Rob St. Amant

Rob St. Amant
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My roots are in San Francisco and later Baltimore, where I went to high school and college. I stayed on the move, living for a while in Texas, several years in a small town in Germany, and then several more in Massachusetts, working on a Ph.D. in computer science. I'm now a professor at North Carolina State University, in Raleigh. My book, Computing for Ordinary Mortals, will appear this fall from Oxford University Press. http://goo.gl/hQBHy

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APRIL 23, 2010 6:30PM

A book contract

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Oxford skyline

My book contract has arrived. That's cool. Oh, wait, I meant to say...

Woohoo!

Ahem. The publisher is Oxford University Press, which I'm very happy about, because of their reputation, of course (they've been in the publishing business since the 1500s), and because they've published the kind of popular science book that I aspire to write (like The Selfish Gene--what? A guy can dream, can't he?)

Anyway, I'm celebrating. The awkward fist pump, the living room dance, and so forth. To draw attention away from the self-promoting qualities of this post, though, I'll add something about other people's books. You know, the kind that already exist.
 

How much should you charge for a book? You might consider obvious economic considerations: value for the dollar, how much comparable books cost, impulse buying, and so forth. Or you might throw all that out the window and think, "If I can find just the right buyer, I'll have it made." This, apparently, is the strategy chosen by the sellers on Amazon listed below.

(I wish I could afford that Perry Mason mystery. It looks like a good one. And I wonder what these books went for new?)

1.
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GAMA-GO Postcard Book (v. 1) by Tim Biskup (Cards - Apr. 2004)
1 used from $48,597,300.00

5.0 out of 5 stars   (1)
 

2.
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The case of the irate witness: A Perry Mason mystery, and other stories by Erle Stanley Gardner (Hardcover - 1973)
1 used from $55,364,978.99

Other Editions: Unknown Binding

3.
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1 used from $21,889,600.00


4.
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Encyclopedia of Instrumentation and Control by Douglas M. Considine (Hardcover - June 1981)
1 used from $48,596,700.00

5.0 out of 5 stars   (1)
 
Other Editions: Hardcover

5.
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Dreamstate: Mad Sparks 5 by Kelly Kulikoff (Paperback - Mar. 19, 2005)
2 new from $18,429,501.00


6.
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Odds on Miss Seeton by Heron Carvic (Hardcover - June 1981)
1 used from $16,159,800.00

3.0 out of 5 stars   (1)
 

7.
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1 used from $9,999,240.48


8.
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An inquiry into the scriptural character of the revival of 1859 by William Hamilton (Unknown Binding - 1993)
1 used from $9,996,200.78


9.
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No Sign of Life by Michael Delving (Hardcover - Sept. 18, 1978) - Import
2 used from $9,994,069.76


10.
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1 used from $9,991,978.53

 

A few notes of possible interest:

1.  GAMA-GO Postcard Book (v. 1) is no longer listed for $48,597,300.00, as it was when I pulled this list from Amazon a few days ago; its price has been adjusted downward to $5,647,626.24. Almost a 90% discount. Other books have disappeared entirely. I wonder if someone has made a killing?

2. Odds on Miss Seeton is a hardback copy. The paperback goes for $0.01, plus shipping.

3. I can see why college students complain about the price of textbooks, if MA 110 Intro to statistical Methods and Data Analysis is representative. 

4. No Sign of Life is available from two different sellers for the same price.


My wife took the picture at the top of this post in the spring(!) of 2007, when we spent a while traveling around England, starting in Oxford. (Here's the story of that trip.) It's a view from the roof of Carfax tower. I don't know the city well enough to say what this photo shows; I'd guess one of the colleges.

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Rob, congratulations on this great news! Funny prices on those books you list above!
You sold a book???!!! That's fantastic!!!!!!!!! And to such a prestigious press, indeed. WOW.

The hell with modesty - what the heck is the book about? Title yet?
I.am.so.proud.of.you!!
Inspirational.piece.for.writers.too~
Woo hoo indeed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oxford Press is first-rate. Well, I guess you'll have to tell us how they treat authors.
Congratulations! Let us know the title as soon as all the signatures are in.
Rob, congratulations...and you should be celebrating!
So excited for you! Congratulations.
Congratulations -- and I must have missed it --what's the subject matter?
Congratulations! (that's Balliol College in your photo)
Good job -- promoting a book but not telling us the title. (Or did I somehow miss that?)
In any case, congrats.
Rob, I'm celebrating with you! This is such fantastic news and such an impressive publishing company. I remember the day you completed your manuscript. This is just great.
Hoo-ray! (pun intended)
Congratulations. You can see why libraries are having a hard time making their budgets when books cost that much.
That's worthy of a big celebration. Congratulations. What's the book?
Wow! Hooray! Fist-pumps back at ya! Thanks for sharing your joy-joy with us, it put a big smile on my face. Congratulations Rob, I am very happy for you.
Yee hah! I think. Depending on the subject matter, of course. The trouble with those Amazon.com prices you quote, unless the author is doing the selling, (or at least gets comparable royalties from the seller) it won't go to the author's benefit. But you can always put yours on Amazon.com yourself. I suggest starting around the 50 million price range, and if necessary you can adjust down from there, as was apparently done by the seller of the GAMA--Postcard Book (Vol. 1). Good luck. And congratulations.
what!? Holy crap, go you!!
It is about what?
Wonderful! Enjoy your Happy Dance!
Cheers!

Eager to learn the details.
Best wishes Rob. Couldn't happen to a better person
Toasting to you and your continued success. Congrats!
Excellent! Excellent! Excellent!

Kudos - now, strap yourself in, it only gets rougher from here ;).

Congratulations :).

Rated for victorious!
SSSSSQQQQQQUUUUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Fist-pumping along with you, friend!!!

You so deserve this.
congratulations, this is great news, what can you tell us about the book?
I have no answers but am very glad for you!
This calls for champagne. Congratulations.
A hearty WOOHOO indeed!

I, too, am curious to know a little more about your subject matter, beyond "...the kind of popular science book that (you) aspire to write".
This is great news. Happy day.

I look forward to learning about the book!
Hey! Not only are you finally back in these parts, but you have terrific news to share. Congratulations - I'm so happy for you!
Congratulations! Wonderful news. Can't wait to see the fruits of your labor.
Congratulations. This is great news and thank you for sharing it. Rated.
Congratulations Rob. It must be Good News Friday.
Great news. Congratulations.
Congratulations, Rob. Well done.
Congratulations! Good luck. There's hope for the rest of us. R
So happy for you! Congratulations, Rob.
I know that I for one, would be willing to pay (insert insane amount of money here) for the translated version of your book that my little chicken brain could understand! Congratulations, Rob! Wienerschnitzel for everyone!
How fabulous! Congratulations!
If you write it then I will read it ;0)
Congratulations, Rob! Most impressive. Now can you possibly come back and write here more?
Congratulations, Rob. I'm really happy for you.
Holy...everything Rob!!!!
I am so happy for you...remember when we talked about this a while back? Fist pump... and another, and another......
Hi, all. Thanks for the good wishes! My wife and I got back a little while ago from a so-called gastro-pub downtown, called The Oxford. It just seemed appropriate. I splurged on a duck dinner and had a Smithwick's (which is apparently pronounced with a silent 'w').

To answer a few questions:

What's the book called? Unfortunately, no one really liked the title I proposed, so that's up in the air.

What's the book about? That's quite a bit easier to describe. You may know the kind of post I tend to write here on OS, the more serious ones, at least. I pick an idea that I think is interesting but perhaps not all that familiar, and I try to explain it in everyday language, drawing connections to everyday life. Sometimes someone might comment, "Oh, that gives me a new way to think about such-and-such." That's my reward for a successful post. It turns out that computer science is full of such interesting ideas, and yet hardly anyone knows about them. I'm writing a book about these ideas, aimed at--well, aimed at a readership much like OS. Not computer lovers or techies, just people who like to read.

Bookstores are full of books about computers, but very few of the kind I'm working on. (I boldy assert.) By analogy, imagine that you want to learn the basics of modern biology, but every book you pick up starts off, "Here's how to set up your Model XYZ microscope..." The vast majority of non-professional computer books are about how to use them. I'd like there to be a book you can settle down with and explore the ideas behind the hardware and software, without having to worry about the nuts and bolts. The same way that people can learn about biology with using a microscope, about space without worrying about rocket ships and telescopes, about the human body even if they don't care about diet programs and exercise regimes. I think the ideas are interesting enough to carry the book, even for people who don't own or use computers.

When's the best time to submit a book proposal? No one asked this, but I'll answer it anyway: If you're submitting a proposal to the American affiliate of a British publisher, and you expect a response near the end of their fiscal year when lots of reports are due and an entire layer of upper management has flown to the UK for meetings, a volcano erupting in Iceland can throw all your expectations into disarray. :-)

I'll respond to a few comments (but I've read them all, and again I'll say thanks):

Thanks, consonantsandvowels, for the college ID. Balliol. Cool.

On the Amazon list, John and HenryR, I'm surprised the sellers don't notice the prices. They must not check their databases very often for outliers.

Cindy, I think that most of the trade books Oxford puts out (though apparently not the academic titles) allow you to "Look Inside". That would be a good thing for me, too. I confess that I hope smart readers pick up the book, but that it's readable by everyone. (For example, high school students wondering whether computer science would be an interesting major.)

Finally, there's hope for everyone. That is, I've had some good opportunities lately, but there are many better writers than me on OS. If you want it, go for it.
Wow! You are awesome!
Congratulations from me too. I look forward to the publication of your book, which sounds rather interesting.
So exciting! Congrats, Rob!
Congrats! That's great news. Celebrate in style!
Cheers to you, Rob! (And Beautiful picture!)
Stop being so humble and tell us more about your bo0k sale. That's awesome!!!
WooHoo, indeed. I don't think Oxford unless they are so different from other publishers will give you the go-ahead on what it will cost. How exciting!
Rob, this is wonderful. I'm proud of you! To think I knew you when...
Hi, everyone. Thanks!

I'll try to keep people up to date on what's going on. Dave Cullen did something along these lines, I think, before Columbine was published, and it was fun to read. (We knew him when...)

There's a good deal of advice out there on the Web about creating a "platform" for marketing a book, which can include blogging. The "danger" of my using my OS blog as a book platform is that I'll become as boring as the OS spammers. (Pleaze buy my Air Jordans--I mean, my book! Cheep! Free shiping!) I bring this up because we're an analytical crowd and we're probably all aware of the tradeoffs. I'll be careful about this; I think other OSers have managed it well.
Rob: OUP? Far out. Just one of the most prestigious academic (and other) publishers in the known universe. Congratulations.
CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
How did you get your foot (or any other body part) in he door?
Thanks for letting us know what it's about. You do have a gift for that kind of explanatory writing and I think it's a rare gift. I'm so glad it's being recognized.
How did you get your foot (or any other body part) in the door?

Hi, Steve. The door is pretty much propped open, I think, for people in my position. Academics tend to publish a lot, so we're a known quantity, even before writing a book. We have steady or recurring contacts with publishers of various kinds, through reviewing and such. Relatively few of us write popular science books, for various reasons, though, so if we're in an interesting area, there's not all that much competition. And I had a good idea for a book...

Reuben! Don't be stalking me, dude... :-)
A coup - and very much deserved. Many congratulations to you my good man!
I shall add just one more hearty congratulations!!
Thanks! I'm excited about the whole thing.
Congratulations and Mazel Tov and WONDERFUL and way cool!

When I saw his on my iPhone the other day I told my wife and said: I feel like Michael Scott on The Office in the episode where Dwight gives a speech then at the end Michael tells the camera: I entertained the guy who entertained thousands (why? because you have said a nice thing or two about my posts) and she said without batting an eye "o, you are not quite that pathetic."

I want your book. Please PM me when it is available? This is like the time I physically ran into Julie Christie at the toy department at Macy's in Manhattan. I told her "excuse me" for my awkwardness and she smiled at me from like 15" away.
oh Rob, this is terrific news. I think I saw an early chapter a while ago, I'm so glad it's come to fruition. Here's to much success and may many professors across the country, indeed the world, use it as a tool too teach.

(delighted that Kerry stopped by to congratulate too)

cheers to you and your bride (I know what spousal support means).
Thanks, Greg! You're in the group of OS writers I expect to see great things of in book form. Expect and hope. I will let you know when the book is released, probably with brass instrument fanfare. :-) Though it probably won't be for a year.

Thanks, Barry! And congratulations on your successful book signing in Dallas! The pictures look great, and having sold out of all the copies present... I'd like to be in that position.

Also, you're one of the OSers who have already been through this publishing process. I wonder how many others there are? I know a few--I think this calls for a new post.
Great news, Rob
Here's wishing you fortune and fame.
Both for your sake...and I like to drop names.

We knew you when....
Thanks, Paul. As I tell people, I don't expect to become rich and famous. (With my inner egomaniac voice continuing, silently, "...but I wouldn't turn it down." :-)
Congratulations!!!!!
Thanks, ponti. And thanks, Token. You're exactly the kind of reader I'd hope would enjoy a book about computer concepts.
Wonderful news. Congratulations!!!

Thank you for including me in the OS library...

Just came from the picture of Oxford you have up. Loved the visit.

My idea of "Where Are They Now?" is crashing and burning. I found out where everyone has been. They're in a bitter place. One nice real response and a handful of disturbing upset responses.

Anyway, back to the book–good luck and feel feel to contact me if you have any business book questions. It would be a pleasure to help. Please don't respond here but me directly as I have to stay away from Open Salon for awhile–at least until I get less scary emails.