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john blumenthal
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Curmudgeon. Formidable braggart. Comedy writer. Eight books, 2 movies. Former associate editor at Playboy Magazine. Movies include "Short Time," (major flop), and "Blue Streak" (huge hit, no idea why.) Last two novels were "What's Wrong With Dorfman?" (St. Martin's Press) and "Millard Fillmore, Mon Amour," (St. Martin's Press). New novel: "Three and a Half Virgins."

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AUGUST 31, 2009 10:34AM

Surviving Your Daughter’s First Date

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Having once been a teenage boy, I know that teenage males have sex on their minds for at least 15 hours and 59.99 minutes out of the average 16 hour day. So, the very notion that some hormonally-overdosed boy will try place his paws on even one sacred inch of my daughter’s anatomy will transform me from a good-natured father into a fire-breathing Visigoth.

  

It’s nice to have attractive daughters, but there are drawbacks, the worst of which is that more boys will be showing up. No doubt they will be polite, even obsequious, but good manners have no bearing on how they plan to conduct themselves once they’ve driven off with your daughter. There may even be an inverse proportion involved here, but I haven’t had time to conduct a scientific study.

  

I have two attractive daughters. When a young man expresses romantic interest in them, I wish they were genetically related to Quasimodo. A hunchback and some well-placed facial warts would do nicely.

  

Another disconcerting aspect of having daughters is that they grow breasts at 12. When I was a kid, girls weren’t allowed to have breasts until their senior year. Those that broke that law did their utmost to conceal the evidence, except for Angela Chuckerman, but that’s another story.

  

Before her first date, I  mentioned to my daughter that I had certain criteria regarding the basic appearances of the boys she was considering “hooking up with,” a phrase that unfortunately, has little to do with fishing or weaving.  First, his hair had to be in a fairly normal state -- no dyed hair, no  shaved heads. Second: his underpants could not be showing above the pant line. Third: no visible tattoos or piercings. Who knows what sort of electrical disaster could occur if his tongue stud ever connected with her braces.

  

My daughter’s first date was with a guy named Vince. I took Vince aside to show him my nonexistent collection of signed baseball bats, and outlined for him what his sorry fate would be should he dare to touch my little girl on one of the fifty-two areas I had painstakingly annotated on a small scale model of her body, drawn on a piece of graph paper.

  

Prior to the date, I also asked Vince for a detailed typewritten copy of their complete itinerary, which included a stop at Burger King for dinner and a movie at the mall. 

  

And so, they departed, my innocent little girl and this pockmarked Lothario, but only after I had spoken those annoying and pointless two words which I swore I would never say because my father had said them to me so often that I wanted to strangle him: “Drive safely.” 

  I spent most of that evening pacing up and down in the living room, stopping now and again for a glance at my watch and a swallow of scotch, which I had earlier poured into a shot glass, but was now drinking straight out of the bottle.  Meanwhile The Missus was the picture of serenity.

“If you’re going to pace like this every time she has a date,” she said “we may want to consider replacing the living room carpeting with ceramic tile.”

  

Naturally, I stayed up late to make sure she was home safely before curfew, which I had originally set at a very reasonable 8:00 PM. But my daughter and my wife ganged up on me and talked me into midnight as the ETA. Short of a nuclear attack, I would accept no excuse for lateness.

  

         When they returned at exactly 11:59:12, give or take a nanosecond, I disabused Vince of any thoughts the sex-starved scoundrel may have had about a goodnight kiss or a cheap feel. I turned on the alarm system the second their feet hit the doorstep. The little bounder practically jumped out of his shoes.

 

 

 

             Why do I behave like this? First, as a father, I feel it is my duty to protect her from predators. Second, I’m saddened that one day she will leave my house and live in one of her own. With some boy. I will miss her to death.    

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Funny! I've got 2 daughters in toddler years. Oh joy! The things to look forward to (not). I wonder if you've seen Belle Epoque? Penelope Cruz stars. Movie about a young man, an older man, and his 4 beautiful daughters?
I've seen it. What a handful.

Good luck with yours. Start steeling yourself now.
How old are your daughters? 40? And they are still living at home?
What's your point, O'Really? My daughters are 8 and 12. Early bloomers. I didn't have them when I was 12. That only happens in Arkansas.
I'm so glad my children are all boys.
rAted!
Fathers need a wingman. While you're pointing out the disadvantages of being hit by a baseball bat to that over-eager pup, the wingman sticks a GPS transmitter under the car. If he's really good, he'll plant a listening device, too.
I had my kids micro-chipped years ago. I tried the hidden video camera but they werent cooperative.
John, I hope you have the type of relationship with your daughters, I enjoy with mine. My youngest waited until she was 19 before giving up her virginity. She called me and not her mother (my-exwife) because she knew I "could handle the truth" and her mom couldn't.

That open communication is what I value and cherish about my relationship with them.

I told their perspective dates, that I come from a long history of mohels in the family, which could perform more serious damage on your person than your average Louisville Slugger.
I do have an excellent relationship with my daughters, but they go their own way with men. Plus, for me it's TMI sometimes.
Although I have no daughters, I was a hormonal raging teenage boy at one time so I get this totally. Below is a country music video on exactly your subject. I'm sure you can relate. Cogrates on the EP.

http://www.cmt.com/videos/studio-330-sessions/rodney-atkins/162035/cleaning-this-gun-come-on-in-boy.jhtml
Ah yes, been there, done that. None of these precautions help, of course, but what else is a father to do?
My wife and I just had our first baby -- a daughter -- three months ago. You're first paragraph is oh, so true, and fills my heart with dread for the teenage years to come!

Great essay. Rated!
Sometimes its the female whose the aggressor, they are all not "sugar and spice". I can remember being about 13, a new family moved in the neighborhood one summer. They had a young teen who was quite developed and much more experienced then all us. By the end of summer she has educated us ALL! Needless to say it was a fun summer.
Your post is funny and I suppose meant in a light hearted way. But I am discouraged by the ongoing cultural trope that girls must be protected from the sexual predations of boys, that they have something valuable that they are not really effective guardians of, thus requiring the intervention of men who know better and would restrict their sexual activity 'for their own good, because I know what boys are like'. It never seems to occur to people that girls have the same hormonal surges and are just as, if not more, interested in sex. That we'd do so much better to talk in terms of her responsibility for her self, and how to navigate the currents running through her body, rather than deny them, shield them and otherwise behave as if they weren't hers and hers alone to rule or be ruled by.

For decades I've heard fathers joke about knowing boys would be after only one thing with their girls. Why don't we try raising boys differently, instead of continuing the ineffective strategy of training girls to be 'good' and 'protecting' them so they can grow up to be women who aren't comfortable with, don't own or even understand their own sexuality? Does any father really want his daughter to grow into a wife with no libido who doesn't know how to achieve orgasm? Because that describes the majority of adult sexually active women today - and that is a direct result of the 'harmless' joking around that accepts boys horniess as a matter of course while treating girls as untouchable objects of desire with no real will or desires of their own.

I truly don't mean to rain on your parade here, or criticize you personally. I just think it's time we moved on from this type of humor, since reinforcing it doesn't really lead to any positive consequences. Keeping your daughter 'protected', i.e. sexually clueless and naive, does not serve her, or her future partners, well at all.
My girls were not sexually clueless, but I think fathers are more protective with girls than boys. Sure, girls like sex too, But things like date rape are rarely instigated by females. But I appreciate your argument.
Nick -- I wanted daughters. They love their Daddys and take care of us when we get old. Also, I'd rather play tea party than xBox. Maybe that's just me though.
Having raised both girls and boys, I have to say I had less trouble from my baby girl. As a matter of fact, thay stayed around so much, I had to make them go to a movie or something. My Boys, I never seen them again. (only kidding, almost)
Oh god, I'm laughing at your post! Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. The standing joke at our house was that Dad had a shotgun! And the first time a boy came over I made it a point that it was leaning in a corner of the living room (cased). She stepped into the room with the young sexfiend and pointed it out to him. You could see his Adam's apple bobbing up and down.
Then they sat on the couch. After a bit I came casually walking through the living room. He was still wearing his baseball hat. I looked at him. "Sun in your eyes?" I asked. "Is it raining in here?" And he got the message and removed the cap. A little while later, I walked through again (not checking up. No not me) and the hat was back on his head. I reach over the back of the couch where he was sitting with my daughter and took hold of the hat, walked over to the front door, opened it and sailed the hat into the yard. "There. Next time, you'll still be in the hat when I goes out the door."
At which point my daughter smiled at the boy and said, "Told ya!"

Just wanted to relay that story, John. Great post which jogged a memory!
I planned ahead! You see, I have two daughters, almost 8 and 9-1/2. I decided a long time ago that I was NEVER potty-training them so this way, if they are out on a date, they will have to come home early to go to the bathroom. Simple.
And I'm laughing at yours, Walter. Glad I'm not the only overprotective Dad out there. I guess it's just hard to acept that they're growing up. Miss the good old days, even the terrible twos, although I will NEVER again try to put a crib together.
Dinner at Burger King? Hmmm... does he have an older brother?
I still think the best way to protect your daughter from date rape is to actively talk to her about the sexual choices she can make, and why. To talk about boys as only wanting one thing, and girls needing protection from that, is reductive and harmful. In my and my sister's case, it led to the very sort of situations most fathers think they are preventing.
Can't say I disagree, Sandra. But I think the sort of protection I felt toward them was pretty instinctual. Probably goes back to Neanderthal days. I don't mean to be sexist, but most girls are still weaker physically than boys, which gives them a disadvantage. Maybe there's a book in this.
Outside Myself: Funny! But think of all those years diapering them. Feh!
Or your daughters can do what I did...just bide their time and move 200 miles away for college and decide not to tell Mom and Dad anything.

I could point out the obvious...kids can have sex any old hour of the day or night...a curfew might be a good idea but it won't do a damn thing about that...
Having been a teenage girl once, I can say that teenage girls have sex on their minds only about five minutes less per day than teenage boys do.
I hear abstention works. Sarah Palin says so, and she ought to know.
I agree with Leeandra--girls are thinking about it all the time as well. At least you didn't run a credit check (Oh no, the last thing you need is another paranoid hobby.) I loved this piece--it's funny, tender and very true.
And remember, the answer to "If you love me, you'll do X" is "If *you* love *me*, you won't ask me to do X before I'm ready." :)
Oh, the inner world of Papa Blumenthal. I think my father has labored long and hard with this one, landing finally on the open-minded side (but I am still sure I saw tears in his eyes when he realized I was really serious about someone for the first time).
My kind of guy, Caroline. Give him my regards.
Best thing you can do is show them that you trust them and let them make mistakes to an extent. My father's only rule when I started dating (and up until I left for college) was that he wanted to meet any boy who was going to take me out. He didn't care what they looked like or how they acted beyond being friendly. I made my mistakes, dated a few who ended up hurting me in the end. But Dad trusted me, and because of that I never went behind his back- I knew he would let me make my own dating choices, and I never hid them from him. He always knew where I was and who I was with, and I don't ever remember once being dishonest about that. So I was always safe in the end, and even though I got my heart broken a few times, at least I didn't have to upset my father too along the way. Good luck, girls are tough :)
Thanks Jesslm. I'm beginning to think -- judging from most of the female reactions -- that I may have been a trifle over protective. But they were teenagers at the time, so you can understand my fears. Or not. And it was a first date.
So...I guess it would be a bad idea to ask you for your daughter's cell phone number?

BTW, just in case anyone is clueless, I am just kidding. I am so not in the mood for Chris Hansen asking me if I want a seat.
Sorry Tony, they each have boyfriends. If you want to beat them up for me (the boyfriends), that's cool.
Oh that is sentimental stuff, kids aren't easy on our psyche are they? It isn't easy to leave off the child, even as they turn many corners. I give you so much credit for being over protective, and letting them know how much you care.
I can just SEE you pacing. The only advice I can give (my daughter is 36) is that it actually does get easier with time. And since I'm sure your daughters are as smart and cool as you are, they'll be just fine. Mine made much better choices in this field than her mother had... ;-)
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Smart and cool? You wanna go out on a date, femme forte? I promise, I'll have you home by 9:00.
funny!!
it probably doesnt help that you were a writer for playboy for years.
yep, great imagination.. sometimes an asset, sometimes a liability :(
dude, very cool-- you should put in amazon links to your books & imdb links to your movies.
Yup, it gets me in a fair amount of trouble from time to time.
I agree with Sandra. Girls think about sex all the time too during adolesence. On the other hand, yes, girls are much more likely to be date-raped than boys. How to be protective and sex-positive. It's a dilemma. I'm just glad to read the words of a caring parent. I went on my first date at 14. I don't think my parents even cared what went on as long as I got home at a reasonable hour. They never asked me anything about it.
Okay, so what went on? Don't leave us in the lurch.
thanks for the offer, john, but I only go out with guys who promise to get me in lots of trouble by 9:00. ;-D
I take it Vince did not return.
Loved it John. I had 3 girls ( in two years) they are now early 20's. It DOES get easier and I think it's so sweet that the Dad's have such a hard time with this. I took your post in the "fun" way I think it was intended. "Drive Safe". rated
As a teen, my elder sister once told me that boys and girls both think about sex, but the difference is that teenaged girls often give sex to get "love" and teenaged boys often give "love" to get sex. It's food for thought. One of my sisters was date raped. Pill in the drink makes for instant compliance. It still haunts her some days. Giving good advice is still good parenting.

I enjoyed your humor because the fondness for your daughter was evident in it.
Steve: Vince now collects baseball bats.
Trilogy: 3 girls in 2 years!!! Oy.
Boomer: Good points on the sex/love business. Your sister is very wise.
Just a few years left and you can exhale! Enjoy.
John, as a young teen I was the picture of manners and charm with parents. But OH, if these fathers new the devious plans I had for their daughters in my head... I told my wife if we had a daughter when she first got pregnant I was going to fortify the house with bars.

You nailed it when you said we KNOW what's going on in the mind of the most well behaved, clean cut looking boys. Sex is pervasive in our minds from around single digits until we either die or no longer remember it.

I feel for you, I truly do. My best friend is a really big guy like me. His now 23 year old daughter is my goddaughter. I was at their home one day when one of our former basketball players (he and I coached for many years locally) showed up to take Jess out on a date. We laughingly decided to play it hard and to the bone.

Both showed up at the door to greet the 16 year old young man with chests puffed out and game face on. I heard the urine trickling down the boys leg. He sat quietly, upright and hands clasped with us in the living room waiting for Jess to descend the stairs. We didn't even have to say much at all to him.

I feel quite certain that was the safest date she ever went on. Talk softly and carry a big stick.

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I only had a son John, but as mother who had been through raped and many unsavory sexual situations as a young woman, I can't blame you at all for feeling this way. Keep protecting, that is what daddy is great at!
Gee, Sheila, you've had more than your share of bad stuff.
My daughter's are 10 and 15 years old. Although I am undeniably biased I can say with total confidence that both are gorgeous. This means they are both targets for young, hormonally charged boys with no apparent talents or skills, but a pant-load of barely restrained desire.

I have often told my girls that I love them very much. But as the day arrived when the older one began to date I explained calmly and carefully that I am not afraid of their dates, and I am not afraid of going to jail for beating their dates down if they step over the Dad-drawn line in the sand. My girls think my paternalistic boasting is cute and funny. It is not, I assure you. A devoted dad is like an angry mama bear under the right circumstances. It is not wise to find yourself in a room with the door closed if either is present.
John, I feel the love for your daughters here, and I agree with Sandra - these things work both ways in this age. My grandkids are teenagers, and I tell the boy AND the girl to take care of themselves. What girls might do to boys surely wouldn't be reported as 'date rape,' now, would it? My g-kids are still so young (15) they can't imagine anything going wrong on them.

And, they'd be right, wouldn't they? Sex feels so good, so right, how can we ever imagine abstinence would work? Rated.