and his contacts and his parents (his parents!) to pay everyone off and keep them quiet. What matters to me about the Ensign affair is that Ensign slept with a trusted colleague’s wife – not the affair per se but that he betrayed a friend and colleague. That really sucks and that really makes me question his judgment and his leadership qualities.

 There is public pain and private pain – and it seems to me that we need to define and separate these areas a little better. There is enormous private pain in these scandals, but to somehow equate that with public judgment seems wrong. Do I think less of these men who cheat on their spouses or find pleasure in public restrooms? Yes, I do. Do I make judgments about them and find this all distasteful? Yes, I do. Do I think it equates with whether they are good leaders, good presidents, good attorneys general, or even good talk show hosts? No… I do not.

 Why can’t we grow up and accept our own humanity in all its messiness? Why must we confuse the private with the public and in the process ourselves become so prurient and childish. I congratulate David Letterman on “coming clean” – it makes him look courageous and human. Let’s have more of that.

 

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Acknowledging your "sweeping generalization" somehow doesn't make it any more acceptable. This man doesn't sleep around. This man hasn't slept around. This man's male friends don't sleep around (yes, I know.) Somehow we've found a way to deal with the "lizard brain" that doesn't involve suppressing our essential nature. In other words hey, we don't WANT to sleep around. We're not freaks; I just happen to think we're kind of - I don't know - decent.
thank you dan... i know there are decent men and men who make decisions about how they act and i've been lucky to know some myself. many other men (and many of my men friends are even more adamant than me about this) just aren't that way. and it seems to me we simply should stop being scandalized by it.
I totally agree with you about the scandalization. Couldn't care less. When you say:

"Do I think less of these men who cheat on their spouses or find pleasure in public restrooms? Yes, I do. Do I make judgments about them and find this all distasteful? Yes, I do. Do I think it equates with whether they are good leaders, good presidents, good attorneys general, or even good talk show hosts? No… I do not."

I could not agree with you more. You nailed it.
All men are pigs. No exceptions:):)
No we don't. I would sooner cut it off than cheat on my wife....because if I didn't cut it off...she would.
heheh Blackflon... there are days i think that and then i really appreciate it more when i meet someone, some man, who is not like that!

T.S. I hear you!
There has been nothing said that these babes got with Letterman against their will. So why is this automatically the guy's fault?

At some point these babes said "yes" to him. How do we know that some of these babes didn't pursue him?
indeed. moths to the flame. seduction of power. i imagine it would be hard to resist. thanks I.C. London
Well said Paula. The snickering and self-righteous indignation I hear every time a story like this breaks always leaves me feeling like we're a nation of Sunday school students. People have sex, even (gasp) outside the bounds of wedlock. Why is it even newsworthy?
well, shoot.

women sleep around, too.

sex is fun. it can even be done without hurting anyone.

it's fun, right? women know that, too.
But Letterman got married last March, after a very long relationship with his now wife. Why did he bother?
Hey Sis! I agree with you on some points and have to respectfully disagree on others. I for one find it difficult to understand a person (male or female) who profess love and fidelity to their partner and the find it necessary to betray the trust built between two individuals. Workplace romances are at best fraught with danger. the danger being an underling being harassed or the star of the show being chased puts the whole office/workplace under a tremendous amount of undo pressure and stress.

On the flip side, sex between two consenting adults, be it a committed relationship or a "fling" (for lack of a more concise word) can be a beautiful thing.

As for demonizing the afair, I guess it would depend on how public the figures are. The more public someone is the higher the probability someone else is going to get hurt deeply. As for me, I shudder at the thought of betraying my loved one, will never happen.
yeah, why is this stuff newsworthy nanatehay... when there are so many more important issues that actually need discussing

yeah, wakingupslowly, many women do sleep around -- and on one level i don't care about that -- what bothers me is the amount of attention we pay to sex scandals with very little discussion of the important public issues -- like a charged work environment

voicegal, makes you wonder doesn't it -- why bother indeed

hey bro -- i think we are indeed on the same page -- my issue is the confusion of the personal with the public and the amount of attention paid plus the real issues of how the public can be really hurt (i.e. the whole workplace scenario)....

thanks for responding guys. love it.
Don't care what anyone does for their own pleasure in their own private world. Travelled quite a bit with my male colleagues for business; some cheat, some don't, just like women.
I agree with you for the most part. I would add, however, that women need to acknowledge their power and either learn to use sex for their advantage as men are so easily sexually manipulated, or should focus on more important things than sex and men such as careers, education, their children, and learn to support, encourage, and network with other women. After all, you women out there, although the man enjoys sex every time, or just about, how often do you really enjoy it with a man who is as truly interested in your enjoyment as his own? Yeah. I thought so.
yes, rita, it's again the personal vs the public and our voracious interest.... let the personal be personal

it would, indeed be good for women, us, to learn more about our own power -- sexual and otherwise, soap box amy.

thanks for commenting.
Thanks for this post. It's honest and well-stated. The comments bear out the fact that this will always be a major point of disagreement between men and women. Spice of life.
some offline comments, as well as some here, have coalesced around the idea that all of us, men and women, are often governed by our natures and are often not in as much control as we might think or like.

so, thanks jeff and incandescent -- your comments are appreciated and very much in line with this idea.

what a good conversation this is turning out to being.