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JANUARY 16, 2009 11:13PM

Christian Fish

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I am grateful for having abnormal parents.

 Otherwise, I'd have to accept the fact that I'm this screwed up and only have myself to blame.

 My parents are older.  Lots older. Seriously.  They dated for 16 years before they married and my father is almost 16 years older than my mother.  This is how I can be 37 with an 80 year mother and 95 year old  father.  

I also came from a rather religiously mixed family.  My mother is an Episcopalian while my father is Jewish.  The majority of her family is Catholic.  Not that "twice-a-year" Catholic but rather REALLY Catholic.  If I was to quote them, I'd have to use that Microsoft Gothic Old English  font but don't see that as an option in this blog and I'm not quoting them anyway so who really cares....

 The story behind this mix is that my Very Catholic grandmother went on a date with a man who had been courting my Extremely Catholic great grandmother.  They stayed out too late on a date only to come home and find that this Extremely Catholic female ancestor had locked my Very Catholic female ancestor out of the house.  So, Grandmother did the Not Quite as Catholic thing and eloped with the suiter, hereafter known as "Grandfather".  He was Danish and Lutheran and after this event she mostly became a Diet Catholic Episcopalian.  My great grandmother responded to this by sending my grandmother a pair of red satin pajamas as a wedding gift.  It must have worked as my mother was born not long thereafter.  Other relatives on that side of the family are either Catholic or Episcopalian as their personal levels of guilt will dictate. 

My mother grew up and eventually met (and even more eventually married)  the man she felt she could most likely settle for.  My mom's Danish and Episcopalian background thus meshing with my father's Jewishness.  Or as I like to say, God's Chosen People married God's Frozen People. 

Seriously, I live for this.

Religious and age differences were cast aside, at least until the kids came along.  The apples of my parents' eye - aka my brother and I came along 2 and 5 years after that marriage, respectively.

If you're coming from your own religiously mixed family and feel that this loving background helped you learn and grow and blossom as a person, well congratulations.  I hope the ghost of Norman Rockwell paints your family portrait and your kids are able to attend that nice school in Lake Wobegon.  

My family wasn't and still isn't quite that well adjusted. 

Truth be told, there was  never really a moment that didn't get used as a religious battle - each side ridiculing the fallacies of the other, warring over the souls of the helpless pawns.... I mean, children.   There was some good intent.  They wanted to introduce us, or at least confuse us, regarding both religions:  When we were little, my brother and I attended a private Jewish school in Houston, synagogue on Fridays and church on Sundays.  We celebrated both Hanukkah and Christmas - which is pay dirt when you're a kid as all you care about are presents and lots of them.  The  reality is that I attended that Jewish school believing in Santa Claus, thought that it was Moses hanging up on that cross and honestly (and loudly) wondered why the Body of Christ couldn't come in cinnamon-raisin.  I still think that's a good idea.  The Hanukkah celebration soon got shortened from 8 days to 5, then 4, then 3 - which admittedly was more than enough time to get a dreidel - and then eventually was entirely left out of our December holidays. 

Christmas won that battle. 

Gefilte fish won another.

Which finally brings me to the title of this post and a totally funny story:

When I was very little, I asked my father why Christians use that fish symbol.  If you don't know which fish symbol I mean, think of the fish that Christians often use on their cars - the same ones that sometimes grow legs and hold tools if the name "Darwin"  is in the middle of it - thus ensuring some that the car is being driven by a Godless heathen.  But I digress.  I didn't ask my mom this question but rather my all-knowing Jewish father.  I say he was all-knowing as once, when I first heard that hamburgers came from cows, he assured me that hamburgers did in fact came from ham - "HAM-burgers".  As I didn't know where ham came from, I continued to merrily eat burgers, thus keeping McDonald's in business.  But I digress again.  My father, having thus proven his all-knowingness, I decided to ask him the question about the aforementioned Christian fish.  He carefully and deliberately gave me his wise answer:

Once upon a time, a man named John the Baptist was baptising people in the Jordan River.  While he was baptising these people, fish in the river would swim around, thus being baptized as well, hence becoming Christian fish.

And the ones which swam away became gefilte fish.

This is why we, as Jews, eat gefilte fish.

Yeah..... I have issues.  

In any case, I have told this story to many people.  Most find it funny.  One doesn't get it. I'm hoping someone here will reply, explaining why it's a funny story so I can forward it onto him, thus vindicating myself and proving I'm an inter-galactic Pez-dispenser of wit and wisdom while he's the equivalent of Shrek's navel lint.

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Oy, Mary, Mother of God! Great post, and great story. Can't explain it to your friend, though. Maybe if he prays on it a little, it'll come to him.
hee hee I love this post. I too come from a family with many religions and backgrounds. They agree on one thing only. I should be more religious. I should pick one. I upset them all by saying I thought I'd like to be Quaker (they're pretty cool). None of them are Quaker.

It's a delicate balance. I have to upset all the Baptists, Church of Christ, Jewish, atheists, Wiccans, Catholics, and Jehovah's Witnesses equally.

Speaking of Jehovah's Witnesses, one of my grandfathers was one, and did you know that, at a funeral, the good Jehovah's Witness waits until the very end, until the last. shovel.of.dirt. goes onto the ground above the casket before leaving.

My mother got upset when I mused about whether or not it was to make sure that they didn't escape.
great post I too come from bizarre combo religious background. Your friend should watch Lewis Black's D.C. stand-up special. I find him very funny but insightful on Jewish beliefs.
Kudos from another denizen of a religious mutt house :-).

WOOF
One loaf of cinnamon raisin bread and one Christian Fish to you! This post was great. =o) Love your father's explanation about how fish become gefilte, although it does nothing to explain lutefisk. Thumbified.
Have you asked him about hamentashen yet? ;-)

Now, I hate reality shows... but my sister told me about a contest in one of them, I think it was called Big Brother, and it just cracked her up. It cracked me up, too, just from her describing it:

The contestants in the Reality Show had to eat gross foods from another culture. One of the guys had to eat haggis. And then, a Chinese woman had to eat.... gefilte fish! She was making all of these grossed out faces, grossed out noises, like eating gefilte fish was akin to torture!
This is my first blog so I'm grateful to all who have taken the time to reply. Thank you.

- odetteroulette -
It's good to be an equal opportunity offender. I used to tell people I was a Multi-Theist Agnostic because I didn't know which Gods or Goddesses I did or didn't believe in.

That one ticked off everyone.

- Nicole -
My friend and I are both HUGE Lewis Black fans and love his DC Special.

True story: My friend is down here visiting, due to head back to Colorado tomorrow (or later today if I keep ticking him off). After reading your comment, I asked him if he knew what a dreidel was. His exact response was, "it's some Jewish toy kids get for Christmas." He then said he knew this because he had heard Lewis Black comment on it. So thank you, Lewis Black, wherever you are, for enlightening the masses. I'm actually thinking I have an honest crush on Lewis Black. I'm also thinking I should get help for this.

- Cynarra -

This is so totally not appropriate for a Seder, but.... if you take a gefilte fish from the jar (preferably one which was with water instead of the gel), rinse it, roll it in corn meal with some Cajun seasoning and deep fry it, it's actually pretty good. You can do the same thing but use matzoh meal instead of corn meal and salt and pepper. Still, I'm not expecting Cajun-fried gefilte fish to be a huge hit anytime soon.
re: cajun deep-fried gefilte fish:

I guess you'd call that a Jewish fish cake, eh?
I guess we could call it a Jewish Fish Cake - equivalent to a crab cake - but we don't get crabs or at least would never admit it.
Gads. What great dinner Guest @ O. S.!
Just like out to enjoy company and steal?
Rob forks, spoons, napkins, sugar packets,
dessert bar cheese cake that's better de' sex.
Wine is Japanese plum sipped from a bottle.
Fu-Ki wine has a cheap twist-off cap for butts.
Smoke Kool cigarettes and drop in thee filters.
@ O. S. ?-
@ O.S. find a best crumbly Chinese fortune cookie.
Cooks prepare sushi and Rosh Hashanah, no ha ha.
At the Jordan River find the Maryland Chesapeake.
Md., Bay crabs make wonderful breakfast crab cakes,
soups, and can be used for ear muff on cold mornings.
Cooks will make Ya for breakfast a peanut butter treat?
Yup. Be careful tho, peanut butter pancakes are tainted?
I heard peanuts are contaminated. The Center For Disease?
That federal outfit won't inform anyone. 'Um rotten potato?
I can remember when Chesapeake Rockfish was 29- cents per-lb.
Now possums can be assured "moth ball soup" cures a tummy ache.
Ya tease? Gefilte fish bite? I bet the fish bite a little pinky porpoise?
You rate fine in my book. I'd love to get my tackle box and wine jugs.
We may go sit at creek and bang banjos? Yawn like a purring kitten?
A stretched-out cat? There's nothing wrong with that. Better than a Cafe'. Maybe Ya can bring # 2 lead pencils so we can write notes on

the stolen sugar packets?
Life flies bye, so why not?
Bring a chaperone kitten.
We'll watch a bird yawns.
Shrek's navel lint? Heck's.
That a belly button check?
We/me can gets baptized?
Nothing wrong with a bath.
O okay. No annoy one? huh.
I'll offer a jug of honey mead.
I'll rack some-off from 55-gal?
It's a big jug. No sip 55- gallons.
It's a cure and never causes ails.
You entertain. I'll crawl in a ball.
Nature's perfect. Never stray far.
I'll rate adorable. No smack at me.
My soft pajamas are blue and white.
Sometimes I'll wear (PJ's) in public.
They are so comfortable. Wine stains.
No serious teetotaler. Sip moderately.
Everything in moderation. Innocents.
Terrific! this phrase: Otherwise, I'd have to accept the fact that I'm this screwed up and only have myself to blame. Grabbed me at the start. Diet Lite Catholics? You are very funny in your writing. Much smartass remarks and I mean that as my highest praise.
Holy Baptist/Methodist/Catholic. These are the the religious strands of my DNA. But I am none of these. I couldn't stand the taste of those damned little Methodist wafers and grape juice signifying nothing to me. Nor could I tolerate the Baptist tendency toward screwing up like Jimmy Swagart and then wailing in public. My mother was Catholic near the end of her life, but I was far removed from California at the time so I have nothing Catholic on my soul. I am actually thinking of establishing my own religion but I don't have all of its precepts and tenets figured out yet. By the way, this is a wonderful post and I will probably read it again for missed nuances. cy
You're welcome to read it as much as you like and please let me know if there's something which stand out for you.

In Denver, I was attending a Unitarian Universalist Church which worked very well for me, in that they are non-dogmatic and have a pretty even mix of Humanists, Liberal Christians, Pagans, Buddhists and much more. I actually was the head of a CUUPS group there which brought in large, diverse mixes of people throughout the community. They would also ask me to do the Jewish celebrations as I was the closest thing they had to that, though they truly failed to get the subtle nuances of the religion. Oh well.

I still think the cinnamon-raisin bread idea for the Body of Christ is a good one.
Very funny. Welcome to the tribe!
Enjoyed and thumbed.
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