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JUNE 14, 2009 5:04PM

It's OURS! But yeah, ok, y'all can have a state. A TAME one!

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So Bibi's big speech came and went. He went on and on about how the land - all of it - is ours and that's that, despite the fact that it never was in all of history for a single uninterrupted century. Most, yes. Never "all".

 Anyway,  after alla that, after stating flatly that any and all absence of peace is solely the fault of the Arabs, that "we withdrew with an agreement" (from city centers, continuing to expand settlemens, thereby stealing land) "and once without and agreement" (and also without lifting a total blockade), and yet - shock! still got no peace. I'm tellin' ya, these Ay-rabs... just can't rajuna with them. 

Eventually, towards the end, after promising that he's gonna talk about what "we" have to acknowledge about the Palestinians, he got to his reluctant confession thing. This is a thing of beauty. "among the rooms of our house of Israel, some are inhabited by this population, these people..." Only at the real tail end did he manage to say "Palestinian people" and "Palestinian state" - and that only after qualifying, before and after, that this state can and will only exist if it's absolutely, totally demilitarized. He promised them a flag, an anthem and a government... but left an army out of the deal. 

The problem is not with the aspiration that a Palestinian state be, at least initially, demilitarized. In fact, to sell the Israeli public on a deal that puts the Palestinians in control of hills overlooking our only major international airport, we're gonna have to be pretty sure they ain't got much in the way of, um, temptation lying around. 

No, the problem is the artlessness, tone deafness, and total refusal to realize that the other side will not be dictated to in such an open manner. Then again, opening bargaining positions are traditionally insulting. If the buyer doesn't do the walk-away at least once, you started too low. 

Ah, and the demand that the Palestinians "recognize Israel as a Jewish state." I don't know how pathetic you have to be to let others' definitions of you come on the way of vital arrangements, but I guess the rabbit hole goes deeper than I care to explore... The only "practical" meaning such a "recognition" would have is to give Israel the theoretical "legal" opening to insist that Jewish rule continue even in the event that Jews cease constituting the majority of the population in the state of Israel. To which I say - if it comes to that, that won't help. Eventually, majority speaks. 

Anyway, Netanyahu TOTALLY side-stepped the issue of building in the settlements, which is the current dispute he has with Washington and probably what the O-man was expecting to hear about when Netanyahu promised him an interesting speech. But he said the words "Palestinian state" in a sentence that contained no negation. Which is progress. I can't see Netanyahu surviving with his coalition, nor really doing enough to satisfy anyone. The Palestinians are rejecting the speech, rightly calling it a unilateral renegotiating of every previous deal there was, which again is trying to treat the other side as a child, who basically has to take what's offered.  We've seen how well that works. 

 

That's it for now. There were a few other things, but I GOTTA get some @#$% work done. I'm beginning to work on a post about the most rocking city of Tel Aviv, whose centennial it is this year. If there's any aspect about the Gotham of the Mediterranian you'd like to know about, our operators are standing by to take your orders. 

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Settlements? I don't see any settlements around here. Do you? What settlements? rated
I think the demilitarization part is a big deal, because it demands that Israel be able to squash them at will, which the Arabs cannot take.
Israel can already squash them at will.
And we want to codify that it stays that way, is the point.
Oh, I'm not saying I support this idea (certainly not the way it's being presented). It's just that army or not, the Pals will be squashable by Israel for the foreseeable future, army or not.
This is true, but you don't need an army to shut down BG airport.
You also don't have to be standing on a hill next to it if you have Iran-supplied rockets. What's the distance from the airport to the nearest Pal-controlled area?
Not much, hence the hill point. The hills near Modi'in Illit (and Bil'in) provide prime shooting at BG.
Starting from "Jerusalem Undivided" and a refusal to even negotiate Restitution for Refugees isn't really starting.
It paid off in the short term as the right wing here remained surprisingly muted. Then again, words are just words.
the part that's the most amazing is that most mainstream american coverage framed it as "bibi accepts palestinian state!" and then in the body of the article, would talk about conditions. almost all of the articles left out what imo is the most serious condition of demilitarization. le sigh.

also a note of sadness for bil'in where i haven't been since 2005 and where there was recently a tragic death in the middle of a protest.
The issue of demilitarization is huge. Because for it to be a true Palestinian state, it must be sovereign. Plus, if you were the Pals, would you want to be completely toothless while your hostile neighbor has a nuke, while also being the fourth-largest arms supplier? And what about border control? I don't believe for one minute that Israel will give up all aspects of that. And if we're not talking sovereign state, then we're really talking no state at all.