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john blumenthal
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January 05
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Your Excellency
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First class kvetch. Formidable braggart. Professional comedy writer. Published 8 books, written 2 movies. Former associate editor and columnist at Playboy Magazine for 8 truly debauched years, following a short stint at Esquire. Movies include "Short Time," (major flop), and "Blue Streak" (huge hit, no idea why.) Last two novels, "What's Wrong With Dorfman?" and "Millard Fillmore, Mon Amour," (only available online now) were both huge bestsellers among the members of my immediate family.

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OCTOBER 27, 2009 10:13AM

Why Disney Studios was a Screenwriter’s Nightmare

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During my days as a hack screenwriter, this was my favorite story: According to Hollywood lore, when Disney Studios was constructing a new administration building, the Disney execs interfered with the architect’s plans so mercilessly that the poor man decided to quietly take revenge.

  

The approved design called for concrete replicas of the Seven Dwarfs to grace the top of the building. The architect built them, but secretly positioned the dwarfs in such a way that, whenever it rained, the flow of water would make it appear as if the dwarfs were pissing on the executives as they entered and left the building.

  

This tale may be apocryphal, but having been tortured by the Mickey Mouse Studio more than a few times, I fully understand the architect’s motivation.

  

In those days, Disney’s movie development department –- and I’m not talking about their animation division --- worked differently than most of the others in town. And not in a good way, unless you were a glutton for Hollywood Abuse (which may be redundant.)

  

Here’s how the other studios handled things:  If you were a screenwriter or writing team with a track record, and you had a movie idea, your agent would call the head of development at a studio, and arrange a pitch meeting.

  

That’s the way it worked for my writing partner and I when we were riding a short ripple of minor Hollywood success. We’d bounce from studio to studio, until our pitch either sold or plotzed.  If it sold, we’d get a nice hunk of change to write the standard first draft, second draft and polish.

  

If the execs liked it, they might talk about making it. There is no place on earth where talk is more meaningless than in Hollywood. Or, if the stars were aligned right, if Jupiter was about to enter Pluto’s third moon, and Uranus was where it was supposed to be, they’d actually make a crappy film out of it.

  

If they didn’t care for it, they’d get another team of writers to destroy it. Or they’d sell it to another studio, which would then hire other writers to destroy it.

  

Michael and I were both pathetic at pitching. A lot of comedy writers would pitch half-assed ideas, but they would be so entertaining that the execs would be blinded by their own tears of laughter and give them a deal, only to regret it when the incoherent first draft crashed on their desks.

  

But we were the pitching equivalent of morticians. We’d speak in monotones, stare at the floor as if the pattern consisted of naked breasts, forget our lines and basically bore everyone to death. If there had been cell phones in those days, the execs would have been tweeting.

  

To compensate for our pitching ineptitude, we were compelled to come up with really irresistible stories. It wasn’t easy, but we were good at that part. In four years, we sold about 10 pitches and had 2 movies made.

  

But the usual protocol didn’t always work that way at Disney. At Disney, the development execs would often come up with their own ideas for movies.

  

Mostly, their ideas were just plain stupid. They were not ideas with actual plots. They were simply premises, usually bad ones. An example of such an idea was one in which a skinny model has twins and gains weight. That was it.

  

Here’s what Disney would do: After they came up with one of their bone-headed concepts, they’d notify agents and put out the word that they were looking for screenwriters to come up with three-act plots for their ideas. For free.

  

Michael and I eagerly answered the call, along with 6000 other writers. We took a meeting at Disney, during which their development veep explained their “idea.” He thought it was hilarious and laughed heartily as we sat there like two Puritan ministers with hemorrhoids.

  

But we were whores at the time, so we said we’d give it our best shot. They gave us three weeks to come up with a pitch.

  

We worked for days until we concocted something that we thought worked. One of us called Disney to tell them we were ready to pitch.

  

“Sorry, we already assigned it to another writing team,” they told us.

  

Okay, no big deal, it happens. Like idiots, we answered the next call as well, heard their cockamamie idea, came up with a story and called them.

  

“Sorry,” they told us. “We decided not to move ahead with this concept.”

  

By this time, we’d had it, but Disney called our agent again and this time they used flattery, which is usually pretty effective in Hollywood if you’re an idiot.

  

This time, they claimed that they had a notion that was absolutely perfect for us. So, being the nitwits we were, we went in, we heard their moronic notion, we pow-wowed for three weeks and tried to turn this sow’s ear into something that wasn’t a sow’s ear. Then we called them.

  

“Sorry, we decided you’re really not right for the project,” they said.

  

By this time, Michael and I had wasted about 10 weeks working pointlessly on their ideas, and the Disney execs never had the decency to let us know that the status of each project had changed. They left us hanging. They never apologized.

  

So we gave our agent firm orders to tell Disney we would never, ever work with them again, unless they paid us a shitload of shekels up front and babysat out kids for a year. In fact, we asked him specifically to use the phrase, “go fuck yourselves,” if Disney ever called us in for another moron-meeting again.

  

And that was the end of that.

 

But, to this day, the image of the Seven Dwarfs relieving themselves on the Disney executive’s heads almost softens my disdain for that studio. Almost.         

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What a bunch of garbage heads. I've often heard Disney was a rip off place to work, but you've really nailed it. I do like the Seven Dwarves pissing though. And really John, 'two Puritan ministers with hemorroids'. Funny man.
I've heard horror stories about working for The Mouse. It would seem they're all true -- and maybe worse. (Of course, they did give Ron Ziegler his first job....)

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It seems the executives never learned that they weren't Walt and couldn't do things his way.
I don't suppose Pirates of the Caribbean made them want to change their ways, either, huh? I'm waiting for Space Mountain, the movie.
Great stuff, John, that sounds just like Disney and it explains a lot about their movies. (And the dwarf anecdote is a gem!)

Rated.
Now that they've made movies out of all their rides, I think it's only a matter of time before "The Line Waiting For A Ride on Space Mountain: The Movie".
Great story John! It must have been a great time in your life, just to be "taking" meetings with the heads of studios.
R~
That sounds like Disney. Build up an unrealistic dream that will inevitably be shot down. The proverbial tease.

I love the stone dwarf story though - I seriously hope it's true!
We picked a great profession, John. We get no respect. Agents, publishers, and studio weasels happily waste our time. Yet we get the ultimate revenge. We get to make fun of our arch nemesis any time we want - and in public, too.

As long as we change the names to protect the truly untalented, we're in good share.

Rave on! I love it.
GREAT INSIDER DISH. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN EP.
THANKS!
What can you say? Piss on Disney. Literally. You need to take that archittect out for a drink and thank him for doing it for you.

Let's hear it for self-publishing.

Rated.
this is hilarious john...loved it.

your description of your pitching skills had me laughing out loud. and the two ministers with hemorrhoids, was just perfect.
John, this just proves the point I have tried to make for years; No matter what kind of business you are talking about, Executives are the same the world over. This bunch from Disney would have fit right into Bentonville and the Walmart Home Offices. Wish I could get some stone dwarfs to piss on those guys.
That sooooo much explains why so many of their movies suck. When my kids were little, if I'd have had to sit through one more "Bad News Bears" rip-off I would've dug Walt up and thawed him out just for revenge.
Perhaps you forgot to wish upon a star. Disney's been known to flog writers for less.
I'd make a frowny emoticon to signal my displeasure with Disney, but I know how you feel about those...
the perfect revenge would have been to take your 'not a sow's ear' and sell it to someone else, making 'shitload of shekels'
At least you got to tell Disney to FOAD.
Man, it's hard enough writing on spec and sending out queries. Hollywood's so fickle and I'm somewhat strangely comforted by this - knowing it's not a new thing. Good for you for standing your ground. I'm struggling with that as we "speak".
And so more of the myth of the magical mouse gets illuminated. Perhaps the whole concept of "imagineering" that became the rage in certain business sectors in the 80's was just that--a myth.
It had to be frustrating to go through all that. Sounds like you've got more perseverence than a Fuller Brush salesguy.
Devils! I'm still afraid of Zeus throwing lightning bolts at the cute little unicorns.
If only the architect had made it possible for Grumpy to take a dumpy ever time those execs walked in and out of there, it would have been perfect.
This kind puts the wholesome Disney image in proper context. It is said that old Walt was a major dick. ~R~
O'Really?: Apparently, Sneezy is spreading swine flu. Half of the Disney execs have it.
Another hilarious post. You, Mr. Blumenthal, are definitely a keeper.....
pssssst, ummm, John?

"There is no place on earth where talk is more meaningless than in Hollywood."

(whispering) dc
Sounds like typical execs--and we wonder why half the movies out there are so terrible. Hilarious image of those dwarfs (or dwarves?) . My post today happens to be about Disney also--and it's not too complimentary either!
I had a similar experience with the Florida Mouse Mafia when I worked in the local scene shops in Orlando. All the locals had a saying when dealing with Disney -- "They can tell you what they don't want, but they have no idea what they want." True indeed

As for the movie "business", Disney is the worst of the worst when it comes to formulaic crap. How come? Can you say Michael Eisner?

He was the ditz who hired Michael Ovitz, then got cold feet when he realized Ovitz was a helluva lot smarter than he was, and then paid him 85 million for 8 months of doing absolutely nothing. He's also the ditz who got sued for 250 million by heir apparent Jeffrey Katzenberg, who went on to greater success with Speilberg and Geffen.

The last real Disney movie was Never Cry Wolf, made when Walt's son-in-law Ron Miller was running the show. Then the bean-counters took over and turned Disney into a cookie-cutter factory under Eisner and the Schlock Squad. Walt's gotta be rolling over in his grave.
In still waiting for the movie: It's a Small World After All III.
I'm told that Shrek was made by a bunch of disgruntled former Disney employees who left for Dreamworks. Of course, in the first Shrek movie there are a lot of hilarious jabs at The Mouse (watch the little dancing puppets mooning the audience, looking like they came from a twisted Small World). Most delicious is "Lord Farquaad" (aka "Lord F*ckwad") who apparently looks and sounds exactly like Michael Eisner. Tiny little dude who sends everyone else out to do his dirty work for him (aka Shrek), and gets eaten by a dragon in the end. Love it.
At least when you spin your wheels, John, you make it funny. I loved "the pitching equivalent of morticians" (sounds like the Mets' staff . . .) among many other hilarious turns of phrase. Disney's loss is our gain.
John, I had you pegged (rightly) as a Mover and Shaker. You have made Disneyland sound like Looney Tunes.

uh-r, uh-re, uh-ra, uh-Rated
An Architect with a cool sense of humour - good job God, i LIKE it!

puritan ministers with hemorrhoids eh? jeeesh, that is one tough industry.
(I consider myself warned since I do have some material in the development dept. at one of Vancouver's premier production companies while the treatment is being hammered out. But since I'm just the agent, am I exempt?)
I always suspected that story about the dwarfs was true. Every time I have to deal with them, I come away missing a least a pint of blood. The House Of Mouse is an evil empire. And Walt really didn't like kids that much -- he kept an apartment at Disneyland so he could do the dog and pony show with the kiddies and then he and Pluto would go up to the apartment and drink bourbon until they passed out.
Makes you wish for rainy season, don't it?
Great story, john blumenthal. I have walked by those big stone dwarves many times and never suspected. And having done more than my fair share of working for free in the industry, I feel your pain. Hollywood seems to be one of the few places in the world where, in order to get a job or to move up to the next level, you must first be willing to do that job for free - and be grateful for the chance.
Wow. What a pain in the ass. I've heard that artists hate working in the animation dept of Disney for similiar reasons. They don't respect artists/writers.

What were the two films that were completed?
Sounds familiar, but it's not just Disney. I remember taking a series of meetings, after some producer 'loved' my pitch. I brought in a ten-page treatment (for free), and he loved some of it and hated some of it and we argued and drank spring water and ate lunch at the Formosa Cafe and argued some more and and finally agreed on every point and I went home and spent a week with our pages and pages of notes crafting a fifty page, beat-by-beat treatment tailored exactly to his tastes, size, and measurements, cuffs and inseams, quirks and questions, like a Savile Row suit. I turn it in, and hear nothing for a week. Then it's two weeks. I call. He's in a meeting, at lunch, out of town, at dailies, whatever. Finally I use the old Hollywood trick of calling at the end of the day and catching him after his secretary's gone home. He picks up. I remind him of who I am and all the work we did. He says. "Great stuff. Good luck with it."
That's why I live on Nantucket now ...
What you needed was a team of comedians to front your ideas in the pitch meetings.
Thanks for your insider's view of Hollywood--it explains a lot. I saw a funny spoof ad few years ago along the lines of "Third World Countries Need Your Unsold Screenplays to Insulate Substandard Housing."
Pitch man for hire here JB. You write it, I'll sell it. It's what I do. :-)
Disney, the evil empire...
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John, interesting story and I'm sure a very familiar story in Hollywood...creative writers yearning to work and be able to take advantage of their creative gifts, talents and hard-earned skills being spun around like that. No integrity there. Fascinating post. Now tell me, what do you think of Larry David?
Walt's head is in cold storage. I vote we take it out and use it for those myth buster airplane winshield experiments.

Rated.
Great Editor's Pick! Writers and great stories should be the backbone of Hollywood. I am glad to hear that someone is pissing on the studio execs who make piles of money for bull*&!@
It's those damn mouse ears. Apparently they are made out of tin.

Does Disney own Sarah Palin's home planet yet?
I've made more money off of my ideas and pitches than I ever did actually having something made...and even I knew better than to believe their BS...but great story, love your descriptions of the pitches.
Andy: That's an urban myth, according to snopes.com
Motoring Homes: You might be right about that
Tom: Biggest mistake Ovitz ever made.
Gewndolyn: Take a look at my profile
Steven: Do you really live on Nantucket? I spent most of my youth there. Parents had a house on FarmerSt., just off Fair.

Had no idea we had so many Hollywood veterans here!
hmmm note to self ..get money up front, dwarfs deliver golden showers, tell potential client to go fuck self.. wait a minute! This sounds suspiciously like a prostitution scheme..oh wait it's Hollywood.. writers?.. legal prostitution in it's most humiliating form. rated on spec... do you evaluate story treatments? lol
I just think of all those underpaid and overworked animals, and dwarves and the poor princesses....Damn Disney!
Great story for things I would never know!!
Walt was apparently a seriously fucked up dude and the execs just want to keep his memory and influence alive. E - vil.
Today I talked to a friend, unemployed for five years, about to spend $150 on a writer's conference. For "picture books" for kids. For which she was going to write. Not draw, write.

I pointed out how stupid anyone was to attempt to write for money, since in a short time, writers will no longer be paid anything. She called me a bitter cynic.

Thanks for printing this story that shows exactly why I'm right. The practice of nonpayment of writers started in Hollywood, and like any popular idea it's spread to newspapers, magazines, books and finally the online world. Writing is no longer a job. It's a hobby.
It still beats doing Customer Service for a living.
I've heard Disney is actually very good to its actual employees. Of which I am not one. I interviewed for a job in their costume department once, but didn't realize they are the only costumers in the world who wear suits to work. I arrived by motorcycle, and although I was still dressed tastefully and professionally, I was turned down for the job. I found out later it was because the woman interviewing me assumed I had loads of racy tattoos.

They can keep their filthy, Nazi-sympathizing money.
Mickey Mouse was a Crackhead. Every toon in town knew it.
Never work, talk, write, walk--or plotz--for free. Good first draft.
I feel your pain. Sounds like a fascinating, if up and down, lifestyle, though. I am rather jealous. :)
rated for dwarves pissing on executives.
A girl I took music lessons in school with is now a professional Disney princess in Orlando.

This comforts me when I start hating my life too much.
The thought of Dopey peeing on Michael Eisner will keep me laughing for ever...
John, how come no one ever talks about the importance of
"Flubber" anymore?
Oh, good - another couple of reasons to remind me why I should stay away from Disney, and possibly Hollywood in general. BTW, Carl Hiaason wrote a very funny book which could be read as slamming the Mouse empire in Florida - Native Tongue. Read it, and you'll never be able to visit a big-time amusement park again without sniggering...
John, that's an excellent look inside an industry that many of us will never know. I'm wondering if the same architect was tapped to design the George W. Bush Presidential Library? Not too much rain in Texas so I imagine those visitors who actually go can worry about other things at the library, instead.
once again, hilarious.
Don't sugarcoat it, how did you REALLY feel?
I love the dwarf anecdote.

I did a voice part for a foreign animated film a couple of years back--lead role, but paltry pay. Now I hear Disney is talking about remaking it. Yeah, they'll get Robin Williams to reprise my role and pay him six figures. I can take my kids to see it! Fun.
those were the days...
Puritan mortician ministers with hemorrhoids needed a new agent.
wow, you did a fabulous job here. Disney is known to be completely and utterly a craptastic place to work. love lvoe lvoe and gratitude
Egad. I think I got chills a few times reading this. Though I would expect as much from The Mouse.

This makes me want to write a skit:

"But we were the pitching equivalent of morticians."

Too funny. I need to see that. I love bad pitches. They're so perfectly painful and existential.
I've heard of people, especially writers, calling Disney "Mousewitz." I've read/heard a lot of these Hollywood tales but still enjoy each and every one.
Welcome to Mauschwitz.

I assume matters are much improved in these days of Disney's direct-to-video crapola. It's obvious software is churning out the scripts unattended.
Ha! Mickey the Rat is what everyone calls him around here. Nobody farts in Orlando with 'The Rat' knowing about it.
Oh, P.S. JB, "Blue Streak" is a comedy classic, therefore not a hack.
As I said before, I have it on DVD and my son loves Martin Lawrence and Luke Wilson. That movie always makes us laugh.
I worked at Disney as a movie editor for five years, watching as those knuckleheads tormented, and then fired, one good director after another until only the compliant were left. So glad to hear that someone turned my epithet into a reality.
i am not surprised. i despise disney. but i love disneyworld. i tell people its like the bible says, "hate the corporation, love the theme park."
You may have told your agent to tell Disney to “go fuck themselves,” but of course, agents don't talk to studios like that, so that was just empty rhetoric between you and... well, you. Similarly, as your experience demonstrates, Disney doesn't actually need you... or, truth be told, want you.
My brother in law passed up a job offer from their animation dept(this was a few years ago), when I asked why, he said after one interview he was convinced they were a bunch of pricks and he couldn't bear the thought of working for people with overeflated egos. :)

I just discover the Disney is branching into Anime . . . PLEASE god no!

Rated!
Poetic revege is like poetic justic: slow but sweet. The "F " Word is so useful.
Fun read as usual.

Rated
Even mice should have common courtesy!

Loved the Puritan ministers line. Loved it!

That idea about making a movie about being in a Disney line...that could work...
Good ole Walt himself was an anti-Semite, good thing he was gone or you'd have done bupkus. Oh wait, that's what happened. Hmmm...
You are so funny! Naked breasts on the floor, all of it was good.
"There is no place on earth where talk is more meaningless than in Hollywood." This should be made into a banner and posted across every major entrance to L.A. to warn people.
Actually, this is the most accurate analysis I have read about Disney. Especially in the last two decades, it seems that some twisted ideology is factored into their work.

Very informative, I enjoyed the read.

Rated.
Ah, the inside scoop. Very interesting. No wonder Mickey Mouse ended up drunk and penniless.
I have nothing more to add. Just wanted to show up here in my winning logo..
The bad news is the rest of the industry seems to now be following the Disney model....
My son works in that building; I passed your story on to him. Luckily, it rarely rains in Los Angeles.
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You know what they say, John: sleep with rodents, get up covered in cheese. And of course, rodent droppings.
Thank you. That was funny as hell.
"But we were the pitching equivalent of morticians. We’d speak in monotones, stare at the floor as if the pattern consisted of naked breasts, forget our lines and basically bore everyone to death. If there had been cell phones in those days, the execs would have been tweeting."

I love this imagery.
Thanks for the inside laugh John! Brilliant as usual!!! :)
Hahahaha... one of the funniest stories I've read in a long time. This isn't the first horror story I've heard about Disney, but you have such a way with words... hehehehehehe... Fantastic.
You are a master. You had me until I read the tags.
Disney is Satan. This story is funny to me...
Totally unfamiliar with Disney politics, but I see that they are no different from many others, after reading your experiences, told so wonderfully. Made me glad to have gone self-publishing route. I hope my ex, to endear himself to his "feminist" lover, accompanies her grandchildren to Disney studios where he gets pissed on by Dopey.

Here's to little people for raining Divine Justice, little by little, on BAD people !
Oh. How. Fun. All that was missing was a statue of Snow White giving them all the finger. When I visit the studio one day, I promise to stand there and salute them for you. ;)

Hope
XOXOXO
P.S. Just to clarify, I would be there for the studio tour. :) There is no truckload of coins large enough that they could back up to my home to convince me to join that viper's nest.

Hope