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I also blog about end-of-life issues at http://risaden.blogspot.com/

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AUGUST 1, 2010 12:01PM

No more percocet, no more vicodin

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 This is a rant. It's not politically correct. It's just a rant. I want my percocet! I'd certainly settle for vicodin, which doesn't even require a written prescription, it can be called into the pharmacy. I moved to Seattle two years ago with about 30 percocet left from a prescription that my doctor in Pennsylvania wrote about 3 years ago. I use them sparingly, responsibly, to get by, to get to work, to manage the chronic back pain that occasionally flares into immobility. I used my last one a few weeks ago. 

So I sent an email to my primary care doc asking for vicodin, a somewhat less potent opioid, assuming she would find this a more acceptable request than asking for percocet. She was aware of the chronic pain issue and knew how I had been managing it for many years, but her reply was this:

We discussed this when I first met you a year and a half ago and it doesn't look as if we've ever done any evaluation for it. Would you please make an appointment for review of the back/hip problem? I want to be sure we are not missing anything. 

I suppose I could go into the office and she might then give me some vicodin. But the response really rankled me.  I have no need to see the doctor. In this health care environment, does it really make sense to re-work up every pain issue every time a person changes doctors? 

Keep in mind that I know this is a rant. It's just a rant. 

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As a nurse practitioner, living in a state where I have full prescriptive privileges, I prescribe these drugs appropriately whenever a patient needs me to. I don't think about my license or drug abuse or local or national politics. I think about the patient, the situation, the best plan. I do not prescribe opioids without using good judgment. I don't prescribe opioids in a manner that would lead to misuse. But I am not afraid to treat pain. 

My attitude, I suspect, comes from working in palliative care, among colleagues who take pain seriously, and believe it is our mission to relieve suffering. At the end of life, most people think this is a noble mission. But what about on a Monday morning for a middle aged woman who can't get even crawl to work because of chronic back pain?  Or when I get to work, in my current job in woman's health, shouldn't I treat the cramps that come after an abortion or an IUD insertion? 

The attitude of my current doctor, comes, I suspect, from working in an environment that is more and more anti-opioid. A concern about deaths from prescription medications that invariably occur when these drugs are not used appropriately or mixed with alcohol or street drugs. Yes, they can be dangerous when misused. 

Let's be clear. I do my best to deal with pain.  I stretch and do yoga, I walk. I take non-narcotic pain medication every day that probably does me more harm than an opioid because it affects my blood pressure. Oh, I could stand to lose weight, sure that might help. But I know this problem is not ever going to go away. I have far fewer episodes of severe pain than I used to, but when I can't get out of bed without moaning, I want relief. I want to keep working and taking yoga classes, two of many things I cannot do when the pain is severe. 

But my doctor, that I've now known for almost two years, doesn't want to prescribe an opioid. She is protecting her own backside. I am hurting. And I'm pissed off. As a nurse, there is nothing I respond to as seriously as relieving other's pain. I feel abandoned by my provider in my own pain. 

We have now entered another era of drug suppression because it is currently fashionably to withhold opioids. 

So should I buy some on the street? 

This is a rant. This is just a rant.  

 

 

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Rant on mt friend! I've had chronic pain for 15 years, and was even declared disabled because of pain, which is really hard to get. I go to the VA for all my medicines but pain meds. They have some rule that pain is in your head or something. I now have to go to a PA once a month, who does nothing but check my heart, to get my pain meds. I use a time-relief morphine, plus percocet to stop the break out pain. I am in no way abusing these drugs. I use them the same way I do my blood pressure medicine, which also doesn't cure you. Find another doctor!
Agreed. Although I can't take narcotics because of nausea, and I am lucky enough at this point not to need them, I have seen this anti- movement happening in healthcare and it's getting ridiculous. Why have the ability to manage pain and not use it. Or anxiety. In diagnostics it's frustrating and wastes everyone's time when a patient cannot receive a Valium or Xanax before a long MRI or painful test, then cannot complete said test due to strong anxiety or pain. Everyone should not suffer for the minority that abuse. Hope you get the relief you need and deserve.
If you are a nurse practitioner with full prescriptive privileges, why can't you prescribe pain medication for yourself?
So many Dr's are afraid of treating pain, because doing so the RIGHT way would mean having to actually take patients seriously and heaven forbid that ever happens!
This happened to my sister, who had had a back/neck surgery. Years of pt and pain meds, and so no one checked out her back pain when it flared and stopped responding to treatment. Until the extensive bleeding which led to the discovery of advanced cervical cancer. She was 29, has survived, but lost everything. Imaging is important, PEs are important. Her pain area hadn't changed at all, it was just really bad luck, but that's part of why docs need to check.
Patrick- an obviously good question. I could, or get a colleague to write a scrip for me. But it's just not done. Unacceptable medical etiquette. Shouldn't be your own doctor or your own lawyer, shouldn't treat your children's ear infections, deliver your sister's baby, prescribe antidepressants for your best friend, whatever. It's just not done.
Good rant, Risa. I think Lady Miko has a point and I think being a woman compounds the fact that patients are not taken very seriously.
R
The first thing my rheumatologist said to me at my very first appointment was, "I don't prescribe narcotics." Geez, I hadn't even asked, nor was I even thinking about it.
Very strange to be greeted with that...
Smoke pot. This anti-pain deal is ridiculous. Pain is life-threatening in many ways. I cannot believe the cavalier attitude of many doctors who think everyone takes pain meds for some abusive reason. Get another doctor. This one will only be more trouble.
Hi Risa
Sorry for your pain--know what that is like.

Have had vicodin all year with my breast reconstruction and am lately off it. Found that now my chronic side pain is asserting itself since it came to depend on that relief, now gone.

Do you have a pain center there? We have one which only deals with chronic pain. Most docs have no idea what chronic pain feels like; there is a great deal of moral judgment going on as well.

IF you change docs in the same clinic, they will talk about you in the break room or she will make a note in your chart that you have exhibited "drug seeking behavior". Hard to find a doc who is not self-serving. I have a doc now whom I just love--brings his heart to work not just his wallet.

My best to you, Risa.
http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2010-07-29/story/feds-jso-raid-two-jacksonville-pain-clinics
Righteous rant, Risa. I've seen the same thing happen to friends, until they find another doctor.
Have you tried a pain clinic? I'm a nurse too. My doc, who is not an internal or family practice guy, does not treat chronic pain. Just acute pain from procedures. We refer all of our patients with chronic pain to our excellent Pain Clinic. They are the experts. If you get a bad group, go to another one. Not all Pain Clinics are equal. But you probably know this.
Good luck!
It's a good & true rant, Risa -- I had so much trouble getting morphine for my mom, even if she found a willing doctor who would write & sign the triplicate prescription, we'd still have to deal with the pharmacists, who never carried enough, or they only wanted to give one month at a time. We finally went through the pain clinic for the meds & then found a pharmacist who also worked with the local hospice & he UNDERSTOOD! Yes! If you're in PAIN, the meds help with the pain, it's not like you get high, because the pain absorbs the meds! (Yeah, I know that's not a scientific explanation, but I'm not a scientist.) There's a big difference between a guy just popping a morphine, & a guy in severe pain popping a morphine. I don't understand why so many people who deal with health & medicine can't figure this out. It's crazy!
Risa,
You probably know my history with pain--I've written about it enough. I have now been almost a month opiate-free. My head still hurts, but I feel better. Which is not to say that what I did will work for everyone.
Pain, I'm convinced, is a disease as much a symptom.
And I agree with all of those who've told you to find another doctor. Or a pain clinic.
Good luck.
Sorry Risa for your pain and situation. I'm on the side of "find another Dr".
One would think that your doctors would trust - even rely on - your perceptions, what with you being a medical professional yourself. Saves them the hassle of office visits and various other time-wasting procedures.
Rant away and then rant some more. Chronic pain can steal your soul.
Rated.
A rant, yes, but one about a problem that millions encounter. Chronic pain is disabling. If she's so intent on protecting her backside, she should refill your prescription for a couple of weeks until you can see her and she can feel satisfied that you are not drug seeking. Sheesh. Anything less is mistreatment.