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MAY 29, 2009 1:57PM

How Bad is Violent Media?

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We've become accustomed the notion that media violence is bad for children, and that exposure to it can lead to all kinds of problems, including violent behavior.  Those us who remember Columbine in 1999 will certainly recall  reports that the killers played the videogame Doom and listened to Marilynn Manson before they went on their tragic rampage.  Less dramatic anecdotes pop up regularly. 

 But there's a new, detailed analysis of media studies that raises questions about how close a correlation there is between media and violent behavior.  In this month's issue of the Journal of Pediatrics, two researchers have published "The Public Health Risks of Media Violence:  A Meta-Analytic Review" 

Basically, the author conducted a study of studies, known as a meta-analysis, of articles exploring the link between the media and violent behavior. Their search dated back a decade (1998-2008), and they compiled 25 studies  that included 12,436 subjects in all. 

The results counter the conventional wisdom that media violence begets real world violence.  The authors, in their analysis, found a correlation so small that they concluded "if the goal of society is to reduce violence, scientific, political, and economic efforts would likely bear more fruit in other realms."

In explaining the disconnect between the prior conclusions and their findings, the authors pointed to a number of problems: 

  • Publication Bias in many of the studies:  Basically, authors and reviewers are more likely to accept and publish data that supports one class of results  over the other.  In this analysis, the suggestion is that results showing that media exposure leads to violence gets more weight than results that are inconclusive or opposite. 
  • Poor methodologies that don't clearly or strictly measure the effect of media violence
  • Unmeasured effects of other factors that lead to violence
  • The politics of media violence:  "the concern remains that media violence reserach may continue to be driven primarily by ideological or political beliefs rather than objectivity...there may be the perfect storm of political opportunism, a union of far-right and far-left social agendas, and scientific dogmatism that has impaired the scientific community's ability to critically examine this research field.

So now what?  Should we put our kids in front of the TV while we watch reruns of the A-Team?  Not likely--a better piece of advice might be to stay cautious about TV and media violence and hope good researchers can overcome and dogma about media violence and design good studies that give us better information. 

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this piece was first published by Dr. Kevin Pho on the website, www.kevinmd.com

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OK, as someone who once upon a time did considerable research into mass media and their ability to affect how we think, speak, feel and act, let me pose one question:

If the media have little or no on influence on shaping or determining human behaviour, why on earth do corporations spend billions of dollars on advertising?
Boanerges1,
thanks for reading--I don't think we can generalize the results of this study to other forms of media influence and behavior, this piece just speaks for violence.
Can I just offer some anecdotal data? After feeding my children a strict diet of Mickey Mouse Clubhouse and Yo Gabba Gabba, my husband and I crumbled. Five minutes after the kids watched their first episode of Batman, I got a surprise punch to the kidneys. And two days after a Tweetie Bird cartoon, I was NOT delighted to hear my child say "PUSSY" 2500 times at a restaurant.
All due respect, but yes you can. It doesn't matter what the resulting behaviour is -- teaching someone to buy a product or teaching someone that violence is acceptable. Same principles at work. I stand by my own conclusions of 1972.
I was around when "The President's Commission Report on Obscenity and Pornography" was published. The President was Nixon.

Much to the regret of the censorious crowd, the report could not be made to fit the prevailing mood that exposure to graphic sexual content resulted in rapacious or even promiscuous behavior. I doubt any future study will link media violence with real-world violence in mentally-healthy children.

Often, the facts are counter-intuitive, which only exposes the flaws in intuition.
angrymom--thanks for sharing. You make an illustrative point--the authors aren't saying media is NOT bad for you--they're just saying the studies that conclude that are seriously flawed, and calling for less ideology and more science in figuring out the truth.
People seem to be very attached to an old-fashioned model of persuasion. It pictures human beings as responding to meaning like Pavlov's dogs, or it insists that people are soft wax, to be formed through the media.

News flash, people. There's been a cognitive revolution in psychology. People do not respond to meaning like the doctor's hammer hitting your knee. They situate it in their own previous experience, thoughts and feelings.

That means that people's response is contingent, context-dependent. It may influence some people to become more violent, but it also influences some to become less violent. And from the point of view of common sense, this is reasonable. If you watch a film of explicit violence and feel sympathy with the victim, you may be more gentle for a time.

Many years ago, I read about a study of music in a popular science magazine. The researchers correlated how much people liked music with the predictability of motifs: do they like predictability in music, or unpredictability? The conclusion was that they like neither completely predictable music nor completely unpredictable, so liking was positively correlated with middle predictability. A fine example of a badly designed experiment, based on a false theoretical model, which proves nothing. Studies that try to link meaning with action through the condtioned-response model are equally doomed to failure. We have seen this over and over again. I think the surprising thing is that this needs saying again.

Skinner is dead. Althusser is dead. Let's move on already.
I grew up watching every single violent movie starring Arnold Schwarzenegger, Chuck Norris, and Sylvester Stallone I could find. I've never really been in a fight or had the urge to ever physically hurt another human being. Sometimes that mindless violence can be fun and sometimes it can be horrifically stupid...but if it begets violence, I think the greater cause of that is parental inability to distinguish to their children the difference between right and wrong.
When I was a boy adults were constantly blabbering about "violence on television." Even as a child, I knew they were missing the point. The problem with television is not that it's too violent. The problem with television is that it's television. It's passive stimulation. It's waste of time, especially for children who ought to be either playing outdoors or reading as much as possible.

I know society is putting all kinds of obstacles in the way of children playing outdoors now. I'm just glad I had my childhood back when it was still legal to be a kid.
I haven't read any studies, but I've read Sislela Boks 1990's book on entertainment violence. And, according to her, the correlations aren't so much between watching violence and being violent, but between watching violence and becoming "numb to violence" (ie, becoming indifferent to the victim's of violence). Did the studies you review disprove this? That seems like the more significant question.
Sorry, I didn't mean "disprove" the hypothesis. I meant "Do the studies fail to prove this hypothesis?"
sribblenerd,
thanks for reading and your insights--intuition, of all things, seem worth testing.
I think Evan helps illustrate Matthew's point.
Patrick,
"legal to be a kid"
please expand...
I don't believe that there is a connection between television and violence in children. I watched A LOT of tv, as did all my compadres, and I think I saw one fight in my childhood. Yet, I also read a lot, and all the children's books I read that had been written before 1960 always had fights in them. Now, that doesn't necessarily prove anything, because fights make good stories and therefore that's why they get included in those stories, but it always seemed to me that kids used to fight more than they do now, in my lifetime.

I think that there is LESS violence among children today because there is less violence against children committed by parents--parents don't spank or beat their kids in the ways that used to be commonplace. I'm quite certain that my dad used to get hit with a belt, not because his parents were malevolent monsters, but because that was the socially normal way to discipline your kids. We were spanked, but never hit with anything.

And as for the sensational stories that Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold from Columbine listened to Marilyn Manson and watched violent movies--so did all their schoolmates. So did all of mine. Those two were just CRAZY (as it was so well put by Chris Rock.) It had nothing to do with the music. Or South Park.
michael aparicio,
thanks for your comments-->I haven't read the book you're referring to but I suppose it's a good possibility worth testing if researchers use this meta-analysis as a launch point for further research.
When I say, "I'm glad I had my childhood back when it was still legal to be a kid," I am referring to schools that do idiotic things like passing rules against running on the playground. I'm also referring to the current practice of taking any boy who behaves too much like, well, a boy, as having "Attention-Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder" and giving him drugs that would stunt his growth. And if I said I would like to start a school for boys, to take advantage of the natural curiosity and exuberance of boys, and put it to the service of learning, I'll bet there would be any number of people who would be happy to call me a MALE CHAUVINIST PIG who wants to keep women in the kitchen, barefoot and pregnant, blah blah blah blah blah... Probably including a few people here on OS.
the diversity of opinion on this is just more validation that we need better studies that push ideology aside. I myself grew up exposed to plenty of media violence--comic books, movies (saw Clockwork Orange when I was 14), etc, but I didn't turn out to be a thermal underwear-bowler hat wearing Korova Milk Bar drinking hooligan.

I think the media get too conveniently blamed for too much, and becomes a scapegoat for own personal, familial, and societal failings . If I'm wrong about that, I say let's prove it.
So it doesn't make them more violent. But that certainly doesn't mean it doesn't affect them psychologically. Maybe it makes subjects more passive. Maybe it makes subjects less social. Maybe it makes them less attentive in school. Maybe it makes it hard for them to engage in the relatively boring rituals of community that keep a society healthy and connected.

I find these kind of studies kind of useless. And as a parent, I certainly don't need a study to tell me that sitting down to three hours of violent television a night is not the best thing for my son's brain.
All I can do is relate my own experience. When my kids were little we got rid of our TV for several years and I didn't let them play video games...I home schooled them. They quit fighting and became very creative. They did more art projects, played outside for hours, the household was at peace and they did well academically. Got the TV back, Fighting started back up, constant contention and lower grades. I personally think it makes a big difference...or just spending the time in front of the tube does it whether it's violent or not.
I appreciate this post and all the comments. I have always been interested in the connection between violence in the media and violence in real life.

I really appreciate Matthew DeCoursey's point, which is to say that most conversations about this are simplistic. That having been said, I wanted to throw in that worrying about creating violent citizens is only one aspect; the other is desensitization. There is something that bothers me about children who are not esthetically horrified by the blood-and-guts dismantling of others. I grant everyone here that playing guns and cops and robbers doesn't turn kids into killers and neither, probably, does watching violent TV. But does it make them more likely to support their President's "War on Terror," blithely accepting the death toll of hundreds of thousands? I don't know. I have boys who started out without toy guns but somehow ended up with them, so I'm not judging.

As I write, I realize that what's worse is both the mundane and the abject cruelty displayed in some television shows and films. That's less easy to monitor if one is counting blood spills or limbs severed. But the cruelty bothers me the most.

(Wasn't it Reagan, not Nixon, who commissioned the pornography study? I thought it was rather hysterical that Meese and the others who had delved into the subversive world of porn for the good of the country came up with the conclusion that it contaminates the mind and alters behavior. Which suggested they themselves must now have been compromised!)
Juliet-
my instinct is certainly to agree with you, and even is studies showed violent media isn't bad for children, I wouldn't sit my kid down in front of the TV for three hours either (unless it's a Laker game!)
Angrymom:
Perhaps your anecdotal evidence is why watching violence on TV doesn't make kids violent. They see something unreal (on TV) and then when they imitate it in real like (punch Mom) they get the message VERY CLEARLY that violence is wrong.

A lot of violence on TV is against very clear-cut bad guys. Either bad guys do it, or good guy do it only to bad guys. There's generally a moral.
Boan - all lot of advertising is about name recognition. People feel more comfortable with products they know. The brand wants to be the first that springs to mind when a shopper is grabbing something off the shelf.
Really, this debate has nothing to do with television per se. Plato complained about poets and their affect on the larger public. In his republic, he said
"Then we must assume a control over the narrators of this class of tales as well as over the others, and beg them not simply to but rather to commend the world below, intimating to them that their descriptions are untrue, and will do harm to our future warriors. "
And really, the power and pull of narrative, whether biblical, instructional, or poetic, does shape our thoughts and expectations. I'm of a generation where we children watched more television than they spent time with parents or even, in some cases, in school. How can that not affect us? How does a child discriminate between the stories on TV and those in church?
It seems profoundly silly to me to say that violence on TV has no affect on children, since they learn by imitating and interacting with their peers. What do kids imitate? TV.
Most people look at any normal adult, who is able to determine reality from fantasy, control their impulses, and understand consequences and presume that since violent TV doesn't much influence them, that this is true for everyone. Unfortunately, it is not.
Who might violence on television affect:
1) People with poor impulse control
2) People already inclined towards violence
3) People who are crazy
4) People who are, frankly, not that bright or incapable of understanding the consequences of their actions.
These are not people whom you want to be giving extra ideas to.
If you've seen the movie Quills, you'll know what I mean.
I don’t know the details of this study, but I think fine distinctions must be made. To say that a fictional narrative which includes violence does not inspire imitative violence is not the same as saying the media in toto has no influence on violent behavior. Watching the Joker wipe out a town might not encourage me to do the same, but hearing a commentator I respect say repeatedly that certain classes of people don’t deserve to live might very well inspire me to embrace and act upon his philosophy. I speak as one whose church was shot up by a dim-witted psycho who proclaimed his right-wing media influences. And last night an abortion doctor was slain by another such wretch. I also must wonder if another form of “Publication Bias” was practiced by the researchers in the studies they chose to include.

I also recall how the Comics Code Authority destroyed a burgeoning art form, largely on the basis that violence in comic books fostered violence in children. In short, the devil is in the details, and no valid conclusion can possibly be as simple as this article would suggest.
John,
your comments are timely given the death of Dr. Tiller and the commentary in Salon on Bill O'Reilly's comments about him
It is bad actually on the violent media. But then again, it is depend to our self to make decision on what we received from media.

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thanks rellayy sitesthanks for reading--I don't think we can generalize the results of this study to other forms of media influence and behavior, this piece j
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I never believed that media violence would bear much influence on actual violence. I always argued that real life violence is more deeply rooted in personal environments such as family, community etc. Speed Dating NYC holds Speed Dating
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