Some of them are darn cute, too, which makes it really hard to understand.

And yet one "Baby Aspirin" a day is also good for your heart...they say, but what a contradiction in terms there?

Cathy GF, Baby aspirin to prevent babies. That's good.

“Religious men do not want women to be free with their sexuality
because they are afraid they would strike out
if they gave their women a choice on whom
they would like to have sex with.”
Any damn fool woman getting involved with a fundamentalist thinking man
deserves all the bad sex coming her way, is my silly scornful opinion.
Why did she marry or start dating mr. tight-ass to begin with,
Is what I wanna know.

One might say, ah, she didn’t know better at the time, but blah to that.
Doesn’t she have a tv? Cannnot she watch soap operas
to get a more realistic view of the robust romantic
American male of today?

Well sure women are not gonna be allowed sexual freedom under a religious guy.
They will go off and have private communions with God the Son.
Learn of the mighty advantage of our dear blessed species
In having a , ha, hand
In our own evolution…

My theory there, James, is the mind control tactics used in fundamentalist societies. The sense of belonging and the fear of damnation if you stray. It's rough to be shunned by everyone that you know.

The God given concept of free will perverted to control.

I still think folks who aren't suppose to be having sex should have little direction in which we, those who get to have sex, go with it!

But that's just me!!!

They have been raised to believe that the reason women don't want sex is that they don't like it. They look at their wives, who refuse them, and say, it is because I don't like it. If a woman could avoid having a child and still have sex, then there must be something wrong.... so, no choice is no choice. 100 years ago, when people didn't want more children, they stopped having sex. Supposedly.
It turns out that they are somehow suggesting we all start having same sex relationships, or explore those crazy sodomy and onanism urges. You know, those guys from the bible.

They would indeed strike out. No one with a real choice, developed thanks to freedom and some education, would ever sleep with any of those cretins.

Tink, perhaps they are jealous? After all, we all know about tomcats...

OB, I had to look up onanism. Thanks for the new word. How can they promote same sex relationships when they hold same sex relationships to be an abomination? Quandry.

Mary, there is truth in that statement!

Maybe there are just rules against promiscuity and religion prohibits this, as to the teachings of many pagan and atheist ethical philosophers. Many human beings are just emotionally fragile and are sometimes pressured into having sex before they are ready. Some are never ready for casual sex, and this doesn't mean there is something "wrong with them." It just means that for some people, they attach more emotions to the sexual act and they are hurt easily. And for this reason, in part, ethical and religious rules arise to protect people from getting into bad situations, as well as the prospect of being pregnant without a father to support the child.

You are also making an assumption, that the only people who use contraception are those interested in "casual sex." This isnt true. Many married people and committed couples use it, too.

Ive had a very religious fellow enticing me and it blew my mind that he can be so sexy and holy at the same time. But I think that is an illusion. I think deep down he doesn't give sex equal time to saving souls. hmmmmm....

RW0059, I hadn't thought of that as the foundation for the beliefs of waiting until marriage. That is a good theory. I did not mean to offend with this question; facetious was the intent. I do know that many people, myself included, use birth control pills for other reasons than preventing pregnancy and that many married people use it, too. This was just a response to all of the propaganda being spewed in the news right now.

zanelle, religious men can be incredibly sexy.

Well, off to sleepy time. Work again tomorrow. :-(

Have a fun night!

Female sexuality freaks them out.

And all of the above!

Asia, I can picture it now. Or maybe I overheard it at Mom's choir practice.

As a religious woman who's not terribly hung up on casual sex, I'm not going to leap to anyone's defense, but I will say that I think when sex is devalued, we do lose something. Clergy see a lot of emotional carnage resulting from sexual behavior, and it's mostly not (as outsiders think) religious guilt; it's often a need for meaning that people are shamed, culturally, into denying. A little distance from the hook-up culture provides ample proof that it's not utopia.

You don't have to agree with the bishops or approve of their manipulative behavior in this latest mess. I don't. But it's quite another thing to proclaim that religious men in general have unhealthy attitudes toward sex. Disconnecting one's body from mind and soul generally is a very poor decision.

Fascinating. I have the best orgasms when I do disassociate from my body and float up by the ceiling. It is about trust. A religion that teaches fear and guilt if you don't get it all right all the time can make pleasure hard to find.

I'll just repeat a comment I made elsewhere:

There is a legitimate form of birth control -- it's called abstinence, and I suggest women start practicing it -- on their husbands and boyfriends. Then let's see how long it takes the boys to "rethink" their position on other forms of birth control.

(I realize this won't have much effect on the Catholic hierarchy -- at least not on paper.)

If that's not the whole truth, it's a large part of it. As the Candidate Whose Name Must Not Be Googled said, "that's not the way it should be". Therefore no aiding and abetting.

High Lonesome, I'm not trying to push a lifestyle on anyone. I'm saying that everyone should get to choose for themselves. Free will is free will. I also think that the way you described it is way better than the hell & damnation that's the usual rhetoric.

Zanelle, you got it exactly right. Trust is everything.

Tom, from what I've heard your suggestion works on every other topic so why not this one.

Abrawang, isn't it amazing the level of presumption involved in making definitive statements on a lifestyle you have no experience with? I guess this candidate could have been a wild child but if so, he's managed to conceal it well.

I'm neither religious nor afraid of casual sex, so I'm no help at all!

D_R, there is always an outlier. Good morning!

Well, it's simple--women are evil.

Didn't you get the God memo? They eat all the apples, talk to snakes -- all the bad stuff.

PS: Please Zanelle, don't mention your orgasms -- I'm trying to eat an egg salad sandwich here.

Spumey, thanks for clearing that up. Did you enjoy the egg salad?